Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]

[juliets]

sig is my number one suspect.

Can you just do a quick bullet point list on why sig? Maybe I missed it in this wacky night but all the conversation I saw was about TH, Enrique, Zebra and Matt.

[Tangrowth]

I think this was a good night!

Lol Gordon's message is great. I'm glad Harvey got Zebra, but know we don't know who she is.

No mafia night kill though?

Hosts can a blocker block the mafias nightkill?

The Riddler?

This was my thought after reading the night post as well.


Also, I still can't believe Alex wants to be replaced despite having more than 200 plus posts in the thread.

Not sure I want to be replaced anymore. :P

Also, sig is my number one suspect.

[Enrique]

I think this was a good night!

Lol Gordon's message is great. I'm glad Harvey got Zebra, but know we don't know who she is.

No mafia night kill though?

Hosts can a blocker block the mafias nightkill?

The Riddler?

This was my thought after reading the night post as well.


Also, I still can't believe Alex wants to be replaced despite having more than 200 plus posts in the thread.

Can you explain the Riddler thing?

sig has been getting away with being bad for too long He's also my number one suspect, but I think there's a great chance MP was Nero's teammate.

[Tangrowth]

Hey, MP.

Feeling engaged yet?

Hmmmm... more so than before, yeah.

Maybe I should vote for sig... he is my number one suspect after all.

[Marmot]

Hey, MP.

Feeling engaged yet?

He's married bruh.

[Tangrowth]

sig is my number one suspect.

Can you just do a quick bullet point list on why sig? Maybe I missed it in this wacky night but all the conversation I saw was about TH, Enrique, Zebra and Matt.

1) He's my number one suspect
2) The Wilgy thing
3) He's my number one suspect
4) And stuff

[Tangrowth]

Wait a second, how the hell do I have over 200 posts?

And how is it more than sig, who is my number one suspect?

[Enrique]

sig is my number one suspect.

Can you just do a quick bullet point list on why sig? Maybe I missed it in this wacky night but all the conversation I saw was about TH, Enrique, Zebra and Matt.

1) He's my number one suspect
2) The Wilgy thing
3) He's my number one suspect
4) And stuff

Man I'm really itching to lynch this guy.

[DharmaHelper]

sig is my number one suspect.

Can you just do a quick bullet point list on why sig? Maybe I missed it in this wacky night but all the conversation I saw was about TH, Enrique, Zebra and Matt.

1) He's my number one suspect
2) The Wilgy thing
3) He's my number one suspect
4) And stuff

Man I'm really itching to lynch this guy.

Sig or MP?

[Enrique]

sig is my number one suspect

[Marmot]

OMFG!!! My fat finger slipped! I meant to vote sig, but I voted Scotty.

[Golden]

Right know I'm mainly looking at DH, his interaction with Nero didn't look good at all. After him maybe MP.

@Golden why Enrique over DH/MP?

Here is what I see in Enrique.

1) Early day zero. I'm back to thinking my first instinct was correct. Enrique was trying to point everyone in the direction of the inmates at exclusion of the mafia. This is why he sussed me early for pointing out that the inmates weren't the mafia and that we needed to keep our mind on both. I let him talk down my first instinct, but I'm back to believing it is correct.

2) Yesterday's lynch, his turn around didn't feel entirely genuine to me. My suspicion as to why... Enrique is on team Nero. His team figures out a theory that Matt is Batman, and suddenly realises that if Matt is lynched and comes back Batman, Nero is probably going down right afterwards. So, the best option is to bus his own teammate, and get civ cred in the process. Others have already pointed out some posts by Enrique that appear deliberately designed to get cred.

3) Last night's TH case - Enrique realises that the TH/Matt thing may not be all it seems. He feels pissed that he has possibly been duped by TH, so with reckless disregard to the possibility Matt and TH are actually Batman and Alfred, he sets out to take TH down for hinting at Alfred. However, to me, the whole thing comes across not as a proper suspicion, well reasoned, because it is full of holes. To me, it comes across as Enrique being mad that TH duped him into bussing his own teammate.

I think Enrique is a teammate of Nero. I think Matt has that one correct.

[sig]

sig is my number one suspect.

Can you just do a quick bullet point list on why sig? Maybe I missed it in this wacky night but all the conversation I saw was about TH, Enrique, Zebra and Matt.

juliets there is no "case" agaisnt me which is why neither MP or Enrique are giving you bullet points for all the bad things I've done. Zebra pushed my lynch over Neroa mafia member, and if MP is being serious I know exactly what he is doing and it isn't cool.

[Enrique]

Others have already pointed out some posts by Enrique that appear deliberately designed to get cred.

Others in your BTSC room?

[sig]

@MP the Wilgy thing which you apologized for and said was an over reaction on your part? That you didn't keep an open mind on and wouldn't have voted for me if you hadn't rushed into things that Wilgy thing? So was that post a lie or did you just forget about that post?

[DharmaHelper]

Sig do you or do you not remember me advocating for Nero's lynch and if so do you also recall who exactly was in the running to get lynched at the time lol

[Marmot]

The host forgot an extra poll option. Don't fuck up you non-players and vote for Typhoony.

Oh, and dead players too. Yeah you zebra.

[Tangrowth]

I also think Enrique is suspicious. I'd like to discuss players who've not been discussed lately too though. What does everyone think of juliets, Lorab, and Typhoony?

All of that said, sig is my number one suspect.

[Golden]

I wonder who MPs number one suspect is

[Tangrowth]

@MP the Wilgy thing which you apologized for and said was an over reaction on your part? That you didn't keep an open mind on and wouldn't have voted for me if you hadn't rushed into things that Wilgy thing? So was that post a lie or did you just forget about that post?

All I'm saying is that you're my number one suspect.

[Marmot]

I also think Enrique is suspicious. I'd like to discuss players who've not been discussed lately too though. What does everyone think of juliets, Lorab, and Typhoony?

All of that said, sig is my number one suspect.

I think the NP's, hosts, and deadies will take care of Typhoony.

We might as well just start discussing Day 4 options.

[Dom]

I think this was a good night!

Lol Gordon's message is great. I'm glad Harvey got Zebra, but know we don't know who she is.

No mafia night kill though?

Hosts can a blocker block the mafias nightkill?

The Riddler?

This was my thought after reading the night post as well.


Also, I still can't believe Alex wants to be replaced despite having more than 200 plus posts in the thread.

Can you explain the Riddler thing?

sig has been getting away with being bad for too long He's also my number one suspect, but I think there's a great chance MP was Nero's teammate.

"riddled" with blood.

I also think Enrique is suspicious. I'd like to discuss players who've not been discussed lately too though. What does everyone think of juliets, Lorab, and Typhoony?

All of that said, sig is my number one suspect.

Reading LoRab as civ. Typh is making me nervous because he's so quiet, but then again, others are much quieter. Overall, nothing solid on Typh bothering me.

Juliets? hard to read.

[DharmaHelper]

I'm sure Enrique is about to bless us with a huge "sig is bad" post that he may or may not go back on two and a half hours before EoD

[Dom]

I have a really hard time buying that MP is having a hard time engaging, is so behind, etc when he has 200+ posts

[sig]

First post addressing the Wilgy thing, and no longer thinking this makes me mafia.

sig, I also wanted to say I apologize if I got too heated when I voted for you yesterday; I was getting increasingly frustrated and knew I'd probably have little time before EoD, and I was very pinged by you in the moment, so I voted for you. I don't regret my vote, but I didn't really have any solid baddie read on anyone else.

Second this one is slightly different here he says he thinks Nero is mafia and not me as an attempt to save nero wouldn't result in lynching me.

Based on the momentum of the thread, I don't think someone who wanted to save Nero was going to vote for sig. I think Matt was a much more likely scapegoat, at least until you changed your mind, Enrique. That might have got Nero's teammates panicking, so I'd say they'd be more likely to bus after you did a 180 and kept harping on it.

It's hard to speculate though; it depends on the person. Looking at interactions between Nero and every player would be more illuminating, I think.

Important part is underlined said he didn't have an open mind about my lynch and just got caught up in the moment. So he basically admitted to being wrong and not having an open mind yet this is his reason for lynching me again. HE HAS ANTI TOWN SENTIMENT IF HE IS REALLY TRYING TO LYNCH ME THIS WILL HURT THE TOWN.


It is so important I'll bold underline and caps it. :P

Yippee! We caught a mafia. Good work Matt. Nero, you are a delightful individual and I hope you will play with us some more. Don't let this discourage you.

Thanks to the hosts for cutting some hours out of the night to get us back to a more reasonable hour for the posts!

linki MP, how are people being closed minded?

People are inevitably being closed-minded this game for multiple reasons: (1) due to the setup, in which roughly half of the players have potentially no reason to conventionally baddie hunt; (2) due to the ridiculously high volume of posting, with the actual content of which mostly comprising strenuous back and forths; and (3) players who do not have adequate time to do anything more than intently read and analyze the thread will inevitably make uninformed decisions, and in a game of this magnitude, thus will never be able to properly consider even half of the living players with proper weight of suspicion.


Regarding (3), one that does not have sufficient time cannot properly examine 29 other players, especially in this game due to (2). That means that certain players will be subjected to the microscope more than other players; it's often an inevitable side effect of games this large, as opposed to Heists where it's very difficult to stay out of the spotlight if the town is actively playing the game. Conversely, it also means that town cannot properly evaluate everyone without pouring ridiculous amounts of effort into trying to spend equal time analyzing every player and it just cannot happen for most people playing this game. Therefore, take Dom for example, he can't stop mentioning my name. Ever since I made one post way back on Day 0 (was it? or was it technically Day 1 by that point?) with my first gut read of the game: him. I added a joke after it saying I can't read him so that it means everyone should lynch him instead. It was a joke. Since then, he pressed me and asked the thread multiple times to talk about how I was "setting him up" or "hedging". He won't even listen to my explanations because he's already made up his mind that I was hedging, even though it's absurd that anyone would later use "I'm never wrong about so and so" clearly stated in joke format as a reason to legitimately change one's mind about that player. Dom is far from the only player who is unwilling to actually listen to the player they are suspecting. Hell, even I did it with sig; I got too caught up in the moment and wasn't giving him the chance. Townies should always stay skeptical, yes, but they need to try to actually connect with and understand where the person they're suspecting is coming from, and should always be open to changing their mind. I consistently get the impression that the majority of players in this game aren't willing to do that. That's fine. It's not easy to do, especially when the game's setup has so many potentially anti-town roles in it.

But that's why I feel this way.

[juliets]

Zebra, I forgot to say RIPIYWG. Hope I see you in another game soon.

[Tangrowth]

Thanks for the answers, Dom. Looking forward to others' input too.

Also, sig is my number ONE SUSPECT!!!!!

[a2thezebra]

The host forgot an extra poll option. Don't fuck up you non-players and vote for Typhoony.

Oh, and dead players too. Yeah you zebra.

Rezz plz

[Tangrowth]

I have a really hard time buying that MP is having a hard time engaging, is so behind, etc when he has 200+ posts

Then lynch me, bro.

Or sig, since he's my number one suspect.

[sig]

I'd be down for an MP lynch right know, just to show you he won't flip as who he is trying to pretend he is.

link: I forgot to RIP zebra hope to play with you again. even though I didn't get to make any Hannibal Lector jokes this game.

[Tangrowth]

sig, I don't take back anything I've said in any of those posts. I can assure you.

But you're my number one suspect!

[sig]

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DharmaHelper (13), Dom (15), Typhoony (22) 9%

One of these three are Penguin or MP is crazy. Thoughts?

[DharmaHelper]

Dat zeebs vote.

[Tangrowth]

I'd be down for an MP lynch right know, just to show you he won't flip as who he is trying to pretend he is.

link: I forgot to RIP zebra hope to play with you again. even though I didn't get to make any Hannibal Lector jokes this game.

Who am I pretending to be, Mr. number one suspect?

[Scotty]

just ran across the DC airport to the terminal on the compete other side and just made my connecting flight. Don't schedule less than 45 minutes between connecting flights, kids. Your feet will thank you. Taxiing on the runway right now.

Well, that's one way to eliminate one of my suspects, though I didn't put to words why I suspected her. But I do think bullock made a good call.

No Mafia kill is a head scratcher. I highly doubt the other Mafia team is down 2 (now 3??) active Mafia members. Though Equiv and Bass have been absent for some time..id err on the idea that they were blocked.

OMFG!!! My fat finger slipped! I meant to vote sig, but I voted Scotty.

one day that will be true, and this joke will cease to be a joke, and I will turn you into a resting parrot pining for the fjords.


Also the fact that MP is suddenly more engaged makes me think he was recruited just now.

[Marmot]

The host forgot an extra poll option. Don't fuck up you non-players and vote for Typhoony.

Oh, and dead players too. Yeah you zebra.

Rezz plz

No! You're dead.

[Tangrowth]

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DharmaHelper (13), Dom (15), Typhoony (22) 9%

One of these three are Penguin or MP is crazy. Thoughts?

I think I'm just crazy.

You're my number one suspect, sig! Don't forget it!

[a2thezebra]

Oh wait I'm actually dead? That last post was a joke since I thought MM was joking about my lynch being sealed. I'll shut up now.

[Golden]

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DharmaHelper (13), Dom (15), Typhoony (22) 9%

One of these three are Penguin or MP is crazy. Thoughts?

There are other options, but I agree with the premise that MP is obliged to say stuff.

@scotty - MP was engaged before the end of that night phase.

[Marmot]

Oh wait I'm actually dead? That last post was a joke since I thought MM was joking about my lynch being sealed. I'll shut up now.

[sig]

I'd be down for an MP lynch right know, just to show you he won't flip as who he is trying to pretend he is.

link: I forgot to RIP zebra hope to play with you again. even though I didn't get to make any Hannibal Lector jokes this game.

Who am I pretending to be, Mr. number one suspect?

Lets see when it comes up.

[a2thezebra]

Sorry about the vote, hosts. At least it's the first so you can start the poll over easily.

[Enrique]

I was gonna do a full ISO post on TH earlier but then I got derailed in my direction and I realized it's kinda pointless. I think he's the Penguin, realized Wilgy was Alfred, led his lynch, sold him to the mafia and claimed his role. Maybe it's a stretch but the ISO convinced me it's just not worth pursuing. Wilgy made exactly one on topic post before EoD, saying he thought TH was bad and he would elaborate later. He also was the second person to ask "why do we fall" in the thread. TH led his lynch, placing the final vote on him to make it a tie, and then Wilgy mysteriously died that night. If people can argue Scotty was in danger the following day, so was Wilgy, I think he was killed because somebody knew his role. It makes sense to me and I'm not really gonna push it because I don't care about it much and sig is my number one suspect today.

[Tangrowth]

I'd be down for an MP lynch right know, just to show you he won't flip as who he is trying to pretend he is.

link: I forgot to RIP zebra hope to play with you again. even though I didn't get to make any Hannibal Lector jokes this game.

Who am I pretending to be, Mr. number one suspect?

Lets see when it comes up.

This is not an acceptable answer. Seriously. You say I'm pretending to be someone, I want to hear who you think it is. Because I'm not pretending anything.

Also, you're my number one suspect.

[Scotty]

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DharmaHelper (13), Dom (15), Typhoony (22) 9%

One of these three are Penguin or MP is crazy. Thoughts?

There are other options, but I agree with the premise that MP is obliged to say stuff.

@scotty - MP was engaged before the end of that night phase.

Ah k thanks for bringing that to my attention. I'm behind about 6 pages. I read in my skimming that someone thought Zebra was ra's al gul? When and how did that come about? I'm about to get in the air.

[Golden]

I'd be down for an MP lynch right know, just to show you he won't flip as who he is trying to pretend he is.

link: I forgot to RIP zebra hope to play with you again. even though I didn't get to make any Hannibal Lector jokes this game.

Who am I pretending to be, Mr. number one suspect?

Lets see when it comes up.

This is not an acceptable answer. Seriously. You say I'm pretending to be someone, I want to hear who you think it is. Because I'm not pretending anything.

Also, you're my number one suspect.

Metalmarsh. Already established in thread so canon.

[Tangrowth]

I'd be down for an MP lynch right know, just to show you he won't flip as who he is trying to pretend he is.

link: I forgot to RIP zebra hope to play with you again. even though I didn't get to make any Hannibal Lector jokes this game.

Who am I pretending to be, Mr. number one suspect?

Lets see when it comes up.

This is not an acceptable answer. Seriously. You say I'm pretending to be someone, I want to hear who you think it is. Because I'm not pretending anything.

Also, you're my number one suspect.

Metalmarsh. Already established in thread so canon.

Oh, well, I won't argue with that.

Also, everyone should vote for sig since he's my number one suspect.

[sig]

The person killed by the vig who tried to save Nero by getting me lynched = Enrique tunneling more. Like I said give me a case Enrique A real one stop using shit from day 0/1 which was such a small part of my overall post count.

Enrique listen, turn around 180 degrees. There is a little light from that huge tunnel you entered day 0 start walking out of the tunnel and back into the real world okay?

[Marmot]

I think MP has been hungered. (wait for it...)

[sig]

The old Power Puff Girls show is really good.