[END] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

[Marmot]

RUSSTIFINKO

Also, Russtifinko eyed Long Con for waffling early on Day 2, but was still the last player to vote on his lynch, at a point when Long Con was up 7-4. Russtifinko never commented on any of the other Long Con suspicions. The suspicion looks forced.

What about the theory that, since LC obviously voted B24 with triple effect to give himself a fighting chance, Russ bussing him prior to this and reducing his fighting odds would make Russ a very unlikely teammate?

Good question.

Now it makes me wonder why Long Con was lynched when, as far as we know, bcornett led the lynch 9-8.

5 + (1 x 3) =/= 9

Thanks, that will save me reading through the thread looking for answers.

Would you believe me if I told you I am a math major?

[Ricochet]

RUSSTIFINKO

Also, Russtifinko eyed Long Con for waffling early on Day 2, but was still the last player to vote on his lynch, at a point when Long Con was up 7-4. Russtifinko never commented on any of the other Long Con suspicions. The suspicion looks forced.

What about the theory that, since LC obviously voted B24 with triple effect to give himself a fighting chance, Russ bussing him prior to this and reducing his fighting odds would make Russ a very unlikely teammate?

Good question.

Now it makes me wonder why Long Con was lynched when, as far as we know, bcornett led the lynch 9-8.

5 + (1 x 3) =/= 9

Thanks, that will save me reading through the thread looking for answers.

Would you believe me if I told you I am a math major?

Mafia washes any life proficiency away, I can tell you that myself.

[Ricochet]

Nobody is off the poll toDay.

[Marmot]

RUSSTIFINKO

Also, Russtifinko eyed Long Con for waffling early on Day 2, but was still the last player to vote on his lynch, at a point when Long Con was up 7-4. Russtifinko never commented on any of the other Long Con suspicions. The suspicion looks forced.

What about the theory that, since LC obviously voted B24 with triple effect to give himself a fighting chance, Russ bussing him prior to this and reducing his fighting odds would make Russ a very unlikely teammate?

Good question.

Now it makes me wonder why Long Con was lynched when, as far as we know, bcornett led the lynch 9-8.

5 + (1 x 3) =/= 9

Thanks, that will save me reading through the thread looking for answers.

Would you believe me if I told you I am a math major?

Mafia washes any life proficiency away, I can tell you that myself.

Actually, my math was correct, my equation was just incorrect.

Linki: Is self-targetting allowed in this game?

[Draconus]

@bcornett: The only thing I have to say about your mega post against me is that I did indeed make efforts to defend myself when Matt F and JJJ were questioning me. Did you read those posts before calling it bullshit? Anyway, "good luck defending against this?" I feel no need to respond to the rest of your post because all I see is bullshit.

Anywho, voting Diiny today. Because, reasons.

[Draconus]

EBWOP: voting Diiny today. Sorry hosts!

[Ricochet]

Linki: Is self-targetting allowed in this game?

Give it a try. You might get what you're after.

[Marmot]

DrWilgy! I have a response for you. These 6 players are bad.

• Devin the Omniscient
  MacDougal
  Russtifinko
  seaside
  Strawhenge
  TheFloyd73

[Marmot]

Linki: Is self-targetting allowed in this game?

Give it a try. You might get what you're after.

No comment.

[Draconus]

Why?

[Marmot]

Why?

My suspicion is meta-based, but I notice you post a lot more in the thread when you have BTSC. Same thing happened in Recruitment, where you were quiet all game until you were recruited. Flash is a little harder to figure out, but you were quite active late in the game, at a time when I'm pretty sure you had BTSC.

[MacDougall]

Cool now do me.

[Draconus]

Why?

My suspicion is meta-based, but I notice you post a lot more in the thread when you have BTSC. Same thing happened in Recruitment, where you were quiet all game until you were recruited. Flash is a little harder to figure out, but you were quite active late in the game, at a time when I'm pretty sure you had BTSC.

Fair enough

[Marmot]

Cool now do me.

Your vote on Sorsha.

Your theory that you have taken as fact.

Your shift in playstyle from scumhunting to shit-flinging. Rather than defend yourself from Matt's theory, you came up with a new (albeit reasonable) theory to try to disprove him. You have pushed extremely hard back against Matt, but without having any interest in lynching Matt. I don't believe that sort of effort would come from a civvie mindset.

[MacDougall]

Cool now do me.

Your vote on Sorsha.

Your theory that you have taken as fact.

Your shift in playstyle from scumhunting to shit-flinging. Rather than defend yourself from Matt's theory, you came up with a new (albeit reasonable) theory to try to disprove him. You have pushed extremely hard back against Matt, but without having any interest in lynching Matt. I don't believe that sort of effort would come from a civvie mindset.

Hmm I feel like all these reasons are non genuine in nature. My vote on sorsha ... okay me and 9 others. My theory I have taken as fact? Care to elaborate? I've not legitimately taken it as fact?

My shift in playstyle? A result of boredom.

How can you say that "Rather than defend myself from Matt's theory, you came up with a new theory to disprove him."? If that's not a reasonable response what is? How does one defend themselves from an insane theory other than by telling the guy his theory makes no sense and then finding the more likely one? What exactly about that isn't logical?

I have pushed back against him hard because he is incorrigible. I have been on him all game for tunneling people and now he's started tunneling me for a bullshit reason. You will find that when I see people I think are townies playing poorly, they always cop my wrath.

But that second to last point worries me. You have added a perfectly reasonable response in as a reason to have a scum read on someone and for that you have really attracted my attention.

[MacDougall]

Saw Epi pop into the thread then for a second ... Where'd you go mate?

[MacDougall]

DrWilgy, Sig... Speak.

[Bullzeye]

Saw Epi pop into the thread then for a second ... Where'd you go mate?

Aww don't be that guy... This is why most people have themselves set to invisible.

[Marmot]

Cool now do me.

Your vote on Sorsha.

Your theory that you have taken as fact.

Your shift in playstyle from scumhunting to shit-flinging. Rather than defend yourself from Matt's theory, you came up with a new (albeit reasonable) theory to try to disprove him. You have pushed extremely hard back against Matt, but without having any interest in lynching Matt. I don't believe that sort of effort would come from a civvie mindset.

Hmm I feel like all these reasons are non genuine in nature. My vote on sorsha ... okay me and 9 others. My theory I have taken as fact? Care to elaborate? I've not legitimately taken it as fact?

My shift in playstyle? A result of boredom.

How can you say that "Rather than defend myself from Matt's theory, you came up with a new theory to disprove him."? If that's not a reasonable response what is? How does one defend themselves from an insane theory other than by telling the guy his theory makes no sense and then finding the more likely one? What exactly about that isn't logical?

I have pushed back against him hard because he is incorrigible. I have been on him all game for tunneling people and now he's started tunneling me for a bullshit reason. You will find that when I see people I think are townies playing poorly, they always cop my wrath.

But that second to last point worries me. You have added a perfectly reasonable response in as a reason to have a scum read on someone and for that you have really attracted my attention.

Your vote broke a 7-7 tie. Even you did not ignore the significance after the lynch. Your theory taken as fact? You called it an explanation, where as the rest of us still consider it a theory because there is nothing to prove it beyond that.

A result of boredom? Fine, I understand that feeling. Who's your top 6 per DrWilgy's request?

Matt's theory had a hole in it, but you didn't care to point that out, at least not until several other players already did. So calling it bullshit before it was proved bullshit was unwarranted. I also misspoke, as your new theory did not disprove his theory, it countered it.

Matt is incorrigible, I can see that.

If you are a civ, what good will it do to exact your wrath on another player you think is civilian?

[DrWilgy]

DrWilgy, Sig... Speak.

Sup?

Thanks for the response MM. I'll note it down as soon as I'm home from work.

[Marmot]

DrWilgy, Sig... Speak.

Sup?

Thanks for the response MM. I'll note it down as soon as I'm home from work.

Can I see your list?

The marmot peeks over the doctor's shoulder without waiting for an answer.

[MacDougall]

Cool now do me.

Your vote on Sorsha.

Your theory that you have taken as fact.

Your shift in playstyle from scumhunting to shit-flinging. Rather than defend yourself from Matt's theory, you came up with a new (albeit reasonable) theory to try to disprove him. You have pushed extremely hard back against Matt, but without having any interest in lynching Matt. I don't believe that sort of effort would come from a civvie mindset.

Hmm I feel like all these reasons are non genuine in nature. My vote on sorsha ... okay me and 9 others. My theory I have taken as fact? Care to elaborate? I've not legitimately taken it as fact?

My shift in playstyle? A result of boredom.

How can you say that "Rather than defend myself from Matt's theory, you came up with a new theory to disprove him."? If that's not a reasonable response what is? How does one defend themselves from an insane theory other than by telling the guy his theory makes no sense and then finding the more likely one? What exactly about that isn't logical?

I have pushed back against him hard because he is incorrigible. I have been on him all game for tunneling people and now he's started tunneling me for a bullshit reason. You will find that when I see people I think are townies playing poorly, they always cop my wrath.

But that second to last point worries me. You have added a perfectly reasonable response in as a reason to have a scum read on someone and for that you have really attracted my attention.

Your vote broke a 7-7 tie. Even you did not ignore the significance after the lynch. Your theory taken as fact? You called it an explanation, where as the rest of us still consider it a theory because there is nothing to prove it beyond that.

A result of boredom? Fine, I understand that feeling. Who's your top 6 per DrWilgy's request?

Matt's theory had a hole in it, but you didn't care to point that out, at least not until several other players already did. So calling it bullshit before it was proved bullshit was unwarranted. I also misspoke, as your new theory did not disprove his theory, it countered it.

Matt is incorrigible, I can see that.

If you are a civ, what good will it do to exact your wrath on another player you think is civilian?

Eh the vote is what it is. I was quite forthcoming about my stance during that whole situation. My vote was on sorsha not long before that anyway. I unvoted her to vote for motel room and MattF jokingly because I'd made my mind up to lynch sorsha way earlier in the day. My vote wasn't going anywhere other than there.

The explanation post was me mucking around.

You'll find that other players had pointed out the hole in the theory before I even came online and saw Matt's case. At first I found it mildly amusing and assumed that whichever player it was that pointed out that sorsha was dead would have put the conversation to rest but after a while he frustrated me when he refused to see sense and reason. You can probably see where I went from playful to angry if you look carefully enough.

If I see a civilian making foolish moves, how does criticising their play not assist town? Should I just allow him to lynch me with reckless abandon? Dude come on. This isn't even a scumread it's just you pointing out what I did and saying "what you did is why I think you are scum". Anyone else could say the exact same thing in reverse. Like this;

"MacDougall's reaction to being accused was to find a better solution to the double kill and find a good candidate for an actual serial killer. That's a pretty damn good response." Don't you think?

At this point there is a lot of play and a lot of reasons to go on, especially vocal players, so it doesn't surprise me that I have earned the suspicion of some. I wouldn't have it any other way. If I don't have scum players believing I am lynchable then I'm not playing the way I want to play.

Gun to head top 6 as of right now.

Devin
Diiny
Metalmarsh
bcornett24
fingersplints
Floyd

DrWilgy, Sig... Speak.

Sup?

Thanks for the response MM. I'll note it down as soon as I'm home from work.

Just wanted to say hi.

Saw Epi pop into the thread then for a second ... Where'd you go mate?

Aww don't be that guy... This is why most people have themselves set to invisible.

Oh, sorry. I thought it was cool. Saw someone else doing it before? Also saw a guy noticing dead players reading the thread and using that as part of his case. Apologies though, won't do it again.

[Marmot]

Oh, sorry. I thought it was cool. Saw someone else doing it before? Also saw a guy noticing dead players reading the thread and using that as part of his case. Apologies though, won't do it again.

Imo, if a player wishes to make himself visible online, they shouldn't be upset at all if they're accused of lurking or asked to participate.

[Choutas]

MacDougall
Strawhenge
seaside

Matt F
motel room
Roxy

Russtifinko
JaggedJimmyJay
DrWilgy

Diiny
RadicalFuzz
TheFloyd73
bcornett24
espers
fingersplints
Metalmarsh89
Black Rock

Bullzeye
Elohcin

Epignosis
Ricochet
sig
Devin the Omniscient

My confidence took a toll yesterday with Sorsha's flip. Similar to me finding Joy Division when I was 18 it was revealing but heavy and dreary.

[RadicalFuzz]

Criticism is not what you posted, Mac.

Mafia that don't kill every night can inherit a killer's powers when that killer dies and can then kill every night? I am apparently unfamiliar with certain trends on this site, including the "must be alive to win" clause present in most games. I don't get it.

[Tangrowth]

Hosts: Would you announce if the mafia failed to kill anyone? Would you announce if the mafia performed no kill attempt?

I get Psycho Killer is the main topic so far, but why isn't anyone talking about the fact that there was no mafia kill? Or that perhaps the mafia took a break? Coincidentally, at the same time when Psycho Killer got to use his kill twice?! I'm seeing nothing in the mafia's roles to explain their failure or abstinence, apart from No Compassion's secrets. Or is it perhaps Psycho Killer who is secretly able to snatch their kill, one-time or so at least (yeah, I know, I'll get to the theories revolving PK as well, just writing this thought down...)?

Yes, we would announce if the mafia failed to kill. Attempted kills are written into the post.

No, we would not announce if the mafia performed no kill attempt. A complete lack of kills are not written.

Hosts: Does the order of kills matter in a Host Post announcement?

No.

HOSTS: Does Girlfriend's redirect activate simply when Girlfriend is targeted or does the targetting need to be successful as well, in order for the redirect to function / work / be successful?

The latter (???).

[Tangrowth]

Addendum:

I might have misunderstood that last question, Rico. Can you re-word just to ensure I gave you the right answer?

[sig]

The Day is 5 the time is 10:26 EST
Attempt 1: I tried to leave the house to be bitten by a rattlesnake I know the the snake will know I deserve to die. The front door is locked and the parents won't let me out so I went to my room built a rope using my boy scout skills out of my bed sheets and grappled out the window, down the wall in an attempt to find a rattlesnake. I've safely gotten out the window without falling to my death or my "rope" breaking looks like Boy scouts did teach me something and will begin my search for a rattlesnake in the concrete jungle of Philadelphia after this post. Hopefully it will realize I deserve to die then using it's magic snake powers like in Jungle Book convince y'all to vote for me.

What the hell are these posts? You were already punished to desire death. I'm not seeing any second challenger in the roles. Unless the power absorber really exists. It can't be the Mafia, because Sorsha was lynched.

I deserve to die for not explaining why I wrote such things, I guess you're just going to have to guess though.

I find the argument for Epi being the SK to have some good points, after considering the Mac Sk theory I'm not as confident in it.

Choutus why am I red on your list?

I'm leaning to an Epi vote today especially with the FZ killing it isn't looking good for him. I will need to look over Devin again I know he was second place yesterday and had been gaining attention for awhile.

[Ricochet]

Addendum:

I might have misunderstood that last question, Rico. Can you re-word just to ensure I gave you the right answer?

Player targets Girlfriend with power N.

Is power N automatically duplicated (with 50% odds) onto random civ X or does that happens only if power N successfully hit Girlfriend?

If power N is successfully duplicated onto random civ X, if power N didn't work on Girlfriend, can it still work on random civ X?

Hope it's clearer now.

[Epignosis]

The Day is 5 the time is 10:26 EST
Attempt 1: I tried to leave the house to be bitten by a rattlesnake I know the the snake will know I deserve to die. The front door is locked and the parents won't let me out so I went to my room built a rope using my boy scout skills out of my bed sheets and grappled out the window, down the wall in an attempt to find a rattlesnake. I've safely gotten out the window without falling to my death or my "rope" breaking looks like Boy scouts did teach me something and will begin my search for a rattlesnake in the concrete jungle of Philadelphia after this post. Hopefully it will realize I deserve to die then using it's magic snake powers like in Jungle Book convince y'all to vote for me.

What the hell are these posts? You were already punished to desire death. I'm not seeing any second challenger in the roles. Unless the power absorber really exists. It can't be the Mafia, because Sorsha was lynched.

I deserve to die for not explaining why I wrote such things, I guess you're just going to have to guess though.

I find the argument for Epi being the SK to have some good points, after considering the Mac Sk theory I'm not as confident in it.

Choutus why am I red on your list?

I'm leaning to an Epi vote today especially with the FZ killing it isn't looking good for him. I will need to look over Devin again I know he was second place yesterday and had been gaining attention for awhile.

Oh?

I would imagine one person here knows for certain that I am not the Psycho Killer.

[Ricochet]

Choutas why am I red on your list?

Oh, also same question.

[sig]

DrWilgy, Sig... Speak.

hello,
I would have spoke sooner but I just know after running through the streets was able to escape the cops in what became a city wide manhunt, I really do deserve to die for wasting their time in such a manner but since none of you offered to help pay my bail or hide me in your home I'm glad I didn't turn myself in,after getting caught in someones house using their computer to post, while walking home from my attempt to find a rattlesnake.

EBWOP: voting Diiny today. Sorry hosts!

why Diiny could you explain your reasoning for it?

Epi who do you think that one player is?

[Marmot]

The Day is 5 the time is 10:26 EST
Attempt 1: I tried to leave the house to be bitten by a rattlesnake I know the the snake will know I deserve to die. The front door is locked and the parents won't let me out so I went to my room built a rope using my boy scout skills out of my bed sheets and grappled out the window, down the wall in an attempt to find a rattlesnake. I've safely gotten out the window without falling to my death or my "rope" breaking looks like Boy scouts did teach me something and will begin my search for a rattlesnake in the concrete jungle of Philadelphia after this post. Hopefully it will realize I deserve to die then using it's magic snake powers like in Jungle Book convince y'all to vote for me.

What the hell are these posts? You were already punished to desire death. I'm not seeing any second challenger in the roles. Unless the power absorber really exists. It can't be the Mafia, because Sorsha was lynched.

I deserve to die for not explaining why I wrote such things, I guess you're just going to have to guess though.

I find the argument for Epi being the SK to have some good points, after considering the Mac Sk theory I'm not as confident in it.

Choutus why am I red on your list?

I'm leaning to an Epi vote today especially with the FZ killing it isn't looking good for him. I will need to look over Devin again I know he was second place yesterday and had been gaining attention for awhile.

Oh?

I would imagine one person here knows for certain that I am not the Psycho Killer.

That's a loaded comment Epignosis.

[Choutas]

The Day is 5 the time is 10:26 EST
Attempt 1: I tried to leave the house to be bitten by a rattlesnake I know the the snake will know I deserve to die. The front door is locked and the parents won't let me out so I went to my room built a rope using my boy scout skills out of my bed sheets and grappled out the window, down the wall in an attempt to find a rattlesnake. I've safely gotten out the window without falling to my death or my "rope" breaking looks like Boy scouts did teach me something and will begin my search for a rattlesnake in the concrete jungle of Philadelphia after this post. Hopefully it will realize I deserve to die then using it's magic snake powers like in Jungle Book convince y'all to vote for me.

What the hell are these posts? You were already punished to desire death. I'm not seeing any second challenger in the roles. Unless the power absorber really exists. It can't be the Mafia, because Sorsha was lynched.

I deserve to die for not explaining why I wrote such things, I guess you're just going to have to guess though.

I find the argument for Epi being the SK to have some good points, after considering the Mac Sk theory I'm not as confident in it.

Choutus why am I red on your list?

I'm leaning to an Epi vote today especially with the FZ killing it isn't looking good for him. I will need to look over Devin again I know he was second place yesterday and had been gaining attention for awhile.

I voted for you on day 2 so it wouldn't surprise you that much.
"Plus I have a feeling he might be the SK why else would he try to stop us from discussing it? Right know the SK is going after high profile civs we've got to focus some attention on him as well imo, but I deserve to die so am I really worth listening to? Please review Choutas posts there is just something off about them"
I didn't try to stop you I said it's a big scumtell, you're free to speak your mind just don't accuse me when I point out scumtells. A scum would be much more invested than a townie to eliminate the SK. I've done it myself as an inexperienced scum before.
Why don't you review my posts yourself? Another scummy thing to do. I can't make a case myself so someone do it for me please.

Also
"Poor Golden I can't believe that happened to him he didn't deserve to die. The Psycho Killer should have killed me instead I deserve to die not golden."
I don't like this. Maybe they won't kill you cause you're in fact scum?

[Tangrowth]

Addendum:

I might have misunderstood that last question, Rico. Can you re-word just to ensure I gave you the right answer?

Player targets Girlfriend with power N.

Is power N automatically duplicated (with 50% odds) onto random civ X or does that happens only if power N successfully hit Girlfriend?

If power N is successfully duplicated onto random civ X, if power N didn't work on Girlfriend, can it still work on random civ X?

Hope it's clearer now.

Okay, I see, thanks for clarifying. My previous answer mostly holds, but it depends on the nature of the fail.

For example, if killer targets Girlfriend Is Better, but killer is role blocked, then no duplication (with 50% odds).

If killer targets Girlfriend Is Better, but Girlfriend Is Better is protected from NKs, then yes duplication (with 50% odds).

This is because the block effectively prevents a duplication from happening. So, essentially, a 50% duplication will happen if Girlfriend is targeted, but not if the player targeting Girlfriend fails to be successful specifically due to a role block.

[Ricochet]

Choutas, certain players saying insistently that they deserve to die has been a recurring thing for the past phases.

[Ricochet]

Okay, I see, thanks for clarifying. My previous answer mostly holds, but it depends on the nature of the fail.

For example, if killer targets Girlfriend Is Better, but killer is role blocked, then no duplication (with 50% odds).

If killer targets Girlfriend Is Better, but Girlfriend Is Better is protected from NKs, then yes duplication (with 50% odds).

This is because the block effectively prevents a duplication from happening. So, essentially, a 50% duplication will happen if Girlfriend is targeted, but not if the player targeting Girlfriend fails to be successful specifically due to a role block.

Thanks, MP!

Hmmm. So I guess that means the Girlfriend theory can hold ground, unless Psycho Killer was blocked.

[Choutas]

Choutas, certain players saying insistently that they deserve to die has been a recurring thing for the past phases.

In the mafia country where I come from that's peculiar to say the least. Call me the mafia Borat or something.

[Marmot]

Okay, I see, thanks for clarifying. My previous answer mostly holds, but it depends on the nature of the fail.

For example, if killer targets Girlfriend Is Better, but killer is role blocked, then no duplication (with 50% odds).

If killer targets Girlfriend Is Better, but Girlfriend Is Better is protected from NKs, then yes duplication (with 50% odds).

This is because the block effectively prevents a duplication from happening. So, essentially, a 50% duplication will happen if Girlfriend is targeted, but not if the player targeting Girlfriend fails to be successful specifically due to a role block.

Thanks, MP!

Hmmm. So I guess that means the Girlfriend theory can hold ground, unless Psycho Killer was blocked.

I don't think Psycho Killer was blocked though.

[Ricochet]

Choutas, certain players saying insistently that they deserve to die has been a recurring thing for the past phases.

In the mafia country where I come from that's peculiar to say the least. Call me the mafia Borat or something.

Possibly, but it's "coming from management", so to speak. I'm not sure you should genuinely scumread players for this specific thing.

[Epignosis]

Epi who do you think that one player is?

I'm not interested in saying more, except that it's clearly not you.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

That's a loaded comment Epignosis.

What do you mean?

[Draconus]

Is it only me, or does anyone else see that JJJ is still on night 4? Lol.

[Draconus]

And sig, since I haven't spoken to you much (if at all), I'll get an answer for your question when I get a chance. I have about 2 hours to finish up this project at work.

[sig]

Epi who do you think that one player is?

I'm not interested in saying more, except that it's clearly not you.

Well of course it wasn't me, and if it was me then wow I really do deserve to die.

@Choutas you've been active in reading the thread so the fact that certain people deserve to die shouldn't be news to you I find it interesting you try to use this in an argument against me.

Attempt 1 failed, I managed to sneak back into the house without being caught by the police or my parents. I will begin to plan Attempt 2 to find someone who agrees that I deserve to die.

linki: No problem there isn't a rush since we still have a good amount of time left this phase.

[Marmot]

That's a loaded comment Epignosis.

What do you mean?

- Epignosis could be bluffing.
- If he is not, he could be implying that the real Psycho Killer knows who he/she are, and that Epignosis is not he/she.
- He could also be implying that another player knows what Epignosis's role is for whatever reason, and thus cannot be Psycho Killer.
- He could just be saying that he knows he is not Psycho Killer in a roundabout way.

Some of these ideas take the discussion to areas that are OB. Epignosis dropped a lot of implications with a single statement.



Here's another theory I would like to introduce. Epignosis loves revenge. He will exact revenge for not only himself, but for teammates as well, and I have been a victim of this. Now, in Recruitment Mafia, Golden "got Epignosis nightkilled by mafia" very early in that game. As an act of vengeance, Epignosis would return the favor and nightkill Golden.

[Marmot]

Is it only me, or does anyone else see that JJJ is still on night 4? Lol.

He quoted me from a residual conversation that began Night 4.

[Bullzeye]

That's a loaded comment Epignosis.

What do you mean?

- Epignosis could be bluffing.
- If he is not, he could be implying that the real Psycho Killer knows who he/she are, and that Epignosis is not he/she.
- He could also be implying that another player knows what Epignosis's role is for whatever reason, and thus cannot be Psycho Killer.
- He could just be saying that he knows he is not Psycho Killer in a roundabout way.

Some of these ideas take the discussion to areas that are OB. Epignosis dropped a lot of implications with a single statement.



Here's another theory I would like to introduce. Epignosis loves revenge. He will exact revenge for not only himself, but for teammates as well, and I have been a victim of this. Now, in Recruitment Mafia, Golden "got Epignosis nightkilled by mafia" very early in that game. As an act of vengeance, Epignosis would return the favor and nightkill Golden.

Would just like to comment that Golden had nothing at all to do with Epi dying. The only person responsible for Epi's death is Bass and his random redirection power that was in effect that night.

[Ricochet]

Here's another theory I would like to introduce. Epignosis loves revenge. He will exact revenge for not only himself, but for teammates as well, and I have been a victim of this. Now, in Recruitment Mafia, Golden "got Epignosis nightkilled by mafia" very early in that game. As an act of vengeance, Epignosis would return the favor and nightkill Golden.

You said you don't think Psycho Killer was blocked.

[Marmot]

Here's another theory I would like to introduce. Epignosis loves revenge. He will exact revenge for not only himself, but for teammates as well, and I have been a victim of this. Now, in Recruitment Mafia, Golden "got Epignosis nightkilled by mafia" very early in that game. As an act of vengeance, Epignosis would return the favor and nightkill Golden.

You said you don't think Psycho Killer was blocked.

If PsK was blocked, then nobody would die, right?