Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13

[Young Lady]

Well that was after I realized people weren't going to take me seriously.

[Jack Shephard]

Why aren't you taking me seriously?

I'm taking you seriously but not your vote as you were obviously against the idea.

[Young Lady]

Well just because I'm against the idea doesn't mean I'm not willing to admit when I'm right.

[Young Lady]

I'm 100% for the idea of silent days because as soon as you realize how silly the idea of cutting 90% of discussion is, I would love to see how you guys react.

[Perd Hapley]

If we had a cozy little btsc room i'd be all up for a code but unfortunately discussing a code in front of (and WITH) the person you are trying to fool is anything but clever.

[Kent Brockman]

I am not in favor of an utterly silent Day period. Is there no middle ground between complete silence and the explosive verbosity we have witnessed?

Can you say why you're not in favor of this, or did I miss it?

Loquaciousness injures.
Quietude impairs: Nocturnal occurrences require conversation.

(I hope you see what I'm getting at)

[Young Lady]

I didn't say create the code in the thread.

What I said ( maybe not clearly ) was

1. Everyone decide on a method of code and a list of words to code (for the sake of this example, shifting letters in words)
2. ONE person shifts the letters randomly on the code list.
3. RIGHT before the night post, the new code is posted.

[Perd Hapley]

No Shand I don't think there is anything at all left to discuss. We should probably not even post for the rest of tonight, really.

I mean sure the whole point of the game is to post and talk and discuss suspects, and I mean, sure Roxy and Bea have been working super hard on the game and basically killing discussion for 48 whole hours is sort of defeating the point of the game and throwing it in the hosts faces, but, you know, Rumplestiltskin!

Rox and Bea also created a game where our own words can kill us. You dont think they want us to think outside the box and come up with ways to beat the baddies? Would they prefer a baddie sweep? I doubt it.

[Young Lady]

Well to be fair I don't think "shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" is either thinking, nor out of the box.

[Perd Hapley]

I didn't say create the code in the thread.

What I said ( maybe not clearly ) was

1. Everyone decide on a method of code and a list of words to code (for the sake of this example, shifting letters in words)
2. ONE person shifts the letters randomly on the code list.
3. RIGHT before the night post, the new code is posted.

I vote silence. that is too convoluted and we will spend more time trying to figure out the code than discussing anything meaningful. Plus it still puts us at risk.

[Perd Hapley]

Well to be fair I don't think "shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" is either thinking, nor out of the box.

I disagree.

[Young Lady]

God forbid we put effort into stopping the baddies :P

[Ned Flanders]

I do see what you're getting at Rhinfrew, but anyone who kills at night is going to kill regardless of conversation. I'm all for nightly conversation even in regular games.

But we are each entitled to view it as we choose.

Are you still of the opinion that Carmen is likely a townie? Did you happen to notice the other 2 or 3 players who were open to using a code of some type? If so, do you agree with them?

[Kent Brockman]

I do see what you're getting at Rhinfrew, but anyone who kills at night is going to kill regardless of conversation. I'm all for nightly conversation even in regular games.

But we are each entitled to view it as we choose.

Are you still of the opinion that Carmen is likely a townie? Did you happen to notice the other 2 or 3 players who were open to using a code of some type? If so, do you agree with them?

Perhaps my proposal wasn't as clear as I had intended it. How ironic.

What I was getting at was that things happen at Night (kills, visions, etc.) that may need to be discussed during the Day.

The bottom line is this: We don't need a special code to circumvent anything. We already have one. The common tongue is diverse enough that with creativity and thriftiness, we can get our points across to one another using as few clear words as we can.

[Perd Hapley]

I do see what you're getting at Rhinfrew, but anyone who kills at night is going to kill regardless of conversation. I'm all for nightly conversation even in regular games.

But we are each entitled to view it as we choose.

Are you still of the opinion that Carmen is likely a townie? Did you happen to notice the other 2 or 3 players who were open to using a code of some type? If so, do you agree with them?

Perhaps my proposal wasn't as clear as I had intended it. How ironic.

What I was getting at was that things happen at Night (kills, visions, etc.) that may need to be discussed during the Day.

The bottom line is this: We don't need a special code to circumvent anything. We already have one. The common tongue is diverse enough that with creativity and thriftiness, we can get our points across to one another using as few clear words as we can.

But then, after we say that, they choose a clear word.

[Ned Flanders]

well spoken Grut. The genie is recommending something that has already been attempted, without success.

[Julinook]

Wow...lots of talk since I was last in. Let me catch up

[Kent Brockman]

well spoken Grut. The genie is recommending something that has already been attempted, without success.

Attempted by who exactly?

[Perd Hapley]

well spoken Grut. The genie is recommending something that has already been attempted, without success.

I can't express how much I hate being called Grutfud. But thanks.

[Ned Flanders]

well spoken Grut. The genie is recommending something that has already been attempted, without success.

I can't express how much I hate being called Grutfud. But thanks.

Orangesprite sounds like a softdrink how about Fuddy?

[Kent Brockman]

Are you still of the opinion that Carmen is likely a townie?

I apologize for not addressing this in my response.

I don't know about Carmen. But please do not paint my words with a tinge they did not have: I never expressed the opinion that Carmen is likely a friend, only that the case against her was circumstantial and a Catch-22. I do not like such cases.

I find Gloomsoul to be the better choice. He sounds desperate and somehow bitter.

[Perd Hapley]

well spoken Grut. The genie is recommending something that has already been attempted, without success.

I can't express how much I hate being called Grutfud. But thanks.

Orangesprite sounds like a softdrink how about Fuddy?

Grutfud = a disease of the foot
Orangesprite = a tasty beverage

[Ned Flanders]

well spoken Grut. The genie is recommending something that has already been attempted, without success.

Attempted by who exactly?

In different degrees, by the majority. Are you suggesting we compare our words to all posts made during each day, to make certain we have repeated nothing? I'm thinking conversing at night will allow for more ease and speed, but if you think you can post during the day without ever saying a magic word, please tell how you plan to do this.

Also, I only note that you have made a case for Carmen twice, and I want to know if that has changed, no more no less.

linki- Orangesprite it is!

[Julinook]

Okay. Silent days are fine with me. I mean, I *do* think communication is very important in Mafia, but we have been crazy unsuccessful at catching baddies so far.

As for the lynch vote. I am for Quaren.

[Perd Hapley]

Once day starts, I dont think anyone should say "vote." I don't think there's any rule that says we have to say anything at all in the thread.

[Kent Brockman]

I now must venture forth into the perilous wilderness known as W'al-M'art, where I seek a treasure I have heard called "toilet paper." I still do not understand its purpose, but a mystical voice informs me that we have dire need of it.

I shall return.

[Saito]

So we are moving toward the end of the time where we can talk. Is there anything else we need to discuss? And i agree with not using the word vote when we put up the name of the person we're voting for.

[Gunther]

So we are moving toward the end of the time where we can talk. Is there anything else we need to discuss? And i agree with not using the word vote when we put up the name of the person we're voting for.

Or ballot, poll, choose, choice, cast, etc.

And TBH, if i absolutely have to express myself, I will pick a random language from Google translate, but will try to avoid that if possible, or some combo of that and pictures. We are all clever, we can find ways around it if we think hard enough

[Phoebe Buffay]

I am likely to just post a smiley when I vote. To completely remove any chance of Rumpel stealing my vote.

[Gunther]

Apple, banana, cow, dog, egg, folly, grumpy, hail, igloo, jam, kayak, limp, mandate, never, orange, pumpkin, query, rascal, stop, typical, ugly, vile, whatever, xylophone, yellow, zephyr



There, got words out of my system

[Roxy]

If you have won a prize and have not used it please PM your Hosts as I have some mixed up.

[Ned Flanders]

I'm not sure about using smilies, because when you hover over them, words flash up-

[Ned Flanders]

I'm not sure about using smilies, because when you hover over them, words flash up-

posted too soon. Anyhow, Rumple could just choose a common smilie and still rack up-

[Ned Flanders]

A major storm just rolled through Roxy's area, and she has no power/internet, so it may be the middle of the night before we have night post!

[Phoebe Buffay]

@Hosts: Do tooltips on images count as words in your post (for example, if I use this smiley and you put your mouse over it and it says "big grin" can Rumpel steal my vote if the secret word happens to be big or grin?)

I figure we should get clarification on this because I have not been considering smileys as words.

Linki: I hope everything is okay for you Roxy! We had big storms here earlier that were nasty!

[Ned Flanders]

A major storm just rolled through Roxy's area, and she has no power/internet, so it may be the middle of the night before we have night post!

I should have made that bigger-

A major storm just rolled through Roxy's area, and she has no power/internet, so it may be the middle of the night before we have night post

[bea]

I work till 1 am AZ time but I will take care of the night stuff as soon as I can. Prolly wont be up till like 3 AZ time. So sorry about the delay. ,

[Young Lady]

What is AZ time :P

Would it be easier to extend night 24 hours?

[Operator]

No worries Bea. Hope things are fine with you, Roxy.

Rhinfrew, regarding discussion of night events, the town can always do that the next night.

[S~V~S]

Arizona is on West Coast time in the summer, so they are 3 hours behind the East Coast. 3 AM AZ is 6 AM Eastern~ and last I heard Rox was fine, just wanting to conserve her phone battery If I hear anymore, I will post it for you guys~

[Spooky Ghost]

I'm glad I got here before night ended! I'll add my vote - I am ok with a silent day. I am also fine with voting Queran. (I am 100% open to hearing a defense from you, Queran. So far, it seems as you've spent most of your time insulting us - which I'm not 100% open to hearing; or coming up with zany codes - hey, if you really want to do this, why don't you go ahead and do it instead of talking about it; and saying that no one wants to hear your defense - this is untrue, as you haven't posted much of one yet to hear. You made a very brief post with 1 sentence answers to 3 questions that had been made to you, and that didn't read as a serious defense to me - since the rest of the time you have been saying you are no longer contributing in a serious way to the game. That is YOUR choice, but that choice will come with certain natural results. And if this is a mistaken way to try to overcome Rumpy, then it's a mistake. It's worth trying in my book. If we're wrong, show that to us without being snarky or condescending please. )

Carmen would be a fine 2nd place as far as I'm concerned.

I would be fine with trying to use smileys in posts as well. In fact, as I came on and was catching up with the thread I thought about that. We could probably even find images on a Google search (without words, of course) to pretty much convey many of our ideas. I've seen that done many a time in a game due to a curse and such.


Bea, take your time - this is a game and real life is more important! We'll be here whenever.

Roxy, hope your power comes back on soon! When that happens here, I suddenly get soooo bored, even if I wasn't doing anything previously.

[bea]

Attention all players:

My initial post saying I'd to the NP when I got home was panic driven, I got rox's message about her power literally (and like in the true sense of the word, not the exaggerated usage) while I was pulling into the parking lot to work. I didn't get to read the thread, didn't get to do anything, but text her "I'll take care of it when I get home. Just get that posted then save your phone power." When I posted, I'd not checked anything but didn't know if you guys knew about what was up and wanted to let you know I was as on top of it as I could be as well. Hence my flyby at work frantic post. (BTW - using the full editor on my phone was a PITA. I need a tablet for mafia on the go, I apparently need a bluetooth for work...technology is funny.)

After much thinking tonight while I was working, I have decided to extend the night till 5 pm EST Friday.

While I could go ahead and slap up the night post now, it would throw all of our times off and we'd have to have an extended day or something and it would all go to pot basically trying to play catch-up. (Also - it occurred to me that Rox is the only one of us who can make the lynch poll.) Seems to me the more I think about it that the easiest way to make up for this is by just holding the night post till tomorrow.

I promise I will be super promt as I will prep as much as I possibly can tonight and wake up hecka early tomorrow. Hopefully Rox's power is back on tomorrow and she'll make the poll as normal, if not, I'll see if Sockadelic can step in and make the poll for me. (Sockadelic is btw my fav nick-name for him!)

I'm so very sorry to disappoint anyone who was hoping to wake up to a night post.

Rox and I both thank you all so VERY much for your patience with us. Stoopid storm and stoopid work should be WAY more understanding of our mafia needs TBQFH.

In the meantime - here is some for you all. I hopped over to the HV Zombie bar, went down to my secret cellar, and grabbed a few bottles of my very very rare and very very only on the most special occasions used bottles of my Zombie Zin (With special thanks to SVS who helped me stock up that supply )



Enjoy my very patient and awesome players!

[Jack Shephard]

I think it's...

Silence 9
Code 1

[Young Lady]

I'm glad I got here before night ended! I'll add my vote - I am ok with a silent day. I am also fine with voting Queran. (I am 100% open to hearing a defense from you, Queran. So far, it seems as you've spent most of your time insulting us - which I'm not 100% open to hearing; or coming up with zany codes - hey, if you really want to do this, why don't you go ahead and do it instead of talking about it; and saying that no one wants to hear your defense - this is untrue, as you haven't posted much of one yet to hear. You made a very brief post with 1 sentence answers to 3 questions that had been made to you, and that didn't read as a serious defense to me - since the rest of the time you have been saying you are no longer contributing in a serious way to the game. That is YOUR choice, but that choice will come with certain natural results. And if this is a mistaken way to try to overcome Rumpy, then it's a mistake. It's worth trying in my book. If we're wrong, show that to us without being snarky or condescending please. )

Carmen would be a fine 2nd place as far as I'm concerned.

I would be fine with trying to use smileys in posts as well. In fact, as I came on and was catching up with the thread I thought about that. We could probably even find images on a Google search (without words, of course) to pretty much convey many of our ideas. I've seen that done many a time in a game due to a curse and such.


Bea, take your time - this is a game and real life is more important! We'll be here whenever.

Roxy, hope your power comes back on soon! When that happens here, I suddenly get soooo bored, even if I wasn't doing anything previously.

I did try to not be snarky or condecending, but all I got in return was "Oh you're just saying all that because you're bad"

So, if you don't mind, I'll just be in my little corner of the sandbox.


P.S

I did more than just one sentence of a defense, nobody wanted to hear it, so nobody is going to be hearing any of it anymore :P

[Spooky Ghost]

I am ready to listen, but you don't seem to want to talk. That's YOUR choice, Queran, fair enough. But then realize, the consequences of that choice are that you look really, really bad. So it's not US being jerks (or idiots/fools, as you so lovingly called us all) and lynching you, it's YOU not doing everything you can to save yourself.

[Roxy]

Which is your favorite?

Poll ended at Thu May 23, 2013 7:16 pm

Grimm's

Queran Gloomsoul (2), Ameerah Frolicstag (4), Grutfud Orangesprite (5), Fane Winebattle (7), Anchorete Playfulure (8), Shand Azureye (9), Bronwyn Mightyfeet (10), Carmen Brightsun (11), Miyuki Lovelymoth (12), Lyel Lambboat (13), Dierdre Wonderbird (18)

Aesop's 3 Rhinfrew Flowingrass (6), Dallon Redwarlock (16), Laine Crystalsteam (17)

Mother Goose 1 Izett Cruelsinger (15)

Mom (remember her?)/Hosts/ Ser

4

Socksandshoes/Deaded/Nons

Roxy (1), MovingPictures07 (3), Finnian Metalfox (14), Gobnait Gingeruite (19)

Total votes : 19

[Roxy]

Well I have let Bea and the ToeSock know what is happening now it's your turn. <3

The crew working on my power outage has stopped trying to fix it b/c of wind and more storms coming.
Idk when it will be back (hopefully tomorrow) but it will deffo not be today.

I am so happy I have such an awesome co-host that she can take care of everything. And keep to our time schedule.

I appreciate all of your patience as you may or may not know I do like to keep the post and poll times relatively close. So I am truly sorry to make you wait especially during a night phase.

[Perd Hapley]

Well I have let Bea and the ToeSock know what is happening now it's your turn. <3

The crew working on my power outage has stopped trying to fix it b/c of wind and more storms coming.
Idk when it will be back (hopefully tomorrow) but it will deffo not be today.

I am so happy I have such an awesome co-host that she can take care of everything. And keep to our time schedule.

I appreciate all of your patience as you may or may not know I do like to keep the post and poll times relatively close. So I am truly sorry to make you wait especially during a night phase.

Hey! I say, the longer I get to be Gutfrud Orangesprite the better!!!

[Young Lady]

I am ready to listen, but you don't seem to want to talk. That's YOUR choice, Queran, fair enough. But then realize, the consequences of that choice are that you look really, really bad. So it's not US being jerks (or idiots/fools, as you so lovingly called us all) and lynching you, it's YOU not doing everything you can to save yourself.

Every time I've come out with a defense, I'm met with "We're just going to lynch Queran, right? Everyone's pretty sure you're bad dude so we're just going to lynch you."

Don't blame the victim, Izett. You all asked me to defend myself on one hand and slapped me with the other. So Before you get the chance to lynch me unanimously without a word spoken during the day, I'm going to do my best to not to take you seriously.

[Ned Flanders]

I think its nice being able to speak freely at night. Sometimes the topics can be directly related to the nightly victim, and it can be illuminating.