[END] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

[Epignosis]

Oh, unless you meant that I won't literally be shocked, as in BZZZZZZZTTK!!

[Epignosis]

If I had two lynches as of this moment, they'd go to 3J and Russ.

[Matt]

If I had two lynches as of this moment, they'd go to 3J and Russ.

You think motel room is clean or you just like these two better?

What about your suspicion of Choutas "no matter how seaside flips" ?

[Epignosis]

If I had two lynches as of this moment, they'd go to 3J and Russ.

You think motel room is clean or you just like these two better?

Russ was my Day 1 suspect, and he never left that list.

motel room...well, I didn't make it to takeaway the fourth last night, due to seaside telling me I was taking him out of context and Choutas coming in with that giant floater last minute. I'll have to examine him in greater detail before I can say yay or nay.

What about your suspicion of Choutas "no matter how seaside flips" ?

Bitter, bitter hubris.

[Matt]

If I had two lynches as of this moment, they'd go to 3J and Russ.

You think motel room is clean or you just like these two better?

Russ was my Day 1 suspect, and he never left that list.

motel room...well, I didn't make it to takeaway the fourth last night, due to seaside telling me I was taking him out of context and Choutas coming in with that giant floater last minute. I'll have to examine him in greater detail before I can say yay or nay.

What about your suspicion of Choutas "no matter how seaside flips" ?

Bitter, bitter hubris.

motel room may even be right that I'm "tunneling" him as I did Sorsha earlier in the game, however I believe the reasons behind my focus on him are much better this time around.

Per the underline, I encourage you do, whenever you're not working, and cooking meals, and losing fantasy football money and all that jazz.

[Marmot]

And here is what the Day 7 lynch looked like before the votes moved from Jay to seaside. Just keeping a record.

Spoiler: show

JaggedJimmyJay - 7

• Metalmarsh89 (1), Epignosis (3), seaside (4), TheFloyd73 (6), Elohcin (8), sig (14), Diiny (15)

TheFloyd73 - 5

• Choutas (5), Strawhenge (10), Matt F (11), bcornett (12), Bullzeye (13)

Russtifinko - 1

• motel room (2)

DrWilgy - 1

• RadicalFuzz (7)

Black Rock - 1

• JaggedJimmyJay (9)

[Marmot]

If I had two lynches as of this moment, they'd go to 3J and Russ.

[Ricochet]

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 40#p184571

Still thinking about this post actually. I'm just loving it, it's very helpful for me. Thank you.

Ricochet, what do you think about Black Rock "just loving" your LC interactions post? Does this mean you were dead wrong in that post? Does this mean you and BR are teamies? Just curious, I'm not sure what to make of it. Although for some reason or another, I forget, I think I had you marked as anti-Mafia (oh I think it was because your big case on MacD helped us get him...then again MacD's case on Long Con helped lynch LC sooooo). Anyway your thoughts?

Teamies... That word does not exist in my language in this game. I'm good.

No idea what it helped her or her team with, considering I've caught a baddie so far with it - so I couldn't have been "dead wrong", at least with some angles in there. I don't remember her developing any leads from the "very helpful" posts I've made. It all sounds like empty praise to me.

There was no MacBaddie case on LC, they exchanged mutual banter and opposition on the Flowers subjected, and then MacBaddie cheered the LC lynch from the sidelines.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 40#p184571

Still thinking about this post actually. I'm just loving it, it's very helpful for me. Thank you.

Negative
Matt
finding his ping "phony" in joining sig's wording case

MacDougall
suspicious of motel room for bringing up Flowers tactics (although this seems like self-aware fake sussing, imo, since LC was Flowers)
voting MacDougall D2

Can the green part of this be explained more? Is this Macs suspicion or LC's?

Uhh pretty sure that's in LC's section, so it's LC's suspicion on MacDougall.

Basically both Mac and motel brought up some interpretations of what Flowers might have done with his D1 vote and then LC sussed them both for talking about it. I already pointed out this suspicion looks fake, since LC was of course Flowers himself. But it still counts as LC putting heat on Mac for this.

I was confused on where motel room fit in under Mac, that's all.

Rico, I hope you're still reading this (I read all of your big posts, dude!!! Haha). Are you saying Long Con was suspicious of both MacD and motel room because of discussing the Flowers role? I'll have to go check that out to be sure. Funny, we know Long Con and MacD were teamies, where does motel room fit in, knowing what we do now about MR trying to dissuade a Mac lynch Day 6 and bandwagoning a civvie Day 7?

Yes, LC hissed at both MacD and motel for discussing Flowers (which he turned out to be).
motel fits in as a busser, compared to Mac only distancing and sidelining the LC lynch for creds afterwards.

[Tangrowth]

Also, I failed to announce this before, but:

Love for Sale is accepting offers for its Day 8 vote!

[seaside]

Damn youse bandwagoned me when i didn't even have a chance to defend myself (and then made it out like i was refusing!)
anyway, thanks for the game mods and people
good luck town!

[motel room]

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 40#p184571

Still thinking about this post actually. I'm just loving it, it's very helpful for me. Thank you.

Negative
Matt
finding his ping "phony" in joining sig's wording case

MacDougall
suspicious of motel room for bringing up Flowers tactics (although this seems like self-aware fake sussing, imo, since LC was Flowers)
voting MacDougall D2

Can the green part of this be explained more? Is this Macs suspicion or LC's?

Uhh pretty sure that's in LC's section, so it's LC's suspicion on MacDougall.

Basically both Mac and motel brought up some interpretations of what Flowers might have done with his D1 vote and then LC sussed them both for talking about it. I already pointed out this suspicion looks fake, since LC was of course Flowers himself. But it still counts as LC putting heat on Mac for this.

I was confused on where motel room fit in under Mac, that's all.

Rico, I hope you're still reading this (I read all of your big posts, dude!!! Haha). Are you saying Long Con was suspicious of both MacD and motel room because of discussing the Flowers role? I'll have to go check that out to be sure. Funny, we know Long Con and MacD were teamies, where does motel room fit in, knowing what we do now about MR trying to dissuade a Mac lynch Day 6 and bandwagoning a civvie Day 7?

Yes, LC hissed at both MacD and motel for discussing Flowers (which he turned out to be).
motel fits in as a busser, compared to Mac only distancing and sidelining the LC lynch for creds afterwards.

Hi. Can someone point out where I was supposed to have discussed this Flowers role with these people? And if not, do we know who Ricochet is actually confusing me with in that post?

[motel room]

I think your trying to get me to respond in an attempt to make me slip up and get me lynched, and it really isn't my place to tell you who has been suspicious of me that would be like building the case for my own lynch a rather silly thing to do.

well we wouldn't want you to slip up now

lol remember this?

[Matt]

Decided to ISO 3J and ctrl F motel room in his posts...here are the results...

I would normally start off with a vote for sleepystalinist, but he is not here so instead, I'll vote for motel room because he has something to do with sleeping.

Hey bcornett24, usually even random votes are accompanied by a semi-relevant reason (hey, like this one!). What's your objective with this one, m8?

Asks bcornett his objective with bc's obvious random vote of motel room

During Day 2, adds support to motel room's questioning of SIG

Also on Day 2, motel room barely suspects 3J with a "read through feel"

catching up and i got myself a cup of those jjj scumman blues

Y'all should form a club. Why?

We did. We're called the Jag-Offs.

Its a read-through feel, like you're not invested in the answers to your questions and your cases are solid but not passionate.

COMPLETELY UNRELATED but found this back and forth with a confirmed scum "joking" about team win conditions

JJJ, why did you move your vote?

Linki JJJ: what?

Because it seemed like the right course of action to progress my team's win condition.

I'm completely willing to help flip this lynch to JJJ. I don't trust him in the least. Anyone else on board?

considering

Cool! What do you think of my most recent contributions, aokiji?

i think you're leaning into that wifom that people cant help but double-think.

Are you being this guy right now to benefit town or to screw with us\your meta?

I hope it'll benefit town. The intentions are honest at least.

what are the intentions?

I'll reveal that soon.

Then 3J makes a big post about how he intentionally "went off his rocker" to garner reactions or somesuch, explains why he voted Llama during the late Llama train on Day 2 (when LC was being lynched), then explains that he really thought LC was bad all along.

~~~

The most important thing is this I think: I enacted this strategy while under zero pressure personally. I had no need to escape any manner of pressure or redirect attention -- I just came up with an idea and went for it.

this is true. You weren't a lynch contender until you did this to yourself. Interesting.

I'm not sure if this is a statement against me, for me, or neither, but I guess it's true.

And hey presto, Motel Room and 3J are friends again.

Oh, and it's funny, I quoted this exchange between Strawhenge and Motel room in another post, but now I get to quote it again because 3J joined in the fun...poor Sorsha (I'm so very sorry for tunneling you Sorsha)

The thing about Sorsha is the second most pingy one. He was asked directly by another player, and gave a really dodgy response.

truthfact

Agreed, not a great look for Sorsha. Good eye, Strawhenge.

Here is 3J's G2H read on Motel Room

MARSH

MOTEL ROOM

ZEBRA

REYWAS

good

good

good

good

3J then does a Motel Room/Long Con relationship analysis, and Motel Room comes out "good" in 3J's eyes. Actually, 3J seemed to be cheerleading Motel Room's towniness in that post.

3J does a rainbow read, motel room is "green". I'm surprised he wasn't blue considering 3J's very strong town read of him during his LC analysis. In this same rainbow list, 3J has MacDougall listed as blue, while Devin (civvie) and thellama (civvie) are RED.

Asks Zebra the following...

I'm interested to know what your misgivings are with motel room, Zebs

What does everyone think of jjj, diiny and espers?

The order i would lynch them is espers > diiny > jjj. I'm reading jjj as jenuine atm.

Please expand.

The level that Diiny has slipped to, I feel like espers has been there all game. He's a total unknown quantity to me and that worries me so at the time I would have been cooler with an espers lynch than a Diiny lynch.

However, that non-vote Diiny put in at the end of the last Day that was so off-bandwagon that it was blinding probably puts him over espers atm if I were to rewrite that order.

And you're streets behind those two.

I can dig it. I think they're both highly suspicious at this point and would endorse their lynches for the sake of pursuing mafia instead of the SK.

Motel Room sees 3J as genuine now. 3J would like to lynch espers (civvie) or diiny (unknown) for the sake of pursuing mafia instead of the SK (of which on that particular day, baddie MacDougall was getting a lot of flak for being the SK)

Now this NEXT ONE is curious...

J3, gun to your head LYLO, would you lynch me or motel room?

If I literally had seconds to decide, probably motel room. I don't read either of you as scummy right now though.

But in your earlier G2H read, you have motel room as good. In your rainbow list, you have motel room at green. In your LC relationship analysis, you believe Motel room is good. Why would you want to lynch motel room over Radical Fuzz, who substituted for a player (reywas) who's biggest contribution in the game after four days was to say "hello" once?

Gonna GTH the whole mafia team without thinking about it a ton (can't at work):

Black Rock
Diiny
Choutas
motel room
Metalmarsh89
Russtifinko (I know this contradicts my prior thing, oh well)

More of 3J thinking motel room is mafia now, despite earlier reads cheerleading town for him.

The following occurs on Day 6, when MacDougall is in severe danger of getting lynched. Did two teamies try to bus another teamie in an effort to keep their other teamie alive?

I could do a black rock vote. Dunno if it'd pick up enough steam

It can if you help me. There's still time to lynch anyone.

BLACK ROCK

alrighty, Black Rock

Later...

Diiny then

Why aren't you keen on the Mac lynch?

Great question, 3J. Are you still curious as to why motel room isn't keen on a MacD lynch?

LOL @ the following

Then motel room and I tried again to generate a Black Rock lynch and got her up to 3 votes. It didn't work out. We both moved back to Diiny. That was the plan all along.

Straight from the horse's mouth.

Another G2H read on motel room. Surely after G2H'ding motel room on the Mafia team, this G2H will read "bad" for motel room, right? Especially after motel room helped try to dissuade people from voting Mac, right? Right?

MOTEL ROOM

RADICAL FUZZ

RICOCHET

ROXY

good

good

good

good

M'kay

**********

I think lynching 3J or Motel Room would be a swell idea for Day 8.

[motel room]

Also, boosh and/or kakow.

Linki: but Ricochet, the drugs are everlasting. The player receives 2 votes every day, not just the next day.

Doesn't change the fact he can drug another player.

I'm just saying that someone could currently be drugged, but it would have happened Night 4.

If it wasn't Devin (which, given the 6-8 down distance, is rather hard to believe), then yes.

If it was Devin, then no one is currently drugged, because I didn't pay attention to the even night specification.

Night 2 didn't happen
Night 4 - Devin or not Devin
Night 6 didn't happen

So back to this other thing, if seaside was isolating those three players (jjj, diiny, espers) because of voting shenanigans he saw on Day 4, that actually would indicate they were more likely to be town?

[motel room]

(I'm so very sorry for tunneling you Sorsha)

at least I have one of these to look forward to

[Ricochet]

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 40#p184571

Still thinking about this post actually. I'm just loving it, it's very helpful for me. Thank you.

Negative
Matt
finding his ping "phony" in joining sig's wording case

MacDougall
suspicious of motel room for bringing up Flowers tactics (although this seems like self-aware fake sussing, imo, since LC was Flowers)
voting MacDougall D2

Can the green part of this be explained more? Is this Macs suspicion or LC's?

Uhh pretty sure that's in LC's section, so it's LC's suspicion on MacDougall.

Basically both Mac and motel brought up some interpretations of what Flowers might have done with his D1 vote and then LC sussed them both for talking about it. I already pointed out this suspicion looks fake, since LC was of course Flowers himself. But it still counts as LC putting heat on Mac for this.

I was confused on where motel room fit in under Mac, that's all.

Rico, I hope you're still reading this (I read all of your big posts, dude!!! Haha). Are you saying Long Con was suspicious of both MacD and motel room because of discussing the Flowers role? I'll have to go check that out to be sure. Funny, we know Long Con and MacD were teamies, where does motel room fit in, knowing what we do now about MR trying to dissuade a Mac lynch Day 6 and bandwagoning a civvie Day 7?

Yes, LC hissed at both MacD and motel for discussing Flowers (which he turned out to be).
motel fits in as a busser, compared to Mac only distancing and sidelining the LC lynch for creds afterwards.

Hi. Can someone point out where I was supposed to have discussed this Flowers role with these people? And if not, do we know who Ricochet is actually confusing me with in that post?

Hmm...

Yes, it seems the confusion is mine. I picked up Long Con referencing you for having discussed about Flowers...although it seems he just didn't remember which one of you or MacDougall did it.. Here's the post. I wrote this down in my interactions book under LC mentioning Mac and you, then copypasta'd it to separate entries - which explains the mistake Black Rock pointed out to...

Yet, I didn't write you down back then as having interacted with LC by discussing about Flowers...

D1 (one of his first posts, in fact) calls LC's case too confident worded and bea's reply to it legit
dislikes LC's twist ("pressured and gross", backpedalling)
D2 criticses LC's seaside lynch intent; votes LC, but shortly switches to Choutas
vote back on LC
D3 suss's Epig, Sorsha right away for defending LC

So my bad.

[Marmot]

Ricochet, thoughts on Russtifinko?

[Ricochet]

Also, boosh and/or kakow.

Linki: but Ricochet, the drugs are everlasting. The player receives 2 votes every day, not just the next day.

Doesn't change the fact he can drug another player.

I'm just saying that someone could currently be drugged, but it would have happened Night 4.

If it wasn't Devin (which, given the 6-8 down distance, is rather hard to believe), then yes.

If it was Devin, then no one is currently drugged, because I didn't pay attention to the even night specification.

Night 2 didn't happen
Night 4 - Devin or not Devin
Night 6 didn't happen

So back to this other thing, if seaside was isolating those three players (jjj, diiny, espers) because of voting shenanigans he saw on Day 4, that actually would indicate they were more likely to be town?

He started singling out JJJ, Diiny and Espers on Day 4, not after seeing voting shenanigans happening on Day 4. He would have gotten such results after Day 4, at the earliest.

[Ricochet]

Ricochet, thoughts on Russtifinko?

I don't have thoughts at 2am after a day spent teaching, then in bed, with a nasty cold in both mediums. Just reading in real time and commenting on what I can.

Need to read him.

[Marmot]

Ricochet, thoughts on Russtifinko?

I don't have thoughts at 2am after a day spent teaching, then in bed, with a nasty cold in both mediums. Just reading in real time and commenting on what I can.

Need to read him.

Alright, you've still got over 48 hours until the end of the next lynch at least.

[Ricochet]

Ricochet, thoughts on Russtifinko?

I don't have thoughts at 2am after a day spent teaching, then in bed, with a nasty cold in both mediums. Just reading in real time and commenting on what I can.

Need to read him.

Alright, you've still got over 48 hours until the end of the next lynch at least.

If This Must Be the Place protects me tonight, ture.

[Marmot]

Ricochet, thoughts on Russtifinko?

I don't have thoughts at 2am after a day spent teaching, then in bed, with a nasty cold in both mediums. Just reading in real time and commenting on what I can.

Need to read him.

Alright, you've still got over 48 hours until the end of the next lynch at least.

If This Must Be the Place protects me tonight, ture.

Ture.

Well in that case, hurry your ass up.

[Ricochet]

Ricochet, thoughts on Russtifinko?

I don't have thoughts at 2am after a day spent teaching, then in bed, with a nasty cold in both mediums. Just reading in real time and commenting on what I can.

Need to read him.

Alright, you've still got over 48 hours until the end of the next lynch at least.

If This Must Be the Place protects me tonight, ture.

Ture.

Well in that case, hurry your ass up.

Not hurrying tonight, except to sleep. Retirement awaits, if the opposite will happen.

I understand I finally get paid for having played mafia here the past 10 months...?

[motel room]

Also, boosh and/or kakow.

Linki: but Ricochet, the drugs are everlasting. The player receives 2 votes every day, not just the next day.

Doesn't change the fact he can drug another player.

I'm just saying that someone could currently be drugged, but it would have happened Night 4.

If it wasn't Devin (which, given the 6-8 down distance, is rather hard to believe), then yes.

If it was Devin, then no one is currently drugged, because I didn't pay attention to the even night specification.

Night 2 didn't happen
Night 4 - Devin or not Devin
Night 6 didn't happen

So back to this other thing, if seaside was isolating those three players (jjj, diiny, espers) because of voting shenanigans he saw on Day 4, that actually would indicate they were more likely to be town?

He started singling out JJJ, Diiny and Espers on Day 4, not after seeing voting shenanigans happening on Day 4. He would have gotten such results after Day 4, at the earliest.

Yeah no thats what I mean:
So back to this other thing, if seaside was isolating those three players (jjj, diiny, espers) because of voting shenanigans he saw, on Day 4, that actually would indicate they were more likely to be town? - threw in a comma

But yeah, aside from the Day being clarified, am I correct or misunderstanding?

[Elohcin]

Elohcin is the only female player left.

It better stay that way baddies!

Elohcin is the only female player left.

Linki: Agreed

Unfortunately for any feminists around here, she seems to obey her husband this game.

Truth be told, I am no feminist and I do follow the Bible's teachings. Being submissive doesn't mean I am being walked all over, it just means I allow my husband to be leader of the household. I believe I did well in finding a man that I could trust to lead us.

Now, back to mafia....I don't even think there is much to discuss at this point. I know which two people I would like to see lynched in the next two days. Lets do this and get some better results. I will no allow myself to be sidetracked.

If motel room ends up as civvie, I will literally be shocked.

No you won't.

I am just picturing it. Maybey Matt was just trying to tell a joke

[Matt]

(I'm so very sorry for tunneling you Sorsha)

at least I have one of these to look forward to

Possibly. If you took yourself out of the equation, are you able to admit that it looks sketchy?

Also, I am still fixated on Strawhenge referring to Mac as a "scum buddy" but not voting for him during Day 6. Since Strawhenge refused to vote for Mac, and referred to him as your and 3J's "scum buddy" before his role was revealed, do you expect Strawhenge to be looking at you or 3J today?

Linki - Hi Eloh! I'll tell ya a joke if I survive the Night phase. Yippee

[Epignosis]

Gaw damn Matt F is hungry.

[Ricochet]

Also, boosh and/or kakow.

Linki: but Ricochet, the drugs are everlasting. The player receives 2 votes every day, not just the next day.

Doesn't change the fact he can drug another player.

I'm just saying that someone could currently be drugged, but it would have happened Night 4.

If it wasn't Devin (which, given the 6-8 down distance, is rather hard to believe), then yes.

If it was Devin, then no one is currently drugged, because I didn't pay attention to the even night specification.

Night 2 didn't happen
Night 4 - Devin or not Devin
Night 6 didn't happen

So back to this other thing, if seaside was isolating those three players (jjj, diiny, espers) because of voting shenanigans he saw on Day 4, that actually would indicate they were more likely to be town?

He started singling out JJJ, Diiny and Espers on Day 4, not after seeing voting shenanigans happening on Day 4. He would have gotten such results after Day 4, at the earliest.

Yeah no thats what I mean:
So back to this other thing, if seaside was isolating those three players (jjj, diiny, espers) because of voting shenanigans he saw, on Day 4, that actually would indicate they were more likely to be town? - threw in a comma

But yeah, aside from the Day being clarified, am I correct or misunderstanding?

Ok, got it this time.

Problem with that is that if he saw shenanigans on Day 3 and singled out JJJ, Diiny and espers for that reason, those players were all on me.

How could there have been Day 3 shenanigans on my wagon, if I didn't get lynched? At 7-6, IIRC, I would have edged out Golden in the tally, with any kind of vote manipulation.

[Marmot]

Not hurrying tonight, except to sleep. Retirement awaits, if the opposite will happen.

I understand I finally get paid for having played mafia here the past 10 months...?

Your mafia career is too short to retire.

[Marmot]

Gaw damn Matt F is hungry.

Does he enjoy omelette au fromage?

[Epignosis]

Unfortunately for any feminists around here, she seems to obey her husband this game.

Truth be told, I am no feminist and I do follow the Bible's teachings. Being submissive doesn't mean I am being walked all over, it just means I allow my husband to be leader of the household. I believe I did well in finding a man that I could trust to lead us.

You picked a guy who can't pee in the toilet. WTG

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If you took yourself out of the equation, are you able to admit that it looks sketchy?

Yep. This is probably the most suspicious I'll ever be as a townie, I'd lynch me too. Y'all can scoff at that, I don't much care. I sort of regret that I survived Day 7, that really played right into the mafia team's hands. Maybe the BR modkill gives us the leeway in the numbers to remedy that blunder today, though 4 mafia alive is still quite daunting (unless Epi is right about HamburgerBoy or there is a surprise mafioso among the other corpses).

I'll address your points in a more substantial manner in due time, Matt. Tonight I am taking a break from this game. Work was a miserable headache, and the climate of this game re: me right now is the opposite of good medicine.

Those who remain suspicious of me: cool, fine. Everyone already knows why. I only implore you to waste as little time as possible talking about me and get your scumhunting efforts to the rest of the players. If you can manage to be objective without an actual flip of my role, I also strongly recommend against looking for scum via people's interactions with me -- because I'm not one of them. I'll be back tomorrow to make whatever dent in this game I can still make. Another dead mafia is a good source of information.

[Elohcin]

Unfortunately for any feminists around here, she seems to obey her husband this game.

Truth be told, I am no feminist and I do follow the Bible's teachings. Being submissive doesn't mean I am being walked all over, it just means I allow my husband to be leader of the household. I believe I did well in finding a man that I could trust to lead us.

You picked a guy who can't pee in the toilet. WTG

okay...he's not a leader after 9pm :P

[Epignosis]

Unfortunately for any feminists around here, she seems to obey her husband this game.

Truth be told, I am no feminist and I do follow the Bible's teachings. Being submissive doesn't mean I am being walked all over, it just means I allow my husband to be leader of the household. I believe I did well in finding a man that I could trust to lead us.

You picked a guy who can't pee in the toilet. WTG

okay...he's not a leader after 9pm :P

[Matt]

If you took yourself out of the equation, are you able to admit that it looks sketchy?

Yep. This is probably the most suspicious I'll ever be as a townie, I'd lynch me too. Y'all can scoff at that, I don't much care. I sort of regret that I survived Day 7, that really played right into the mafia team's hands. Maybe the BR modkill gives us the leeway in the numbers to remedy that blunder today, though 4 mafia alive is still quite daunting (unless Epi is right about HamburgerBoy or there is a surprise mafioso among the other corpses).

I'll address your points in a more substantial manner in due time, Matt. Tonight I am taking a break from this game. Work was a miserable headache, and the climate of this game re: me right now is the opposite of good medicine.

Those who remain suspicious of me: cool, fine. Everyone already knows why. I only implore you to waste as little time as possible talking about me and get your scumhunting efforts to the rest of the players. If you can manage to be objective without an actual flip of my role, I also strongly recommend against looking for scum via people's interactions with me -- because I'm not one of them. I'll be back tomorrow to make whatever dent in this game I can still make. Another dead mafia is a good source of information.

Sorry you're havin' a rough day, dude. Just FYI, again, whatever your alignment, I think you're the shiz (just don't ask me what shiz means, I think it means cool or somethin')

As I said earlier, the only possibility I see of you not being Mafia, is if a baddie team consisting of one or more of the following (MM, Epig, Motel Room) bandwagoned seaside only to see you lynched the following day.

Do you think that's possible?

Did you already respond to my questioning of Strawhenge as to why he referred to Mac as a "scum buddy" but didn't vote for him??

Also, yeah, Epignosis, I'm off work today and I plan to be here for the duration of the Night phase. Hopefully I'm not knocked out Gaaah!!

[Epignosis]

If you took yourself out of the equation, are you able to admit that it looks sketchy?

Yep. This is probably the most suspicious I'll ever be as a townie, I'd lynch me too. Y'all can scoff at that, I don't much care. I sort of regret that I survived Day 7, that really played right into the mafia team's hands. Maybe the BR modkill gives us the leeway in the numbers to remedy that blunder today, though 4 mafia alive is still quite daunting (unless Epi is right about HamburgerBoy or there is a surprise mafioso among the other corpses).

I'll address your points in a more substantial manner in due time, Matt. Tonight I am taking a break from this game. Work was a miserable headache, and the climate of this game re: me right now is the opposite of good medicine.

Those who remain suspicious of me: cool, fine. Everyone already knows why. I only implore you to waste as little time as possible talking about me and get your scumhunting efforts to the rest of the players. If you can manage to be objective without an actual flip of my role, I also strongly recommend against looking for scum via people's interactions with me -- because I'm not one of them. I'll be back tomorrow to make whatever dent in this game I can still make. Another dead mafia is a good source of information.

Sorry you're havin' a rough day, dude. Just FYI, again, whatever your alignment, I think you're the shiz (just don't ask me what shiz means, I think it means cool or somethin')

As I said earlier, the only possibility I see of you not being Mafia, is if a baddie team consisting of one or more of the following (MM, Epig, Motel Room) bandwagoned seaside only to see you lynched the following day.

Do you think that's possible?

Did you already respond to my questioning of Strawhenge as to why he referred to Mac as a "scum buddy" but didn't vote for him??

Also, yeah, Epignosis, I'm off work today and I plan to be here for the duration of the Night phase. Hopefully I'm not knocked out Gaaah!!

It was impossible for me to bandwagon seaside.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Sorry you're havin' a rough day, dude. Just FYI, again, whatever your alignment, I think you're the shiz (just don't ask me what shiz means, I think it means cool or somethin')

As I said earlier, the only possibility I see of you not being Mafia, is if a baddie team consisting of one or more of the following (MM, Epig, Motel Room) bandwagoned seaside only to see you lynched the following day.

Do you think that's possible?

Did you already respond to my questioning of Strawhenge as to why he referred to Mac as a "scum buddy" but didn't vote for him??

Also, yeah, Epignosis, I'm off work today and I plan to be here for the duration of the Night phase. Hopefully I'm not knocked out Gaaah!!

I'll give ya one more post.

Appreciate that a great deal, thank you very much. The same to you -- you clearly play the game passionately and I respect that no matter what your alignment.

I definitely think it's possible. I suggested earlier that people taking my side were at least a little suspicious for doing so. I know how valuable I am to them right now (for all the wrong reasons), and I am sure they know it too. CFDing the lynch to a townie is the perfect scenario for them -- everyone is convinced I was saved and I'll get lynched anyway. Double-whammy, two for one special. I'm considering the possibility that motel room has been deliberately linking himself to me, your observations are all hard to ignore. Epi as mafia would be an incredible distancing effort, but I've seen incredible distancing efforts of that caliber before so it shouldn't be off the table. MM plays the game in a way that is easy to work cross-alignment (meta-free), so I wouldn't count him out either. I did think he looked solid in the Mac analysis, if my analyses are still to be trusted at all for accuracy.

It's also possible you're the bad guy and you're turning the two-for-one special into a three-for-one (if motel room is town).

See y'all tomorrow.

[motel room]

Gaw damn Matt F is hungry.

Yeah feels that way, which is why I'm not flipping it on him for tunnelling. I think he thinks he's doing right.

If you took yourself out of the equation, are you able to admit that it looks sketchy?

Yes on defending mac and my town-flipped votes, No on how hard I defended mac or my pressuring of Strawhenge. I dunno its hard to be unbiased.

Also, I am still fixated on Strawhenge referring to Mac as a "scum buddy" but not voting for him during Day 6. Since Strawhenge refused to vote for Mac, and referred to him as your and 3J's "scum buddy" before his role was revealed, do you expect Strawhenge to be looking at you or 3J today?

I don't know what to expect from him. But I'm interested seeing as he popped in, said "oh my god what happened" and left. I would very much like to know what he thinks of what happened.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Oh yeah, the Strawhenge thing: I think his behavior during that exchange was objectively suspicious while seeming emotionally genuine. I favor the latter for now.

Okay now bye, I swear.

[Epignosis]

I need five for Dune Mafia. My first closed setup. I'd like to begin this weekend.

[Matt]

It was impossible for me to bandwagon seaside.

Oh, because you were the first to vote for him? Not understanding I guess. In that case, you started the bandwagon on seaside?

I remember you wanting to lynch 3J, and I believe you were also after Black Rock, but then suddenly you go with seaside, and a bunch of people follow.

If you had nothing to do with the "bandwagon" on seaside, who do you suspect is bad out of the seaside voters (if any) ?

Linki - Epignosis, I'm there for ya dude. I wanted to sign up already, but I promised myself only one game at a time, then broke that promise by signing up for LC's game, and now...

Whatevs, my dad loved the Dune series (even read all the books written by the original author's son, I think?) so I'll play.

[Epignosis]

It was impossible for me to bandwagon seaside.

Oh, because you were the first to vote for him? Not understanding I guess. In that case, you started the bandwagon on seaside?

I remember you wanting to lynch 3J, and I believe you were also after Black Rock, but then suddenly you go with seaside, and a bunch of people follow.

If you had nothing to do with the "bandwagon" on seaside, who do you suspect is bad out of the seaside voters (if any) ?

Linki - Epignosis, I'm there for ya dude. I wanted to sign up already, but I promised myself only one game at a time, then broke that promise by signing up for LC's game, and now...

Whatevs, my dad loved the Dune series (even read all the books written by the original author's son, I think?) so I'll play.

I didn't say I had nothing to do with the bandwagon on seaside. I encouraged it. Promoted it. Tried to make it happen. Succeeded. But I didn't bandwagon. I drove the train.

Supper, finally. I'll be back after that to address other items. Unless I'm a goner.

Swell!

[Matt]

Thanks, J. Whenever you get back, assuming these were the only five lynch candidates tomorrow, who would you pick? (or if you're strongly against all of them, let me know)

motel room
Metal Marsh
Epignosis
TheFloyd
Strawhenge

It's also possible you're the bad guy and you're turning the two-for-one special into a three-for-one (if motel room is town).

Unfortunately, my total whack out theories prevent my really good theories from getting any traction, cuz I guess peeps think I'm crazy haha. Remember, it wasn't until Ricochet and others started looking at Mac differently before he was lynched.

However, I will point out, earlier in the game I suspected Mac of being an LC teamie for their discussion on the Nothing but Flowers role, I even asked Mac if I was wrong and he simply said "Yes" (which I wasn't)

and

In an ISO of Black Rock, I suspected her and Long Con of being teamies because of her "I believe BC was in the lead" comment after I was curious who was in the lead, BC or LC, during the late Llama train Day 2.

So I get it right sometimes

[Epignosis]

I already mentioned 3J and Russ and my top suspects.

[Matt]

I already mentioned 3J and Russ and my top suspects.

Are you responding to me? My last post was directed to 3J.

Russ. This guy hasn't registered on my radar too much. I remember calling him anti-Mafia because he was basically the nail in the coffin against LC during day 2, and I speculated that LC's role was waaaaay too important for teamies to bus him.

I could be wrong, though, I often am!

[Epignosis]

I already mentioned 3J and Russ and my top suspects.

Are you responding to me? My last post was directed to 3J.

Russ. This guy hasn't registered on my radar too much. I remember calling him anti-Mafia because he was basically the nail in the coffin against LC during day 2, and I speculated that LC's role was waaaaay too important for teamies to bus him.

I could be wrong, though, I often am!

My opinion on Russ is that he latched onto FZ. and k4j's vendetta against me with a misrepresentation. His last-minute voting doesn't endear me either.

[Tangrowth]

Night 7 has ended.

Post and PMs coming ASAP.

[Tangrowth]

Night 7: Mr. ?????

Night 7 has ended.

????? has survived a kill attempt by Life During Wartime AND a kill attempt by Psycho Killer.

It is now Day 8. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.

[Epignosis]

My my my.

What a beautifully unproductive evening.

[Matt]

Wow the SK and the Mafia tried to kill the same person?

I see MacD is in the thread, seeing his team fail yet another NK attempt.