Rocky and Bullwinkle - The Legend of Frostbite Falls [Day 8]

[Epignosis]

She's fooled me once in three years.

I saw Turnip Head with the devil!

[Turnip Head]

She's fooled me once in three years.

I saw Turnip Head with the devil!

No you didn't.

[a2thezebra]

Haha, okay. I'll see what I can do.

Knock yourself out. You'll only be lynching a civilian if you don't change your mind.

I would recommend you disengage from me and look at other options.

A civilian that you refuse to explain why you think they are a civilian. Right. I'm open to changing my mind, but I can't change my mind on my own. I need help. I asked for yours and you told me to go ahead and lynch her. I'm engaging with you because you're online at the moment and you're talking to me. If you want me to look at other options, what other options would you recommend I look at and why?

All right, that's fair enough.

In case you don't know, I am married to Elohcin. She's not bad. She's fooled me once in three years. The end.

I don't like relying on that, because she has become a better player, but I'll not see her lynched over bullshit. So yeah, I'm sticking my neck out for her. Civilians need to recognize that I'm good, she's good, and I get the impression that someone else know she's good, and I also believe someone else knows I'm not a killer.

Now then. Is my shit together or is my shit together Mr. Peabody?

So she's only fooled you once before so therefore she's good. Fantastic.

What other options would you recommend I look at and why?

[Epignosis]

She's fooled me once in three years.

I saw Turnip Head with the devil!

No you didn't.

I surely did not.

[a2thezebra]

Also, who is "Blooper" that MP mentioned?

nijuukyugou.

Thank you.

You're welcome. What are your thoughts at the moment?

[Epignosis]

Haha, okay. I'll see what I can do.

Knock yourself out. You'll only be lynching a civilian if you don't change your mind.

I would recommend you disengage from me and look at other options.

A civilian that you refuse to explain why you think they are a civilian. Right. I'm open to changing my mind, but I can't change my mind on my own. I need help. I asked for yours and you told me to go ahead and lynch her. I'm engaging with you because you're online at the moment and you're talking to me. If you want me to look at other options, what other options would you recommend I look at and why?

All right, that's fair enough.

In case you don't know, I am married to Elohcin. She's not bad. She's fooled me once in three years. The end.

I don't like relying on that, because she has become a better player, but I'll not see her lynched over bullshit. So yeah, I'm sticking my neck out for her. Civilians need to recognize that I'm good, she's good, and I get the impression that someone else know she's good, and I also believe someone else knows I'm not a killer.

Now then. Is my shit together or is my shit together Mr. Peabody?

So she's only fooled you once before so therefore she's good. Fantastic.

What other options would you recommend I look at and why?

Sloonei remains my number one suspect. Read what I wrote, if you didn't.

[a2thezebra]

I didn't. :P

I will though.

[Epignosis]

And I gotta go to bed. Today was bullshit, NBA-wise. How are you a top player and you get no rebounds in the first half? Meh. Must've been off-Center. Genuinely pissed about Brook Lopez and Al Horford.

[indiglo]

Linki - I thought I was a fast typer???

@ Zebra:

I still can't shake my ping of MP. I understand exactly what you are saying about his play style, and so I'm conflicted about him. I'm also uncertain about DocW... if he were seduced, that would pretty much (nearly) guarantee MP is not baddie. However if he were "narratored", then it's still up for grabs. I do think it's odd that finally (after taking a little bit of heat and a couple votes) MP came in and tried to post some actual content, although it was unhelpful and not useful content (just IMO, no offense intended of course)... so that seemed just a touch convenient. Like, here's some real stuff... except that it's already useless, so we can't say he hasn't posted any content.

And beside that 1 ping I just don't feel a lot. That's my 1 thing right now, and I don't feel certain about it, yet there isn't really another place I feel comfortable putting my vote.

Now "Blooper" has voted without posting... so has he also been either seduced or narratored? He hasn't been scrooched, because Llama said that means no posting, no votes, no night power... so it has to be 1 of the 2... or just an honest vote with no post. Which is weird? But maybe not for him?


I am willing to look elsewhere, obviously. I understand what Epi is saying about Sloon, but I'm not certain it pings me as much as it pings him.

[Epignosis]

Now "Blooper" has voted without posting... so has he also been either seduced or narratored? He hasn't been scrooched, because Llama said that means no posting, no votes, no night power... so it has to be 1 of the 2... or just an honest vote with no post. Which is weird? But maybe not for him?

Blooper is good. I won't be voting for HER.

[indiglo]

Oops. Apologies, m'lady.

[bea]

She's fooled me once in three years.

I saw Turnip Head with the devil!

I swear....my wife is outside playing with the kids....there is no way she's bad.... we may have lost but that game was awesome.

[bea]

Ok. I'm getting up at 7. Have to be at work at 9.

I will try my best to make heads or tails if what I think and reread the thread with my coffee. It's 3 am now. Worst possible week for a speed game to start ever.

[Sorsha]

I'm having a hard time deciding who to vote for.

I like epis case in Sloonei but MPs defense of Sloon keeps me from voting him.

[DrWilgy]

I'm at work and will no longer be able to contribute.

#votingsloon
#yayties
#killmeplzfam
#epiisbad
#hehadabigpostb4day6
#scumepiisonlypossiblesolution

[sprityo]

For shits and giggles, tie up 4 way

No but I still need to read, determine if I agree with what mp said and what the people who opposed him said.

[sprityo]

Hmm without putting it into words, I'm feeling a lot of gut read on elo. That and I feel like zeb is a friend, so I will vote elo. Let's see the EPIc save? :3

[Scotty]

Hey @Host!

Does the narrator have to decide whether he wants to direct someone's lynch vote before the lynch ends?

And if Boris dies, does that mean the other Mafia receive the kill in a line of succession, or is Mafia just permanently handicapped? Bc that would be lolz

@HOST I don't think this was answered. Just wondering if I can get some clarification-Thanks!

I feel like I've been pretty non existent this game, which is frankly unlike me. I see I might be a deciding vote today, so let me get loaded on this bus and get back before eod in a bit.

[S~V~S]

I went with Sloonei~ I thought his remark re thinking anyone with an opinion on FL's power was suspicious, but then thinking one of the people who said it was more suspicious than the other was fence riding. Not particularly seeing anything that has caught my eye more than that did. Although the way ELoh jumped at conclusion drawing from Epis post also got my eye.

[thellama73]

@ llama - Narrator - Can direct either a lynch vote, or a night action of another player.

If the Narrator directs a lynch vote, would that be done via the thread? For example, would the directed party have to vote a particular way in the poll?

Or would the directing be done BTS? Whoever the directed party votes for in the poll/thread wouldn't really get the vote, it would secretly go elsewhere?

He would have to vote that way in the poll. It would be a visible vote.

[thellama73]

Hey @Host!

Does the narrator have to decide whether he wants to direct someone's lynch vote before the lynch ends?

And if Boris dies, does that mean the other Mafia receive the kill in a line of succession, or is Mafia just permanently handicapped? Bc that would be lolz

@HOST I don't think this was answered. Just wondering if I can get some clarification-Thanks!

I feel like I've been pretty non existent this game, which is frankly unlike me. I see I might be a deciding vote today, so let me get loaded on this bus and get back before eod in a bit.

The lynch direct is a night action. The decision has to be made the night previous to the vote.

Regarding the second question, let me quote MP.

[Sloonei]

Haha, okay. I'll see what I can do.

Knock yourself out. You'll only be lynching a civilian if you don't change your mind.

I would recommend you disengage from me and look at other options.

A civilian that you refuse to explain why you think they are a civilian. Right. I'm open to changing my mind, but I can't change my mind on my own. I need help. I asked for yours and you told me to go ahead and lynch her. I'm engaging with you because you're online at the moment and you're talking to me. If you want me to look at other options, what other options would you recommend I look at and why?

All right, that's fair enough.

In case you don't know, I am married to Elohcin. She's not bad. She's fooled me once in three years. The end.

I don't like relying on that, because she has become a better player, but I'll not see her lynched over bullshit. So yeah, I'm sticking my neck out for her. Civilians need to recognize that I'm good, she's good, and I get the impression that someone else know she's good, and I also believe someone else knows I'm not a killer.

Now then. Is my shit together or is my shit together Mr. Peabody?

So she's only fooled you once before so therefore she's good. Fantastic.

What other options would you recommend I look at and why?

Sloonei remains my number one suspect. Read what I wrote, if you didn't.

You are also wrong.

I'd say to look at everyone voting for me as potentially being cowardly or opportunistic, since when I left there was no case whatsoever against me, and only after I became unable to respond to anything did it pop up.

I still don't have time to read everything though, and I'm not going to spend a lot of energy defending myself, nor will I be voting to save myself. But I'm town, and lynching me is essentially throwing the day down the drain.

[Tangrowth]

STOP VOTING FOR SLOONEI

Vote for me instead.

Votes MP

[Sloonei]

I went with Sloonei~ I thought his remark re thinking anyone with an opinion on FL's power was suspicious, but then thinking one of the people who said it was more suspicious than the other was fence riding. Not particularly seeing anything that has caught my eye more than that did. Although the way ELoh jumped at conclusion drawing from Epis post also got my eye.

This is still either a misinterpretation or a misrepresentation of what I said.

[Sorsha]

STOP VOTING FOR SLOONEI

Vote for me instead.

Votes MP

If you're trying to save Sloonei why didn't you vote for eloh, who has more votes than you & tied with Sloonei, rather than yourself?

[Tangrowth]

I will move my vote to save Sloonei; I was merely trying to show the confidence with which I am townreading Sloonei. This is absolutely his town game.

[Tangrowth]

I really should be doing PhD work instead, but I'll try to slog through d2 now.

[Tangrowth]

n1 I get bad vibes from indi and LC. I don't like the way indi defended Epi's train of thought after the fact, she's way too buddy buddy, and she's writing a whole lot without actually causing any waves. I get the impression after d1/n1 that she has no genuine desire to catch mafia.

Similar feeling with LC. He just seems content flying under the radar saying a seemingly helpful comment now and then. Doesn't seem too concerned.

[Tangrowth]

Nailed it Aesop! Hilarious!!


@ llama - Were there any missing PMs?



RIP Bwt, I suppose, right? Would he be modkilled straight away? Or are the baddies actually classy this game?

Atm, I'm going to place my vote on MP. He ran through yesterday, and un-informedly went ahead and entered into the fray of the main discussion / lynch competition going on. If you don't have time to catch up, I think rather than trying to come down on a side, it would be better to not cast your vote into the heated mix. (It wasn't really heated, but I'm hoping I am at least making somewhat sense.) So just a reminder - civ votes count, and we should be careful how we use them. (Except for sig's.) Only baddies (and sig, this game) don't care who they vote for, because any dead guy is ok for them.

Bullsuit. Who said I didn't care who I voted for? And how does any of this actually make me bad? You just make a sweeping generalization about what baddies do. That's nonsense.

[Tangrowth]

Upon seeing the kill, I was transported back to another llamagame, Frisky Dingo, in which the Mafia consciously took out people who were not participating or were not participating much.

The mafia team there consisted of Cookie, S~V~S, Russtifinko, Movingpictures07, and ika.

Only two of those are present here. You'd have to ask yourself if either of them would employ the same rationale for kills as before.

Speculating on NKs is useless. Anyone could have killed anyone else in any game.

[Tangrowth]

I was being jokey early. Most people were. I don't see this as a scum tell for anyone, ever. I am accusing your posts of being padded with fluff, like you were trying to appear present, but you never really comtributed anything on Day 1.
Now you've come out on Day 2 pointing fingers at the only person to have pointed fingers at you, without having read all of my posts, it seems. That is fishy behavior in my book.

+1

Consider Scotty on my radar.

[Tangrowth]

I'm almost 100% sure that everyone (idk about Scotty) with votes right now is civilian. I was legitimately pinged by Elo earlier, but I await her explanation (I hope she has responded, I'll find out soon enough), but the fact that Long Con voted for her (whom I find more suspicious) puts off alarm bells to me. Elohcin is an incredibly convenient target for most baddie teams because she's so easy to get lynched. She's low hanging fruit.

[Tangrowth]

Comments in sarcastic orange:

Upon seeing the kill, I was transported back to another llamagame, Frisky Dingo, in which the Mafia consciously took out people who were not participating or were not participating much.

The mafia team there consisted of Cookie, S~V~S, Russtifinko, Movingpictures07, and ika.

Only two of those are present here. You'd have to ask yourself if either of them would employ the same rationale for kills as before.

Interesting. My brain (without knowing this already) immediately went to: SVS and/or MoPi.

1) I got a slight ping off SVS for her less than OTT reaction to Zebra's poking. I would have expected civ SVS to react even more strongly. You thought her reaction was not OTT enough? Wow. I disagree. I also don't think civilian versus baddie S~V~S is as straightforward as strength of emotional reactions. I've seen a baddie S~V~S get upset.

2) I got a slight ping off MP for his rushed, un-informed vote Day 1. Why? You said this earlier too. You've yet to explain how it makes me bad; tell me more.

A) I could also see this NK being SVS because it is the gentlewomanly thing to do, and she likes for players to play a game. WIFOM. Useless.

B) I could also see it being a MoPi move because you could have done it quickly without thinking if you were in a rush. WIFOM. Also useless.


My only other thought was perhaps Boris is MIA and therefore didn't send in his kill, and BWT got modkilt. Would Llama do that so quickly though? Or would he give a player more time to check in first? (BWT never even got his role yet, so far as we can tell, right?)

These are easy ways for a mafia member to seem like they are genuinely engaged in the game. Softball suspicions.

indiglo, you bad.

[Tangrowth]

Who wants a CFD?

Let's CFD Epi, indiglo, or Long Con please.

[Tangrowth]

I could go either way on Eloh, I felt pretty good about her, then she read waaaaaay into what Epi said, with that little canned commentary. With Indi chiming in right after. BUT tons of civ BTS in this game, so not sure this means much other than Eloh finds me hard to trust.

And wanting to make a tie on day one is not a baddie thing re MP. As the host of the legendary 4 or 5 way tie, I say this.

Elo reading way into what Epi says seems to be a town tell to me. I'm backing off of her unless I have to vote her today to save me or Sloonei. I'd like to avoid that if possible.

[Tangrowth]

There's no guarantee my vote will remain on Elohcin by the end of the lynch.

Why?

Give us some indication of what's going on in your head. You're withholding much of your thought processes and suspects so far, and it strikes me as suspicious. Civilian LC isn't afraid of anything.

[Sorsha]

Who wants a CFD?

Let's CFD Epi, indiglo, or Long Con please.

[Tangrowth]

I have pretty much now convinced myself that Dr. Wilgy has been seduced. (You saucy player, you!) We will most likely be seeing some poorly shot sex video up on the internet before long. <---- me, not wanting to see said sex video

Anyway, it's making me want to move my vote off of MP to someone else. More reading and thinking to do.

Note that indi suddenly thinks that DrWilgy is seduced, after no particularly new illuminating information, and wants to move her vote from me -- coincidentally after zebra strongly town reads me and no one else seemingly is latching onto an MP vote.

Opportunistic.

[Tangrowth]

Who wants a CFD?

Let's CFD Epi, indiglo, or Long Con please.

voting indiglo

[Tangrowth]

Well, I'll start my rebuttal thusly:

If you lynch Eloh, you're an ignoramoose. Or bad.

So don't do it.

She stuck her neck out for me, and I am now inclined to do likewise because I pay attention and know how to read.

If you need lynch me to discover we're not teammates, that's fine. Knock yourselves out. I'll lose the game, but I'll still Gilbert Gottfried the shit out of you.

MP is casting lazy votes and now suspects nijuukyugou. I don't like that. Switching my vote to MP.

It's OK if you tell me that I'm ignoramoose or bad if I vote for someone, but you don't take heed of my comments similarly re: Sloonei?

How is the "know how to read" comment even necessary? That's unnecessarily adversarial.

How am I casting "lazy" votes? I don't disagree, but you don't really explain that, especially since, as of this post of yours, I had only cast one vote in the entire game: against you.

Yeah, I suspected Blooper in d1 as I was catching up. Why don't you find her suspect? And how does me disagreeing with you make me bad? Townies disagree with each other all of the time.

WTF Epi?

[Tangrowth]

So we aren't supposed to lynch Eloh, and we aren't supposed to lynch Sloonei.

I'm going to come on out and defend her. I think she's good. If you lynch her, you're just going to look foolish.

I would rather the civilians reevaluate.

As for Sloonei, that was my big suspect. Does Sloonei give up when civilian? When bad? I don't know.

MP suspects nijuu. I don't. So MP has my vote now.

Explain yourself now.

[Tangrowth]

Linki - I thought I was a fast typer???

@ Zebra:

I still can't shake my ping of MP. I understand exactly what you are saying about his play style, and so I'm conflicted about him. I'm also uncertain about DocW... if he were seduced, that would pretty much (nearly) guarantee MP is not baddie. However if he were "narratored", then it's still up for grabs. I do think it's odd that finally (after taking a little bit of heat and a couple votes) MP came in and tried to post some actual content, although it was unhelpful and not useful content (just IMO, no offense intended of course)... so that seemed just a touch convenient. Like, here's some real stuff... except that it's already useless, so we can't say he hasn't posted any content.

And beside that 1 ping I just don't feel a lot. That's my 1 thing right now, and I don't feel certain about it, yet there isn't really another place I feel comfortable putting my vote.

Now "Blooper" has voted without posting... so has he also been either seduced or narratored? He hasn't been scrooched, because Llama said that means no posting, no votes, no night power... so it has to be 1 of the 2... or just an honest vote with no post. Which is weird? But maybe not for him?


I am willing to look elsewhere, obviously. I understand what Epi is saying about Sloon, but I'm not certain it pings me as much as it pings him.

BULLSUIT.

First off, you said that it's "odd". Is that odd or suspicious? Civilians make odd statements; that doesn't make them suspicious.

Secondly, you said my content was unhelpful. How? And you're wrong. Any content that a townie (or any player for that matter) can provide is meaningful content because it's content by which their intentions can be judged. Regardless of how nonsensical or small you may personally view the content, it is meaningful. How can town work together when they're demotivating players by knocking their content? That's a cheap shot. I'm not taking any offense by the way, but I'm just calling your bullsuit for what it is in-game.

Of course you don't have any other thoughts, because you're bad.

[Scotty]

Reading through day 2 now.

Because he is my friend and he doesn't feel well.

He has my vote till he feels better!

You're a good egg, Wilgy. I dunno what your alignment is this game, but you're swell.

I'm liking indiglo as a reflection of my own niggling in the eccentricities of the game. He reminds me a lot of my son. If I had a son (I really hope not. i dated this girl for a bit and broke up in May. She fell off the face of the earth and moved to Ecuador. 5 months later, after not posting on Facebook during that span, I saw that she "Liked" the local maternity clinic nearby. Needless to say, I was petrified. She hasn't posted new pics or anything since then. I feel like she would have contacted me if...y'know...a little Scotty is running amok somewhere
That being said, his helpfulness and eagerness could also be a baddie game. I just don't know how he operates as a baddie. I'm liking his jib so far, but it's just a neutral read right now.

I think that Epi sounds genuine. I just think he is civ. What I don't agree with is his indebtedness to Elo for saving him day 1. I don't think that saving Epi day 1 is necessarily a civvie quality. I know Epi later said "meh" in regards to other people voting for Elo today, which makes me feel even better about him. I will not be voting Epi today.

Elo is not one I would take as coming out as so defensive as a baddie on day 1. It is a bit of WIFOM but I don't think Mafia would be so egregious with the desire to save someone that early. I read her as neutral right now.

Sloonei came out swinging with many suspicions from the get-go, which could be considered a civ tactic. MP seems to think so. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt for getting on my case over- what I view- as a hypocritical reasoning. I know that my actions on day 2 only further enforce his case on me not contributing and I will have to agree. But the original thoughts he posed at me is no different from how I act in any game day 1, regardless of my alignment. I want to vote him out of No U if I had more votes, but Im trying to remain unbiased. MP put a lot of stock into defending him. But this isn't a reflection of Sloonei's alignment as it is more of a tactic of Mp.

MP expressed that he doesn't have the time to be devoting to this game, and has even expressed the desire to die in the stead of Sloonei. I might just humor him. Because worst case scenario, if he is civ, then I would feel much better about Sloonei going further. And now that he's back, he seems likens wants to be involved.
His uninformed vote eod day 1 doesn't sit well with me after admittedly not being a part of the game. He expressed wanting to die because of lack of time, but then seems committed suddenly now that he actually has traction to get lynched. That's even more suspect. I think he's the best choice for my vote today.

[Tangrowth]

Scotty, catch up, son.

Also, indiglo is female.

[Scotty]

Who wants a CFD?

Let's CFD Epi, indiglo, or Long Con please.

What happened? Why so involved?

Linki: Jesus I missed so much linki

[Tangrowth]

Who wants a CFD?

Let's CFD Epi, indiglo, or Long Con please.

What happened? Why so involved?

Linki: Jesus I missed so much linki

Why so involved?

I'm playing the game.

And neglecting my PhD work.

[Tangrowth]

MP is not just going to sit here while he sucks it up and lets the baddies take advantage of him. No way.

[Scotty]

Upon seeing the kill, I was transported back to another llamagame, Frisky Dingo, in which the Mafia consciously took out people who were not participating or were not participating much.

The mafia team there consisted of Cookie, S~V~S, Russtifinko, Movingpictures07, and ika.

Only two of those are present here. You'd have to ask yourself if either of them would employ the same rationale for kills as before.

Speculating on NKs is useless. Anyone could have killed anyone else in any game.

I do not think speculating on Nks are worthless. Yes, Mafia can kill anyone, but there has to be reason behind killing each one, and I don't think there is a lack of information that can ultimately pinpoint a baddie.

[Tangrowth]

Upon seeing the kill, I was transported back to another llamagame, Frisky Dingo, in which the Mafia consciously took out people who were not participating or were not participating much.

The mafia team there consisted of Cookie, S~V~S, Russtifinko, Movingpictures07, and ika.

Only two of those are present here. You'd have to ask yourself if either of them would employ the same rationale for kills as before.

Speculating on NKs is useless. Anyone could have killed anyone else in any game.

I do not think speculating on Nks are worthless. Yes, Mafia can kill anyone, but there has to be reason behind killing each one, and I don't think there is a lack of information that can ultimately pinpoint a baddie.

It's too WIFOMy on its own, especially this early. I think it's useless; that's my opinion. You're welcome to disagree.

[Scotty]

MP you went from 0-100 in a blink of an eye.

STOP VOTING FOR SLOONEI

Vote for me instead.

Votes MP

I could go either way on Eloh, I felt pretty good about her, then she read waaaaaay into what Epi said, with that little canned commentary. With Indi chiming in right after. BUT tons of civ BTS in this game, so not sure this means much other than Eloh finds me hard to trust.

And wanting to make a tie on day one is not a baddie thing re MP. As the host of the legendary 4 or 5 way tie, I say this.

Elo reading way into what Epi says seems to be a town tell to me. I'm backing off of her unless I have to vote her today to save me or Sloonei. I'd like to avoid that if possible.

You want to be saved after telling people that you would rather die? Was that just a hollow jab?
I'd be in a right mind to believe both you and Sloonei are bad now.