STAR WARS Mafia [ENDGAME]

#2351

MacDougall wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Zebra. I'm at work. I've said enough about this for now. You and Golden are writing walls of text and you'll never stop posting if I don't. So just deal with it.

If Golden has somehow convinced anyone that I am a bad guy fair play to the guy, that's top level fake case building. I really doubt it though.

I'm not even remotely concerned that his point is going to reverberate with literally anybody not named Zebra. He's clearly scared shitless of my case though because the idea of him being lynched immediately appeared at the forefront of his posts. 1v1. Fine lynch me tomorrow. He's worried, because he's bad.
Walls of text? I've said a hell of a lot less than you have. You asked me to quote my ten posts to make me look worse when they really make you look worse. I don't think you've said enough about this at all, but do your thing.
Leave me a list of things to answer for when I return and I will.

Will do, I appreciate the thought.

#2352

Golden wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Zebra. I'm at work. I've said enough about this for now. You and Golden are writing walls of text and you'll never stop posting if I don't. So just deal with it.

If Golden has somehow convinced anyone that I am a bad guy fair play to the guy, that's top level fake case building. I really doubt it though.

I'm not even remotely concerned that his point is going to reverberate with literally anybody not named Zebra. He's clearly scared shitless of my case though because the idea of him being lynched immediately appeared at the forefront of his posts. 1v1. Fine lynch me tomorrow. He's worried, because he's bad.
If I'm clearly scared shitless, why is me saying 1v1 and I'm ok being lynched?

I'm not worried in the slightest. Literally no worry. In fact, I would say I'm much more scared by the prospect that this fight DOESN'T end with one of us being lynched tomorrow I'm a very busy guy, who feels completely at peace being lynched right now, and I don't want to have to put effort into this feud day after day.

But, if anyone wants to look at the underlined bits, you know... Mac's absolute security in the idea that I couldn't possibly believe in my case and that no-one else could either because he is so obviously civilian.

Anyone know what it is that Mac has done that makes his civilianity so obvious? Mac what about you, what can you point to that makes it so obvious that you are a civilian that no-one could possibly believe you are bad, it's just so impossible that you are bad. But me, the person who actually caught 2 baddies? 99% chance I'm their teammate.

Calling for 1v1 and saying you're okay with being lynched isn't indicative of that being true. It's the opposite. You are exactly worried about that and are trying to make us feel like you aren't. Me being lynched over your case isn't even a consideration to me because it's hogwash.

Point at what makes me civ? I've got no more or less evidence of being civ than say, MP or Canucklehead. That is I've put in lots of effort scum hunting. Forced play when it was stagnant. Called a scum a scum on day 1 and then was first on it's wagon. I can be scum independent of these things. You can and are scum independent of the things that make you look good.

Again, you know this. These are conclusions you draw without me having to spell it out. You, aren't, this, grey. You are too surfacy. You aren't civ fucking Golden.

#2353

If I was defending myself the way you are defending yourself you would be having an utter field day with me Golden.

#2354

Sure - read whatever you like into anything Is ay. If something I say supports me being bad, I'm being straightforward. If it isn't, it means the opposite. Whatever.

You display this confidence that no-one will possibly listen to me, but I don't know where I'm supposed to believe that confidence comes from.

I, on the other hand, have been part of this community for years and know that people are pretty good at reading my civ game. I've never called for my lynch because I'm afraid of it. Ride or die... I think you are the one afraid of 1 v 1. I'm not at all.

linki @ Mac - you say everything with such certainty its amazing.

Honestly, lynch me! Come on, do it! I want you to.

(Everyone else - if you do lynch me first, please don't drop the ball afterwards. I've talked a bit to Mac, and I think I have a good grip on his style. He's proud of his baddie game. I don't buy for a second that he is going to do this and risk coming out the other end owing me an apology.)

#2355

Golden wrote: linki @ Mac - you say everything with such certainty its amazing.

It's because I am a civilian and I being genuine Golden.

#2356

Golden wrote: (Everyone else - if you do lynch me first, please don't drop the ball afterwards. I've talked a bit to Mac, and I think I have a good grip on his style. He's proud of his baddie game. I don't buy for a second that he is going to do this and risk coming out the other end owing me an apology.)

What does this even mean?

#2357

Look at SVS signature. That's SVS to a tee... she was bad in the game she put that there, but she was still going to admit that her read on me was genuine and that she was wrong.

I don't think you are that guy Mac. Lets put a bet on whether I'm bad. What are you going to put up as your end of the bet?

#2358

I think your wager should be that you'll sign up for RYM91

because I'm five players short.

#2359

Golden wrote:I think your wager should be that you'll sign up for RYM91 because I'm five players short.

Four players short.

#2360

Golden wrote:Look at SVS signature. That's SVS to a tee... she was bad in the game she put that there, but she was still going to admit that her read on me was genuine and that she was wrong.

I don't think you are that guy Mac. Lets put a bet on whether I'm bad. What are you going to put up as your end of the bet?

This is what I mean, these sort of things aren't fair and they aren't you and they aren't civ at all.

Golden, no matter what happens I can never be 100% sure that I am right. I am a civilian, I have no fucking idea of the other roles. Brian could be stitching you up. It all could be bad luck. But I've had a bad feeling about you all game, said as much, and now I see evidence and it all comes together.

I have had a concern about you all game. I've been popping up and making noise then going back into my hidey hole for reasons we've already spoken of (and that you said you understood already).

What is it. Do you get it? Did you do the same thing to me by fake civ reading me despite apparently believing I am bad and then telling me we play alike? Or does that stuff equate to inconsistent me and make me bad? You can't have it both ways. If it makes me bad, why doesn't it make you bad?

I will play the RYM Mafia game if you aren't bad sure. That's an easy bet to make.

How would Crumb amuse Jabba if not in the thread. What kind of role is "amuse Jabba ... but yeah you can do it in BTSC that's cool" like what would be the point of even doing that? Of course it means Jabba has to display amusement in the thread. Who else has Brian been amused by? Black Rock? No, he literally only quoted you. He was laughing at your comment.

You're Crumb. You're done. You're toast. You're fired. Get out.

#2361

It's not fair to do the bet thing? Why is that not fair... is it not fair because you can't keep trying to force your wagon that I'm bad when I say something like that...

Brian may have been stitching me up, if it was intentional then bravo to Brian. Myself, I think it much more likely that he just laughed at some of my posts - as I've said, just like many other people have done in this game. I think the only 'luck' here is that Brian happened to come back as the role he did so that you can use it in your case.

All the evidence comes together.... no, 'lol' doesn't suddenly change a 'gut feel' to a 'shut case'.

I think it makes you bad because you keep denying it is what you are doing. I'm not the one who wants it both ways, you are... you are the one who claims to have had a gut read on me all game, but your conduct in the thread doesn't back that up. It backs up that you are all over the place.

Whatever, as I've said... lets go 1 v 1 today. I'm up for it.

#2362

OK - you bet that you will sign up for RYM91

I bet that I will buy you a million dollar mansion if you are correct.

Deal done.

#2363

Golden wrote:It's not fair to do the bet thing? Why is that not fair... is it not fair because you can't keep trying to force your wagon that I'm bad when I say something like that...

Brian may have been stitching me up, if it was intentional then bravo to Brian. Myself, I think it much more likely that he just laughed at some of my posts - as I've said, just like many other people have done in this game. I think the only 'luck' here is that Brian happened to come back as the role he did so that you can use it in your case.

All the evidence comes together.... no, 'lol' doesn't suddenly change a 'gut feel' to a 'shut case'.

I think it makes you bad because you keep denying it is what you are doing. I'm not the one who wants it both ways, you are... you are the one who claims to have had a gut read on me all game, but your conduct in the thread doesn't back that up. It backs up that you are all over the place.

Whatever, as I've said... lets go 1 v 1 today. I'm up for it.

I never said it was a shut case. Stop putting words in my mouth. I am super confident. Don't play the semantics game. Super confident doesn't mean I know for sure. I'm not going to suggest 1 v 1 against you simply because it's not fair to the game. It actually goes against exactly what I said pissed me off about yesterday. If this dominates the entire day, then yet again the Empire can just coast along because I think you are Hutt, you think I am Hutt. I doubt you are Empire. I assume you doubt I am Empire. They get to just choose between us and sit back and laugh again. I want the other players to continue what they are doing. There are players having their own dialogues. I want that to continue. I'm not going to ask everyone to put down their own enjoyment of the game for the benefit of a Golden gambit.

You pushing for that outcome is laughable. It's not you man. It's not you.

Linki: Golden... that's terribly not in the spirit of the game.

#2364

THIS IS MY FIGHT SONG / DH'S FAVORITE SONG / HE SINGS IT IN A THONG / OH YEAH

pew pew pew

Black Rock has been killed by the Empire.
It is now Day 6. You have 48 hours to go all Revenge of the Jedi on somebody's Sith ass.

#2365

I remember on RYM once I swore on my daughter's life I was civ. I got lynched anyway. I was civ. It was decided afterwards that saying shit like that goes against the spirit of the game entirely.

I'm not going to hold you to buying me a million dollar mansion, but you saying that really just made me feel stupid. Like if we're allowed to just play the game that way then what's the point. Now I don't see why/how you would say that if you were bad. Because you took it outside the confines of the game and are forcing me to question your actual personal ethics to maintain my read, which is unfair. I can't do that. I don't know you well but I like you and I don't believe you would say that if you were bad.

Disappointing to me on many levels...

I just totally lost interest in this game.

#2366

RIPIWYG Black Rock

Now let's all go Revenge of the Jedi on somebody's Sith ass.

#2367

Cheer up Mac

#2368

How about we don't bet anything when it comes to being right or wrong about whatever. Personal ethics will always come into question to an extent with propositions like that.

#2369

Lol, as I said Mac. Which of us is scared of a 1 v 1?

You should have thought more before going after me so hard. If you are civ, you've been wilfully blind to every rational statement put your way. You've tried getting at me every single way you can. You've called me empire. You've called me hutt. You've tried calling me civ to see if you can catch me off guard. You've said I'm mean and belittling. You've said I am not playing in the spirit of the game. You've said you have a gut feeling, you've said you're 99% certain. Anything, anything at all, as long as it makes me look bad and gets me lynched.

But what you've refused to do is look for a second at any of my defences. I respond to your actual accusations, and you just ignore them and ignore me trying to present the evidence against.

But your biggest crime? You've spent the entire game telling the thread what ISN'T golden. But you don't know me that well yet, Mac. I'm like an onion. I have layers.

Voting Mac - as soon as the poll is up.

#2370

No, I was totally convinced I caught a bad guy and he just took a giant shit on it by breaking what I thought were unwritten rules of the game. So now I feel stupid.

Linki: I'm angry at you. Go away.

#2371

Fuck it, Golden at this point your cheap tactic has completely made me feel like I'm wrong and stupid.

I'm not playing this dumb 1v1 game with you either. I want people to play the game properly. Not play the game Golden's way.

#2372

Golden wrote: If you are civ, you've been wilfully blind to every rational statement put your way.

No I haven't, at all.

#2373

MacDougall wrote:No, I was totally convinced I caught a bad guy and he just took a giant shit on it by breaking what I thought were unwritten rules of the game. So now I feel stupid.

Linki: I'm angry at you. Go away.

An unwritten rule is not a rule. If I as convinced as you were that Golden was bad then saying some shit about a mansion wouldn't change that. But I'm not you, so feel free to feel stupid over a statement that in no way makes Golden actually look better. Come on Mac, this kind of thing is why I was discouraging both of you from fighting way earlier in the game. Nothing good is coming of it.

linki - Why are you worried about everyone conforming to Golden's standards of how the game will be played?

#2374

Forgive me I have lost the will to give a shit.

#2375

a2thezebra wrote:linki - Why are you worried about everyone conforming to Golden's standards of how the game will be played?

Last time I said that, I think literally no-one voted for JJJ lol.

#2376

RIP Black Rock. I'm sorry zebra killed you.

#2377

I'm not worried about them doing it. I trust that if anyone votes for Golden or I it's based on evidence that they feel we are the best candidate for a lynch. I feel like his insistence on doing it is motivated by nefarious intentions. I don't think people will either.

Look, if you can't see the evidence that he's Crumb. Then you are inside your own heads. He's clearly Crumb.

#2378

thellama73 wrote:RIP Black Rock. I'm sorry zebra killed you.

Thoughts on Golden and/or Blooper? Pretty please?

linki - He may be Crumb, but he is not clearly Crumb. Certainly not because he made bcornett say "lol".

#2379

Golden has successfully driven me insane. One side of my brain is convinced he must be telling the truth because of his shitty gambit. By the other half is convinced that he's bad.

I quit life.

Linki: He did it TWICE. Have you actually analysed the contexts. Both of them were hilariously obvious. Neither deserved the response that Jabba gave them.

#2380

MacDougall wrote:I'm not worried about them doing it. I trust that if anyone votes for Golden or I it's based on evidence that they feel we are the best candidate for a lynch. I feel like his insistence on doing it is motivated by nefarious intentions. I don't think people will either.

Look, if you can't see the evidence that he's Crumb. Then you are inside your own heads. He's clearly Crumb.

Well, feeling stupid and totally wrong lasted quite some time there

Look, Mac, sorry if that gambit upset you. I thought you could see the gambit for what it was, a gambit. I tell you what, I'll change my bet to getting to call you MattDougall instead of Mac in the next game we play, in honour of how hard you are tunnelling on me. How does that sound.

#2381

Epignosis wrote:
THIS IS MY FIGHT SONG / DH'S FAVORITE SONG / HE SINGS IT IN A THONG / OH YEAH

pew pew pew

Black Rock has been killed by the Empire.
It is now Day 6. You have 48 hours to go all Revenge of the Jedi on somebody's Sith ass.

Lol, I was gonna write an actual story post but this is really too good. I'm sorry for the delay guys, I had some things I was juggling. Props to Epi for helping me out. For anyone who cares, Here is a kind of story-post to move the main story along.

===

After what felt like a week of negotiations had passed, both sides were beginning to suspect that Lando Calrissian was playing them for fools. Indeed, every attempt they made to secure a deal was met with impossible-to-meet counter proposals by the criminal mastermind. It was enough to gether the attention of Lord Vader himself. The Dark Lord of the Sith traveled in secret to Cloud City, with an entourage of his finest and most loyal Storm Troopers. He had a plan to encourage Lando to expedite his end of the negotiations. With Vader waiting patiently at their secure forward operating base, the Storm Troopers dispersed out into the residential areas of Cloud City, gathering up dozens of citizens from their homes. The few that dared to protest past light shoving and muffled screams were shot and left in their homes to die. Those that remained were lined up in a public area of the city, while troopers established a perimeter. Once everything had been secured, Vader arrived in his usual ominous fashion, walking along the line of hostages and breathing heavily from his mask.

"Calrissian means to play me for a fool? The patience of a Sith is not to be tested! Execute them!"

At his order, the troopers shot into the line of citzens, mowing them down with brutal efficiency. Before local authorities could react, the imperials dispersed back into the shadows, no doubt preparing their delegation to leave the planet. Once Lando had gotten word that one of the slaughtered was Black Rock, a dear friend, his temperament changed drastically. The swaggering space pirate was gone, replaced by a subservient puppy. the Rebel delegation was all but forcefully removed from their lodgings, and Lando refused to give them an audience. Lord Vader's plan to beat Lando into submission had worked, at least for now.

===

Black Rock wiped away tears as she watched the execution scene. Her doppelganger had previously been the subject of a very emotional side plot, and her tragic end was one of the emotional pillars of this version of the films. Looking over, she could see that Simon was yawning and nodding off.

"Oh man what time is it?" Black Rock asked, putting her handkerchief away. "Here, I'll take Simon to bed. You guys can just tell me what I miss."

Simon wiggled his arms in protest, blinking rapidly. "I'm fine. I don't even need a bed time." but it was not true. For try as he might, Simon could not stay awake. Because bed time is super important. Black Rock picked Simon up and headed off.

#2382

Golden wrote:
MacDougall wrote:I'm not worried about them doing it. I trust that if anyone votes for Golden or I it's based on evidence that they feel we are the best candidate for a lynch. I feel like his insistence on doing it is motivated by nefarious intentions. I don't think people will either.

Look, if you can't see the evidence that he's Crumb. Then you are inside your own heads. He's clearly Crumb.
Well, feeling stupid and totally wrong lasted quite some time there

Look, Mac, sorry if that gambit upset you. I thought you could see the gambit for what it was, a gambit. I tell you what, I'll change my bet to getting to call you MattDougall instead of Mac in the next game we play, in honour of how hard you are tunnelling on me. How does that sound.

I don't even know why it did but it really did...

#2383

MacDougall wrote:Golden has successfully driven me insane. One side of my brain is convinced he must be telling the truth because of his shitty gambit. By the other half is convinced that he's bad.

I quit life.

Linki: He did it TWICE. Have you actually analysed the contexts. Both of them were hilariously obvious. Neither deserved the response that Jabba gave them.

There's no way his shitty gambit has managed to convince HALF of your brain that he is right. If that's the only source of doubt for you then you should vote for him, I'm serious. Whether or not they deserved the response is entirely subjective.

#2384

a2thezebra wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Golden has successfully driven me insane. One side of my brain is convinced he must be telling the truth because of his shitty gambit. By the other half is convinced that he's bad.

I quit life.

Linki: He did it TWICE. Have you actually analysed the contexts. Both of them were hilariously obvious. Neither deserved the response that Jabba gave them.
There's no way his shitty gambit has managed to convince HALF of your brain that he is right. If that's the only source of doubt for you then you should vote for him, I'm serious. Whether or not they deserved the response is entirely subjective.

Okay your brain + half of my brain = more than the other half of my brain.

#2385

MacDougall wrote:Golden has successfully driven me insane. One side of my brain is convinced he must be telling the truth because of his shitty gambit. By the other half is convinced that he's bad.

I quit life.

Linki: He did it TWICE. Have you actually analysed the contexts. Both of them were hilariously obvious. Neither deserved the response that Jabba gave them.

Have you done what I asked and analysed how many other memes and jokes I've made and how many other people have laughed at them?

No.

I make jokes all the time, Mac. It's just part of my style. I actually had the role you speak of, once, in Roger Rabbit. I had to get them to actually use

that smily. That was epignosis hosted.

#2386

As long as we're making bets, here's a bet for you two.

If EITHER of you are scum-aligned, my signature will contain the disclaimer and nothing more for as long as I'm on this site. That's a real damn bet too, not a gambit.

#2387

Golden wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Golden has successfully driven me insane. One side of my brain is convinced he must be telling the truth because of his shitty gambit. By the other half is convinced that he's bad.

I quit life.

Linki: He did it TWICE. Have you actually analysed the contexts. Both of them were hilariously obvious. Neither deserved the response that Jabba gave them.
Have you done what I asked and analysed how many other memes and jokes I've made and how many other people have laughed at them?

No.

I make jokes all the time, Mac. It's just part of my style. I actually had the role you speak of, once, in Roger Rabbit. I had to get them to actually use that smily. That was epignosis hosted.

I don't think that makes a lick of difference. I think it's entirely likely that you started doing it for role reasons and then continued to do it so you could say exactly what you are saying here.

#2388

@zebra - I think Mac has the wool pulled over your eyes real tight.

I'm not fooled. His conviction that I am bad based on a couple of lols is a response to my case that he is on Team Hutt. It's a way of making everyone believe that his case on me is genuine, even if wrong. By implication, my case that he is on team Hutt has to be wrong.

If I were bad, I would play this the way Mac has. If I'm right, hats off to him.

I really think people should listen to me very badly and lynch him.

#2389

I think people should listen to me when I say that both of you are misrepresenting each other by accident, but I can't bet that they will. Both of your cases against each other are genuine and both are incorrect. I am very sure of this, but not positive, hence the bet.

#2390

a2thezebra wrote:I think people should listen to me when I say that both of you are misrepresenting each other by accident, but I can't bet that they will. Both of your cases against each other are genuine and both are incorrect. I am very sure of this, but not positive, hence the bet.

I don't think I'm misrepresenting Mac.

I also think you are incorrect that he is good.

#2391

Golden wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:I think people should listen to me when I say that both of you are misrepresenting each other by accident, but I can't bet that they will. Both of your cases against each other are genuine and both are incorrect. I am very sure of this, but not positive, hence the bet.
I don't think I'm misrepresenting Mac.

I also think you are incorrect that he is good.

Well we'll just have to agree to disagree then.

Glorfindel

COME AT ME BROTHERS AND SISTERS

#2392

*lets out war cry*

#2393

Also a pretty good choice for a vote, I believe.

#2394

Nay.

It is the PERFECT choice for a vote. FELLOW CIVILIANS AND SCUM THAT WE SHALL GET TO LATER, ignore this 1v1 hullabaloo! Join me in the lynching of this clever manipulator of darkness, the great evil GLORFINDEL shall die TODAY!

#2395

Lynch Golden. You'll never get another chance to lynch the guy. He'll never be this obviously bad in another game again.

#2396

MacDougall wrote:Golden is in full on panic mode.

No he's not?

MacDougall wrote:Brian replied to one of Golden's memes with "lol, love it".

Brian was Jabba the Hutt.

There is a character that is required to amuse Jabba.

Brian replied to one of Golden's memes with "lol, love it".

bcornett24 wrote:
Golden wrote:gth in this context is gun to head not go to hell.
lol that is awesome
Golden made a funny. Brian's reaction is way over the top. Way way over the top.

They are both fake as fuck lol. The only thing that could save you Golden is if Brian was trying to make you look bad upon his flip.

You are way over the top.
Way over the top.

MacDougall wrote:
Dom wrote:Because I haven't understood anything you've said to me this game.
But you didn't even answer the question?

The posts you make towards me tend to sound like a riddle and not a statement. I don't care pulling them up because you post too much.

anyway, sig bets ugh.

RIP BR.

#2397

MacDougall wrote:Lynch Golden. You'll never get another chance to lynch the guy. He'll never be this obviously bad in another game again.

If that's true then he deserves to never be lynched again, because he is nowhere near "obviously bad" to me.

#2398

Yes Dom, sig bets. Game on.

#2399

a2thezebra wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Lynch Golden. You'll never get another chance to lynch the guy. He'll never be this obviously bad in another game again.
If that's true then he deserves to never be lynched again, because he is nowhere near "obviously bad" to me.

Mac vastly overestimates my inability to get myself lynched. I do it all the time.

#2400

Watchmen is the most recent example I can think of where I was lynched for being obviously bad

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