[END] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

#1401

motel room wrote:
Golden wrote:I'm completely willing to help flip this lynch to JJJ. I don't trust him in the least. Anyone else on board?
considering

Cool! What do you think of my most recent contributions, aokiji?

#1402

I really don't see any reason to lynch llama at the moment and don't trust the reads of the people voting him. If necessary I'll switch my vote to prevent it.

#1403

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Rbzmncaeaei wrote:Your behavior does not exempt you from standard Mafia responsibility. I want you to expand.
Okay!

90% of my posts in this game feature earnest scumhunting efforts much like those you saw in Robert De Niro Mafia. I have stated clear suspicions and given every reason for every vote. I have engaged my suspects in continuous thorough conversation, and adapted my reads as I've proceeded. I haven't quite played at full throttle I grant, but that's impossible under the circumstances.

The other 10% feature... whatever I'm doing right now.

This either affirms my suspicions because you can't think of a good response or if you are town it tells me that you are not really reading my accusations towards you and giving them any thought, which is tragically ironic considering that's what you keep asking me (and others) to do for you. I have acknowledged that you have stated suspicions and given reasons, and I have acknowledged that you have engaged "suspects" and adapted my reads. It is not your job right now to prove to me that you have done these things, it is your job to prove to me, and everyone else, that it is not an act. Because your train of thought regarding your reads is telling me, as it has been the entire game, that it is.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Rbzmncaeaei wrote:I'm talking about the game in general. Now you're avoiding doing that specifically because I've brought attention to it.
I veered way off Meta Highway well before you told me I was imitating myself.

But not well before you sensed that accusation.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Rbzmncaeaei wrote:How hypocritical is this? Is it not standard Mafia responsibility to give legitimate reasons for a vote that is very close to the time of the lynch? Is that not AT LEAST as high of a priority when it comes to things needing an explanation as something that, as I said before, is as subjective as it is plain-as-day, meaning if you don't see what's bothersome about it than no further explanation could possibly benefit you?
I want you to really think about this right now, Zebra. You know what I'm capable of in Mafia games. I know it too. This behavior right now is obviously not an adequate representation of that. Do you think I'm not completely aware of that? Am I oblivious of myself? Do I have myself on ignore? You might not know why I'm being loopy right now, but I think you can figure it out if you allow yourself the opportunity to consider it fairly.

Or you could, I don't know, tell us, and prevent another mislynch if you are in fact town. Don't make me regret giving you the benefit of the doubt yet again. Last chance before I join this potential new bandwagon.

linki@Russ Just a vibe, otherwise I would have elaborated earlier. Subject to change as all reads are.

#1404

bcornett24 wrote:Meh I've been so busy last two days, I havent had time to look this over, just remembered come back 12 pages of 50 posts to read, is not happening.

I think I believe you, Brian.

#1405

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Golden wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Golden wrote:I'm completely willing to help flip this lynch to JJJ. I don't trust him in the least. Anyone else on board?
Excellent. Why is that Golden? What am I up to?
I have no idea. That's what bothers me. I usually see rationality behind your actions. Possibly, it's something to do with your position as assistant CEO.

I don't know what is going on with you, and I find that incredibly scary.

@BR - what question?
That's not satisfactory. If you think I am bad, which you just implied by "I don't trust him in the least" and your willingness to lynch me right now, then you must have a specific mafia agenda in mind to explain my behavior. So what am I doing?

No, there is no such 'must'.

You just said you think a tie could be consistent with your win condition (more consistent than the other options I propose). I do not think that makes any sense from a civilian mindset. All I need to do is feel like you are not coming from a civilian mindset, and I don't.

@BR - in what sense? Not much in this game, but I think he is usually very switched on as a civ (regardless of how loud or quiet) and comes across as more vague and detached as a baddie.

#1406

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Brief appearance. Ask me things.
How was your day?
Splendid, thanks for asking! I spent most of it on planes, trains, automobiles, and a bed, but I'm in great spirits. How was your day?

Russtifinko wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Brief appearance. Ask me things.
What are you in Sweden for? And what part?
I'm in Stockholm for leisure. I visited Oslo, Norway a few months ago and loved it, so I wanted some more Scandinavia in my diet. I love the umlauts and I love the blondes.

You and me both, brother.

Linki: Yeah I figured that was probably it. Hopefully I can be more Supatown and convince you otherwise!

#1407

I guess no one is going to make me laugh today. *self vote*

#1408

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
bcornett24 wrote:Meh I've been so busy last two days, I havent had time to look this over, just remembered come back 12 pages of 50 posts to read, is not happening.
I think I believe you, Brian.

Tell me this is another time you should've put the font in orange. Are you really willing to give up that suspicion so easily?

#1409

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
motel room wrote:
Golden wrote:I'm completely willing to help flip this lynch to JJJ. I don't trust him in the least. Anyone else on board?
considering
Cool! What do you think of my most recent contributions, aokiji?

i think you're leaning into that wifom that people cant help but double-think.

Are you being this guy right now to benefit town or to screw with us\your meta?

#1410

Rbzmncaeaei wrote:This either affirms my suspicions because you can't think of a good response or if you are town it tells me that you are not really reading my accusations towards you and giving them any thought, which is tragically ironic considering that's what you keep asking me (and others) to do for you. I have acknowledged that you have stated suspicions and given reasons, and I have acknowledged that you have engaged "suspects" and adapted my reads. It is not your job right now to prove to me that you have done these things, it is your job to prove to me, and everyone else, that it is not an act. Because your train of thought regarding your reads is telling me, as it has been the entire game, that it is.

I can't PROVE that. I can only play my game and hope that it serves to the best interests of my team. If you interpret my honest contributions as being dishonest, even when I have tried so hard to explain myself repeatedly, then there's nothing I can do about that.

Rbzmncaeaei wrote:But not well before you sensed that accusation.

Excuse me, what?

I do not own a functioning crystal ball.

Rbzmncaeaei wrote:Or you could, I don't know, tell us, and prevent another mislynch if you are in fact town. Don't make me regret giving you the benefit of the doubt yet again. Last chance before I join this potential new bandwagon.

Why would I tell everyone what I'm doing when I'm clearly up to something unique? I'm not going to telegraph my maneuver to those who might be exposed by it.

#1411

This is what I've been trying to get at for these past few pages Golden, it is not genuinely logical for a civilian to demand specifics where they are unnecessary and choose to hide specifics when they are essential to not getting yourself lynched.

#1412

Golden wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Golden wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Golden wrote:I'm completely willing to help flip this lynch to JJJ. I don't trust him in the least. Anyone else on board?
Excellent. Why is that Golden? What am I up to?
I have no idea. That's what bothers me. I usually see rationality behind your actions. Possibly, it's something to do with your position as assistant CEO.

I don't know what is going on with you, and I find that incredibly scary.

@BR - what question?
That's not satisfactory. If you think I am bad, which you just implied by "I don't trust him in the least" and your willingness to lynch me right now, then you must have a specific mafia agenda in mind to explain my behavior. So what am I doing?
No, there is no such 'must'.

You just said you think a tie could be consistent with your win condition (more consistent than the other options I propose). I do not think that makes any sense from a civilian mindset. All I need to do is feel like you are not coming from a civilian mindset, and I don't.

@BR - in what sense? Not much in this game, but I think he is usually very switched on as a civ (regardless of how loud or quiet) and comes across as more vague and detached as a baddie.

None of your options suit the truth. I chose the one that was most applicable among a number of wrong options.

#1413

Elohcin wrote:I guess no one is going to make me laugh today. *self vote*

Don't self-vote! It's not allowed!

Will you switch to someone evil if I tell you a joke?

A pirate walks into a bar with a ship's steering wheel sticking out of his pants. He sidles up and says, "Arrr, gimme a cuppa yer best grog!" And the bartender says, "Sure. And it's on the house, but first you have to tell me why that steering wheel's in your pants."

The pirate lifts up his eyepatch and gives the bartender an exasperated look, and says, "Yarrrr, it's drivin' me nuts."

#1414

Elohcin wrote:I guess no one is going to make me laugh today. *self vote*

Elohcin, I just started and I have read the rules. Have you?

#1415

motel room wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
motel room wrote:
Golden wrote:I'm completely willing to help flip this lynch to JJJ. I don't trust him in the least. Anyone else on board?
considering
Cool! What do you think of my most recent contributions, aokiji?
i think you're leaning into that wifom that people cant help but double-think.

Are you being this guy right now to benefit town or to screw with us\your meta?

I hope it'll benefit town. The intentions are honest at least.

#1416

Elohcin wrote:I guess no one is going to make me laugh today. *self vote*

Nothing better than a self-vote on Day 2, really? You have no scum reads other than myself and...yourself?

#1417

getting back on Long Con for now. Not feeling the bcornett lynch, i believed his post just then I guess. Llama, yeah maybe.

#1418

Rbzmncaeaei wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
bcornett24 wrote:Meh I've been so busy last two days, I havent had time to look this over, just remembered come back 12 pages of 50 posts to read, is not happening.
I think I believe you, Brian.
Tell me this is another time you should've put the font in orange. Are you really willing to give up that suspicion so easily?

Wouldn't be the first time.

#1419

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
motel room wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
motel room wrote:
Golden wrote:I'm completely willing to help flip this lynch to JJJ. I don't trust him in the least. Anyone else on board?
considering
Cool! What do you think of my most recent contributions, aokiji?
i think you're leaning into that wifom that people cant help but double-think.

Are you being this guy right now to benefit town or to screw with us\your meta?
I hope it'll benefit town. The intentions are honest at least.

what are the intentions?

#1420

Elohcin will be punished along with any players who miss this vote.

Don't self-vote, folks. Don't miss the vote. Don't break any other rules for this matter. May this be a lesson.

#1421

Rbzmncaeaei wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
bcornett24 wrote:Meh I've been so busy last two days, I havent had time to look this over, just remembered come back 12 pages of 50 posts to read, is not happening.
I think I believe you, Brian.
Tell me this is another time you should've put the font in orange. Are you really willing to give up that suspicion so easily?

I have no idea what is going on since page 16, when it became night. So whatever your accusations are of me I can't really defend myself.

By no means are you required to believe I've been busy, but I firmly believe life trumps this. If I am not lynched tonight I'll be looking stuff over shortly.

#1422

Rbzmncaeaei wrote:This is what I've been trying to get at for these past few pages Golden, it is not genuinely logical for a civilian to demand specifics where they are unnecessary and choose to hide specifics when they are essential to not getting yourself lynched.

I'm not sure I follow this post, but you agree that JJJ's behaviour is bizarre?

I mean, why demand that I must have a specific anti-mafia strategy in mind for his antics to suspect him...

#1423

Russtifinko wrote:
Elohcin wrote:I guess no one is going to make me laugh today. *self vote*
Don't self-vote! It's not allowed!

Will you switch to someone evil if I tell you a joke?

A pirate walks into a bar with a ship's steering wheel sticking out of his pants. He sidles up and says, "Arrr, gimme a cuppa yer best grog!" And the bartender says, "Sure. And it's on the house, but first you have to tell me why that steering wheel's in your pants."

The pirate lifts up his eyepatch and gives the bartender an exasperated look, and says, "Yarrrr, it's drivin' me nuts."

Yay, thanks Russ!

#1424

I'm voting for long con to break the tie as there needs to be a lynch, my lynch will only be a waste of time.

#1425

I flipped my vote to llama. Long Con took the lead again, and I don't think Long Con is the right way to go.

But... if a tie in the end, I will flip back away.

#1426

motel room wrote:what are the intentions?

I'll reveal that soon.

#1427

I may switch to Long Con. I only suspect him very mildly, but I don't want to risk a very late tie.

#1428

6 mins left and its at 6-6 llama v long con

#1429

Golden wrote:
Rbzmncaeaei wrote:This is what I've been trying to get at for these past few pages Golden, it is not genuinely logical for a civilian to demand specifics where they are unnecessary and choose to hide specifics when they are essential to not getting yourself lynched.
I'm not sure I follow this post, but you agree that JJJ's behaviour is bizarre?

I mean, why demand that I must have a specific anti-mafia strategy in mind for his antics to suspect him...

Suspecting me is not equivalent to wanting me dead immediately.

#1430

Yeah seeing Golden's switch, I'm going with LC. I don't like a llama lynch and I don't like a tie.

#1431

I'm just going to address this because I'm tired of going in circles.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Why would I tell everyone what I'm doing when I'm clearly up to something unique?

BECAUSE YOU COULD GET LYNCHED.

At least answer this JJJ, are you going to reveal your intentions before Day 2 is finished? Because otherwise you might not have a chance.

#1432

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Golden wrote:
Rbzmncaeaei wrote:This is what I've been trying to get at for these past few pages Golden, it is not genuinely logical for a civilian to demand specifics where they are unnecessary and choose to hide specifics when they are essential to not getting yourself lynched.
I'm not sure I follow this post, but you agree that JJJ's behaviour is bizarre?

I mean, why demand that I must have a specific anti-mafia strategy in mind for his antics to suspect him...
Suspecting me is not equivalent to wanting me dead immediately.

and if it wasn't half an hour before the lynch, I would have pushed it.

And trust me, I will push it until THE END OF THIS GAME, unless you have a damn good explanation soon.

There is no way in hell your behaviour looks anything like civvie you. I want you dead. Definitely.

#1433

Elohcin wrote:
Russtifinko wrote:
Elohcin wrote:I guess no one is going to make me laugh today. *self vote*
Don't self-vote! It's not allowed!

Will you switch to someone evil if I tell you a joke?

A pirate walks into a bar with a ship's steering wheel sticking out of his pants. He sidles up and says, "Arrr, gimme a cuppa yer best grog!" And the bartender says, "Sure. And it's on the house, but first you have to tell me why that steering wheel's in your pants."

The pirate lifts up his eyepatch and gives the bartender an exasperated look, and says, "Yarrrr, it's drivin' me nuts."
Yay, thanks Russ!

Happy I could help.

#1434

And now Long Con will get lynched.

JJ, if you are civilian, you are a fool.

#1435

And JJJ switches votes without saying so in the thread. Back to JJJ.

#1436

and oops. I must have forgot that rule. eek. no modkill, please!

#1437

Hey, I'm still catching up from the five or six pages that happened while I was at work, but I couldn't help but notice that there's a sudden influx of votes on me. Please reconsider, I'm not a baddie this time.

#1438

Rbzmncaeaei wrote:At least answer this JJJ, are you going to reveal your intentions before Day 2 is finished? Because otherwise you might not have a chance.

I don't think I'll have time. I will say though that the person who most failed this test was Golden.

#1439

Rbzmncaeaei wrote:I'm just going to address this because I'm tired of going in circles.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Why would I tell everyone what I'm doing when I'm clearly up to something unique?
BECAUSE YOU COULD GET LYNCHED.

At least answer this JJJ, are you going to reveal your intentions before Day 2 is finished? Because otherwise you might not have a chance.

He revealed already

#1440

Rbzmncaeaei wrote:And JJJ switches votes without saying so in the thread. Back to JJJ.

I was responding to you. Yes I switched to LONG CON

#1441

Voting bcornett to hopefully maybe save myself? Any helpful friends out there?

#1442

Yeah that JJJ flip makes me nervous. C'mon, man...

...Sorsha, explain plz?

#1443

.....at least I thought he did.

#1444

Golden wrote:JJ, if you are civilian, you are a fool.

Well that's mean.

#1445

Went back to brian. May as well keep my vote where I believe the person is bad.

#1446

Long Con wrote:Hey, I'm still catching up from the five or six pages that happened while I was at work, but I couldn't help but notice that there's a sudden influx of votes on me. Please reconsider, I'm not a baddie this time.

It's too late, the day's almost over. I really hope you're lying here.

linki: Nope, you're a better lynch than bcorn. As JJJ now inexplicably concurs...

#1447

Long Con wrote:Voting bcornett to hopefully maybe save myself? Any helpful friends out there?

Will your lynch by as useless as my own?

#1448

#1449

Day 2 post will come shortly.

Elohcin will be punished for self-voting; reywaS will be punished for missing the vote.

Since Black Rock just replaced in, she will get off with a warning... just this time.

#1450

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Golden wrote:JJ, if you are civilian, you are a fool.
Well that's mean.

Yeah not cool, Golden. On the for real.

How would you rate Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)?