[END] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

[Enrique]

I haven't left the ika wagon, don't worry. Just moving my vote around on the poll for strategic reasons.

linki- extremely low. I missed the first two days almost completely and my ADHD makes me only really skim through things I don't fully understand. I asked to be replaced a while ago, I feel really embarrassed about this, but it's gonna be hard for me to get fully into this game especially when I have tons of other work to catch up on.

[Golden]

Speaking of reminders, this reminds me of Matt in the GoC. :P

I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw it that way.

[Enrique]

ika are you a baddie?

Are you?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I'm starting to feel better about an Epi vote than ika. Ika's frustration about all the votes he's getting seems genuine.

Did anyone say... three way tie?

[Enrique]

I'm starting to feel better about an Epi vote than ika. Ika's frustration about all the votes he's getting seems genuine.

Did anyone say... three way tie?

Let's not. Ties are the devil, never mind three way.

[Sloonei]

I haven't left the ika wagon, don't worry. Just moving my vote around on the poll for strategic reasons.

linki- extremely low. I missed the first two days almost completely and my ADHD makes me only really skim through things I don't fully understand. I asked to be replaced a while ago, I feel really embarrassed about this, but it's gonna be hard for me to get fully into this game especially when I have tons of other work to catch up on.

Why did that post catch your eye?
I gave a much more in depth explanation that explained a part of my strategy for having my vote where it is right now. The other part is that I wanted to put pressure on other people while there was still time left in the day.

[indiglo]

ika are you a baddie?

Are you?

Hey Enrique, have you heard about the olm dragon eggs they are watching to see when they hatch? I smile every time I see your little olmy avatar. So cute, yes you are a cute little baby olm dragon.

[Sloonei]

I'm starting to feel better about an Epi vote than ika. Ika's frustration about all the votes he's getting seems genuine.

Did anyone say... three way tie?

But I would hate to do that, you see.

[Golden]

never mind three way.

Enrique's new sig?

[sig]

With regards to the new player thing, ika, it is frustrating. I have played a handful of mafia games here and at piano, it's tough to get integrated into a community that's had each other for a while. The Pikmin mafia I played most recently was the first game on this site where I wasn't lynched or nightkilled in the first voting period. Hence the very low post count for someone who has been here since 2013. And even so, this game is the first real mafia game I've gotten any sort of a platform whatsoever.

I get that frustration entirely. I was maddeningly frustrated for someone who just wanted to play a mafia game somewhere. But I think if you stick with the community it'll become more enticing.

I agree.

Poor scotty and sig, I felt sorry for those two and it was often me sticking up for them in their early games, but they died early often.

I'm still in my early games here so you should keep sticking up for me. :P

linki: I don't belong to Enrique? :P



So re the whole Ike thing I wasn't feeling the wagon, but Silver coming in and saying she won't play as much if he flips bad is pingy on many levels. It isn't fair to the players or the hosts to hold your activity up as a weapon if things aren't going your way. This might just be me but this seems like a quite scummy thing to do. How does eveyrone else feel on this?

[Black Rock]

Both the gleam and ika wagons are highly suspicious/dubious.

Hey, based on where I'm up to I still think both Matt and Wilgy wagons could be worthwhile.

Why Matt?


SVS? What do you think of TH?

[Enrique]

I haven't left the ika wagon, don't worry. Just moving my vote around on the poll for strategic reasons.

linki- extremely low. I missed the first two days almost completely and my ADHD makes me only really skim through things I don't fully understand. I asked to be replaced a while ago, I feel really embarrassed about this, but it's gonna be hard for me to get fully into this game especially when I have tons of other work to catch up on.

Why did that post catch your eye?
I gave a much more in depth explanation that explained a part of my strategy for having my vote where it is right now. The other part is that I wanted to put pressure on other people while there was still time left in the day.

It read as manipulative, in a way that if somebody called you out on it you could just say "Trust me I'm just mysterious!"

Also shame on you, indiglo. My avi is an axolotl Isn't it cute tho

linki- shut up sig we both know ur mine

[Quin]

With regards to the new player thing, ika, it is frustrating. I have played a handful of mafia games here and at piano, it's tough to get integrated into a community that's had each other for a while. The Pikmin mafia I played most recently was the first game on this site where I wasn't lynched or nightkilled in the first voting period. Hence the very low post count for someone who has been here since 2013. And even so, this game is the first real mafia game I've gotten any sort of a platform whatsoever.

I get that frustration entirely. I was maddeningly frustrated for someone who just wanted to play a mafia game somewhere. But I think if you stick with the community it'll become more enticing.

I agree.

Poor scotty and sig, I felt sorry for those two and it was often me sticking up for them in their early games, but they died early often.

I'm still in my early games here so you should keep sticking up for me. :P

linki: I don't belong to Enrique? :P



So re the whole Ike thing I wasn't feeling the wagon, but Silver coming in and saying she won't play as much if he flips bad is pingy on many levels. It isn't fair to the players or the hosts to hold your activity up as a weapon if things aren't going your way. This might just be me but this seems like a quite scummy thing to do. How does eveyrone else feel on this?

I didn't find it scummy, but I did think it was a really unpleasant thing to say.

[Golden]

I'm not going to jump on Sloonei so fast for his vote. I doubt a cop would so overtly try to save a teammate at that late stage. He had to know that casting the vote there was going to get attention. The obvious potential beneficiary of the save is diiny and he flipped and wasn't cop. The other person sitting closest at 3 is me and I know I'm not a cop (to be sure, noone else does). So it is difficult for me to read it as a 'save'.

How do you feel about the people who have been calling it suspicious?

I haven't figured out who they all are yet (no time to read up), but I feel better about someone like SVS who points out your odd shift about gleam back and forth, which I think is a reasonable suspicion of you, and worse about anyone who jumps to 'its a save'.

Further to this, having now read more fully back up to this point I think Scotty came out of this looking good. His theory that you were saving me strikes me as someone who is trying to get a genuine read on the game, even though I'm not a cop.

[Black Rock]

Never mind Golden.

[indiglo]

With regards to the new player thing, ika, it is frustrating. I have played a handful of mafia games here and at piano, it's tough to get integrated into a community that's had each other for a while. The Pikmin mafia I played most recently was the first game on this site where I wasn't lynched or nightkilled in the first voting period. Hence the very low post count for someone who has been here since 2013. And even so, this game is the first real mafia game I've gotten any sort of a platform whatsoever.

I get that frustration entirely. I was maddeningly frustrated for someone who just wanted to play a mafia game somewhere. But I think if you stick with the community it'll become more enticing.

I agree.

Poor scotty and sig, I felt sorry for those two and it was often me sticking up for them in their early games, but they died early often.

I'm still in my early games here so you should keep sticking up for me. :P

linki: I don't belong to Enrique? :P



So re the whole Ike thing I wasn't feeling the wagon, but Silver coming in and saying she won't play as much if he flips bad is pingy on many levels. It isn't fair to the players or the hosts to hold your activity up as a weapon if things aren't going your way. This might just be me but this seems like a quite scummy thing to do. How does eveyrone else feel on this?

I read it as what I call "Mama Bear" mode. I'd get real pissy if someone were to start picking on my dude too. I don't hold that against anyone.

[Sloonei]

I haven't left the ika wagon, don't worry. Just moving my vote around on the poll for strategic reasons.

linki- extremely low. I missed the first two days almost completely and my ADHD makes me only really skim through things I don't fully understand. I asked to be replaced a while ago, I feel really embarrassed about this, but it's gonna be hard for me to get fully into this game especially when I have tons of other work to catch up on.

Why did that post catch your eye?
I gave a much more in depth explanation that explained a part of my strategy for having my vote where it is right now. The other part is that I wanted to put pressure on other people while there was still time left in the day.

It read as manipulative, in a way that if somebody called you out on it you could just say "Trust me I'm just mysterious!"

Also shame on you, indiglo. My avi is an axolotl Isn't it cute tho

linki- shut up sig we both know ur mine

Mysterious? That post was me trying to be as transparent as possible.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

So re the whole Ike thing I wasn't feeling the wagon, but Silver coming in and saying she won't play as much if he flips bad is pingy on many levels. It isn't fair to the players or the hosts to hold your activity up as a weapon if things aren't going your way. This might just be me but this seems like a quite scummy thing to do. How does eveyrone else feel on this?

I don't like it either.

I'm torn between the scumhunter side of me who wants to pressure them for that and the ambassador side who wants shield them from community bullying.

This kind of relates to the point I made early about how the two acting like they are a single organism instead of two separate players rubs people the wrong way. Nobody knows how to deal with that, myself included.

[Golden]

Both the gleam and ika wagons are highly suspicious/dubious.

Hey, based on where I'm up to I still think both Matt and Wilgy wagons could be worthwhile.

Why Matt?

Does anyone who's played with Matt before want to comment on how this game fits into his meta? It's been a topic of some discussion, but not enough for me to assess it thoroughly

Matt's town meta is to tunnel on an idea, no matter how fruitless it is. But recently, he's become aware of this, to the point that he did it deliberately to success (ie, being alive and winning his team the game) in the Game of Champions. Macdougall pointed out, in Arkham, that he had used this strategy and now saw this perception of him as something he could use.

Matt's tunneling on me is even more extreme than I am used to from civ Matt. Even tunnelly Matt usually engages in rational discussion. The sense I got from Matt is that he was specifically fishing for others to meta-defend him.

[Golden]

So re the whole Ike thing I wasn't feeling the wagon, but Silver coming in and saying she won't play as much if he flips bad is pingy on many levels. It isn't fair to the players or the hosts to hold your activity up as a weapon if things aren't going your way. This might just be me but this seems like a quite scummy thing to do. How does eveyrone else feel on this?

She said if he flips town. I don't think it looks scummy from her at all, she is going in to bat against a bad lynch wagon, and so she should.

[indiglo]

I haven't left the ika wagon, don't worry. Just moving my vote around on the poll for strategic reasons.

linki- extremely low. I missed the first two days almost completely and my ADHD makes me only really skim through things I don't fully understand. I asked to be replaced a while ago, I feel really embarrassed about this, but it's gonna be hard for me to get fully into this game especially when I have tons of other work to catch up on.

Why did that post catch your eye?
I gave a much more in depth explanation that explained a part of my strategy for having my vote where it is right now. The other part is that I wanted to put pressure on other people while there was still time left in the day.

It read as manipulative, in a way that if somebody called you out on it you could just say "Trust me I'm just mysterious!"

Also shame on you, indiglo. My avi is an axolotl Isn't it cute tho

linki- shut up sig we both know ur mine

Well, whatever strange combination of vowels and consonants he is... he is the cutest of them.

[Golden]

Never mind Golden.

Lol. oops.

[Turnip Head]

I don't like that Epignosis has 3 votes. I don't like it one bit

Sloonei is supatowning, which means he's either one of our most valuable assets or an undercover cop Only time will tell I suppose. He defended his Nerolunar read really well, but I don't like that he's criticizing Epignosis for not agreeing with his read, as if Nero's civvieness is obvious.

I don't really know who I want to vote for. I'm not a fan of any of the major wagons but don't have strong baddie reads on anyone.

That's surprising. You usually have more going on by now.

[Black Rock]

I don't like that Epignosis has 3 votes. I don't like it one bit

Sloonei is supatowning, which means he's either one of our most valuable assets or an undercover cop Only time will tell I suppose. He defended his Nerolunar read really well, but I don't like that he's criticizing Epignosis for not agreeing with his read, as if Nero's civvieness is obvious.

I don't really know who I want to vote for. I'm not a fan of any of the major wagons but don't have strong baddie reads on anyone.

That's surprising. You usually have more going on by now.

[ika]

This kind of relates to the point I made early about how the two acting like they are a single organism instead of two separate players rubs people the wrong way. Nobody knows how to deal with that, myself included.

Well if that's what irks everyone it can easily be explained. we share a thing called empathy. where we can feel each others emotions and how we feel towards one another

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empathy

its why sometimes we look like we act as one

[Silverwolf]

So re the whole Ike thing I wasn't feeling the wagon, but Silver coming in and saying she won't play as much if he flips bad is pingy on many levels. It isn't fair to the players or the hosts to hold your activity up as a weapon if things aren't going your way. This might just be me but this seems like a quite scummy thing to do. How does eveyrone else feel on this?

I already explained this. I'm sick of it being an issue and am actually quite frustrated.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

So re the whole Ike thing I wasn't feeling the wagon, but Silver coming in and saying she won't play as much if he flips bad is pingy on many levels. It isn't fair to the players or the hosts to hold your activity up as a weapon if things aren't going your way. This might just be me but this seems like a quite scummy thing to do. How does eveyrone else feel on this?

She said if he flips town. I don't think it looks scummy from her at all, she is going in to bat against a bad lynch wagon, and so she should.

She is not threatening to lynch people for it though (which is fine). She is threatening to ragequit.

[Black Rock]

Golden, how can you tell the difference between Matt's tunneling? I don't see a difference.

[Turnip Head]

I don't like that Epignosis has 3 votes. I don't like it one bit

Sloonei is supatowning, which means he's either one of our most valuable assets or an undercover cop Only time will tell I suppose. He defended his Nerolunar read really well, but I don't like that he's criticizing Epignosis for not agreeing with his read, as if Nero's civvieness is obvious.

I don't really know who I want to vote for. I'm not a fan of any of the major wagons but don't have strong baddie reads on anyone.

That's surprising. You usually have more going on by now.

Lol

I just don't see much yet BR. I'm sure that will change eventually.

[Silverwolf]

I'm gonna finish this game out cuz I know the hosts are having difficulty finding replacements and I do indeed appreciate the warm welcome I got, but this will likely be my last game here. I understand suspecting people for legitimate reasons but suspecting myself or ika because we play different or are defending each other from playstyle type lynches is not all that enticing for me to want to continue here.

[Golden]

So re the whole Ike thing I wasn't feeling the wagon, but Silver coming in and saying she won't play as much if he flips bad is pingy on many levels. It isn't fair to the players or the hosts to hold your activity up as a weapon if things aren't going your way. This might just be me but this seems like a quite scummy thing to do. How does eveyrone else feel on this?

She said if he flips town. I don't think it looks scummy from her at all, she is going in to bat against a bad lynch wagon, and so she should.

She is not threatening to lynch people for it though (which is fine). She is threatening to ragequit.

I don't see it that way. I think she is threatening to be disappointed at us. Which is entirely fair.

[Quin]

Sloonei, why is it that you said you'd be voting for either Epi or ika, yet your vote is still on SVS who, from what I can tell, hasn't been on your list for quite some time? I know you said something about not wanting to influence the votes one way or another, but wouldn't you naturally want people to side with you in a lynch against the person you find most suspicious?

I'll check this thread one more time before I leave for uni, that'll likely be around when day ends because I've got to do a fair bit. I am eagerly awaiting Matt's ISO, but I doubt I'll be here when he releases it.

[sig]

I haven't left the ika wagon, don't worry. Just moving my vote around on the poll for strategic reasons.

linki- shut up sig we both know ur mine

Kinky, though only if your rich. Then you can be my sugar daddy! :P

[Black Rock]

I am going to drop a vote on TH. I'm going to go help LC cook dinner and then I should be back on time to see if I want to change my mind.

Linki: I'm still going to watch you for now. I want to see what SVS says about you.

That Linki was for Turnip

[Golden]

I'm gonna finish this game out cuz I know the hosts are having difficulty finding replacements and I do indeed appreciate the warm welcome I got, but this will likely be my last game here. I understand suspecting people for legitimate reasons but suspecting myself or ika because we play different or are defending each other from playstyle type lynches is not all that enticing for me to want to continue here.

Do you think it is not a fair point, to point out that all 5 of the voters of ika are also new here?

I think it is rough, to call it a knock on the Syndicate. Especially since I'm pretty sure ika is ultimately not going to get lynched for it. He seems to have quite a few defenders.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

This kind of relates to the point I made early about how the two acting like they are a single organism instead of two separate players rubs people the wrong way. Nobody knows how to deal with that, myself included.

Well if that's what irks everyone it can easily be explained. we share a thing called empathy. where we can feel each others emotions and how we feel towards one another

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empathy

its why sometimes we look like we act as one

The problem is that it doesn't guarantee you two will roll the same alignment.

It's awesome for you to be like that in real life, but here, there is a high probability one of you is manipulating the other one. And the rest of us.

[Turnip Head]

I am going to drop a vote on TH. I'm going to go help LC cook dinner and then I should be back on time to see if I want to change my mind.

Linki: I'm still going to watch you for now. I want to see what SVS says about you.

That Linki was for Turnip

Oh believe me I know you're watching and I know what you expect from me.

[Sloonei]

I'm gonna finish this game out cuz I know the hosts are having difficulty finding replacements and I do indeed appreciate the warm welcome I got, but this will likely be my last game here. I understand suspecting people for legitimate reasons but suspecting myself or ika because we play different or are defending each other from playstyle type lynches is not all that enticing for me to want to continue here.

I do not think anyone is sincerely voting either of you simply because your playstles are unfamiliar, and that sort of thing certainly is not a reflection of this community in any way. I haven't been here all that long, but the people here are pretty dedicated to ensuring that everyone has a chance to enjoy every game as much as possible.
But also, like I've said earlier, the two of you have combined to be a very noticeable pairing in thos game, and so it's only natural that you've been the topic(s) of a lot of conversation. Not everyone suspectd ika, and very few people seem to suspect you. We just needed to discuss things to make sense of them.

[Golden]

Golden, how can you tell the difference between Matt's tunneling? I don't see a difference.

It's over the top, he is making no effort to try and use rational thought in relation to it (compare to his case on Mac in TH, for example, where he actually engaged with the rational arguments against it, even if he didn't agree with them - here he is criticising the idea that any further defence is even relevant) - he has taken it to quite an extreme level, that I just do not buy at all.

[ika]

I'm gonna finish this game out cuz I know the hosts are having difficulty finding replacements and I do indeed appreciate the warm welcome I got, but this will likely be my last game here. I understand suspecting people for legitimate reasons but suspecting myself or ika because we play different or are defending each other from playstyle type lynches is not all that enticing for me to want to continue here.

I love you!

And FTR, silver would never do this as scum. Like i cant empathize it enough

pedit: i think thats besides the point golden. shes more upset that the sinlge person she knows (me) and is basicly her only support in the game will eb gone. yes there are other people giving some cut for it and stuff but its more then jsut pure defending

pedit2: i know it doesnt, and when we do roll scum against each other we can sense it form us. call it empathy or intuition or guts or whatever, but we have alawys had 100% accracy on reading each other in every game. If we suspect each ohter at any point we will drop jsut about everythign and try to get them lynched

[Silverwolf]

I'm gonna finish this game out cuz I know the hosts are having difficulty finding replacements and I do indeed appreciate the warm welcome I got, but this will likely be my last game here. I understand suspecting people for legitimate reasons but suspecting myself or ika because we play different or are defending each other from playstyle type lynches is not all that enticing for me to want to continue here.

Do you think it is not a fair point, to point out that all 5 of the voters of ika are also new here?

I think it is rough, to call it a knock on the Syndicate. Especially since I'm pretty sure ika is ultimately not going to get lynched for it. He seems to have quite a few defenders.

Fair enough, I don't mean to knock the Syndicate overall and I'm not trying to say that ika or myself should not be suspected or questioned or voted for legitimate reasons. I do feel like the reason people are suspecting us-and particularly ika, is because of a different playstyle, and like I said, this is very discouraging.

And let me just say this now. I'd never, ever use something like this to manipulate as scum. I do have strong feeling against emotionally manipulating people as scum, since I had a friend do it to me a long time ago. It's just not something I believe in. Me getting emotionally is definitely not an alignment tell either way.

[Tangrowth]

Hey all, I just want to remind you that we have a Mod on Duty function, and that it doesn't get utilized often enough. I know a decent number of you are new or relatively new to this site, so I'd like to emphasize this it is a unique function here designed specifically so that you can resolve personal conflicts and vent frustrations:

RULES & PROCEDURES

10. The Mod on Duty for this game is nijuukyugou. She is there for any of your questions or concerns not strictly related to game or role mechanics. Please PM her with any grievances or concerns you may have at any time, notably including conflicts with other players. Keep the thread fun and clean of emotionally-charged drama or conflicts; PM nijuukyugou instead. We want to keep this game as fun as possible for everyone.

If you have questions regarding any of this, also feel free to PM me or Daisy too and we'd be more than happy to assist. We know mafia is inevitably tense, but we want to keep everyone enjoying this game. If you feel frustrated with someone, multiple people, or just the general mood of the thread, then we want to help resolve it, and keep it from adversely affecting the game. So spam nijuu's inbox for all we care. That's what she's there for!

Thanks!

[ika]

the seconde one was at luffy.

trust me, there doesn go a moment where we have at least some parnaoia about each other. if we live for too long it does kinda make it odd. but this is also common for sucms to discredit our town reading.

like i have had a game where i was a cop and i was light town reading her but didnt trust her and was going to check her n1, she know nothing about it. so we may start wrong but in the end we always get it right

[Sloonei]

Sloonei, why is it that you said you'd be voting for either Epi or ika, yet your vote is still on SVS who, from what I can tell, hasn't been on your list for quite some time? I know you said something about not wanting to influence the votes one way or another, but wouldn't you naturally want people to side with you in a lynch against the person you find most suspicious?

I'll check this thread one more time before I leave for uni, that'll likely be around when day ends because I've got to do a fair bit. I am eagerly awaiting Matt's ISO, but I doubt I'll be here when he releases it.

I haven't had a preference between Epi and ika this whole time. Putting a vote on one of them before I'm sure will influence the way others vote in the poll, and I don't really want to do that. Yet. I am starting to feel more inclined to vote for Epi, and if I reach a point where I'm confident enough to do that, I will do it.

My vote's still on SVS because that's where it was last, but also I'm still waiting for her to respond to my now ancient questions.

[Golden]

I'm gonna finish this game out cuz I know the hosts are having difficulty finding replacements and I do indeed appreciate the warm welcome I got, but this will likely be my last game here. I understand suspecting people for legitimate reasons but suspecting myself or ika because we play different or are defending each other from playstyle type lynches is not all that enticing for me to want to continue here.

I love you!

And FTR, silver would never do this as scum. Like i cant empathize it enough

pedit: i think thats besides the point golden. shes more upset that the sinlge person she knows (me) and is basicly her only support in the game will eb gone. yes there are other people giving some cut for it and stuff but its more then jsut pure defending

pedit2: i know it doesnt, and when we do roll scum against each other we can sense it form us. call it empathy or intuition or guts or whatever, but we have alawys had 100% accracy on reading each other in every game. If we suspect each ohter at any point we will drop jsut about everythign and try to get them lynched

I believe the both of you. I think you both look good in my book.

I realise you are the only person she knows right now, but I really hope it doesn't stay true, because I think both of you would fit in well here and are the kind of people we need more of.

And I'm also saying - I really believe she will not lose her support today. I mean, I may not be all that persuasive, but I'll be at least one voice in your corner, and if nothing else I'm a bloody loud and obnoxious voice.

[Silverwolf]

Hey all, I just want to remind you that we have a Mod on Duty function, and that it doesn't get utilized often enough. I know a decent number of you are new or relatively new to this site, so I'd like to emphasize this it is a unique function here designed specifically so that you can resolve personal conflicts and vent frustrations:

RULES & PROCEDURES

10. The Mod on Duty for this game is nijuukyugou. She is there for any of your questions or concerns not strictly related to game or role mechanics. Please PM her with any grievances or concerns you may have at any time, notably including conflicts with other players. Keep the thread fun and clean of emotionally-charged drama or conflicts; PM nijuukyugou instead. We want to keep this game as fun as possible for everyone.

If you have questions regarding any of this, also feel free to PM me or Daisy too and we'd be more than happy to assist. We know mafia is inevitably tense, but we want to keep everyone enjoying this game. If you feel frustrated with someone, multiple people, or just the general mood of the thread, then we want to help resolve it, and keep it from adversely affecting the game. So spam nijuu's inbox for all we care. That's what she's there for!

Thanks!

Where I come from, all this stuff gets thrown in the thread, along with a lot of swearing, fighting, etc. While it sounds harsh, it does help with reading other players.

[Tangrowth]

if nothing else I'm a bloody loud and obnoxious voice.

Never were truer words spoken. :P

[Golden]

if nothing else I'm a bloody loud and obnoxious voice.

Never were truer words spoken. :P

Takes one to know one

[Sloonei]

Hey y'all we've got under 1 hour to go.

[Silverwolf]

I'm gonna finish this game out cuz I know the hosts are having difficulty finding replacements and I do indeed appreciate the warm welcome I got, but this will likely be my last game here. I understand suspecting people for legitimate reasons but suspecting myself or ika because we play different or are defending each other from playstyle type lynches is not all that enticing for me to want to continue here.

I love you!

And FTR, silver would never do this as scum. Like i cant empathize it enough

pedit: i think thats besides the point golden. shes more upset that the sinlge person she knows (me) and is basicly her only support in the game will eb gone. yes there are other people giving some cut for it and stuff but its more then jsut pure defending

pedit2: i know it doesnt, and when we do roll scum against each other we can sense it form us. call it empathy or intuition or guts or whatever, but we have alawys had 100% accracy on reading each other in every game. If we suspect each ohter at any point we will drop jsut about everythign and try to get them lynched

I believe the both of you. I think you both look good in my book.

I realise you are the only person she knows right now, but I really hope it doesn't stay true, because I think both of you would fit in well here and are the kind of people we need more of.

And I'm also saying - I really believe she will not lose her support today. I mean, I may not be all that persuasive, but I'll be at least one voice in your corner, and if nothing else I'm a bloody loud and obnoxious voice.

I'm of two minds with this.

On the one hand, I want to thank you.

On the other, I want to scumread you as this looks a lot like a combination of buddying and mediation that I've seen scum do before when town is fighting with other town.

So yeah, this kind of pings a bit to me.