Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]

[DharmaHelper]

What is it about Zebra that makes people want to have wall post battles with her...

Fucking seriously.

You started it.

Voicing suspicion of someone is starting a discussion, not a wall post battle where the priority isn't communication but gibberish.

You saw my Game of Champions posts.

[a2thezebra]

Like, I don't articulate myself very well very often. Fine. But I fucking try. I try to get people to understand and if anyone has a concern no matter how many or how much, I try to address them, even if I feel like it's something I've already addressed and explained as many times in as many different ways as I can conceive of. But when I feel like the same isn't being done for me, it kills my motivation to keep putting in this effort. Because where is it getting me?

I don't understand how someone can spend an hour and a half writing a post addressed to someone to explain their suspicion of them and not only have it not acknowledged but then that person has the nerve to demand that the person that put in that effort start answering their questions as if they haven't already done that, while constantly misrepresenting that person.

[Turnip Head]

All I got from this is that DH does not deny he hasn't contributed, but has a lot to say in defense of his non contribution.

[DharmaHelper]

All I got from this is that DH does not deny he hasn't contributed, but has a lot to say in defense of his non contribution.

I'd call this accurate. My non-contribution isn't nefarious, and starting today I plan on rectifying it. I just don't like being accused of being disingenuous, because I'm fully ingenuous.

[Marmot]

Votes are not changeable in this poll.

[DharmaHelper]

Votes are not changeable in this poll.

Thanks for confirming.

[Marmot]

Votes are not changeable in this poll.

Thanks for confirming.

I probably could have read the rules first, but rules schmules.

[DharmaHelper]

Why did you vote for a2?

[DrWilgy]

Why do we fall Marmot friend?

[Marmot]

Why did you vote for a2?

Last I talked to her, she had made roughly 100 posts in the thread, yet said she had no idea what's going on.

[Marmot]

Why do we fall Marmot friend?

I don't understand. I am still upright.

[Turnip Head]

Why did you vote for a2?

I think he thinks we're playing Battleship.

[Marmot]

Why did you vote for a2?

I think he thinks we're playing Battleship.

More like Battleshit.

[Turnip Head]

Why do we fall Marmot friend?

I don't understand. I am still upright.

That's now two people who haven't understood this reference

[DharmaHelper]

Why do we fall Marmot friend?

I don't understand. I am still upright.

That's now two people who haven't understood this reference

[Marmot]

Why do we fall Marmot friend?

I don't understand. I am still upright.

That's now two people who haven't understood this reference

I'll just quietly sit here not knowing what you're talking about.

Linki: Watari > Alfred tbqh

[DFaraday]

So by the end of Day 0 we have like five feuds simmering already.

As far as the TH thing, it seems he was caught between a rock and a hard place. Scylla and Charybdis, if you will. If he said "we" someone will say he's trying too hard to seem civ (which Mac did). If he said "they" someone would say "Why aren't you including yourself in the civs?" So that's not suspicious to me. I know that, as both a civ and baddie, I've considered how to phrase things like that so that people won't jump on my wording.

As for Golden and Enrique, I'm reading them both as civ right now, but agree more with Enrique's viewpoint concerning Independents. It is clearly within the town's best interest to hunt inmates as well as Mafia.

The Matt/Zebra thing got away from me, so I need to look at that again tomorrow. So far what I do think about it is that it's a bit of a fool's errand to try to ascribe particular meaning to poll options, especially in a poll in which none of the players have info. Speaking of...

Hosts: Are we permitted to discuss the results of our poll choices?

MM, that's an awfully early vote. As someone who lately keeps getting lynched for voting early, I can tell you that usually doesn't end well.

[Golden]

As for Golden and Enrique, I'm reading them both as civ right now, but agree more with Enrique's viewpoint concerning Independents. It is clearly within the town's best interest to hunt inmates as well as Mafia.

Not that I want to start a fight about this again, but this perspective means you agree with ME.

This is important, because the only reason I suspect Enrique at all is that his early posts seemed like they were shutting out the importance of getting mafia. Neither of us ever were against hunting inmates.

[DFaraday]

As for Golden and Enrique, I'm reading them both as civ right now, but agree more with Enrique's viewpoint concerning Independents. It is clearly within the town's best interest to hunt inmates as well as Mafia.

Not that I want to start a fight about this again, but this perspective means you agree with ME.

This is important, because the only reason I suspect Enrique at all is that his early posts seemed like they were shutting out the importance of getting mafia. Neither of us ever were against hunting inmates.

Okay, then I agree with you both. I didn't get that feeling from his posts, it all seemed more like miscommunication to me.

[Golden]

As for Golden and Enrique, I'm reading them both as civ right now, but agree more with Enrique's viewpoint concerning Independents. It is clearly within the town's best interest to hunt inmates as well as Mafia.

Not that I want to start a fight about this again, but this perspective means you agree with ME.

This is important, because the only reason I suspect Enrique at all is that his early posts seemed like they were shutting out the importance of getting mafia. Neither of us ever were against hunting inmates.

Okay, then I agree with you both. I didn't get that feeling from his posts, it all seemed more like miscommunication to me.

I don't really know why Enrique found my first post suspicious... or if he would read it differently now. But I agree it was miscommunication. I feel ok about Enrique, the whole exchange made me feel he was being genuine, the longer it went on the more genuine it felt.

[Golden]

Hosts: Are we permitted to discuss the results of our poll choices?

It doesn't answer your question, but I do note this:

14. Talking about the map is allowed, but not in your best interest.

In Dune, I remember Epi designed items that, if you talked about them, you might give potential win con information to others like independents and baddies.

[Sorsha]

So by the end of Day 0 we have like five feuds simmering already.

As far as the TH thing, it seems he was caught between a rock and a hard place. Scylla and Charybdis, if you will. If he said "we" someone will say he's trying too hard to seem civ (which Mac did). If he said "they" someone would say "Why aren't you including yourself in the civs?" So that's not suspicious to me. I know that, as both a civ and baddie, I've considered how to phrase things like that so that people won't jump on my wording.

This is how I feel about the "we/they" situation also. There was more to Mac's suspicion of TH though, this was just the latest bit.

Matt/zebra, golden/Enrique all seem to stem from miscommunications, am I correct thinking that?

[Sorsha]

Civvie behavior is hard to define because we pretty much always act irrationally.

You went out of your way to write "we" here.

No I didn't.

I believe that you did. I think you went out of your way to call yourself a civ when the natural way to phrase that sentence would be to refer to civs as "they" but you were worried that someone would find it scummy for you to refer to civilians as that and didn't want to defend from a dumb comment. It's an irksome sentence. At best case scenario it's fluff content that you've created for the purpose of telling us you're a civilian.

Dunno, Sorsha slipped and said "you civs" in GOC and I correctly caught that.

Doesn't really matter for this game but if you or anyone else wants to add it to their "Sorsha meta" that wasn't a slip. I wasn't a civ and I tried really hard to not refer to myself as a civ, I wanted it known that I was a neutral role... hence me always saying "you're wrong DH, I'm not bad" instead of "you're wrong DH, I'm a civ." I'm not sure if anyone got it though.

[Scotty]

Well last time I received info about something in an Epi game, it uselessly turned out to just be Rico futzing with my head...so I'm going to patently ignore it for the time being.

Now all I have are the voices in my head. And they're telling me that

a) zebra's comment about text walls spoke to me. I used to always post in walls, and seeing said walls in action during this 20-something-page day 0-1, Im now transitioning to a more liquid finish.
b) There's still some people that haven't checked in. That's unsettling to me more than the inane barking throughout the thread.

[Glorfindel]

Well, 20 pages in and I'm not much the wiser. I don't know a lot of the players here (well, not well anyway) but from the time I have spent here, I'd draw one conclusion. I played with Zebra in Star Wars and I saw a really slick performance from a very confident operator who always seemed in control. In Pikmin, I saw Zebra as a very transparent Townie who was picked off early by the twin forces of evil and ignorance. This game, I'm getting Pikmin vibes from her again. She's playing demonstrably differently to how she did in Star Wars and while it's possible that she is simply using her extraordinary ability to pull the wool over my eyes, I'm inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt. I'm simply not getting bad vibes from her at this stage.

Like, I don't articulate myself very well very often. Fine. But I fucking try. I try to get people to understand and if anyone has a concern no matter how many or how much, I try to address them, even if I feel like it's something I've already addressed and explained as many times in as many different ways as I can conceive of. But when I feel like the same isn't being done for me, it kills my motivation to keep putting in this effort. Because where is it getting me?

I don't understand how someone can spend an hour and a half writing a post addressed to someone to explain their suspicion of them and not only have it not acknowledged but then that person has the nerve to demand that the person that put in that effort start answering their questions as if they haven't already done that, while constantly misrepresenting that person.

I know this is probably a stupid thing to say but you sound really frustrated here Zebra. I understand why and try not to worry - not everyone is oblivious to your efforts. Whilst it'd be a disaster if you were Mafia, I think you're a huge asset to us if you're not and I for one would like to give you the the chance to help us win this

[Golden]

Well, 20 pages in and I'm not much the wiser. I don't know a lot of the players here (well, not well anyway) but from the time I have spent here, I'd draw one conclusion. I played with Zebra in Star Wars and I saw a really slick performance from a very confident operator who always seemed in control. In Pikmin, I saw Zebra as a very transparent Townie who was picked off early by the twin forces of evil and ignorance. This game, I'm getting Pikmin vibes from her again. She's playing demonstrably differently to how she did in Star Wars and while it's possible that she is simply using her extraordinary ability to pull the wool over my eyes, I'm inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt. I'm simply not getting bad vibes from her at this stage.

I agree with this entirely.

[Scotty]

Well, 20 pages in and I'm not much the wiser. I don't know a lot of the players here (well, not well anyway) but from the time I have spent here, I'd draw one conclusion. I played with Zebra in Star Wars and I saw a really slick performance from a very confident operator who always seemed in control. In Pikmin, I saw Zebra as a very transparent Townie who was picked off early by the twin forces of evil and ignorance. This game, I'm getting Pikmin vibes from her again. She's playing demonstrably differently to how she did in Star Wars and while it's possible that she is simply using her extraordinary ability to pull the wool over my eyes, I'm inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt. I'm simply not getting bad vibes from her at this stage.

Like, I don't articulate myself very well very often. Fine. But I fucking try. I try to get people to understand and if anyone has a concern no matter how many or how much, I try to address them, even if I feel like it's something I've already addressed and explained as many times in as many different ways as I can conceive of. But when I feel like the same isn't being done for me, it kills my motivation to keep putting in this effort. Because where is it getting me?

I don't understand how someone can spend an hour and a half writing a post addressed to someone to explain their suspicion of them and not only have it not acknowledged but then that person has the nerve to demand that the person that put in that effort start answering their questions as if they haven't already done that, while constantly misrepresenting that person.

I know this is probably a stupid thing to say but you sound really frustrated here Zebra. I understand why and try not to worry - not everyone is oblivious to your efforts. Whilst it'd be a disaster if you were Mafia, I think you're a huge asset to us if you're not and I for one would like to give you the the chance to help us win this

Man, you bounced back from your down day yesterday:

I voted City Hall for a couple of reasons. Firstly, I've no idea at all what the hell I'm doing in this game and being the 'outsider' I always seem to be, it seems appropriate for me to select such a location. At 13 pages, this game has gotten so far away from me now... I just can't...

And I had such high hopes for this game... I'm sorry guys...

Glad to see you're back and encouraging others to fight the good fight!

So you see Zebra as good. Anyone here you see as bad-read yet?

[Scotty]

Here's something that I have noticed, and am starting to trust least: when people are too nice in the early stages. Knocking on doors, handing out booklets of inner peace. I mean, it's nice to have that energy and environment over the opposite (for sure) but I see that more as indicative of not trying to cause waves. If you're a humpback whale in a kiddie pool, you're gonna make tidal waves, even if you try to turn over slowly.

But Scotty, what if I'm just a nice person looking to pat everyone on the back for doing such a good job and I'm actually civ?

Well cool on you. But I'm not buying it.

(I don't have specific people in mind with this thought process, but I'm getting it out there now before I pass out from this drunken stupor)

[Glorfindel]

Well, 20 pages in and I'm not much the wiser. I don't know a lot of the players here (well, not well anyway) but from the time I have spent here, I'd draw one conclusion. I played with Zebra in Star Wars and I saw a really slick performance from a very confident operator who always seemed in control. In Pikmin, I saw Zebra as a very transparent Townie who was picked off early by the twin forces of evil and ignorance. This game, I'm getting Pikmin vibes from her again. She's playing demonstrably differently to how she did in Star Wars and while it's possible that she is simply using her extraordinary ability to pull the wool over my eyes, I'm inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt. I'm simply not getting bad vibes from her at this stage.

Like, I don't articulate myself very well very often. Fine. But I fucking try. I try to get people to understand and if anyone has a concern no matter how many or how much, I try to address them, even if I feel like it's something I've already addressed and explained as many times in as many different ways as I can conceive of. But when I feel like the same isn't being done for me, it kills my motivation to keep putting in this effort. Because where is it getting me?

I don't understand how someone can spend an hour and a half writing a post addressed to someone to explain their suspicion of them and not only have it not acknowledged but then that person has the nerve to demand that the person that put in that effort start answering their questions as if they haven't already done that, while constantly misrepresenting that person.

I know this is probably a stupid thing to say but you sound really frustrated here Zebra. I understand why and try not to worry - not everyone is oblivious to your efforts. Whilst it'd be a disaster if you were Mafia, I think you're a huge asset to us if you're not and I for one would like to give you the the chance to help us win this

Man, you bounced back from your down day yesterday:

I voted City Hall for a couple of reasons. Firstly, I've no idea at all what the hell I'm doing in this game and being the 'outsider' I always seem to be, it seems appropriate for me to select such a location. At 13 pages, this game has gotten so far away from me now... I just can't...

And I had such high hopes for this game... I'm sorry guys...

Glad to see you're back and encouraging others to fight the good fight!

So you see Zebra as good. Anyone here you see as bad-read yet?

Yes. I'm sorry, so very sorry. The last few days haven't been good for me personally but it's amazing what a good night's sleep and som straight-talking can do. And thank you for your support I said I'd try and I don't want to let you guys down any more than I already have.

There seems to be a number of players (not unlike myself) that don't seem to have made much of an impression yet so I'd like to hear some more from them. The one person I'm looking closely at right now is Matt. Please don't get me wrong - he's a really lovely guy and I do respect him and his opinions a lot. I am concerned though - based on my (admittedly limited) experience of him in previous games, his performance this game appears uncharacteristicly rattled. I can accept that his judgement may be way off again like it was in Pikmin but his behaviour seems noticeably more 'hostile' than I've seen from him before...

[Sorsha]

Here's something that I have noticed, and am starting to trust least: when people are too nice in the early stages. Knocking on doors, handing out booklets of inner peace. I mean, it's nice to have that energy and environment over the opposite (for sure) but I see that more as indicative of not trying to cause waves. If you're a humpback whale in a kiddie pool, you're gonna make tidal waves, even if you try to turn over slowly.

But Scotty, what if I'm just a nice person looking to pat everyone on the back for doing such a good job and I'm actually civ?

Well cool on you. But I'm not buying it.

(I don't have specific people in mind with this thought process, but I'm getting it out there now before I pass out from this drunken stupor)

Yeah... Because people being too nice to one another is really a problem we have around here

Mac- other than his case against sig and his use of we vs. they, is there anything else about TH that you found suspicious?

[MacDougall]

I never said his sig case was sus. Tone.

[MacDougall]

I never said his sig case was sus. Tone.

Oh wait that was him. Forgive me I am le tired.

[S~V~S]

Well, 20 pages in and I'm not much the wiser. I don't know a lot of the players here (well, not well anyway) but from the time I have spent here, I'd draw one conclusion. I played with Zebra in Star Wars and I saw a really slick performance from a very confident operator who always seemed in control. In Pikmin, I saw Zebra as a very transparent Townie who was picked off early by the twin forces of evil and ignorance. This game, I'm getting Pikmin vibes from her again. She's playing demonstrably differently to how she did in Star Wars and while it's possible that she is simply using her extraordinary ability to pull the wool over my eyes, I'm inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt. I'm simply not getting bad vibes from her at this stage.

Like, I don't articulate myself very well very often. Fine. But I fucking try. I try to get people to understand and if anyone has a concern no matter how many or how much, I try to address them, even if I feel like it's something I've already addressed and explained as many times in as many different ways as I can conceive of. But when I feel like the same isn't being done for me, it kills my motivation to keep putting in this effort. Because where is it getting me?

I don't understand how someone can spend an hour and a half writing a post addressed to someone to explain their suspicion of them and not only have it not acknowledged but then that person has the nerve to demand that the person that put in that effort start answering their questions as if they haven't already done that, while constantly misrepresenting that person.

I know this is probably a stupid thing to say but you sound really frustrated here Zebra. I understand why and try not to worry - not everyone is oblivious to your efforts. Whilst it'd be a disaster if you were Mafia, I think you're a huge asset to us if you're not and I for one would like to give you the the chance to help us win this

So you read the whole thread? Awesome

Fresh eyes are a good thing. I see you have strong opinions on this one situation; do you have any thoughts on Enrique vs Golden? Golden played Star Wars. What about Mac & TH? Did it read like a slip to you? All of these things took over the thread for a time. You have commented fairly in depth on one; I would appreciate your thoughts on the others.

While I am still waffled on Zebra, I feel pretty much the opposite to you regarding Matt. Having just hosted him bad, I will say that him jumping out the gate and speaking his mind is very par for the course for civ Matt. He knows he may frustrate people, but he dowesn't just speak his piece, he OWNS his piece. He takes that piece andhe does the cha cha on it. Bad Matt was a bitmore cautious about going full out until endgame. Not seeing that here.

I was also fairly involved in that situation, at least at the beginning. Any opinion on me? My thoughts on Zebra were pretty much really similar to Matts. Since your one towen read, Zebra, and your one bad read, Matt, come from the same situation, I would be interested in hearing your opinion as well.

Taking a break was good, and the second half of Day Zero with my unchangeable vote already made seemed like a good time [/hissy]

I did not and do not find anything odd about THs word choices. I have seen people lambasted for "trying too hard" by saying "we", and also seen them attacked for saying "they", like, "Oh aren't you a civ, that you talk about 'them' in the third person?". And his reaction was more inline with what I would expect from him as a civ. He would have been smoother & shrugged it off more had he been bad, I think.

That said, I trust Macs tone reads, in the games I have played with him, I have seen him to have a good gut. So not particularly suspecting TH, but will keep more of an eye on him than I may have done. I am not one to discuss who I trust, but if I did have oneof those lists, while TH would not be the top name, hewould be very far from the bottom. Mac, too, really.

Now that you have done so, Glorfindel, I need to reread the thread some today to clear out my preconceived notions.

[Epignosis]

Hosts: Are we permitted to discuss the results of our poll choices?

Permitted? Knock yourself out.

[Glorfindel]

Well, 20 pages in and I'm not much the wiser. I don't know a lot of the players here (well, not well anyway) but from the time I have spent here, I'd draw one conclusion. I played with Zebra in Star Wars and I saw a really slick performance from a very confident operator who always seemed in control. In Pikmin, I saw Zebra as a very transparent Townie who was picked off early by the twin forces of evil and ignorance. This game, I'm getting Pikmin vibes from her again. She's playing demonstrably differently to how she did in Star Wars and while it's possible that she is simply using her extraordinary ability to pull the wool over my eyes, I'm inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt. I'm simply not getting bad vibes from her at this stage.

Like, I don't articulate myself very well very often. Fine. But I fucking try. I try to get people to understand and if anyone has a concern no matter how many or how much, I try to address them, even if I feel like it's something I've already addressed and explained as many times in as many different ways as I can conceive of. But when I feel like the same isn't being done for me, it kills my motivation to keep putting in this effort. Because where is it getting me?

I don't understand how someone can spend an hour and a half writing a post addressed to someone to explain their suspicion of them and not only have it not acknowledged but then that person has the nerve to demand that the person that put in that effort start answering their questions as if they haven't already done that, while constantly misrepresenting that person.

I know this is probably a stupid thing to say but you sound really frustrated here Zebra. I understand why and try not to worry - not everyone is oblivious to your efforts. Whilst it'd be a disaster if you were Mafia, I think you're a huge asset to us if you're not and I for one would like to give you the the chance to help us win this

So you read the whole thread? Awesome

Fresh eyes are a good thing. I see you have strong opinions on this one situation; do you have any thoughts on Enrique vs Golden? Golden played Star Wars. What about Mac & TH? Did it read like a slip to you? All of these things took over the thread for a time. You have commented fairly in depth on one; I would appreciate your thoughts on the others.

While I am still waffled on Zebra, I feel pretty much the opposite to you regarding Matt. Having just hosted him bad, I will say that him jumping out the gate and speaking his mind is very par for the course for civ Matt. He knows he may frustrate people, but he dowesn't just speak his piece, he OWNS his piece. He takes that piece andhe does the cha cha on it. Bad Matt was a bitmore cautious about going full out until endgame. Not seeing that here.

I was also fairly involved in that situation, at least at the beginning. Any opinion on me? My thoughts on Zebra were pretty much really similar to Matts. Since your one towen read, Zebra, and your one bad read, Matt, come from the same situation, I would be interested in hearing your opinion as well.

Taking a break was good, and the second half of Day Zero with my unchangeable vote already made seemed like a good time [/hissy]

I did not and do not find anything odd about THs word choices. I have seen people lambasted for "trying too hard" by saying "we", and also seen them attacked for saying "they", like, "Oh aren't you a civ, that you talk about 'them' in the third person?". And his reaction was more inline with what I would expect from him as a civ. He would have been smoother & shrugged it off more had he been bad, I think.

That said, I trust Macs tone reads, in the games I have played with him, I have seen him to have a good gut. So not particularly suspecting TH, but will keep more of an eye on him than I may have done. I am not one to discuss who I trust, but if I did have oneof those lists, while TH would not be the top name, hewould be very far from the bottom. Mac, too, really.

Now that you have done so, Glorfindel, I need to reread the thread some today to clear out my preconceived notions.

Thank you for replying to my post my friend . I acknowledge your opinion on Matt and that it appears to be different to mine. You may indeed be in a better position to judge than I but I can only speak from my experience. I agree with you on one point though, he DOES own his piece - even when he's wrong, which I feel at this point he is about Zebra.

As for Mac and TH, I really don't know. From the little I've seen of TH I think he's too experienced and capable to have made that kind of silly mistake. From my experience in these games on other sites (and I speak from first hand experience) I know precisely what it's like to be so convinced that someone is Mafia based on a 'slip' like that only on the vast majority of occasions to be proven wrong. Like the King of Siam in the King and I, I find myself second guessing myself a lot more these days. I may have missed the Golden/Enrique confrontation of which you speak and will go back and have a look. I'll admit I kinda like Golden (from my experience of them in Star Wars and so far here) but again, I need to review this matter. Please don't think I'm clearing people here with some kind of gay abandon - because I'm not. I'm not familiar with the playstyles of most of you and am not stupid enough to do that. My approach in these games is usually cautious as it is right now. I trust you can appreciate that.

[S~V~S]

Well couched and careful reply. I applaud you.

I am surprised you managed to read the thread and miss Golden & Enrique. Also, since you did comment about how frustrated Zebra was, you must have noted that I had some part in that as well as Matt. Maybe you missed where I asked you if you had an opinion as to my part in those goings on.

I know some people view Day Zero as a throwaway day and don't post much; I hope to hear more from them now that it is Day One

And since we can discuss the Zero poll results, I look forward to hearing the thoughts of the Arkham voters. All I learned was that cops in a busy crime ridden city like this are generally busy

[Typhoony]

Are you suspicious of Glorfindel SVS?

[Dom]

Well last time I received info about something in an Epi game, it uselessly turned out to just be Rico futzing with my head...so I'm going to patently ignore it for the time being.

Now all I have are the voices in my head. And they're telling me that

a) zebra's comment about text walls spoke to me. I used to always post in walls, and seeing said walls in action during this 20-something-page day 0-1, Im now transitioning to a more liquid finish.
b) There's still some people that haven't checked in. That's unsettling to me more than the inane barking throughout the thread.

#1. Which players' absence are unsettling to you? Do you think they're bad hiding in a chat room? Do you think they don't know the game's started?

#2. You, in a later post, asked Glorfindel to share their thoughts on who might be bad, but I don't see you offering the same specific opinions. Can you?

[S~V~S]

Are you suspicious of Glorfindel SVS?

I am not sure, tbh. I was just intrigued by his reaction to having read the thread. There was alot of tunnel type stuff and some quite a bit of tension at some points going on, and he only noted one thing, and his opinion on that seemed a bit one dimensional.

His reply was very well crafted; and tbh, it felt kind of *crafted* to me, if you get my feeling~ designed to appease. I can't be anywhere near sure at this point; he is unfailingly polite and I don't know him well, so have no basis of comparison. SO my initial thought, intrigued, best fits my feelings at this time, I think.

Do you have an opinion?

[Dom]

(Yes, Scotty, I remember you had a one line suspicion of MP)

snipped for relevance

I think MP is not looking not civvie. And before you ask why, I don't know. gut? Sorry.

I am still looking to vote for no/low-posters for day 1, like usual. Because it's still too early for me to accuse.

But why the contradiction of suspecting MP, yet wanting to look at people who aren't participating?

[Dom]

SVS, do you know if Glorfindel is from the US?

[S~V~S]

SVS, do you know if Glorfindel is from the US?

I have no idea where he is from, why?

[Dom]

SVS, do you know if Glorfindel is from the US?

I have no idea where he is from, why?

Given the time of day, I'm not sure help would be available from US residents.

[S~V~S]

Help?

[Dom]

Help?

I guess I'm reading too far into the word "crafted"?

[S~V~S]

I am sure he is capable of crafting a carefully worded post on his own? And he did it while quite a few people were online, so yeah, maybe a tad, lol.

[Dom]

I am sure he is capable of crafting a carefully worded post on his own? And he did it while quite a few people were online, so yeah, maybe a tad, lol.

I don't think he isn't, but I thought you were insinuating BTSC.

[S~V~S]

No I was insinuating that he was very, very careful with his wording, and that's about it.

And to reiterate, maybe you are reading into it just a tad.

[Typhoony]

Are you suspicious of Glorfindel SVS?

I am not sure, tbh. I was just intrigued by his reaction to having read the thread. There was alot of tunnel type stuff and some quite a bit of tension at some points going on, and he only noted one thing, and his opinion on that seemed a bit one dimensional.

His reply was very well crafted; and tbh, it felt kind of *crafted* to me, if you get my feeling~ designed to appease. I can't be anywhere near sure at this point; he is unfailingly polite and I don't know him well, so have no basis of comparison. SO my initial thought, intrigued, best fits my feelings at this time, I think.

Do you have an opinion?

I'm not suspicious of him atm. He is posting similarly to the Pikmin game. His posts there also seemed designed to appease, to be polite, and he was civ there.

[S~V~S]

OK, good to know. I don't have any experience of him as a player, but having seen him play as a game mod, I think that that is probably a fair assessment. I think it got my attention that in that whole clusterfuck of a Day Zero, only one thing caught his eye.