Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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Poll ended at Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:38 pm

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15%
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Re: Day 4 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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MacDougall wrote:Changed my vote to Llama just now.
:beer:

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Re: Day 3.5 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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DharmaHelper wrote:
motel room wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
Dom wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Yay!
He says while clenching his buttcheeks and a forced grin with teeth bared.
I'm actually quite pleased to have been wrong. Not sure where this leaves me in terms of suspects, but I'll have a look and see what pops out
Not sure why this would change whether you suspect JJJ or not.
I mean moreso those I thought were bussing LoRab.
Is it this? You dropped names cos you thought we were bussing Lorab?
Are you seriously just pulling quotes and saying shit that makes no sense?
Yes? Feel free to help clarify though dingus.
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Re: Day 4 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
MacDougall wrote:I never said I was going to change my vote. Tranq is my vote. I am not changing my vote. Everyone else should also vote for Tranq.
Your vote is weak sauce.
Tranq hasn't really given me much of an option to build a case on him. I am lynching him because he has literally put in no effort to assist the civilians other than offer Ricochet his vote which he could just refuse to do if Rico chooses a scum partner. Defending his behaviour is annoying.
I don't give a shit if it's annoying. There are better cases. You agreed with llama/Dom, and you're voting for a generic lurker.
You said yourself that Tranq will get lynched eventually. When? Lylo? Lynch him now. It's safer.
That's not a reflection of my desire, it's my lack of faith in people to get around a generic lurker. If he's lynched and flips bad, it's dumb luck. At least today he's done something.

If we lynched llama right now what percentage chance would you assign to his being a baddie?
People also seem to want to tie the damn vote. Don't get me wrong, I love me some ties, but that's not going to get us anywhere. :ponder: Day 3.5 was an obvious exception... But still, I'll switch to a llama vote.

Holy wall of linkitis. Please let me post and subsequently vote :beer:
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Re: Day 4 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Changed my vote to Llama just now.
:beer:

Why the change?
Because Tranq's lynch is going the way of the dodo and Matt has no votes and Llama is the next highest on my list of suspects.
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Re: Day 4 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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Good to see you here, Bea. Always love to hear your thoughts.

Where is BR? Has she posted today?
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Re: Day 3.5 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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motel room wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
Dom wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Yay!
He says while clenching his buttcheeks and a forced grin with teeth bared.
I'm actually quite pleased to have been wrong. Not sure where this leaves me in terms of suspects, but I'll have a look and see what pops out
Not sure why this would change whether you suspect JJJ or not.
I mean moreso those I thought were bussing LoRab.
Is it this? You dropped names cos you thought we were bussing Lorab?
What I said in the post you quoted was that I was reevaluating my position on some of the people I thought might have been maliciously bussing LoRab. Since she flipped baddie, I now have to concede that some of the suspicion around her was genuine. Literally zero percent relevant in the other post you quoted.
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Re: Day 4 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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Let's CFD Motel Room.
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Re: Day 4 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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Now the pile up of votes is scaring me
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Re: Day 4 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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omfg
MacDougall wrote:Changed my vote to Llama just now.
nice tie you preserved
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bea wrote:You know what sucks more? My play this cycle. I am sorry. Still dealing with work chaos and my hubby has been on my schedule the last two nights so having my "post work mafia catch up alone time" hasn't happened. This shall change soon.
It's only made tougher when you happen to join in while the thread is moving so fast at the end of the phase. Thanks for your effort bea. :)
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Re: Day 4 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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motel room wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
motel room wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
motel room wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:My point being I saw the general circumstances behind the LoRab train to be suspect. I pulled the two most suspicious votes as examples in retrospect, but at the time the train as a whole looked sketchy to me due to the quickness with which it formed and the flimsy nature of some of its supporters.

i.e the same point I've made six million times.
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Hiya what sounds unreasonable to you in that quote?
your defence of not voting Lorab and pointing out specific names of who's votes on the other wagon "rubbed you the worng way" felt like you'd had it up your sleeve and practiced it. You named me and I know I said I was voting to save jjj so that's not really "flimsy", that's a stance. And like someone else pointed out I voted after you so
Homie you didn't read shit I said did you lol
I don't respond to "homie" but I am very very much behind. Catch me up, if so.
I said the general vibe of the wagon threw me off at the time. Afterwards, I named you and Tranq as two votes that looked bad in retrospect (i.e moving from the first JJ save to the tie).

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Re: Day 4 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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FZ. wrote:Now the pile up of votes is scaring me
Sometimes piles are okay if our LoRab wagons were any indication. :shrug:
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Re: Day 4 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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Wonder if llama flips civ how many people will start to look closer at Tranq.
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DharmaHelper wrote:Wonder if llama flips civ how many people will start to look closer at Tranq.
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Re: Day 4 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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Only two votes are missing. I think BR's and maybe Wilgy's
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Re: Day 4 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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DharmaHelper wrote:Wonder if llama flips civ how many people will start to look closer at Tranq.
possibly. Can't promise though :P
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You're all mean for keeping me awake. :mad:

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Re: Day 4 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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I'm dying to go to sleep.
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juliets wrote:oh you changed it.
What of yours?
Well, it looks like my vote on Tranq isn't doing much good. It didn't pressure him to come to the thread and talk and now people are dropping off. I thought your theory that Lorab was distancing was pretty good (this is not meant to buddy just to explain why I would change my vote) and so llama has been my other choice anyway so I'll change to him.

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Re: Day 4 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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Wilgy has caught up, but he hasn't done any deep reading other than reviewing LoRab
LoRab wrote:So, I may or may not have written this last night and then forgot to hit submit. :grin:

Looking at the night post, unless there was a redirect, it seems more than likely that there is more than 1 baddie team (the slight possibility of a redirect or some such allowing for a mafia team to kill its own), which I think warrants noting. Need to go back and read zebra's posts to see if there are any connections there. In all my lack of free time this weekend. I may need to do it Monday.
I don't know if anyone has spoken about this right here, but I'm thinking that there's only one baddie team. It seems odd that LoRab would mention a redirect if it wasn't the case. Also, I'm kinda reading it like this: "Yeah there's two teams, so anyone's suspect... most likely...

I think JJJ is civ, and actually Llama too. Looking at LoRab's 2nd to last post makes me think that they aren't on the same team. I don't think scum would throw their buddies name out like that when they are on the lynching block. Especially since LoRab seems to be the type to defend teammates.

I'm going to place a vote for Dom.
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Re: Day 4 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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Fertig mit der Hausaufgabe. :coffee2:
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Re: Day 4 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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DH, what do you think of llama's reasons to vote you?
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DH and JJJ had the lead just moments ago, what the hell?
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Re: Day 4 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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DrWilgy wrote:Wilgy has caught up, but he hasn't done any deep reading other than reviewing LoRab
LoRab wrote:So, I may or may not have written this last night and then forgot to hit submit. :grin:

Looking at the night post, unless there was a redirect, it seems more than likely that there is more than 1 baddie team (the slight possibility of a redirect or some such allowing for a mafia team to kill its own), which I think warrants noting. Need to go back and read zebra's posts to see if there are any connections there. In all my lack of free time this weekend. I may need to do it Monday.
I don't know if anyone has spoken about this right here, but I'm thinking that there's only one baddie team. It seems odd that LoRab would mention a redirect if it wasn't the case. Also, I'm kinda reading it like this: "Yeah there's two teams, so anyone's suspect... most likely...

I think JJJ is civ, and actually Llama too. Looking at LoRab's 2nd to last post makes me think that they aren't on the same team. I don't think scum would throw their buddies name out like that when they are on the lynching block. Especially since LoRab seems to be the type to defend teammates.

I'm going to place a vote for Dom.
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DrWilgy wrote:DH and JJJ had the lead just moments ago, what the hell?
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Re: Day 4 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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FZ. wrote:DH, what do you think of llama's reasons to vote you?
I'm never surprised when Llama gets around to voting for me in any game. I doubt it has anything to do with legitimate suspicion.
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DrWilgy wrote:DH and JJJ had the lead just moments ago, what the hell?
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Re: Day 4 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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Where is llama? Did he say he was leaving for the day?


linki: okay. Why aren't you freaking out now, over the piling up of votes, like you did last time?
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FZ. wrote:Where is llama? Did he say he was leaving for the day?


linki: okay. Why aren't you freaking out now, over the piling up of votes, like you did last time?
Fat load of good that did me, right?
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DrWilgy wrote:DH and JJJ had the lead just moments ago, what the hell?
JJJ? lyl
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Re: Day 4 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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DharmaHelper wrote:
FZ. wrote:Where is llama? Did he say he was leaving for the day?


linki: okay. Why aren't you freaking out now, over the piling up of votes, like you did last time?
Fat load of good that did me, right?
What do you mean? That you were wrong, or that it led no where?
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Ricochet wrote:Sketchy juliet vote #303000
Are you trying to say I am the only one who changes my votes? And how many times have i done it? i remember twice, counting this change to llama.
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Re: Day 4 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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The number of votes scares me, because like in Sig's case, when you have so many votes, if llama is civ, the baddies have it easier to hide behind all the votes.
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Re: Day 4 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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FZ. wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
FZ. wrote:Where is llama? Did he say he was leaving for the day?


linki: okay. Why aren't you freaking out now, over the piling up of votes, like you did last time?
Fat load of good that did me, right?
What do you mean? That you were wrong, or that it led no where?
In a way, both.
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Re: Day 4 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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DrWilgy wrote: Linki - Mac, why aren't you trying to get me to stop lurking? My signature is your response to my lurking. It's odd. Also, Mac, what did you mean by that knight gif you responded to me with?
I meant to attack you with it.

I am not trying to get you to stop lurking because you haven't lurked as badly as Tranq nor am I responsible for every possibility. Why would you not ask the same thing of every other player? Why would you want me to do that? Why have you JUST NOW come out of the clouds suspecting me just when others start to. Good one you cheap prick.
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FZ. wrote:The number of votes scares me, because like in Sig's case, when you have so many votes, if llama is civ, the baddies have it easier to hide behind all the votes.
And more buy-in for me as the fearless leader. :puppy:
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Re: Day 4 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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juliets wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Sketchy juliet vote #303000
Are you trying to say I am the only one who changes my votes? And how many times have i done it? i remember twice, counting this change to llama.
They just come off like that to me, tbh, regardless of evolution. I commented on your D3.5 contributing to a MM counter-wagon that could have served as third wheel to saving LoRab and your D3.0 was a loner on Tranq - from which you now just switched, because llama has more steam. Soo yeah.

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Re: Day 4 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
FZ. wrote:The number of votes scares me, because like in Sig's case, when you have so many votes, if llama is civ, the baddies have it easier to hide behind all the votes.
And more buy-in for me as the fearless leader. :puppy:
Do you still think we made the right decision? My paranoid side is thinking that Mac has been bussing Tranq all along, and now that we pushed him to change his vote, he can only blame us if llama comes out civ
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Re: Day 4 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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FZ. wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
FZ. wrote:The number of votes scares me, because like in Sig's case, when you have so many votes, if llama is civ, the baddies have it easier to hide behind all the votes.
And more buy-in for me as the fearless leader. :puppy:
Do you still think we made the right decision? My paranoid side is thinking that Mac has been bussing Tranq all along, and now that we pushed him to change his vote, he can only blame us if llama comes out civ
That's what I want you to think. The truth is that I have been distancing him to make you think this.
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FZ. wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
FZ. wrote:The number of votes scares me, because like in Sig's case, when you have so many votes, if llama is civ, the baddies have it easier to hide behind all the votes.
And more buy-in for me as the fearless leader. :puppy:
Do you still think we made the right decision? My paranoid side is thinking that Mac has been bussing Tranq all along, and now that we pushed him to change his vote, he can only blame us if llama comes out civ
I think we made the best decision I was able to come up with. That's all we can ask for in any lynch. :)

Your theory about Mac probably works or doesn't work independent of llama anyway.
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Re: Day 4 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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MacDougall wrote:
FZ. wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
FZ. wrote:The number of votes scares me, because like in Sig's case, when you have so many votes, if llama is civ, the baddies have it easier to hide behind all the votes.
And more buy-in for me as the fearless leader. :puppy:
Do you still think we made the right decision? My paranoid side is thinking that Mac has been bussing Tranq all along, and now that we pushed him to change his vote, he can only blame us if llama comes out civ
That's what I want you to think. The truth is that I have been distancing him to make you think this.
Great, all the more reason to vote you and tie it between you, Tranq and llama
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: I think we made the best decision I was able to come up with. That's all we can ask for in any lynch. :)
LMAO

All we can ask for in any lynch is to make the best decision Jimmy can come up with. Everybody else is a literal retard. Jimmy is King of Fuck Mountain.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I think we made the best decision I was able to come up with. That's all we can ask for in any lynch. :)
omg lol this is the most arrogant thing I have ever said. I'm sorry. Bad wording.
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FZ. wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
FZ. wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
FZ. wrote:The number of votes scares me, because like in Sig's case, when you have so many votes, if llama is civ, the baddies have it easier to hide behind all the votes.
And more buy-in for me as the fearless leader. :puppy:
Do you still think we made the right decision? My paranoid side is thinking that Mac has been bussing Tranq all along, and now that we pushed him to change his vote, he can only blame us if llama comes out civ
That's what I want you to think. The truth is that I have been distancing him to make you think this.
Great, all the more reason to vote you and tie it between you, Tranq and llama
Quick you better get your lynching pants on FZ.
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Ricochet wrote:
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Ricochet wrote:Sketchy juliet vote #303000
Are you trying to say I am the only one who changes my votes? And how many times have i done it? i remember twice, counting this change to llama.
They just come off like that to me, tbh, regardless of evolution. I commented on your D3.5 contributing to a MM counter-wagon that could have served as third wheel to saving LoRab and your D3.0 was a loner on Tranq - from which you now just switched, because llama has more steam. Soo yeah.

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You called my post #303000 which insinuated i had changed my votes multiple times. My vote for Metalmarsh was not a changed vote and it WAS NOT meant to start a counter wagon. I did change a vote from Tranq to JJJ and I changed just now from Tranq to llama. That's two votes I've changed. If you want to make a point get your facts right. If you suspect me then do a case on me and quit throwing around innuendo.
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I'm going to bed. Can't keep my eyes open. Nothing will change anyway by deadline. I just hope we made the right decision

Next day :P . You should be fore it. It will prove your civviness if you survive, won't it?

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Re: Day 4 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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FZ. wrote:The number of votes scares me, because like in Sig's case, when you have so many votes, if llama is civ, the baddies have it easier to hide behind all the votes.
This.

I saw afew votes, went to write out my thoughts, now I see a dead Llama...

ALSO I agree with Rico, I still don't like Juliet's vote.

Linki - Totes, after Star Wars all I ever read is "the guy who stated I had a small peen" so where is that now? I didn't notice it before, (mostly because like I stated earlier, it's just easy to ignore you) but FZ is right, It doesn't make sense that you'd single Tranq out as "the lurker", especially after your demonstration in Star Wars.

Linki - AAAAHHH THE LINKI

I'm going to go eat dinner or something, I'll be back after this resolves.
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DrWilgy wrote:Linki - Totes, after Star Wars all I ever read is "the guy who stated I had a small peen" so where is that now? I didn't notice it before, (mostly because like I stated earlier, it's just easy to ignore you) but FZ is right, It doesn't make sense that you'd single Tranq out as "the lurker", especially after your demonstration in Star Wars.
My calling you out for it in Star Wars sure accomplished a lot. It does make sense that I would single out Tranq as the lurker considering that was my first port of call in this game and I am not happy with his responses. If we lynch Tranq, sure I'll start calling you small peen again.
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Re: Day 4 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

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juliets wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
juliets wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Sketchy juliet vote #303000
Are you trying to say I am the only one who changes my votes? And how many times have i done it? i remember twice, counting this change to llama.
They just come off like that to me, tbh, regardless of evolution. I commented on your D3.5 contributing to a MM counter-wagon that could have served as third wheel to saving LoRab and your D3.0 was a loner on Tranq - from which you now just switched, because llama has more steam. Soo yeah.

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You called my post #303000 which insinuated i had changed my votes multiple times. My vote for Metalmarsh was not a changed vote and it WAS NOT meant to start a counter wagon. I did change a vote from Tranq to JJJ and I changed just now from Tranq to llama. That's two votes I've changed. If you want to make a point get your facts right. If you suspect me then do a case on me and quit throwing around innuendo.
I didn't even notice you switching from Tranq to JJJ, heh.
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