Mafia: A World Reborn Game Thread - Game Over

#1601

Tranq wrote:Are the votes changeable?

Votes are changeable in the poll.

Tranq

#1602

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Matt F wrote:What happened there Bullz?

RIP Turnip.

Welcome Dr. Wilgy. Speaking of doctors...

Metalmarsh - Did you kill Turnip Head?
No I didn't.

Why would you ask?

I was curious.

#1603

RIP Turnip

#1604

RIH Turnip

Haaaaaaa

Ha.

#1605

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Tranq wrote:Are the votes changeable?
Votes are changeable in the poll.

Tranq

Thanks for confirming

#1606

Long Con wrote:
The creature snorted, glaring at Bullzeye with pulsing red and yellow eyes. It took one more big bite of Bullzeye before launching itself once again into the night sky.

Now that's just rude. I mean biting people, really? Who does that. Mean baddies! Unfortunately for you I survived to keep hunting you all down.

Matt F wrote:What happened there Bullz?

What are you asking here Matt? I don't know what happened. I was just minding my own business when some big ugly douche dropped out of the sky and tried to eat me!

#1607

Bye, TH. That was rather gory. I know LC writes more for flavor, but the way that is written re Bullz death, is (I don't want to say "interesting", but it IS interesting, lol~ oh what the hell, INTERESTING.

I think I need to reread the roles. And beef up my vocabulary.

And if we are going to have two lynches having it set up this way is better. I did not vote for two lynches as having all the simultaneous discussion of two votes made it harder to follow the thread for me. I am OK with 2 lynches if it is more linear.

#1608

It's unfortunate that Baddie McBadinstien is a doctor. Making us loom bad!!

#1609

DrWilgy wrote:It's unfortunate that Baddie McBadinstien is a doctor. Making us loom bad!!

Fortunately you still have The Doctor to even out the score and make you all look good! Plus I thought you were most definitely not a doctor anyway?

#1610

I have to leave shortly, I'll be on trains and in cars most of today but will possibly check in later if time permits. Don't expect to see me much, if at all, until Sunday evening. Going to *Vote Sig* at least for the time being as he continues to be my top suspect. If I do get the chance to check in over the weekend, and feel like someone else deserves my vote at the time, then I may change it.

#1611

Voting Floyd again for the time being. I didn't get around to looking at the nutella case the other day. The posts about juliets are also something i want to take a better look at.

#1612

@nutella any idea why you didn't get lynched yesterday?

@Luke what do you think about the game so far who do you plan to lynch?

#1613

Placeholder vote on Bass. Simply because I don't know the other cases yet.

Epi, any pings/cases on those who voted for non-changeable vote option?

#1614

Anyone save the Night 3 poll? It's not posted yet.

#1615

RIPIYWG Turnip Head. I'm sorry you as a player are out so soon. I'll see you back in the Fantasy thread.

#1616

Draconus wrote:Placeholder vote on Bass. Simply because I don't know the other cases yet.

Epi, any pings/cases on those who voted for non-changeable vote option?

What is the case on Bass?

Know the reason I didn't vote for a double lynch was simply, it increases the chances that I could get lynched.

So tonight Bull's was a target of an attempted Nk by the Circle. I find it interesting both mafia groups have killed off or tried to kill major supporters of my lynch. Any thoughts on this because outside of pursuing me Bulls hasn't gone after many people.

Th was killed by Dr Von, not much to go on by that but I've got the feeling Dr Von is an independent.

Right know placing a vote for Luke I'd like him to answer my questions.

#1617

Matt F wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Matt F wrote:What happened there Bullz?

RIP Turnip.

Welcome Dr. Wilgy. Speaking of doctors...

Metalmarsh - Did you kill Turnip Head?
No I didn't.

Why would you ask?
I was curious.

What did you learn from this discussion?

#1618

Oops, wrong Dutch. I apologize.

Typhoony

#1619

Not much.

#1620

sig wrote:
Draconus wrote:Placeholder vote on Bass. Simply because I don't know the other cases yet.

Epi, any pings/cases on those who voted for non-changeable vote option?
What is the case on Bass?

Know the reason I didn't vote for a double lynch was simply, it increases the chances that I could get lynched.

Pretty much mine and Epi's interactions with him recently. I haven't had that much time to catch up, so I am unsure of anything brought up about him prior to Night 3.
Thank you for your explanation. That seems fair. Can I get your viewpoint on why people want you lynched?

#1621

Draconus wrote:
sig wrote:
Draconus wrote:Placeholder vote on Bass. Simply because I don't know the other cases yet.

Epi, any pings/cases on those who voted for non-changeable vote option?
What is the case on Bass?

Know the reason I didn't vote for a double lynch was simply, it increases the chances that I could get lynched.
Pretty much mine and Epi's interactions with him recently. I haven't had that much time to catch up, so I am unsure of anything brought up about him prior to Night 3.
Thank you for your explanation. That seems fair. Can I get your viewpoint on why people want you lynched?

Oh because I didn't agree with you guys lol.

#1622

Draconus wrote:
sig wrote:
Draconus wrote:Placeholder vote on Bass. Simply because I don't know the other cases yet.

Epi, any pings/cases on those who voted for non-changeable vote option?
What is the case on Bass?

Know the reason I didn't vote for a double lynch was simply, it increases the chances that I could get lynched.
Pretty much mine and Epi's interactions with him recently. I haven't had that much time to catch up, so I am unsure of anything brought up about him prior to Night 3.
Thank you for your explanation. That seems fair. Can I get your viewpoint on why people want you lynched?

For Bass he only recently subbed in so not much information based around voting, posts etc

The reason people have attempted to lynch me is because when Timmer was NK night 1, I said what the mafia was doing (killing low posters) this lead some people to claim I made a scum slip of my teams strategy.
When I defended myself they said I was over reacting and my argument was suspicious.
I myself say it wasn't a scum slip and just the way I worded it. I also believe there is at least one scum maybe two on my wagon and pushing it. I think the other scum team also agrees with me and I say this since yesterday Zebra was killed and today the other team attempted to kill Bull's.
I'm still fairly confident there is one or two scum on my wagon, my personal thoughts is that Bull's is scum many don't agree so I could be wrong. If not Bulls it's very likely one of the others on my day 2 and maybe day 3 wagon is scum.
I'll look into that more myself later.

#1623

Not TH ;( ;( ;(

I get the bass suspicion, since it does seem like he was advocating an option other then the most civvie friendly one, but I'm not sure yet if it is enough for me to vote for someone who just replaced in.
I need to reread a couple things, but if SVS hasn't already I'd be interested in her opinion on him.

#1624

Bass_the_Clever wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:When playing as mafia the whole idea behind using a kill is to set a civvie up for the next Lynch.
So...your argument against lynching two people is that...Mafia will kill to set up two people? How do they manage that?

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Non changeable votes makes people use there vote and place it somewhere it's going to stick and doesn't allow people to jump all or the place.
Changeable votes benefit civilians more than Mafia.

Tell me, anyone: When you are bad, do you feel less or more comfortable going into a Day phase knowing that the tide can turn against you at the eleventh hour?

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Do you have two people you really think that are mafia ? With out a question of a doubt?
Without a question of doubt?

Erm...no.

If I did, this game would cease to offer any entertainment value whatsoever. I'd rather play pick up sticks if no element of doubt were involved.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Can you honestly say that to Lynches can't benefit the mafia too?
That's a risk you take when you sign up for Mafia in the first place. There are, at most, eight Mafia loose. If this is seriously your viewpoint, then you are arguing that we shouldn't have any lynches, because lynches can hurt civilians.

My argument is that a lynch is the civilians' primary weapon. It stands to reason, therefore, that two lynches for the price of one benefit civilians.

Yes, those lynches have to be right, but that fact doesn't change whether you have one lynch or fifteen- it's the object of the game.
I agree that lynches are civvies primary weapon on because it gives civvies the most important thing in a mafia game, information. Now the odds are not in favor of lynching to mafia with where the numbers stand, hell that aren't even that great to Lynch one mafia. That's why I don't like the double Lynch. I think we would have got more information from just a single Lynch but it's a dead point now.

Can you explain how one lynch would give more information?

#1625

sig wrote:
Draconus wrote:
sig wrote:
Draconus wrote:Placeholder vote on Bass. Simply because I don't know the other cases yet.

Epi, any pings/cases on those who voted for non-changeable vote option?
What is the case on Bass?

Know the reason I didn't vote for a double lynch was simply, it increases the chances that I could get lynched.
Pretty much mine and Epi's interactions with him recently. I haven't had that much time to catch up, so I am unsure of anything brought up about him prior to Night 3.
Thank you for your explanation. That seems fair. Can I get your viewpoint on why people want you lynched?
For Bass he only recently subbed in so not much information based around voting, posts etc

The reason people have attempted to lynch me is because when Timmer was NK night 1, I said what the mafia was doing (killing low posters) this lead some people to claim I made a scum slip of my teams strategy.
When I defended myself they said I was over reacting and my argument was suspicious.
I myself say it wasn't a scum slip and just the way I worded it. I also believe there is at least one scum maybe two on my wagon and pushing it. I think the other scum team also agrees with me and I say this since yesterday Zebra was killed and today the other team attempted to kill Bull's.
I'm still fairly confident there is one or two scum on my wagon, my personal thoughts is that Bull's is scum many don't agree so I could be wrong. If not Bulls it's very likely one of the others on my day 2 and maybe day 3 wagon is scum.
I'll look into that more myself later.

I don't believe your "killing low posters" comment was any sort of slip. But "the other scum team also agrees with me."

Thank you for your viewpoint. Sorry to do this to you. Switching my vote to Sig. Still could be temporary. I wish I had a Day 3 poll to go off of. I know you didn't get the most votes on D3 and I'd like to know why.

Linki Splints: I was curious about that, too

#1626

sig wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Excuse me sigtown. Who would you vote for if you were scum, town or indy? Name three.
scum BUGLABUSH/Luke
town Bulls/Elohcin
indy I'd go with a bandwagon and flow with it.

sig wrote:Right know placing a vote for Luke I'd like him to answer my questions.

Eh?

#1627

Bullzeye wrote:
Long Con wrote:
The creature snorted, glaring at Bullzeye with pulsing red and yellow eyes. It took one more big bite of Bullzeye before launching itself once again into the night sky.
Now that's just rude. I mean biting people, really? Who does that. Mean baddies! Unfortunately for you I survived to keep hunting you all down.

Matt F wrote:What happened there Bullz?
What are you asking here Matt? I don't know what happened. I was just minding my own business when some big ugly douche dropped out of the sky and tried to eat me!

#1628

@Drac look at both kills,Team 2 killed zebra Team 1 tried to kill Bulls obviously the scum agrees with me that one or the other is scum. Or the scum is trying to frame me but honestly that seems like alot of work going after a mediocre player. Why did what I say seem strange? The main reason I could see the mafia teams trying to NK my accusers is because they think one is on the other mafia team. It makes no sense in a set up sort of way since both teams have tried to do this so it is the logical conclusion.

@Tranq at that time I'd have bussed them, know I'm frustrated he hasn't answered any questions, I most likely won't end the day with a vote on him and am not trying to start a bandwagon either this is simply a pressure vote. Though I'll most likely switch either to save myself or pursue a better target.

#1629

I forgot.

RIP TH.

RIP TH.

#1630

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#1633

sig wrote:
Draconus wrote:
sig wrote:
Draconus wrote:Placeholder vote on Bass. Simply because I don't know the other cases yet.

Epi, any pings/cases on those who voted for non-changeable vote option?
What is the case on Bass?

Know the reason I didn't vote for a double lynch was simply, it increases the chances that I could get lynched.
Pretty much mine and Epi's interactions with him recently. I haven't had that much time to catch up, so I am unsure of anything brought up about him prior to Night 3.
Thank you for your explanation. That seems fair. Can I get your viewpoint on why people want you lynched?
For Bass he only recently subbed in so not much information based around voting, posts etc

The reason people have attempted to lynch me is because when Timmer was NK night 1, I said what the mafia was doing (killing low posters) this lead some people to claim I made a scum slip of my teams strategy.
When I defended myself they said I was over reacting and my argument was suspicious.
I myself say it wasn't a scum slip and just the way I worded it. I also believe there is at least one scum maybe two on my wagon and pushing it. I think the other scum team also agrees with me and I say this since yesterday Zebra was killed and today the other team attempted to kill Bull's.
I'm still fairly confident there is one or two scum on my wagon, my personal thoughts is that Bull's is scum many don't agree so I could be wrong. If not Bulls it's very likely one of the others on my day 2 and maybe day 3 wagon is scum.
I'll look into that more myself later.

I hope you're not including me as a bandwagon voter, seeing as I've now voted you three days in a row.

*Votes Sig*

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1634

sig wrote:@nutella any idea why you didn't get lynched yesterday?

As I said I figured Tranq had been right and there was only ever going to be one lynch between the two groups. It's certainly not what I expected to happen but it's the most reasonable explanation.

I don't really know who my top suspects are right now. Bass has said some odd things, I might look into him. I'm also still waiting to see any content from Luke.

#1635

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Oops, wrong Dutch. I apologize.

Typhoony

Metalmarsh, what are your reasons for voting Typhoony?

#1636

sig wrote:@Drac look at both kills,Team 2 killed zebra Team 1 tried to kill Bulls obviously the scum agrees with me that one or the other is scum. Or the scum is trying to frame me but honestly that seems like alot of work going after a mediocre player. Why did what I say seem strange? The main reason I could see the mafia teams trying to NK my accusers is because they think one is on the other mafia team. It makes no sense in a set up sort of way since both teams have tried to do this so it is the logical conclusion.

It was your wording. You said "the other scum team agrees with me" without referencing the first scum team. It makes it sound as if you are saying "my team thinks this is a good place to look for such and such. It looks like the other team agrees with us, too." Could have been a typo/miscommunication, but it looked like a slip to me. I get what you are trying to say, though. I'm going to think on this more.

DF! Why did you start voting for Sig in the first place? Is that why you are still voting for him or do you have new reasons?

#1637

No time to chat today. Voting Luke for being (essentially) a no-show. Hopefully will be back to chat before lunch 2 tomorrow

#1638

Putting my vote on luke too. For one, to once again try to save sig, the person who continues to be suspected based on a case he is on a team that he is not on. For second, because I do think luke is a good use of a lynch on a day we have two.

#1639

Golden wrote:Putting my vote on luke too. For one, to once again try to save sig, the person who continues to be suspected based on a case he is on a team that he is not on. For second, because I do think luke is a good use of a lynch on a day we have two.

Can you elaborate please?

I can be willing to move my vote to Luke until I here more about Sig. Just to be fair.

#1640

Draconus wrote:
Golden wrote:Putting my vote on luke too. For one, to once again try to save sig, the person who continues to be suspected based on a case he is on a team that he is not on. For second, because I do think luke is a good use of a lynch on a day we have two.
Can you elaborate please?

I can be willing to move my vote to Luke until I here more about Sig. Just to be fair.

Oh, sorry, I know you've subbed in since the sig wars, but I don't believe sig was responsible for killing timmer on day one, but the case on sig begins with and is based around the idea that sig knew what was going on in the minds of the mafia who killed timmer.

Also, kind of convenient (but certainly possible) that that very same team tried to kill bullz last night, the person who has been fighting hardest to lynch sig. I'd say that was an intentional set up.

I don't have any specific reason to suspect luke, though, other than his relative absence makes me feel ok with voting there.

#1641

Thank you for elaborating, Golden. I haven't had time to go back and do some reading yet. I will move my vote to Luke for now. Any reason to suspect that Luke is a civ? It seems like it would be a waste to use one of these lynches on an inactive civ. Do you have any suspects, Golden?

#1642

I could move my Floyd vote to Luke.

Not alot to go on, but here's what i get out of his posts. This is Luke's first game. He has asked 3 questions so far:

1.

Luke11646 wrote:Metalmarsh, why did you vote for epi

2.

Luke11646 wrote:
Sorsha wrote:I also had some questions for Luke that he didn't answer while he was here.

I'm going to put my vote on Luke for now.
What questions.

3.

Luke11646 wrote:
Typhoony wrote:I voted nutella and luke for now, in case I fall asleep.
Why me?

1. A quick question posted 3 minutes after HamburgerBoy asked Luke if he had any thoughts: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 38#p191337
2. and 3. are the same. Both Sorsha and Typhoony had asked Luke questions which he seemed to have missed. This shows Luke isn't paying alot of attention and isn't reading every post.

When it's time to vote, Luke references other players' points which indicates he does read the thread, but he never questions the players he votes for:

Luke11646 wrote:I'm voting sig because bull and zebra have made some good points on him and he keeps putting the blame on other people, which looks suspicious.

Luke11646 wrote:I have to go and won't be back before the vote finishes so I'm going to vote for Nutella and Bugla

And he plays the "i'm new" card here:

Luke11646 wrote:I asked MM because I was curious why but then I got distracted with other things and forgot about it, I'm new and I don't have very much to contribute at the moment, sorry for not answering your questions sooner.

#1643

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Oops, wrong Dutch. I apologize.

Typhoony

No u.

I'm much more likely to vote Luke over sig if it comes down to it.

Did the nutella suspicion die down because people saw a connection between her and Bubbles?

#1644

Yeeeeaaah. I'm okay with my vote at it's current location. I was hoping for something better, but, we do have 2 lynches.

#1645

Typhoony wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Oops, wrong Dutch. I apologize.

Typhoony
No u.

I'm much more likely to vote Luke over sig if it comes down to it.

Did the nutella suspicion die down because people saw a connection between her and Bubbles?

My own personal nutella suspicion has died down a little for that reason, but I still am not sure how I feel about her overall.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1646

About 5 hours until the first lynch. Gonna go ahead and vote for Luke. I think he's really hiding behind the low posting/noob card.

#1647

I've been lazy in this game recently, I apologize. My last known suspects were nutella and Sorsha. To answer you Typh, my suspicion of nutella had nothing to do with Bubbles. Also, Metalmarsh intrigues me. But nothing thread based, so won't go that way today.

UMMMMM

nutella. After today, I'll look more into peeps.

#1648

I'm busy with some family stuff and will have spotty activity over the weekend, so to cast my first vote before the deadline in a few hours, I think Luke is as good a target as any right now.

#1649

Canucklehead wrote:No time to chat today. Voting Luke for being (essentially) a no-show. Hopefully will be back to chat before lunch 2 tomorrow

I just looked, and Luke actually has more posts than you do

I can see the reason Luke is taking votes~ he is really blendy which catches my eye more than the post count, and might vote for him myself, although I still suspect Nutella for reasons unassociated with Bubbles. And this post has gotten my attention on Canuck, so i am going to reread her, should not take long. That has to be one of the most bandwaggony votes i can recall seeing in some time.

#1650

LC, you repeated yourself in the poll section again.

Is repetition a thing with the host too?

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Speed Games	Civilian: Fiddler on the Roof Mafia:
Heists	Civilian: MVP: RED vs BLUE
Burglaries	Independent: The Theme Is Literally a Burglary
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