Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]

[DharmaHelper]

I can feel a sabie vote out of Sabie/Spirityo/Mac. So thats where I'm voting.

[juliets]

@juliets

If you honestly, in your gut, etc, know I'm anti town. Then by all means. But if you're (you being everyone here) just looking to vote something, then please reconsider.

I'm voting sabie today. You came out and defended yourself while Sabie came but did not respond to my post. That to me shows signs of guilt, that she just doesnt want to bother with it anymore. Of course thats an assumption but I think it is easily drawn from her behavior.

[Golden]

In my view and from my reading, I feel my vote for MetalMarsh is more than justified at this point.

I keep forgetting MM is even playing. It does remind me somewhat of Dune where he was also bad.

[Matt]

I think Turnip is super sketch and want to vote for him today, but I don't think anyone else in the game is even looking at him. So I'll add one more to the Mac vote.

Off to work, good luck town!

[Golden]

I think Turnip is super sketch and want to vote for him today, but I don't think anyone else in the game is even looking at him. So I'll add one more to the Mac vote.

Off to work, good luck town!

Why Mac? I honestly don't get the Mac votes.

[S~V~S]

Actually, I think I am going to go with Mac, too. I have not seen the crumb, adn don't love how he handled the whole crumb issue. I am certainly not going to vote for DH, and I have thought Mac to be bad longer than I have Sabie (and the case looks good there, too).

[MacDougall]

Pfft.

[MacDougall]

If I die lynch Zebra

Lol I will see to that don't worry.

Here's the crumb btw.

[MacDougall]

Voting for sabie and going back to work

[Golden]

Mac, you shouldn't have done that but I understand why you did.

[MacDougall]

Mac, you shouldn't have done that but I understand why you did.

I'm not getting mod-killed, but at least now the town won't waste a lynch on me.

[Golden]

Mac, you shouldn't have done that but I understand why you did.

I'm not getting mod-killed, but at least now the town won't waste a lynch on me.

I think they might lynch you anyway. See, I left a breadcrumb of my own here

But I think sometimes the right thing to do is ignore your own win con and do what is in the best interests of your faction. This is also why Enrique fundamentally couldn't understand my perspective back on day 0, because he was assuming I would be speaking out of my own self-interest.

I think you may have already picked up on this anyway, since you mentioned you wanted to Scarecrow hunt.

[sabie12]

Sorry for playing poorly. My life's been crazy and my meds cost like 200 dollars and I can't afford them.

[S~V~S]

This is why I hate role hints and relying on them; I have no idea WTF you are talking about here, Golden.

[Golden]

This is why I hate role hints and relying on them; I have no idea WTF you are talking about here, Golden.

Mine is intended for Mac to understand. His might be more self-explanatory.

I think the more relevant question is, why is Mac's behaviour in any way suspicious? What about his crumb hint looked suspicious? Have you seen that tactic used by baddies before? And why was he taking votes on that day in the first place, that necessitated him having to work to defend himself? None of this makes sense to me, in that I just don't understand what people are seeing, because Mac seems very townie this game.

[Turnip Head]

This is why I hate role hints and relying on them; I have no idea WTF you are talking about here, Golden.

Chrysanthemums awarding dime art.

[Golden]

This is why I hate role hints and relying on them; I have no idea WTF you are talking about here, Golden.

Chrysanthemums awarding dime art.

I'm just trying to impart information to Mac. If no-one else gets it, then it is probably fine.

My breadcrumb was not a role hint about my role. I haven't made any role hints and don't intend to start.

[Turnip Head]

If the Scarecrow targets their own role (i.e. Penguin must kill himself) how the hell does that work?

That wouldn't be allowed.

[Golden]

If the Scarecrow targets their own role (i.e. Penguin must kill himself) how the hell does that work?

That wouldn't be allowed.

Sure. The point of my link wasn't that Mac was forced to target himself. It's what else it implied.

[Dom]

Anybody wanna be my number one amigo and link me to the Mac. Sabie, and Spirityo cases or nah?

If you know me, I'm more of a continually building case person rather than one post with it all compiled.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 47#p234847
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 96#p233396

I think these two sum up my feelings I guess. I'm trying to revisit it tomorrow and see if I feel as strongly.

Essentially now, or at least how I'm interpreting it, is that I answered all of Juliette questions, minus say I need to go back and provide a nice read of some stuff, and all the suspicion now comes down to this silly "I don't care if you lynch me, oh and I hinted my role" so now we're upset by this? Like I'm confused still like how I was with the whole Scotty Wilgy thing from day one in. Why? Since it feels like it's a lot of "ew no, I'm voting you cause I dislike that"

Like damn if you don't like my silly "breadcrumb" then don't get offended by it people. Either look for it, ignore it, or some third option.

Linki: and there you go^^

LOL
what
No.
You're pressured, you defend yourself. Some people still suspect you. You remember Mac has avoided lynch for days by dropping a "breadcrumb". You say the word. Like... this is desperate.

@juliets

If you honestly, in your gut, etc, know I'm anti town. Then by all means. But if you're (you being everyone here) just looking to vote something, then please reconsider.

I can feel a sabie vote out of Sabie/Spirityo/Mac. So thats where I'm voting.

I could vote for any of them.
I'm leaning sprit, but I could go Sabie. I'm gonna try and revisit Mac tomorrow, like I said.

I am so over this shit play. I guess I might not be revisiting Mac.

[S~V~S]

This is why I hate role hints and relying on them; I have no idea WTF you are talking about here, Golden.

Mine is intended for Mac to understand. His might be more self-explanatory.

I think the more relevant question is, why is Mac's behaviour in any way suspicious? What about his crumb hint looked suspicious? Have you seen that tactic used by baddies before? And why was he taking votes on that day in the first place, that necessitated him having to work to defend himself? None of this makes sense to me, in that I just don't understand what people are seeing, because Mac seems very townie this game.

No, I understood his. I don;t understand yours. And, tbh, I should not have to understand them, They should not be required.

Pre bread crumb, I discussed why I thought he was bad. Then the way he handled the role hint felt very, very, very *faux* to me. OMG OMG ROLE HINT then once he isn;t lynched, well, it was not so apparent, was it?

If he is lynched and not bad, tbh, the whole role hint made him more suspect, not less for the most part.

Linki yeah I know

[Golden]

This is why I hate role hints and relying on them; I have no idea WTF you are talking about here, Golden.

Mine is intended for Mac to understand. His might be more self-explanatory.

I think the more relevant question is, why is Mac's behaviour in any way suspicious? What about his crumb hint looked suspicious? Have you seen that tactic used by baddies before? And why was he taking votes on that day in the first place, that necessitated him having to work to defend himself? None of this makes sense to me, in that I just don't understand what people are seeing, because Mac seems very townie this game.

No, I understood his. I don;t understand yours. And, tbh, I should not have to understand them, They should not be required.

Pre bread crumb, I discussed why I thought he was bad. Then the way he handled the role hint felt very, very, very *faux* to me. OMG OMG ROLE HINT then once he isn;t lynched, well, it was not so apparent, was it?

If he is lynched and not bad, tbh, the whole role hint made him more suspect, not less for the most part.

Linki yeah I know

Well thats fine. Mine wasn't for you to understand.

Well, I'm asking you why, pre bread crumb, you thought he was bad? Because I don't understand it.

[Sorsha]

If the Scarecrow targets their own role (i.e. Penguin must kill himself) how the hell does that work?

That wouldn't be allowed.

Sure. The point of my link wasn't that Mac was forced to target himself. It's what else it implied.

Are you saying that Scarecrow figured out Mac's role and is telling all of his (the scarecrows) targets that they need his (mac's) role dead?

[Golden]

If the Scarecrow targets their own role (i.e. Penguin must kill himself) how the hell does that work?

That wouldn't be allowed.

Sure. The point of my link wasn't that Mac was forced to target himself. It's what else it implied.

Are you saying that Scarecrow figured out Mac's role and is telling all of his (the scarecrows) targets that they need his (mac's) role dead?

I'm saying I think that is a very possible explanation for why Mac is taking some of his votes, yes.

[Golden]

Bullzeye's seems genuine to me. I understood Bullz's reasoning the first time he voted for Mac, even though I didn't agree. I'm not sure about any of the others.

[S~V~S]

I have not been Scarecrowed.

And for me it was THs case, I will go pull that up.

[MacDougall]

I have not been Scarecrowed.

And for me it was THs case, I will go pull that up.

You mean the case the guy that made it doesn't think is good enough to vote me for anymore.

You're wasting your time SVS.

[S~V~S]

I want to hear Turnip Head's thoughts on MP today (and also on sig).

I don't want to lynch either of them. I think MacDougall might be Nero's teammate.

[snip]I've liked spirityo's feel too. Also nerolunar has seemed quite natty which is good. Matt looks natty.

Just want to reiterate that I barely read any of the actual content because I found much of what I was reading dramatic over exaggeration of irrelevant points.

So to reiterate here's some of these

For Turnip Head, Lorab, Bass and bea.

This is Mac's first mention of Nero. I don't know what natty means but in context it's a defense of his character in the same post where Mac says he hasn't read much content.

I still believe we should go to AA though. Im wondering if there is a mechanic that makes the Riddler place clues where he has been. He has been at Arkham, so it wouldn´t surprise me if there was one.

What is this based on?

I like the question Typhoony but I also like Nerolunar's theory here. I think the idea that Riddler would leave evidence behind of his crimes is pretty solid, but I don't think that'd be as simple as us being able to select the asylum and get one...

More of Mac finding Nero's contributions valuable.

I think the most suspicious thing to come out of this was Neru throwing shade at me and then backing down when I called him out on it.

Was weird huh.

This won't show up in a search because I was calling him "Neru" for forever and Mac was responding to my post.

For those who have not read this 90 page behemoth, Mac made a big deal over me using the word "we" to refer to civilian behavior, and Nero backed him up with a definitive statement about how it made me bad. When I called Nero out for sounding so sure about it, he backed off with a "No haha lots of time left." After Mac and I hashed it out for 100 posts or so, I made this comment about Nero and Mac gave this half-hearted agreement. I believe Nero simply got too confident in following a teammate's suspicion here, and upon realizing that he backed off.

[snip]

I agree with your feelings towards bea. I am wondering why Nerolunar isn't on your list though.

All this really shows is that Mac is cognizant of my suspicion of Nero.

So basically you are saying yes Matt was likely cursed but here is why it most likely wasn't by the Joker. Yes?

Linki. Yay!! I understood something!!

I'm not actually dismissing the possibility that he was cursed by The Joker. Maybe The Joker can do that as part of his secrets. I am dismissing the possibility that it occured via Matt having targeted him.

Matt's suspicion of Nerolunar is based on Nero talking about the Riddler. Matt is probably The Riddler and thinks Nero is the cop that needs him dead.

In which Mac calls into question Matt's motives for wanting to lynch Nero. This is a bizarre post, mostly because Mac had been defending Matt up until this point. But this not only discredit's Matt's suspicion of Nero, it discredits his motives entirely by speculating that Matt is the Riddler himself. If you look through Mac's posts, this is the only point in the game where Mac questions his civvieness, when it relates to Nero as a suspect. Mac reads Matt as civ in all situations except where it relates to Nero.

Matt eventually seems like a goner, but then Enrique comes in with his 180 on the subject, and people are looking for a new lynch target.

Lets lynch Nero.

Let's not just lynch a guy based on a player saying let's lynch them. Let's decide on who the best candidate is.

I tactically stopped attacking my suspects from Day 1 today and it revealed some interesting stuff. Under the microscope Turnip Head contributed plenty of discussion. As soon as I took the microscope away his contribution to discussion screeched to a grinding halt. Why?

This post is a direct response to DH saying we should lynch Nero. He doesn't name Nero, instead tries to pivot back to his earlier suspicion of me by mischaracterizing my play as "screeching to a grinding halt".

Mac follows up:

I think sig and nero are both reasonable candidates and wouldn't actually mind seeing either of them flip. But, I would like it to be based on something more than DharmaHelper blatantly inviting lurkers to drive by vote whoever he says to.

Enrique is the one who suggested that we move votes toward sig or Nero. DharmaHelper only said Nero. This post is a defense of Nero and only Nero.

Sig and nero... Sig, the ultimate in mislynch meta and nero who I've never played with before. Both ping me for different reasons.

Sig - Well, I am seeing an unusually thorough sig. He's held together. Usually civ sig is a little more mealy mouthed lol. His responses to being put under threat here are a little alarming.
Nerolunar - There was the thing on day 1 where he tried to jump in on the Turnip Head suspicion and when TH growled at him he backed off all like "lol jks bra" and tbh that is arguably the most surface scummy thing that has occurred. Coupled with Matt wanting him lynched...

I think I'd endorse Nero being lynched over sig.

This is the first indication that Mac thinks the thing I mentioned on Day 1 was "the most surface scummy thing that has occurred". But Mac never votes for Nero on the basis of that and never interrogates Nero the way he had me for the "we" thing.

Nero is a good lynch today imo. Y'all should just go watch some TV or something and wait for the outcome.

Nero had 7 votes at this point and there was about an hour and a half left. Weird post.

Reveal that not civvie plz.

Reveal dat Catwoman or someshit

This bravado rings false. The Catwoman thing seems like an allusion to the fact that Matt thought Nero was the Riddler, and Enrique thought Nero was the Joker. To me it feels like Mac knew Nero would flip mafia against the evidence, and while he wanted to sound confident he also wanted to poke fun at the conspiracy theories.



On the Nero side of things...

Honestly Matt I think you fear for your own life. Trying to raise a mob against me and what not.

Strong Civ reads: Juliets, Mac and Golden. They seem very genuine and has brought on some good points. I find myself to mostly agree with these people. I should include Scotty here too since I too believe that Wilgy was Robin.

Slight Civ reads: Sorsha. This guy seems very reasonable but doesn´t post that much which strikes me as odd. Dom and MP also strike me as civvy.

My scum reads are Dharmahelper, Matt and Metalmarsh. Especially Metal as he has not explained his weird behavior of voting Zebra at the beginning of day 1. I have ased him that question a few times now and keeps ignoring it. If he doesn´t answer I might go ahead and vote him. Dharma because he only usually pops in to comment on something then leaves. Matt because he is being somewhat desperate to get rid of me and his weird conspiracy that is simply not true.

Linki These knock knock jokes are getting so annoying.

Nero didn't make very many posts that were about his thoughts on other players, but I specifically asked him for this one. Of these players, Mac is the only one that Nero had any sort of contact with, and Nero labelled him among his civ reads. This is something I think Mac would tell him it would be okay to do. The whole thread has read Mac as town, why shouldn't Nero?

I've had cause to come on and check this game thread a number of times today and I honestly can't recall an occasion where I have and Magnus (Nerolunar) hasn't been on as well and yet (once again) you post so infrequently my friend. I know this is all pretty heavy going and as you're new you are maybe feeling a little overwhelmed (as am I) but isn't there something you'd like to contribute or some observation you'd care to make

I am overwhelmed. I keep a tab open in my broswer and refreshes it occasionally. I hate having to read more than a few pages in one go, so I take it as it comes, especially that it´s Sunday and I don´t have anything else to do.

I believe both Mac and Bullz are town. They both seem genuine to me.

Nero once again calls Mac a town read. Both of these posts took place before Enrique did his 180 on Matt, so at the time Matt seemed like the sure thing and there was no reason for Nero to feel like he was in danger and no reason to heavily distance from teammates.





Let me know what you think y'all. I know it's difficult to look at Mac's posts from this context but if you search his posts for "Nerolunar" and "Nero" and read the bits of the thread surrounding his mentions of Nero, I think there's good evidence for them being on a team together.

This ^^

Rereading Mac in this light led me to t hink TH had a very good point. TH backed off of him, but it was before publication of the exixtence of the bread crumb. But I have seen lots of false bread crumbs, and not taking it into account, I think he sounds pretty bad to me.

linki, whatever.Golden asked why I suspected you. this is part of the reason why. Telling people things like "you are wasting your time" doesn't help. I give up. Why don;t we all just out ourselves.

[Golden]

No, it's fair enough, I asked SVS why, she should respond, it isn't 'wasting her time'.

I didn't agree with TH's case because I felt Mac actually did point to a post where he was advocating a Nero lynch at the very critical point of that day, namely when Matt was at about 4 votes and Nero at 3, and Mac advocated for Nero's lynch at that time.

[DharmaHelper]

Is it time for the sequel to Mac Attack?

Mac Attack 2: Mactastrophe

[MacDougall]

1. I clarified with Epi whether it was rule breaking to do so days ago, it's not.
2. If I didn't do it, civs would have probably lynched me today and it would have been a wasted lynch.
3. I held out for days under pressure, the straw that has broken my back is copping four votes today after no additional case has been made against me and I've defended everything absolutely to the best I can. I have been left no alternative. There is nothing else I can add to defend myself that I haven't already.
4. I feel like I've been the civviest I could have been in this game tbh and every action I make was starting to be thrown back at me as suspect. I feel like my hands were tied and my ability to genuinely contribute has been limited by the Macbaddie narrative. I've spent most of my energy defending myself at the cost of being able to effectively contribute as a civ. My last contribution as a civ will be to ensure I am not mislynched.

I've tried to do it the right way and it doesn't work. If I didn't point at the crumb now and got lynched it would have been stupid. Apologies if you hate it.

[Golden]

This:

Sig and nero... Sig, the ultimate in mislynch meta and nero who I've never played with before. Both ping me for different reasons.

Sig - Well, I am seeing an unusually thorough sig. He's held together. Usually civ sig is a little more mealy mouthed lol. His responses to being put under threat here are a little alarming.
Nerolunar - There was the thing on day 1 where he tried to jump in on the Turnip Head suspicion and when TH growled at him he backed off all like "lol jks bra" and tbh that is arguably the most surface scummy thing that has occurred. Coupled with Matt wanting him lynched...

I think I'd endorse Nero being lynched over sig.

Was the post, and it came right in the midst of bubbles, juliets and I all voting for Nero, at that critical point in time where things really swung. I don't give Mac credit for the swing, but I think if TH's case was right and Mac was a Nero teammate, that Mac would only have made this post if he intended to bus, and he would then have followed it up with a vote and completed the bus. This post only makes sense to me, in addition to not ultimately voting nero, as someone who couldn't be sure of nero's affiliation.

[MacDougall]

No, it's fair enough, I asked SVS why, she should respond, it isn't 'wasting her time'.

I didn't agree with TH's case because I felt Mac actually did point to a post where he was advocating a Nero lynch at the very critical point of that day, namely when Matt was at about 4 votes and Nero at 3, and Mac advocated for Nero's lynch at that time.

What is wasting her time is going through the catacombs to dig up the TH case that has been pointed at countless times. Explaining herself is fine just fine. I don't feel the need to retread over that old chestnut. I wasn't trying to say she is wasting her time explaining herself, just the part where she said "And for me it was THs case, I will go pull that up."

[Dom]

This is why I hate role hints and relying on them; I have no idea WTF you are talking about here, Golden.

Mine is intended for Mac to understand. His might be more self-explanatory.

I think the more relevant question is, why is Mac's behaviour in any way suspicious? What about his crumb hint looked suspicious? Have you seen that tactic used by baddies before? And why was he taking votes on that day in the first place, that necessitated him having to work to defend himself? None of this makes sense to me, in that I just don't understand what people are seeing, because Mac seems very townie this game.

No, I understood his. I don;t understand yours. And, tbh, I should not have to understand them, They should not be required.

Pre bread crumb, I discussed why I thought he was bad. Then the way he handled the role hint felt very, very, very *faux* to me. OMG OMG ROLE HINT then once he isn;t lynched, well, it was not so apparent, was it?

If he is lynched and not bad, tbh, the whole role hint made him more suspect, not less for the most part.

Linki yeah I know

Well thats fine. Mine wasn't for you to understand.

Well, I'm asking you why, pre bread crumb, you thought he was bad? Because I don't understand it.

I linked DH to two posts in particular I found to be convincing for me.

I have not been Scarecrowed.

And for me it was THs case, I will go pull that up.

You mean the case the guy that made it doesn't think is good enough to vote me for anymore.

You're wasting your time SVS.

This is bad logic.
The person who made the initial point doesn't have some greater insight that the rest of us don't.

[Golden]

No, it's fair enough, I asked SVS why, she should respond, it isn't 'wasting her time'.

I didn't agree with TH's case because I felt Mac actually did point to a post where he was advocating a Nero lynch at the very critical point of that day, namely when Matt was at about 4 votes and Nero at 3, and Mac advocated for Nero's lynch at that time.

What is wasting her time is going through the catacombs to dig up the TH case that has been pointed at countless times. Explaining herself is fine just fine. I don't feel the need to retread over that old chestnut. I wasn't trying to say she is wasting her time explaining herself, just the part where she said "And for me it was THs case, I will go pull that up."

I don't think it is a waste. I think the case on you was flawed, and I want to show why. In terms of taking your role hint at face value and that being the only reason not to vote you - well there are no guarantees that you are not a baddie role hinting for cred. I think you are town because I don't agree with the case on you.

[MacDougall]

This:

Sig and nero... Sig, the ultimate in mislynch meta and nero who I've never played with before. Both ping me for different reasons.

Sig - Well, I am seeing an unusually thorough sig. He's held together. Usually civ sig is a little more mealy mouthed lol. His responses to being put under threat here are a little alarming.
Nerolunar - There was the thing on day 1 where he tried to jump in on the Turnip Head suspicion and when TH growled at him he backed off all like "lol jks bra" and tbh that is arguably the most surface scummy thing that has occurred. Coupled with Matt wanting him lynched...

I think I'd endorse Nero being lynched over sig.

Was the post, and it came right in the midst of bubbles, juliets and I all voting for Nero, at that critical point in time where things really swung. I don't give Mac credit for the swing, but I think if TH's case was right and Mac was a Nero teammate, that Mac would only have made this post if he intended to bus, and he would then have followed it up with a vote and completed the bus. This post only makes sense to me, in addition to not ultimately voting nero, as someone who couldn't be sure of nero's affiliation.

Well I had already voted but yes I tried to use that in my defence but nobody wanted to hear it.

It's all good though, resume regularly scheduled transmission and find some baddies. Sabie and Spirityo are both decent candidates. One sec.

[Golden]

@Mac - I heard it and it influenced me at the time. Unfortunately I was very busy and didn't have time to emphasise that view at the time. The fact you took so many votes on that day came as a surprise to me when I was doing my read back.

[MacDougall]

The only problem with me dying would be putting my fate into the hands of town tbh. Otherwise, bring it on. I'm willing to see how terrible the votes on this wagon get

I am just super curious. Totally happy with a Spirityo.

I already made a case on Sabie that nobody looked at but others made their own so cool with that lynch also.

[Sorsha]

Anybody wanna be my number one amigo and link me to the Mac. Sabie, and Spirityo cases or nah?

If you know me, I'm more of a continually building case person rather than one post with it all compiled.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 47#p234847
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 96#p233396

I think these two sum up my feelings I guess. I'm trying to revisit it tomorrow and see if I feel as strongly.

Essentially now, or at least how I'm interpreting it, is that I answered all of Juliette questions, minus say I need to go back and provide a nice read of some stuff, and all the suspicion now comes down to this silly "I don't care if you lynch me, oh and I hinted my role" so now we're upset by this? Like I'm confused still like how I was with the whole Scotty Wilgy thing from day one in. Why? Since it feels like it's a lot of "ew no, I'm voting you cause I dislike that"

Like damn if you don't like my silly "breadcrumb" then don't get offended by it people. Either look for it, ignore it, or some third option.

Linki: and there you go^^

LOL
what
No.
You're pressured, you defend yourself. Some people still suspect you. You remember Mac has avoided lynch for days by dropping a "breadcrumb". You say the word. Like... this is desperate.

@juliets

If you honestly, in your gut, etc, know I'm anti town. Then by all means. But if you're (you being everyone here) just looking to vote something, then please reconsider.

I can feel a sabie vote out of Sabie/Spirityo/Mac. So thats where I'm voting.

I could vote for any of them.
I'm leaning sprit, but I could go Sabie. I'm gonna try and revisit Mac tomorrow, like I said.

I am so over this shit play. I guess I might not be revisiting Mac.

I like these points about sprityo, Dom... Both of these posts stood out to me also.

I also like the case on sabie that juliets made. I'll be voting for one or the other of them (sabie or sprit... Not Juliet)

I don't think Mac should be lynched.

[Dom]

I'm rather perturbed that Sabie never responded to my question to her... or any post about her.... in any way.

I know bad things happen (Sabie, your situation sounds horrific, and I hope I'm never in that boat. All the love), but the way she posted really rang bad to me.

[S~V~S]

I don't know that I want to play Mafia anymore. I will hang until my role hint is required.

[Marmot]

As much as I share the suspicions of some of the candidates who've already attracted votes this Day phase, there is one other of whom I am most suspicious. I took bea's advice to heart and last night, stepped back and tried to open my mind to possibilities that I hadn't considered previously and now feel comfortable with my conclusion. I don't accept that none of the more prominent members here at TS are neither Mafia nor Mafia aligned independents (or at least are not Town aligned). Last night I took the opportunity to look in depth at one of the very accomplished members of this site (MM). Other than his vote on me last Day phase, I couldn't recall any contribution of significance from him and undertook an ISO of his posts and was astounded that he has contributed 160 posts to this game. If you haven't ISO'd him, I strongly recommend you do. At at an average post length of around 15 words that 160 posts consist of little more than off topic, flippant or trivial comments with next to no substantial analysis whatsoever. The votes that he's cast have had little to no justification and for a player of his experience and reputation, this set off alarm bells for me.

I then sought to confirm that his performance this game was different to what one would expect from him and so referenced the last game I played with him (Pikmin Mafia) and confirmed that his posting style was indeed very similar - only he WAS Mafia in that game. In my view and from my reading, I feel my vote for MetalMarsh is more than justified at this point.

I haven't been able to keep up very much. But there are a couple players in this game I trust, and so I haven't hesitated in following the vote of those players.

If there's anything I can do to help, let me know. I haven't had the ability to invest myself in this game as much as I usually do or would like. If you really think I am playing like I did in Pikmin, can you explain why? I'll be ready to prove you wrong.

[Golden]

I don't know that I want to play Mafia anymore. I will hang until my role hint is required.

I thought we already established that you role hinted when you said the number 8

hang in there SVS. Vent to llama.

[MacDougall]

I don't know that I want to play Mafia anymore. I will hang until my role hint is required.

You are that cut about what I've done?

Fear not SVS. You can have your game back now.

[S~V~S]

No, not you, stop. I am being a bitch, lol.

[S~V~S]

I just really dislike role hints. It isn't you, don;t take it that way.

[Golden]

Crysanthemum eating bean dip.

[DharmaHelper]

I don't think I've role hinted once in eight years

[Dom]

I don't think I've role hinted once in eight years

same tbh

[Golden]

I don't think I've role hinted once in eight years

What about in the other, like, 16 or however many.