Ricochet wrote:Lololol no, in the podcast he said he gave two simple rules to the team at the very beginning: Don't spew & Don't buss and then you and Jefferson Reed just raised a leg and pee'd all over that.
I couldn't stand his attitude of directing each players' actions before Day 1 had even started. I told him we'd (or at least I'd) be better off just following my meta.
If it weren't me in the situation, I would say that it's just as likely that those that voted for Motel Room and/or Wilgy on days that their lynches didn't occur when they should have, whose votes appeared haphazard, are more likely to be scum than the person who unwittingly was hard defending a revealed scum in the thread. The fact that Motel Room voted for Wilgy himself lends credence to the fact that their team had history of voting for one another. It is possible they were doing it continuously throughout the game. But as a defense it's too wifom so I will leave that unsaid. Oh wait I accidentally hit submit.
MacDougall wrote:Lol FZ vote for the option with no votes for it. Maybe the world will end.
Uh are you seeing things mate? You ok?
I don't really understand the positions mechanisms. I haven't even really thought much about them the entire game tbh.
Like, you don't understand anything about it?
I don't know if it's a matter of positions anymore, tbh, after the Epic Noses got eliminated. It's been a matter of stuff happening, items being given, extra things being out there, at least for the past two night phases. Both D9 and D10 twist lynches give me that vibe of hidden extra stuff happening. This poll could mean something as well. Probably not a rezz. Probably not a message from the grave. But something. I don't think it can mean something if it stays in a four-way tie.
DrWilgy wrote:I support what you did Marmot. MP's salty tears are delicious...
And to be fair, it wasn't completely my fault. Partially sure, because I was basically AFK in that game after Day 4, but I played a solid game before that.
Ricochet wrote:It's Night 10. Vote something and own the way you vote.
I've done this much at least.
Metalmarsh are you trying to claim civ now? You don't have to pretend you have our best interests at heart. You have got to the point where you're most likely to just win with either side so you should just stop pissing in our pocket.
I'm just going to leave this out here for your enjoyment:
MacDougall wrote:
Sorsha wrote:By asking you and Matthew questions I did I am trying to get a handle on the situation. And you're going to refuse to answer?
Lol I'm not refusing I just want your opinions.
Fine but if you don't follow it up I will shake my fist at you.
Here's where I'm at...
I believe I have deduced the civilian alignment of all but two players. Juliets and Metalmarsh. I can't elaborate on how but I can say that the one I am most certain of is Motel Room, especially in light of how yesterday went down. I am quite sure of Matt and FZ and by extension you. Bea, despite being wrong about Wilgy, I am sure is civilian because of LC related reasons. That one he definitely got right, he must have. I don't believe that there are 2 scum left. I believe there is 1. 2 wouldn't make any sense mathematically. I believe that it is far more likely to be Metalmarsh.
If I am wrong about the Marmot, juliets must be lynched tomorrow. I will be the most likely to be killed tonight if the game doesn't end with a Marmot lynch. If he is not the last bad guy it is without doubt juliets. Look back at her interactions with Zebra if you need to find a case but tbh it's primarily from deduction.
Okay, if there are two mafia left, I'd say Matt is one of them. I need to sleep.
Yeah you did. That was the crazy game where MP got lynched Day 1, and exposed 2 of his 3 teammates in the process, you and Elohcin, who were lynched on Day 2 and Day 3.
FZ civilians can be wrong. If you are right now about me being bad that means that you were wrong the multiple times you civ read me earlier so to be right you'd need to have gone through the exact thing I've gone through. So don't be a hypocrite.
Ricochet wrote:It's Night 10. Vote something and own the way you vote.
I've done this much at least.
Metalmarsh are you trying to claim civ now? You don't have to pretend you have our best interests at heart. You have got to the point where you're most likely to just win with either side so you should just stop pissing in our pocket.
You tried to lynch me yesterday, and motel room, the counter lynch, you claimed was civ, flipped bad instead. Why the F are you still trying to cast shade on me?
Bring me an actual case please instead of pushing the fact that I'm neutral/Indy as if nobody has known at all this entire game.
bea wrote:Rico - I will move my vote if it helps. Any prefernece?
Ugh, time to bring out an oldie.
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It's Night 10. Vote something and own the way you vote.
Dude. Chill. I am perfectly happy with my vote. You are the one saying we should have a definite leader in the poll. Since it was your concern, I asked your opinion.
I was born to speak all mirth and no matter....
Epignosis wrote:Bitch, my identity is my identity theft protection!
Okay, if there are two mafia left, I'd say Matt is one of them. I need to sleep.
Yeah you did. That was the crazy game where MP got lynched Day 1, and exposed 2 of his 3 teammates in the process, you and Elohcin, who were lynched on Day 2 and Day 3.
Oh, that's a game I'm repressing, LOL. I blame MP :P
FZ. wrote:I'm just going to leave this out here for your enjoyment:
MacDougall wrote:
Sorsha wrote:By asking you and Matthew questions I did I am trying to get a handle on the situation. And you're going to refuse to answer?
Lol I'm not refusing I just want your opinions.
Fine but if you don't follow it up I will shake my fist at you.
Here's where I'm at...
I believe I have deduced the civilian alignment of all but two players. Juliets and Metalmarsh. I can't elaborate on how but I can say that the one I am most certain of is Motel Room, especially in light of how yesterday went down. I am quite sure of Matt and FZ and by extension you. Bea, despite being wrong about Wilgy, I am sure is civilian because of LC related reasons. That one he definitely got right, he must have. I don't believe that there are 2 scum left. I believe there is 1. 2 wouldn't make any sense mathematically. I believe that it is far more likely to be Metalmarsh.
If I am wrong about the Marmot, juliets must be lynched tomorrow. I will be the most likely to be killed tonight if the game doesn't end with a Marmot lynch. If he is not the last bad guy it is without doubt juliets. Look back at her interactions with Zebra if you need to find a case but tbh it's primarily from deduction.
Linki: Lol there you go.
Do you think, that as scum, I would make such a gloriously incorrect post when I would at that point actually KNOW every single thing?
I think this post is about the civviest post in the game. So thanks for posting it.
FZ. wrote:I'm just going to leave this out here for your enjoyment:
MacDougall wrote:
Sorsha wrote:By asking you and Matthew questions I did I am trying to get a handle on the situation. And you're going to refuse to answer?
Lol I'm not refusing I just want your opinions.
Fine but if you don't follow it up I will shake my fist at you.
Here's where I'm at...
I believe I have deduced the civilian alignment of all but two players. Juliets and Metalmarsh. I can't elaborate on how but I can say that the one I am most certain of is Motel Room, especially in light of how yesterday went down. I am quite sure of Matt and FZ and by extension you. Bea, despite being wrong about Wilgy, I am sure is civilian because of LC related reasons. That one he definitely got right, he must have. I don't believe that there are 2 scum left. I believe there is 1. 2 wouldn't make any sense mathematically. I believe that it is far more likely to be Metalmarsh.
If I am wrong about the Marmot, juliets must be lynched tomorrow. I will be the most likely to be killed tonight if the game doesn't end with a Marmot lynch. If he is not the last bad guy it is without doubt juliets. Look back at her interactions with Zebra if you need to find a case but tbh it's primarily from deduction.
Linki: Lol there you go.
Do you think, that as scum, I would make such a gloriously incorrect post when I would at that point actually KNOW every single thing?
I think this post is about the civviest post in the game. So thanks for posting it.
If you expected me to get lynched instead of motel room, then absolutely yes I think you would.
Ricochet wrote:It's Night 10. Vote something and own the way you vote.
I've done this much at least.
Metalmarsh are you trying to claim civ now? You don't have to pretend you have our best interests at heart. You have got to the point where you're most likely to just win with either side so you should just stop pissing in our pocket.
You tried to lynch me yesterday, and motel room, the counter lynch, you claimed was civ, flipped bad instead. Why the F are you still trying to cast shade on me?
Bring me an actual case please instead of pushing the fact that I'm neutral/Indy as if nobody has known at all this entire game.
I'm not casting shade on you. I am saying that I don't believe you care about which alignment wins as much as you just want me not to win because I've been calling you on your bullshit the whole time.
There's yet another reason I'm not bad. Metalmarsh (assuming he doesn't die tonight) is going to have the swing vote being the neutral. Wouldn't the scum be sucking up to you hard right now?
FZ. wrote:I'm just going to leave this out here for your enjoyment:
MacDougall wrote:
Sorsha wrote:By asking you and Matthew questions I did I am trying to get a handle on the situation. And you're going to refuse to answer?
Lol I'm not refusing I just want your opinions.
Fine but if you don't follow it up I will shake my fist at you.
Here's where I'm at...
I believe I have deduced the civilian alignment of all but two players. Juliets and Metalmarsh. I can't elaborate on how but I can say that the one I am most certain of is Motel Room, especially in light of how yesterday went down. I am quite sure of Matt and FZ and by extension you. Bea, despite being wrong about Wilgy, I am sure is civilian because of LC related reasons. That one he definitely got right, he must have. I don't believe that there are 2 scum left. I believe there is 1. 2 wouldn't make any sense mathematically. I believe that it is far more likely to be Metalmarsh.
If I am wrong about the Marmot, juliets must be lynched tomorrow. I will be the most likely to be killed tonight if the game doesn't end with a Marmot lynch. If he is not the last bad guy it is without doubt juliets. Look back at her interactions with Zebra if you need to find a case but tbh it's primarily from deduction.
Linki: Lol there you go.
Do you think, that as scum, I would make such a gloriously incorrect post when I would at that point actually KNOW every single thing?
I think this post is about the civviest post in the game. So thanks for posting it.
If you expected me to get lynched instead of motel room, then absolutely yes I think you would.
Well I did expect that to happen, on account of you having the most votes on the poll. I cannot argue with that.
I think I'm going to go with option 4. It seems like it's been one of our safe options all game, it's one that bea likes (and I think she's civ) and most importantly :P it's a LOST number.
MacDougall wrote:FZ civilians can be wrong. If you are right now about me being bad that means that you were wrong the multiple times you civ read me earlier so to be right you'd need to have gone through the exact thing I've gone through. So don't be a hypocrite.
The difference is, you acted as if some night information that conveniently you can't discuss, helped you learn that Motel is civ, that I am one too, and so forth. Suddenly you're playing the "civvies can be wrong" card? How about civvies lying and making others believe they know something, and then saying the complete opposite?
linki: what MM said. You even made a plan for what will happen if MM comes out what he claims to be. Lynch Juliets
MacDougall wrote:FZ civilians can be wrong. If you are right now about me being bad that means that you were wrong the multiple times you civ read me earlier so to be right you'd need to have gone through the exact thing I've gone through. So don't be a hypocrite.
The difference is, you acted as if some night information that conveniently you can't discuss, helped you learn that Motel is civ, that I am one too, and so forth. Suddenly you're playing the "civvies can be wrong" card? How about civvies lying and making others believe they know something, and then saying the complete opposite?
linki: what MM said. You even made a plan for what will happen if MM comes out what he claims to be. Lynch Juliets
MacDougall wrote:I'm not casting shade on you. I am saying that I don't believe you care about which alignment wins as much as you just want me not to win because I've been calling you on your bullshit the whole time.
There's yet another reason I'm not bad. Metalmarsh (assuming he doesn't die tonight) is going to have the swing vote being the neutral. Wouldn't the scum be sucking up to you hard right now?
That's a convenient suggestion since you are doing the opposite. :P
But no, I don't think they would be that obvious. Not unless they felt they had absolutely nothing else to get them a win, and they definitely wouldn't do it in the night phase, especially if for whatever reason their kill fails.
Sorsha wrote:I think I'm going to go with option 4. It seems like it's been one of our safe options all game, it's one that bea likes (and I think she's civ) and most importantly :P it's a LOST number.
If Ninja actually gets rezzed or sends a message or something of that sort, I'm holding you and bea responsible if civs and if civs gain no advantage whatsoever through this night poll and lose the game.
MacDougall wrote:I'm not casting shade on you. I am saying that I don't believe you care about which alignment wins as much as you just want me not to win because I've been calling you on your bullshit the whole time.
There's yet another reason I'm not bad. Metalmarsh (assuming he doesn't die tonight) is going to have the swing vote being the neutral. Wouldn't the scum be sucking up to you hard right now?
That's a convenient suggestion since you are doing the opposite. :P
But no, I don't think they would be that obvious. Not unless they felt they had absolutely nothing else to get them a win, and they definitely wouldn't do it in the night phase, especially if for whatever reason their kill fails.
Okay well I'm all out of defenses then. Sorry I let y'all down civvies.
MacDougall wrote:FZ civilians can be wrong. If you are right now about me being bad that means that you were wrong the multiple times you civ read me earlier so to be right you'd need to have gone through the exact thing I've gone through. So don't be a hypocrite.
The difference is, you acted as if some night information that conveniently you can't discuss, helped you learn that Motel is civ, that I am one too, and so forth. Suddenly you're playing the "civvies can be wrong" card? How about civvies lying and making others believe they know something, and then saying the complete opposite?
linki: what MM said. You even made a plan for what will happen if MM comes out what he claims to be. Lynch Juliets
So you don't think MM is bad, just that he doesn't care who wins. You're not interested in lynching an actual baddie but rather rely on lynching MM, and all you can do to defend yourself is shrug. Yeah, nice job of convincing me you're good.
MacDougall wrote:FZ civilians can be wrong. If you are right now about me being bad that means that you were wrong the multiple times you civ read me earlier so to be right you'd need to have gone through the exact thing I've gone through. So don't be a hypocrite.
The difference is, you acted as if some night information that conveniently you can't discuss, helped you learn that Motel is civ, that I am one too, and so forth. Suddenly you're playing the "civvies can be wrong" card? How about civvies lying and making others believe they know something, and then saying the complete opposite?
linki: what MM said. You even made a plan for what will happen if MM comes out what he claims to be. Lynch Juliets
So you don't think MM is bad, just that he doesn't care who wins. You're not interested in lynching an actual baddie but rather rely on lynching MM, and all you can do to defend yourself is shrug. Yeah, nice job of convincing me you're good.
Ahhh epiphany... FZ and Matt are responsible for misleading me through scum role shenanigans and are now bringing out all the instances of me perpetuating their lies into the thread and have me on the ropes in the twelfth round. Very well played guys. They will sing songs of you in Mafia halls nationwide.
MacDougall wrote:Ahhh epiphany... FZ and Matt are responsible for misleading me through scum role shenanigans and are now bringing out all the instances of me perpetuating their lies into the thread and have me on the ropes in the twelfth round. Very well played guys. They will sing songs of you in Mafia halls nationwide.
FZ I don't need to convince you, I need to convince the remaining civilian who isn't killed tonight, whoever that may be. I am hoping it's bea. And I hope Metalmarsh flips a coin and chooses to vote the way I do. But I realise my situation is pretty much dire and congratulate the scum for tricking me so well.
MacDougall wrote:I'm not casting shade on you. I am saying that I don't believe you care about which alignment wins as much as you just want me not to win because I've been calling you on your bullshit the whole time.
There's yet another reason I'm not bad. Metalmarsh (assuming he doesn't die tonight) is going to have the swing vote being the neutral. Wouldn't the scum be sucking up to you hard right now?
That's a convenient suggestion since you are doing the opposite. :P
But no, I don't think they would be that obvious. Not unless they felt they had absolutely nothing else to get them a win, and they definitely wouldn't do it in the night phase, especially if for whatever reason their kill fails.
Okay well I'm all out of defenses then. Sorry I let y'all down civvies.
If you are the civilian you claim to be, and you admit that your alignment claims for other players are not accurate, I think you should reconsider your reads on Matt, Sorsha, and bea.
Assuming there are two baddies left, who do you think they are?
MacDougall wrote:Ahhh epiphany... FZ and Matt are responsible for misleading me through scum role shenanigans and are now bringing out all the instances of me perpetuating their lies into the thread and have me on the ropes in the twelfth round. Very well played guys. They will sing songs of you in Mafia halls nationwide.
MacDougall wrote:I'm not casting shade on you. I am saying that I don't believe you care about which alignment wins as much as you just want me not to win because I've been calling you on your bullshit the whole time.
There's yet another reason I'm not bad. Metalmarsh (assuming he doesn't die tonight) is going to have the swing vote being the neutral. Wouldn't the scum be sucking up to you hard right now?
That's a convenient suggestion since you are doing the opposite. :P
But no, I don't think they would be that obvious. Not unless they felt they had absolutely nothing else to get them a win, and they definitely wouldn't do it in the night phase, especially if for whatever reason their kill fails.
Okay well I'm all out of defenses then. Sorry I let y'all down civvies.
If you are the civilian you claim to be, and you admit that your alignment claims for other players are not accurate, I think you should reconsider your reads on Matt, Sorsha, and bea.
Assuming there are two baddies left, who do you think they are?
FZ and Matt. I think I figured it out but my reason for it is going to be too hard for anybody to believe so meh.
MacDougall wrote:FZ I don't need to convince you, I need to convince the remaining civilian who isn't killed tonight, whoever that may be. I am hoping it's bea. And I hope Metalmarsh flips a coin and chooses to vote the way I do. But I realise my situation is pretty much dire and congratulate the scum for tricking me so well.