Tree Mafia [GAME OVER]

#301

Diiny, could you also share all your thoughts about me? Ty bae <3

#302

Enrique wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Hmm... Do baddies know thier team pre BTSC?
From my experience in Pet Sounds, yes.

hi motel room

#303

#304

FZ. wrote:I have no idea what the hell Diiny wants from zebra. At some point, I lost interest in that conversation. I'm not sure I find Diiny suspicious for that, but this whole Wilgy Diiny craziness is interesting.

Can I clear this up because apparently what I was saying wasn't getting through to anyone let alone zebra. This might've been late night diin in action, but my points should still stand out.

I was mindlessly prodding zebra. I was first by saying she was attempting to prove her own civniness right off the bat with a pointless vanilla civ claim and a post about irrelevant game mechanics. The reasoning she gave (I thought for that specific post), however, didn't seem right to me; she said she was trying to raise the temperature. I got real pinged by that response because talking about what paradigm we're in really, really doesn't turn the temperature up. I think the discussion descended into confusion at that point.

I genuinely don't see what problem ANYONE has with this, unless their problems are not with this and I'm missing something. But I want to get this sorted out now. Continuing FZ look

#305

Do you actually think Floyd is suspicious?

#306

me? I wish I didn't but yeah my gut will scream bad until he plays mafia

#307

Floyd in this game, for the record.

#308

Did you see floyd last game? Identical, nay, even less content per game hour. Also note how he completely doesn't actually engage with my post and omgusses me hard

#309

I wouldn't call it an OMGUS, honestly. I wouldn't vote for a player just because I thought they were being hypocritical either, but I can see why he did.

#310

Diiny wrote:Did you see floyd last game? Identical, nay, even less content per game hour. Also note how he completely doesn't actually engage with my post and omgusses me hard

I did. What's your point?

#311

It's clearly an omgus just without my vote on him. I pressure him, he calls me hypocritical (incorrectly) and leaves after, content with flinging his vote onto the only wagon quickly behind the first two votes.

Look at the actual posts, I make a fair analysis of the guy, and if that wasn't fair enough after his vote I explain my stance further. Why did you see why he voted for me? Because I was the wagon and he's looking for an easy place to drop dat vote? Because I totally agree

#312

So in Dune civ FZ did all that she seemingly could do find suspects to vote for rather than vote for the scum who were nearly just handed to us on a plate. Not what I'm seeing here.

Voting FZ

#313

MacDougall wrote:
FZ. wrote:
Enrique wrote:You really want the Doctor* out. You know, to paint a completely unnecessary target on his back before he has any useful info.

Diiny had 3 votes on him before Wilgy conveniently "outed" him. There was never talk of anyone else. It was always Diiny.
How the hell will I out the doctor? Are the baddies psychic? The doctor doesn't have to do anything but save. No need to talk in the thread. I am seriously not getting you.

And for some reason, I'm confused by the resemblance between Sorsha's and your avi

linki: I guess Mac. I think MP would try harder as a baddie (but those are my expectations of him).
Loooooooool

Why the laffs though, Mac

#314

Diiny wrote:It's clearly an omgus just without my vote on him. I pressure him, he calls me hypocritical (incorrectly) and leaves after, content with flinging his vote onto the only wagon quickly behind the first two votes.

Look at the actual posts, I make a fair analysis of the guy, and if that wasn't fair enough after his vote I explain my stance further. Why did you see why he voted for me? Because I was the wagon and he's looking for an easy place to drop dat vote? Because I totally agree

You really think you were a wagon at that point? Wow.

#315

So I'm hitting 13 hours now that I've been working straight, and my stress levels are unreal (due to crunch of last minute stuff, Finals, trying to get an independent study class together, and frustration with one of my professors). I can't remember the last time I felt this overloaded (probably over the summer).

I'll see what I can do tomorrow, since I can't see myself quitting work tonight until I go to bed. Unfortunately my desire to play this game over Thanksgiving is being combated by sudden poor timing (and somewhat poor time management over Thanksgiving break) due to an incredibly stressful week or so ahead of me.

#316

Enrique wrote:
Diiny wrote:Did you see floyd last game? Identical, nay, even less content per game hour. Also note how he completely doesn't actually engage with my post and omgusses me hard
I did. What's your point?

Floyd was scum last game. He is behaving exactly as he did last game. He's doing scummy things.

Should I tell my gut to stop screaming scum for no particular reason? guy hasn't made me feel good about him even after I gave him an opportunity, just used it as a reason to vote on the biggest wagon and run.

#317

MovingPictures07 wrote:So I'm hitting 13 hours now that I've been working straight, and my stress levels are unreal (due to crunch of last minute stuff, Finals, trying to get an independent study class together, and frustration with one of my professors). I can't remember the last time I felt this overloaded (probably over the summer).

I'll see what I can do tomorrow, since I can't see myself quitting work tonight until I go to bed. Unfortunately my desire to play this game over Thanksgiving is being combated by sudden poor timing (and somewhat poor time management over Thanksgiving break) due to an incredibly stressful week or so ahead of me.

Do what you gotta do, mate. I don't have much time for this game either. Maybe it's for the best that this game be allowed to flourish without eight million MP/JJJ posts though, eh?

#318

a2thezebra wrote:
Diiny wrote:It's clearly an omgus just without my vote on him. I pressure him, he calls me hypocritical (incorrectly) and leaves after, content with flinging his vote onto the only wagon quickly behind the first two votes.

Look at the actual posts, I make a fair analysis of the guy, and if that wasn't fair enough after his vote I explain my stance further. Why did you see why he voted for me? Because I was the wagon and he's looking for an easy place to drop dat vote? Because I totally agree
You really think you were a wagon at that point? Wow.

How was I not? Get out of here. I really hoping you're prodding right now or something. He dumped his vote quickly after the first two votes on the only person with votes for a shitty non-reason and you're telling me it's not bad because you don't want to call it a wagon?

linki about J being scum because he's not posting funny joke etc

#319

Diiny wrote:
Enrique wrote:
Diiny wrote:Did you see floyd last game? Identical, nay, even less content per game hour. Also note how he completely doesn't actually engage with my post and omgusses me hard
I did. What's your point?
Floyd was scum last game. He is behaving exactly as he did last game. He's doing scummy things.

Should I tell my gut to stop screaming scum for no particular reason? guy hasn't made me feel good about him even after I gave him an opportunity, just used it as a reason to vote on the biggest wagon and run.

Last game? He was good on Pet Sounds, replaced on Star Wars. Played the same both times (which is to say he's barely here).

You should tell your gut to calm down a bit probably.

#320

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
FZ. wrote:
Enrique wrote:You really want the Doctor* out. You know, to paint a completely unnecessary target on his back before he has any useful info.

Diiny had 3 votes on him before Wilgy conveniently "outed" him. There was never talk of anyone else. It was always Diiny.
How the hell will I out the doctor? Are the baddies psychic? The doctor doesn't have to do anything but save. No need to talk in the thread. I am seriously not getting you.

And for some reason, I'm confused by the resemblance between Sorsha's and your avi

linki: I guess Mac. I think MP would try harder as a baddie (but those are my expectations of him).
Loooooooool
Why the laffs though, Mac

Why do you think?

#321

I don't think it's a good idea to metagame the Floyd read when he has three whole posts. Was he any more involved than this in his town effort(s)? Diiny is referring to Talking Heads when Floyd was mostly quiet and detached as a mafioso, but that was also his very first game.

#322

MacDougall wrote:Why do you think?

I have an answer, but I'd really prefer to give me yours first. It might influence my read more than the average post.

#323

Nope, he was not.

#324

Diiny wrote:linki about J being scum because he's not posting funny joke etc

I don't get it.

#325

My bad, didn't realise he played in other games. I'm talking about RYM 90. the talking heads game. He only had a few posts there, you should read them and see how remarkably similar his game is now.

He may have been good on those games. In fact I'd feel worse about him if he was.

linki J: I'd really like to do more than metagame read him but there's literally nothing else to work with. He's a bad read whether I/you like it or not. I can't tell my gut he's not bad without feeding him content. he howls; starving.

linki J again you said you weren't posting as much ergo you're scum

#326

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Why do you think?
I have an answer, but I'd really prefer to give me yours first. It might influence my read more than the average post.

Lol

#327

MacDougall wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Why do you think?
I have an answer, but I'd really prefer to give me yours first. It might influence my read more than the average post.
Lol

Fine. I was basically opening the door to town read you but if you don't want this cred then I don't have to give it to you.

#328

Diiny wrote:My bad, didn't realise he played in other games. I'm talking about RYM 90. the talking heads game. He only had a few posts there, you should read them and see how remarkably similar his game is now.

He may have been good on those games. In fact I'd feel worse about him if he was.

Why?

#329

It shows he has potential to play differently; to play TOWN FLOYD. I'm not just seeing the same floyd in this game and 90 because that's floyd, it'd be because that's SCUM FLOYD.

#330

...

I think I've made my point with the FZ vote. Back to Diiny.

#331

Diiny wrote:It shows he has potential to play differently; to play TOWN FLOYD. I'm not just seeing the same floyd in this game and 90 because that's floyd, it'd be because that's SCUM FLOYD.

That's my confusion. Enrique has suggested Town Floyd was also generally uninvolved and inactive. If that's accurate what would it mean to you?

#332

Pet Sounds Floyd posts

He got decently involved and even put up a rainbow, but on Day 1 he was pretty quiet.

#333

Diinis plz address me

Plz

Plz Dennis

#334

a2thezebra wrote:...

I think I've made my point with the FZ vote. Back to Diiny.

Did you get the results you wanted? What do you think of Room's and Sorsha's votes?

#335

firmly on motel. Sorsha's cool.

#336

DrWilgy wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:...

I think I've made my point with the FZ vote. Back to Diiny.
Did you get the results you wanted? What do you think of Room's and Sorsha's votes?

Room I'm undecided on, and I'm slightly pinged by Sorsha's.

#337

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Why do you think?
I have an answer, but I'd really prefer to give me yours first. It might influence my read more than the average post.
Lol
Fine. I was basically opening the door to town read you but if you don't want this cred then I don't have to give it to you.

Lol you were trying to look for a reason to town read me? To what end?

I an laughing at FZ's comment on me being scum with no reason, no history of it being so, and no subsequent attempt to chase it up as a legit case despite me having the vote of one JaggedJimmySupatown on me which, if I were a civ with some negative attention on me with a scum read on a particular person, would lend me serious confidence that me making a case on that person could possibly get them lynched.

Instead FZ is doing what FZ is doing. Which is lolular.

#338

I don't have time to be analytic, but here's a rainbow based on my gut right now:

a2thezebra
DrWilgy
MovingPictures07

Sorsha
TheFloyd73
DFaraday
motel room
Enrique
MacDougall

Diiny
Epignosis
FZ

The names aren't in any order, just the colors.

#339

FZ's grappling with Wilgy makes sense to me, it's a confusing situation, and FZ strikes me as someone wanting to get to the bottom of it quick. What gives me more pause is her stance on me which isn't very solid. I'd be glad to see someone say I wasn't bad normally, but she seemed to want to stay out of the entire conflict, possibly because she knows I'll flip town if I die but doesn't want the hassle of defending someone a lot of people think is bad. She has some pretty brutal disses in her post history.

Audio Version:

link: fug

#340

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Diiny wrote:It shows he has potential to play differently; to play TOWN FLOYD. I'm not just seeing the same floyd in this game and 90 because that's floyd, it'd be because that's SCUM FLOYD.
That's my confusion. Enrique has suggested Town Floyd was also generally uninvolved and inactive. If that's accurate what would it mean to you?

Less scummy read on floyd, naturally.

#341

My issue is, if scum was handed to us on a plate in the form of Diiny as Sorsha said was the case, how come she never voted for Diiny? It might help if she implied that it was a pressure vote, but it came off as fairly permanent-sounding. Motel Room, similar to you Wilgy, is a big bowl of WIFOM for me at this point.

#342

Probably gonna switch to FZ for self preservation soon

#343

MacDougall wrote:Lol you were trying to look for a reason to town read me? To what end?

I an laughing at FZ's comment on me being scum with no reason, no history of it being so, and no subsequent attempt to chase it up as a legit case despite me having the vote of one JaggedJimmySupatown on me which, if I were a civ with some negative attention on me with a scum read on a particular person, would lend me serious confidence that me making a case on that person could possibly get them lynched.

Instead FZ is doing what FZ is doing. Which is lolular.

Noted. I thought you might be laughing because of FZ's assertion that "MP would try harder as mafia" before voting for you -- when that statement could easily be applied to you as well. If you had confirmed that interpretation for me then it'd have been a decent look. The answer you've given is something else, though not immediately suspicious. I don't think my vote really means anything to anyone at this point, not even to me.

#344

I agree with JJJ's rainbow reads list way more than I expected to based on a few of his earlier comments.

#345

I see two different ideas!! Enrique and Zebra, fight over Sorsha!!

Linki - Diiny plz

Linki linki - oh...

#346

Diiny wrote:FZ's grappling with Wilgy makes sense to me, it's a confusing situation, and FZ strikes me as someone wanting to get to the bottom of it quick. What gives me more pause is her stance on me which isn't very solid. I'd be glad to see someone say I wasn't bad normally, but she seemed to want to stay out of the entire conflict, possibly because she knows I'll flip town if I die but doesn't want the hassle of defending someone a lot of people think is bad. She has some pretty brutal disses in her post history.

Audio Version:

link: fug

How poetic that my biggest scum read understands the reasoning behind my second biggest scum read better than anyone else.

#347

a2thezebra wrote:My issue is, if scum was handed to us on a plate in the form of Diiny as Sorsha said was the case, how come she never voted for Diiny? It might help if she implied that it was a pressure vote, but it came off as fairly permanent-sounding. Motel Room, similar to you Wilgy, is a big bowl of WIFOM for me at this point.

You voted for FZ too. Regardless of vote, what Sorsha says is important, and I don't really have anything to disagree with.

#348

a2thezebra wrote:
Diiny wrote:FZ's grappling with Wilgy makes sense to me, it's a confusing situation, and FZ strikes me as someone wanting to get to the bottom of it quick. What gives me more pause is her stance on me which isn't very solid. I'd be glad to see someone say I wasn't bad normally, but she seemed to want to stay out of the entire conflict, possibly because she knows I'll flip town if I die but doesn't want the hassle of defending someone a lot of people think is bad. She has some pretty brutal disses in her post history.

Audio Version:

link: fug
How poetic that my biggest scum read understands the reasoning behind my second biggest scum read better than anyone else.

Pottery

#349

Enrique wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:My issue is, if scum was handed to us on a plate in the form of Diiny as Sorsha said was the case, how come she never voted for Diiny? It might help if she implied that it was a pressure vote, but it came off as fairly permanent-sounding. Motel Room, similar to you Wilgy, is a big bowl of WIFOM for me at this point.
You voted for FZ too. Regardless of vote, what Sorsha says is important, and I don't really have anything to disagree with.

True, but unlike Sorsha, I also was vocal about my suspicion (and vote) for Diiny, and still am. I also made it clear that my vote for FZ wasn't permanent when it was questioned by you earlier. I'm not going to push this since Sorsha hasn't responded to my ping and doesn't have anything else to lead me to conclude that she's bad, but I feel it's worth mentioning for now.

#350

a2thezebra wrote:My issue is, if scum was handed to us on a plate in the form of Diiny as Sorsha said was the case, how come she never voted for Diiny? It might help if she implied that it was a pressure vote, but it came off as fairly permanent-sounding. Motel Room, similar to you Wilgy, is a big bowl of WIFOM for me at this point.

You're interpreting my post wrong.

In Dune Mafia we had a couple of Mafia pointed out in the thread. I LDed MM and made it very clear in the thread that he was bad and that I would not vote for anyone else ever until he was dead.... Yet FZ still went off trying to piece together any case she could scratch up on anyone else. Bar also flat out named sig as scum, TH blatantly defended teammates, etc.

She (imo) looked past what was right in front of her face and tried to find something else. Which is okay, she ended up being civ and she was just being a thorough baddie hunter. That's not what I'm seeing here.

What say you?