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I was never suspicious of you before, just viper. But that double-vote really makes both of you look suspicious to me.Snow Dog wrote: If Bullz flipped civ it means I got it wrong from the evidence.
I don't mind suspicion. It's a healthy thing in mafia. But look at the timings of mine and viper's posts. Exactly the same minute. How would any baddy team plan that or even want that? The very idea is silly. But feel free to vote for me tomorrow if you have any doubt about my honesty. I told a five year old child I wasn't bad. How could I lie to a five year old?Nevinera wrote:I was never suspicious of you before, just viper. But that double-vote really makes both of you look suspicious to me.Snow Dog wrote: If Bullz flipped civ it means I got it wrong from the evidence.
I never meant to imply that a civ bullzeye would *prove* you were bad, just that a baddie bullz would exonerate you.
Well maybe you could.DharmaHelper wrote:Very easily I suppose.
I guess I could too.....but I didn't this time.DharmaHelper wrote:If I had to, but I don't
Ok. Talk young man. Why do you think they are bad?Simon wrote:I think Snow Dog is a good guy. I will talk to him about my votes against Krissy and Lizzy.
It's hard because this is very tricky.Snow Dog wrote:Ok. Talk young man. Why do you think they are bad?Simon wrote:I think Snow Dog is a good guy. I will talk to him about my votes against Krissy and Lizzy.
But silence can be for many reasons, maybe she is also new to mafia and doesn't know what to say, or maybe she is very busy (I doubt it if she is a teacher.....yeah...she's bad). And looks can be deceptive. I'm sure Liz isn't as bad as she looks. (unless she is of course). Difficult isn't it?Simon wrote:It's hard because this is very tricky.Snow Dog wrote:Ok. Talk young man. Why do you think they are bad?Simon wrote:I think Snow Dog is a good guy. I will talk to him about my votes against Krissy and Lizzy.
Krissy has not talked a lot.
And Lizzy looks like a little bad dinosaur.
Sorry for that. I was getting my game started, and I was thinking the poll ended this evening rather than this morning.
cool! What are you doing over here?Lizzy wrote:Just quickly popped in to vote. I see all proggies went with Tull, as we should. Yay!
I'm off to Sweden for a few days, and not sure what my Internet access will be, but I'll make sure to check in at least once a day if there any polls.
Here he implies that he always knew Llama was acting in a civvie-like manner and his tone suggests he had spent a while arguing against lynching him. This is not the case however:Snow Dog wrote:Llama's plan was ill timed being in a game with a high level of newbies. But one person who voted for him simply wouldn't accept my point that if Llama was bad he wouldn't act like that. That was Bullzeye. I am voting for him. I am as sure as can be that he is bad.
Votes Bullzeye.
That was the only post of his that suggests he has any sort of doubt about Llama's intentions being bad, prior to this he sang a different tune:Snow Dog wrote:Isn't he acting too strange to be bad?Bullzeye wrote:I don't see any reason to keep waiting, it doesn't look like my opinion is going to change. I'm voting Llama - I think he's acting strangely and I'm not buying the whole 'sacrifice' thing he claims to be doing...
The previous night, he 'quite fancied' a Llama vote based on how he was acting at the time. So I really don't see where this whole idea that I or anyone else 'simply wouldn't accept' a point of his. He made this point once and with little enthusiasm or elaboration. Another thing caught my eye which could be nothing but bears mentioning regardless in my opinion.Snow Dog wrote:I doubt I'll vote him again. I quite fancy a vote for you or Llama if this pig idea keeps going. feels like a baddie move to me.Hedgeowl wrote:This could be said about so many of us in this gameA Person wrote:I'm terrible at making decisions, so waiting until the last minute is the only way I get things doneHedgeowl wrote:I am currently suspicious of those who didn't vote. Especially those like Lizzy and A Person who were waiting so last minute that they missed the vote. First day voting for noobs could be an excuse for some, but doesn't work for everyone. Not sure on Nev currently, but he's not my inclination for the next vote.However, Snow Dog I am curious if you will be voting for A Person again and do you have any further thoughts?
Here he suggests that baddies might not be able to use their own powers on their teammates, rendering anyone who they did use them on guaranteed civvie, based on the idea this is an easier game than most. It was later confirmed that of course baddies can target their own teammates as usual. This struck me as possibly a sort of preemptive defense of a team mate who might be targeted by a baddie power in future. On the other hand it could be nothing. But I'm quite curious about Snow in general.Snow Dog wrote:It could very well be different. This is kind of an easier game.Bullzeye wrote:Baddies do it a lot, I don't see why it'd be any different in this game.Hedgeowl wrote:So many questions. Since DH has clearly been biff'd, is DH now free from suspicion or can baddies target one of their own to throw us off?
-.OSnow Dog wrote:^Nice catch.
It wasn't? What was it about then?Nevinera wrote:Snow, the llama gambit isn't really a thing. Are you trying to get lynched too?
Is everyone in this game crazy?
You are decommissioned you better get RED!birdwithteeth11 wrote:Sorry everyone! I wasn't around at all yesterday. Catching up now.
Turnip Head wrote: We need to lynch Pennsylvania Bitch.
Turnip Head wrote: We need to lynch Pennsylvania Bitch.
Posted before catching up. Oh well.Snow Dog wrote:You are decommissioned you better get RED!birdwithteeth11 wrote:Sorry everyone! I wasn't around at all yesterday. Catching up now.
Time for some 
and 
at the zombie bar! That sounded vaguely sinister :-PHedgeowl wrote:I love everything that you want.
It obviously didn't work.Snow Dog wrote:It wasn't? What was it about then?Nevinera wrote:Snow, the llama gambit isn't really a thing. Are you trying to get lynched too?
Is everyone in this game crazy?
So am I wrong or bad to try and make the best of his gambit? What language?Nevinera wrote:It obviously didn't work.Snow Dog wrote:It wasn't? What was it about then?Nevinera wrote:Snow, the llama gambit isn't really a thing. Are you trying to get lynched too?
Is everyone in this game crazy?
Too many new people, and the logic about splitting the good from bad was incredibly shaky.
And two of the llama-voters were pretty clearly not diesels, which means that even if all three of the others were, he only did a little better than guessing.
And language, sir, I don't speak French!
The municipality hasNevinera wrote:That sounded vaguely sinister :-PHedgeowl wrote:I love everything that you want.
Turnip Head wrote: We need to lynch Pennsylvania Bitch.
Turnip Head wrote: We need to lynch Pennsylvania Bitch.
No, I was asking if you were attempting the same gambit by not bothering to reply to a complicated and analytical attack.Snow Dog wrote: So am I wrong or bad to try and make the best of his gambit? What language?
No I wasn't rude. Least not intentionally. No I am not trying any gambit. I didn't realise I had to reply. What do you want me to say?Nevinera wrote:No, I was asking if you were attempting the same gambit by not bothering to reply to a complicated and analytical attack.Snow Dog wrote: So am I wrong or bad to try and make the best of his gambit? What language?
And I meant *your* language, which was somewhat rude.
I think I understand. That word is not considered bad language here. My mistake and sorry.Epignosis wrote:Taken care of Snowy. Don't worry.
"I am not a diesel" would have been a great start.Snow Dog wrote: No I wasn't rude. Least not intentionally. No I am not trying any gambit. I didn't realise I had to reply. What do you want me to say?
My understanding is that the Welsh have their own bad language. It is very bad indeed. Much like the Ents, it takes all afternoon just to say "Good Morning."Snow Dog wrote:I think I understand. That word is not considered bad language here. My mistake and sorry.Epignosis wrote:Taken care of Snowy. Don't worry.
Nevinera wrote:"I am not a diesel" would have been a great start.Snow Dog wrote: No I wasn't rude. Least not intentionally. No I am not trying any gambit. I didn't realise I had to reply. What do you want me to say?
Or any kind of argument at all?
I hate it when people do things that make no sense..
Snow Dog wrote:No, Simon.Simon wrote:Snow Dog, are you bad?
As you know perfectly well, *this* is the response I'm talking about.Snow Dog wrote:^Nice catch.
I haven't ignored it. I quoted my post for you where I tell Simon I'm not bad.Nevinera wrote:As you know perfectly well, *this* is the response I'm talking about.Snow Dog wrote:^Nice catch.
Do you think you can make a page-long post go away by ignoring it?
Especially considering who posted the argument.. if you don't have anything to say about it,
I'm pretty sure where my vote's going.
I don't see why it is random. Diesels are decommissioning Steam. That is the game.Nevinera wrote:I'm also still curious about the BWT thing.
Does anyone have thoughts on the reasons behind such random-seeming kills?
I'm especially curious if you have any thought Bullz..
Why especially me? I have no great insight to share. In my experience kills rarely have much of a pattern because patterns can lead to players, so random-seeming would be the way to go. Perhaps the diesels don't have any particular agenda or perhaps they have one that's not so obvious.Nevinera wrote:I'm also still curious about the BWT thing.
Does anyone have thoughts on the reasons behind such random-seeming kills?
I'm especially curious if you have any thought Bullz..
Oh and of course you'd definitely have confessed if you were a baddieSnow Dog wrote:I haven't ignored it. I quoted my post for you where I tell Simon I'm not bad.Nevinera wrote:As you know perfectly well, *this* is the response I'm talking about.Snow Dog wrote:^Nice catch.
Do you think you can make a page-long post go away by ignoring it?
Especially considering who posted the argument.. if you don't have anything to say about it,
I'm pretty sure where my vote's going.
But decommissioning steamers that are basically absent seems like poor play to me.Snow Dog wrote:I don't see why it is random. Diesels are decommissioning Steam. That is the game.
Because I have a strong reason to believe you're a civ (which ought to be obvious, though I don't think I'm allowed to explain, since it indicates a specific role).Why especially me?
That doesn't make sense. Of course they have an agenda - they're trying to *win*.Perhaps the diesels don't have any particular agenda or perhaps they have one that's not so obvious.
Oh come on, that's not a role hint.Snow Dog wrote:Well if you are dropping role hints Nev and confirming he is is Civ I will be sure to not vote him this time.
Anyway. Good night all. Time for bed.
