Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

[Ricochet]

I agree that it's a bit unusual for Mac to stay quiet around this time of the Day, not to mention EoDay.

[Ricochet]

So much for :23 perfect deadl- oh wait.

[juliets]

So much for :23 perfect deadl- oh wait.

yeah they changed to :38

[Marmot]

Juliets, why do you believe MacDougall that I am bad and the only baddie left? Especially since he suggested you are the alternate option.

[MacDougall]

Sorry dudes and dudettes I just got back from taking my kid to swimming lessons first thing on a Saturday morning after a sleep in.

I have to admit that the Zebra post does introduce an element of doubt to my teams but I am still very confident that you are bad and failing that we lynch an indy whose win con is totally questionable. I am quite sure we only have 1 baddie left.

Whether it's on a team with Wilgy or a team with Drac Metalmarsh you are the most likely bad guy left in the game + even on the very small chance you aren't lying we aren't lynching civ so there is far and away no better lynch candidate here.

Don't let the silvertongued marmot coerce you fellow civs. We are close to winning this.

[Marmot]

I believe that the teams were/are:

Wilgy
Zebra
Metalmarsh or juliets

Dharmahelper
Lorab
Draconus

And again, why are people believing this post from Mac? Zebra basically outed herself as a teammate of DH here. I cannot possibly be on a team with her.

[Ricochet]

juliets - Draco
D2 - comments on Draco's curse, agrees with Golden about Draco being truthful about it

D6 - wary of Draconus simply putting words in front of words
votes Draconus to save LC; confused by him self-voting, if civ
reads Draco as civ after entire D6 affair
rebuttal on her vote decisions

D8 - frustration over being lumped together with Draco, MM and motel (by Mac)
inquires FZ's vote being "freaked out", then rechecks thread for answer herself

N9 - derps on Draco's reveal [just fun to mention again ]; in reply to Matt, thinks D9 was a lynch switch

juliets - Wilgy
D6 - plans to ISO Wilgy and motel; ISOs only motel
could pressure vote Wilgy

D7 - revotes Wilgy, following up in MM's footsteps at that time
asks Wilgy why he finds Dom's suspects list less valid after his flip as a checker

D8 acknowledges DH's bodying of Wilgy, adds that to her ISO and gut to keep sussing Wilgy
considers change of vote
votes Wilgy over MM

D9 agrees on Wilgy being counterbalance to both motel and JJJ



Not much in here. Draco interactions come out fairly clean, as, once again, I cannot imagine the likelihood of Draco and his team pushing for a counterwagon to save LC... on Draco.

Wilgy interactions include the usual reoccurences of pressure votes and such and the slight hiccup in trusting Wilgy towards the end of D8, but it must be said it's a much fainter second-guessing moment than bea's or FZ's. Not sure which way to interpret that. Tinfoil-wise, it could be a moment of trying to test the thread's mood on finding Wilgy's rebuttals good. But her vote came before the Wilgy - Draco wagons took full shape (juliets put Wilgy 4-2, he got two more afterwards and Draco three more), so it looks adequate to me.

I cannot add to or take away from her overall sins, based on this, but I don't get a strong teamie indicative vibe from either directions.

=== it's 2:30am, so yeah, no more judgment haikus today ===

[MacDougall]

I believe that the teams were/are:

Wilgy
Zebra
Metalmarsh or juliets

Dharmahelper
Lorab
Draconus

And again, why are people believing this post from Mac? Zebra basically outed herself as a teammate of DH here. I cannot possibly be on a team with her.

You are using the posts of a dead scum to defend yourself. That's gross as fuck.

[Ricochet]

So much for :23 perfect deadl- oh wait.

yeah they changed to :38

that'was my joke

[Marmot]

Sorry dudes and dudettes I just got back from taking my kid to swimming lessons first thing on a Saturday morning after a sleep in.

I have to admit that the Zebra post does introduce an element of doubt to my teams but I am still very confident that you are bad and failing that we lynch an indy whose win con is totally questionable. I am quite sure we only have 1 baddie left.

Whether it's on a team with Wilgy or a team with Drac Metalmarsh you are the most likely bad guy left in the game + even on the very small chance you aren't lying we aren't lynching civ so there is far and away no better lynch candidate here.

Don't let the silvertongued marmot coerce you fellow civs. We are close to winning this.

It's not just an element of doubt. You even agreed with me that zebra was a teammate of DH here.

And that logic is not even logic to say it doesn't matter who my teammate is. That was your argument to begin with. To suddenly lose that evidence to support your case but maintain the case anyway is wrong.

[juliets]

Juliets, why do you believe MacDougall that I am bad and the only baddie left? Especially since he suggested you are the alternate option.

I believe because of the Dom evidence. He said you were bad and i don't know why he'd do that if you weren't. It doesn't affect me that Mac thinks I'm bad if you're not.

[Marmot]

I believe that the teams were/are:

Wilgy
Zebra
Metalmarsh or juliets

Dharmahelper
Lorab
Draconus

And again, why are people believing this post from Mac? Zebra basically outed herself as a teammate of DH here. I cannot possibly be on a team with her.

You are using the posts of a dead scum to defend yourself. That's gross as fuck.

So did you.

[Ricochet]

Juliets, why do you believe MacDougall that I am bad and the only baddie left? Especially since he suggested you are the alternate option.

I believe because of the Dom evidence. He said you were bad and i don't know why he'd do that if you weren't. It doesn't affect me that Mac thinks I'm bad if you're not.

You do know I'm going to check if you ever brought this Dom angle before on believing MM is bad, right?

[MacDougall]

You don't know what I know Metalmarsh. I am trying to fit the balls into the holes. I could be wrong about you being on a team with Zebra, but then the fact is you are suspicious for saving Draco. Then there's you being scum via deduction as well as you best case scenario flipping indy.

There is circumstantial evidence everywhere against you, Motel Room isn't Kubrick, Sorsha has Matt vouching for her and Dom appears to have let on that he had civ info on juliets.

[Ricochet]

Welp:

goddamn it marmot, bih marmot or sayonara marmot, from civflip to badflip to newtflip, whichever happens.

[juliets]

Juliets, why do you believe MacDougall that I am bad and the only baddie left? Especially since he suggested you are the alternate option.

I believe because of the Dom evidence. He said you were bad and i don't know why he'd do that if you weren't. It doesn't affect me that Mac thinks I'm bad if you're not.

You do know I'm going to check if you ever brought this Dom angle before on believing MM is bad, right?

That's fine. It was the main reason I thought he was bad.

[Marmot]

Juliets, why do you believe MacDougall that I am bad and the only baddie left? Especially since he suggested you are the alternate option.

I believe because of the Dom evidence. He said you were bad and i don't know why he'd do that if you weren't. It doesn't affect me that Mac thinks I'm bad if you're not.

Ok, what happens if/when I get lynched and don't flip bad?

[Ricochet]

You don't know what I know Metalmarsh. I am trying to fit the balls into the holes. I could be wrong about you being on a team with Zebra, but then the fact is you are suspicious for saving Draco. Then there's you being scum via deduction as well as you best case scenario flipping indy.

There is circumstantial evidence everywhere against you, Motel Room isn't Kubrick, Sorsha has Matt vouching for her and Dom appears to have let on that he had civ info on juliets.

Arrested Development mafia is this way, Tobias.

[Marmot]

You don't know what I know Metalmarsh. I am trying to fit the balls into the holes. I could be wrong about you being on a team with Zebra, but then the fact is you are suspicious for saving Draco. Then there's you being scum via deduction as well as you best case scenario flipping indy.

There is circumstantial evidence everywhere against you, Motel Room isn't Kubrick, Sorsha has Matt vouching for her and Dom appears to have let on that he had civ info on juliets.

You're smashing the marmot ball into the baddie hole and I don't fit.

[S~V~S]

It's the beginning of the end

Poll runs till Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:38:36 pm
You may select 1 option

bea
0
No votes

FZ.
0
No votes

juliets
0
No votes

MacDougall
0
No votes

Matt
0
No votes

Metalmarsh89
5
MacDougall (2), Matt (7), juliets (10), motel room (11), bea (14)
29%

motel room
3
FZ. (12), Metalmarsh89 (15), Sorsha (17)
18%

Sorsha
0
No votes

of the end of the beginning (hosts/dead/nons)
9
MovingPictures07 (1), DharmaHelper (3), a2thezebra (4), S~V~S (5), Dom (6), Typhoony (8), LoRab (9), Turnip Head (13), HamburgerBoy (16)

[S~V~S]

Juliets ran through the jungle. She was afraid to look over her shoulder; she worried it would slow her down, but she was also afraid of what she might see. What she could smell and hear was bad enough.

****

She had been following her normal routine, running errands, going to the gym, three days earlier when she got a mysterious message from a bear. The message said she had three days to perform a specific task, or she would die a horrible, smelly, loud death in the jungle. She looked around her at the big city and decided she would not be leaving town for the forseeable future.

She had woken up this morning, got out of bed and stretched. Ah, to be alive and in the big city! She opened her bedroom door and stepped...

into the jungle.

****

Metalmarsh ran through the jungle. With all the rock climbing he did, he felt he could go on forever. He was pretty sure he had shaken the lynch mob, but better safe than sorry. He had also seen someone he felt he needed to talk to. Even if the mob caught him, he felt Juliets needed to know the truth about him.

****

Juliets thought it sounded further away, so she took a chance and looked over her shoulder. She saw something impossible. She knew better than to slow down, though, to look at it and try to figure out what it was. She started to turn back to face forward, and she ran right into a tree.

And it was upon her. She had been screaming and did not even know it until she heard herself stop screaming.

****

Metalmarsh was trying to catch up, she ran so fast. He just had to tell her something. She had to believe him. He was almost there. He could hear her screaming as she ran. He ran into the clearing and the screaming stopped.

While he wanted Juliets to listen to him, he wanted no part of whatever the hell that was that had her pinned to the tree. He started back the way he came, and ran right into the lynch mob, who was marching motel room off to the gallows.


Juliets has been killed. She was:

Spoiler: show

Major Bartholomew D'Ysquith – Gentleman’s Guide CIVVIE
Each night Major Bartholomew will force another player to accompany him to the weightlifting hall, blocking them for the night and pulling them out of any BTSC the next Day.

motel room has been lynched. He was:

Spoiler: show

Li Ling Lee - The Chop Suey Cook BADDIE- Can feed someone to remove a lynch vote. Food is strength..

It is Night 10.
Twenty Three Hours to get PMs in please.

[Marmot]

See!

[Marmot]

Yay! Nice result.

[Ricochet]

[Ricochet]

What did you do, Marmot?

Then again, BIH motel.

6 left before a night is still pretty tense, dense, though.

[MacDougall]

That was unexpected. Wow.

Metalmarsh you really are lynchproof aren't you.

[Ricochet]

Oh RIP, juliets. I slightly kept hounding you to keep suss on you, despite believing Dom confirmed you civ.

[Marmot]

What did you do, Marmot?

Then again, BIH motel.

6 left before a night is still pretty tense, dense, though.

I... lived.

Linki: No I am not lynchproof.

[Ricochet]

Wait, motel was lynched?!

What did you dooooooo?

[Ricochet]

So does anyone feel the other baddies are Asian Scrabble Names from that Harry Keeler Peeler game... conveniently hosted by Llama?

If all this is true, one baddie left.

[Ricochet]

So does anyone feel the other baddies are Asian Scrabble Names from that Harry Keeler Peeler game... conveniently hosted by Llama?

If all this is true, one baddie left.

Then again, if this is true, Draco was Epic Nose, so... two baddies left. ( )

[MacDougall]

One baddie? That would make uneven teams wouldn't it?

Linki: Yeah fuck.

[Marmot]

So does anyone feel the other baddies are Asian Scrabble Names from that Harry Keeler Peeler game... conveniently hosted by Llama?

If all this is true, one baddie left.

1 or 2?

[Ricochet]

The past three Day lynches had no civ on the permanent wagons.

[Ricochet]

So does anyone feel the other baddies are Asian Scrabble Names from that Harry Keeler Peeler game... conveniently hosted by Llama?

If all this is true, one baddie left.

1 or 2?

I kept thinking back to Epig maybe getting to manage to Epic Noses, and Llama getting to manage to City Wok team, but motel's flip, without an endgame, definitely makes it uneven, no matter how you spin it. So two.

[Marmot]

All of the potential Epic Noses roles came from games hosted by Epignosis...

[MacDougall]

My guess is that one of the people who voted for Motel Room had extra votes and Metalmarsh can remove votes off him as per the read on him earlier.

Metalmarsh I don't think you expected to live, so I don't think you removed enough off you. I'd say you had help.

Here's a crazy thought... three scum teams after all?

[Ricochet]

"Who To Rezz?" Poll

linki: are you crazy?

[Marmot]

My guess is that one of the people who voted for Motel Room had extra votes and Metalmarsh can remove votes off him as per the read on him earlier.

Metalmarsh I don't think you expected to live, so I don't think you removed enough off you. I'd say you had help.

Here's a crazy thought... three scum teams after all?

Anything to fit me into your baddie puzzle...

Don't tell Matt about this theory please and thanks you.

[Ricochet]

My guess is that one of the people who voted for Motel Room had extra votes and Metalmarsh can remove votes off him as per the read on him earlier.

Metalmarsh I don't think you expected to live, so I don't think you removed enough off you. I'd say you had help.

Here's a crazy thought... three scum teams after all?

Then what of juliets dying? Wouldn't that hint at MM's role?

linki: ok, I lold'

[S~V~S]

The story was just for flavor & suspense.

[MacDougall]

Is 3 teams of 3 actually weird? Is there no precedent?

[Ricochet]

I kinda wish to rezz Fuzz (if the Night Poll if truly a rezz poll) and have him as a backup vigi shooter. Or as a vigi Marmot shooter, if we head into lylo D12. Can't have Marmot around, then.

linki: There isn't.

I also didn't mean the Host Post story. I meant juliets effectively being killed on a Day phase. Out of the blue.

[Marmot]

Then what of juliets dying? Wouldn't that hint at MM's role?

linki: ok, I lold'

I don't know what to make of the circumstances of juliets death.

Linki: I think it would be weird Mac. That means each team would kill every third night. That doesn't seem logical.

[MacDougall]

I kinda wish to rezz Fuzz (if the Night Poll if truly a rezz poll) and have him as a backup vigi shooter. Or as a vigi Marmot shooter, if we head into lylo D12. Can't have Marmot around, then.

linki: There isn't.

I also didn't mean the Host Post story. I meant juliets effectively being killed on a Day phase. Out of the blue.

You don't really think it's a legit rezz poll do you?

Look at us and our silly ideas.

[Ricochet]

I kinda wish to rezz Fuzz (if the Night Poll if truly a rezz poll) and have him as a backup vigi shooter. Or as a vigi Marmot shooter, if we head into lylo D12. Can't have Marmot around, then.

linki: There isn't.

I also didn't mean the Host Post story. I meant juliets effectively being killed on a Day phase. Out of the blue.

You don't really think it's a legit rezz poll do you?

Look at us and our silly ideas.

Fuzz is position 3. Remaining baddies could be llama chin chank chooks, so no danger of Trickster-isms. I say it's worth a try.

If anything, MM could be the Trickster.

[Ricochet]

Then what of juliets dying? Wouldn't that hint at MM's role?

linki: ok, I lold'

I don't know what to make of the circumstances of juliets death.

Linki: I think it would be weird Mac. That means each team would kill every third night. That doesn't seem logical.

Don't buy it.

You hinted at your role being shrouded in secrets.
You must have received something by winning N9 yesterday.
You could be a bomb.
Motel had the skill to remove a vote, yet still lost 3 to 5 (or 2 to 5, if the case).

I don't buy that it didn't have something with lynching you.

[Ricochet]

If the rezz poll is by any chance real, I don't see which players, except sig or Fuzz, can still help us on a one, two Night at most term.

[Marmot]

Then what of juliets dying? Wouldn't that hint at MM's role?

linki: ok, I lold'

I don't know what to make of the circumstances of juliets death.

Linki: I think it would be weird Mac. That means each team would kill every third night. That doesn't seem logical.

Don't buy it.

You hinted at your role being shrouded in secrets.
You must have received something by winning N9 yesterday.
You could be a bomb.
Motel had the skill to remove a vote, yet still lost 3 to 5 (or 2 to 5, if the case).

I don't buy that it didn't have something with lynching you.

If I did win anything from the result of the Night 9 poll, I couldn't talk about it anyway.

If a bomb was placed on me as a result, I did try to get voters to move elsewhere as much as I could. Still, this has nothing to do with my role, or any of my knowledge of this game.

[Marmot]

If the rezz poll is by any chance real, I don't see which players, except sig or Fuzz, can still help us on a one, two Night at most term.

It depends. Would you rezz someone for their role ability, or rezz someone who can and is willing to catch up on (most of) the game and offer educated insight?