Rocky and Bullwinkle - The Legend of Frostbite Falls [Day 8]

[sprityo]

I'm home early because whatever.

Gonna shower and get cracking.

@zebra, do you have any speculations on Bea?

erm, I might have some more in a second so stayed tuned

Linki: well I guess I won't be getting that answer

[sprityo]

Okay then, well let's ask something else then:

@LC and Wilgy. What do you think of Eloh?

[Elohcin]

What are your reads besides me and you?

Eloh
Blooper
Wilgy
LC
Bea
Sprit
Z

Notice no one is in red b/c I am making it clear that I am confused as to who is bad. And it is driving me nuts.

[sprityo]

Sprityo- This is me.

DrWilgy- im just assuming, but wilgy seems like the person who would make a great aesop. But i mean, i guess anyone could go onto the internet and find a long pun to submit now couldnt they?

LongCon- a weird position, my gut says no, but my brain is like "just give it another day or two." lot's of weird coincidences, and smart plays. We can get into the semantics of things later. Overall, I cant make a good case, just simply because i cant. Not to mention, it'd be so bad i would end up getting retorted.

Elohcin- Other gut read. Just overall, feels. Empty? like besides that she said some weird things that make me not like her.

Zebra- Most of her content is early game, got busy, and is now doing a last minute plea. hmm. I mean i would be fine with eloh then zebra (ive been fine with this for a while), but i mean, i cant stop the already going wagon unless bea wants to tie things up. on that note im voting for Elohcin since i believe zebra to be more than likely town.

Bea- damn, Bea. Back at it again with being busy all the time. but actually, her voting kinda weirds me out and thats about it.

Blooper- Blooper i can see being a town, that is there, but confused. Especially based off the sorsha lynch. I mean she had a good reason for voting, but it wasnt the BEST reason. Anything recently posted doesnt really help my analysis either so meh. I'll have to leave as null.



a rainbow chart for you all:

Sprityo
DrWilgy
Zebra
Blooper
Bea
Longcon
Eloh

im not confirming anyone particular (cause i almost never do that. Absolutes are almost never) but there you go

[sprityo]

@Blooper and Bea

if you had to vote Zebra or Eloh, which would it be?

[sprityo]

also @LC and Wilgy. Would you be willing to lynch eloh if zebra flips town?

[bea]

I have consistently felt eloh is civ while zeebs is always tough for me to read. Push comes to shove and I'm voting zeebs to save eloh.

I'm really sorry if you are civ zeebs, but I'm not getting the gut cry about you that I am for eloh.

[bea]

Also, I'm still at work.

[sprityo]

[thellama73]

Night 7

Tired of mucking about in the snow, where everything was cold and boring, the gang went on a safari. Where slow moving and inattentive zebras made for easy pickings.
zebra has been lynched. She was Boris.
You have 23 hours to submit your PMs.

[Long Con]

Anyone want to claim being seduced by Natasha?

[indiglo]

[Long Con]

sprityo, you look particularly bad with this lynch result.

[Long Con]

Host: Game-mechanics question. Does the kill pass down to Natasha when Boris dies? I assume it does, because who leaves a baddie team without a kill? I mean, you'd have to be the best baddies ever to win a game without access to a nightkill, amirite people?

Does Natasha get to keep seducing, and killing at the same time?

[sprityo]

i actually did not even see this in the slightest. and it completely changes my outlook.

[sprityo]

LC i feel if it's anyone, its blooper

[sprityo]

ebwop* that got natasha'd

[S~V~S]

[Elohcin]

WOO HOO! Haha, I cannot wait to hear about why Zebra tunneled me all game and how she would have handled it if she got me lynched. So werid, Zebra, so weird.

[Long Con]

LC i feel if it's anyone, its blooper

I agree, especially with her being Elohcin's top Civ read. I'd love to hear Elohcin and Blooper's opinions on it.

[Elohcin]

LC i feel if it's anyone, its blooper

I agree, especially with her being Elohcin's top Civ read. I'd love to hear Elohcin and Blooper's opinions on it.

You all think Blooper is the last baddie you mean?

[Long Con]

LC i feel if it's anyone, its blooper

I agree, especially with her being Elohcin's top Civ read. I'd love to hear Elohcin and Blooper's opinions on it.

You all think Blooper is the last baddie you mean?

No, we think that Blooper was Natasha'd.

Do you think she was Natasha'd? Do you think she is the last baddie?

[Elohcin]

OH, I see. Hmm, I actually don't think she was. I think she seriously thought/thinks you are bad, LC. So who could be the next candidate for that?

[Long Con]

bea or sprityo. I don't think it's Wilgy or you at this point, Eloh.

You had Nijuu as your top Civ read, why?

Nijuu, how about a rainbow list?

[Elohcin]

I'm thinking that the vote force PM might not have been sent in. And I think its either Bea or Sprit that is the last baddie.

Linki: I really believe that Niju is civ and that's saying something b/c she is usually very hard for me to read. I feel like I can read her better these days after spending so much time with her in real life.

[Elohcin]

Now, Bea was forced to vote SVS at one point, or so she says. Do you think this is true, LC or do you think that she is capable of voting SVS as a baddie and only saying she was forced?

[sprityo]

i want to hear from blooper if they were Natasha'd. And if not, i think it'd be safe to assume the Bea is the other baddie since it would mean both she and zebra didn't put in a night action. Either that or you can't make actions for AFK teammates?

Someone who's been Mafia before, tell me if you're able to make night actions for your partner if they're afk?

[Long Con]

Now, Bea was forced to vote SVS at one point, or so she says. Do you think this is true, LC or do you think that she is capable of voting SVS as a baddie and only saying she was forced?

I think that it is a smart tactical move for the baddies to fake being Natasha'd, and that it would be an unreasonable insult to bea to say that she is not capable of such a ploy. So yeah, she is suspect for it.

[Long Con]

i want to hear from blooper if they were Natasha'd. And if not, i think it'd be safe to assume the Bea is the other baddie since it would mean both she and zebra didn't put in a night action. Either that or you can't make actions for AFK teammates?

Someone who's been Mafia before, tell me if you're able to make night actions for your partner if they're afk?

That's up to the Host. I find most Hosts allow it. I allow it when I'm a Host - it's very reasonable considering that we have players from all different time zones, with work schedules and such.

No death doesn't necessarily mean a missed PM. There's protectors, roleblockers, trying to kill an unkillable role, and probably a bunch of other possibilities.

[sprityo]

Well I'm assuming moose can't roleblock a kill right. And you said you were Scrooges earlier in the game so that couldn't have happened. Both players with a survive ability are dead and squirrel is dead.

[Long Con]

Well I'm assuming moose can't roleblock a kill right. And you said you were Scrooges earlier in the game so that couldn't have happened. Both players with a survive ability are dead and squirrel is dead.

Why would you assume that? Every roleblocker I have ever seen can roleblock the kill when they target the killer. It's, like, the main goal of such a role in any game that includes it.

[sprityo]

Then only possibilities for the kill not to happen is:

1. Didn't submit kill.
2. Chose not to kill.
3. Some role blocking is allowed to block killing action?
4. LC wasn't scrooched and zebra was.

I mean, I trust LC though. A little. And if bea is town, then I will fall right on my face and die.


Linki: where I played Mafia, role blocking only blocked every other actions besides kills. Kills were their own actions

[sprityo]

So I mean if that's how it works here, than, that's a valid explanation on why it didn't happen last night

[Long Con]

Zebra posted during that phase, thus was not Scrooched. Trust me, the Scrooching is used up.

[sprityo]

Yea, you're right, I'm dumb

[sprityo]

LC, do you believe the Indy to still be alive?

[Elohcin]

Now, Bea was forced to vote SVS at one point, or so she says. Do you think this is true, LC or do you think that she is capable of voting SVS as a baddie and only saying she was forced?

I think that it is a smart tactical move for the baddies to fake being Natasha'd, and that it would be an unreasonable insult to bea to say that she is not capable of such a ploy. So yeah, she is suspect for it.

I'm not trying to insult bea. She is just very loyal to SVS all the time. I guess I was asking, do you think she would do that to SVS even if bad. From my experience, I would imagine she'd avoid lynching/killing SVS unless she HAD to.

[Long Con]

LC, do you believe the Indy to still be alive?

Maybe. I don't think it matters, I believe that Snidely would be trying to find the last baddie and end the game as much as any Civ. He has to survive, and the longer we don't lynch Natasha and end the game, the less likely it is that he'll survive and win. Half his Win Condition was achieved when Sorsha bit the dust, so I'm happy for him in that regard - especially if dead players can win if their team wins, because then Nell AND Snidely can win together! I don't remember if dead players can win in this game.

Now, Bea was forced to vote SVS at one point, or so she says. Do you think this is true, LC or do you think that she is capable of voting SVS as a baddie and only saying she was forced?

I think that it is a smart tactical move for the baddies to fake being Natasha'd, and that it would be an unreasonable insult to bea to say that she is not capable of such a ploy. So yeah, she is suspect for it.

I'm not trying to insult bea. She is just very loyal to SVS all the time. I guess I was asking, do you think she would do that to SVS even if bad. From my experience, I would imagine she'd avoid lynching/killing SVS unless she HAD to.

Ohhhh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, she might have some sympathy toward S~V~S as her friend, and not push her lynch. Then again, she might do it intentionally to make us think that - it's not like they're married or anything. (Whereas BR might kill me if I forced a vote that ended up with her lynched)

[thellama73]

Host: Game-mechanics question. Does the kill pass down to Natasha when Boris dies? I assume it does, because who leaves a baddie team without a kill? I mean, you'd have to be the best baddies ever to win a game without access to a nightkill, amirite people?

Does Natasha get to keep seducing, and killing at the same time?

These are all good questions.

[thellama73]

Let's get those PMs in, folks.

[S~V~S]

I am dead, I don;t send in PMs

[nijuukyugou]

Take foot. Insert in mouth. Rinse and repeat.

Sorry, LC - I guess you're just a guy who happens to be standing next to a brand new Honda Odyssey, handing out candy :P

I wasn't Natasha'd - I was seriously tinfoiling, and am still a little paranoid (as I always am in mafia - I hate being tricked, and it's a wonder I continue to play sometimes). So I'm thinking, similarly to others, that Natasha failed to send in her night action, as no one is claiming to be forced.

Rainbow list? I'll do nothing of the sort, for I hate them But I will say that I trust Eloh, as I've stated and explained before, and am feeling hella better about LC after that lynch (I'll always have a bit of paranoia regarding you, and if you've tricked me this time, I'll never, ever trust you again, ever). What gives me pause about bea's vote is that it sealed the deal with zebra, so that makes me think she's good, but the inactivity regarding Natasha could point to her as well. sprityo does look pretty bad in that lynch. I'm going to be paranoid (okay, that's three times using the word, so no more of that) until the very end, because shit, Wilgy could still be bad and hiding behind a bussing vote, as could anyone on the zebra vote, but if I'm going to simplify things, sprityo looks the worst. Followed by bea.

There. I've spoken. Let's see what happens.

[Golden]

Take foot. Insert in mouth. Rinse and repeat.

Are you rinsing the foot or the mouth?

[Long Con]

Let's get those PMs in, folks.

If all the PMs come in, will we have an early night post?

[nijuukyugou]

Take foot. Insert in mouth. Rinse and repeat.

Are you rinsing the foot or the mouth?

Well, they're really tentacles, so they're always rinsed :P

[Elohcin]

I think bea's vote being last on zebra actually make her look worse, not better. I mean, she could have thought, well, my partner is already being lynched, I might as well vote her for some cred.

[thellama73]

Let's get those PMs in, folks.

If all the PMs come in, will we have an early night post?

Since we had a chaotic weekend and people are still being slow with their PMs, I will start the next day tomorrow morning and we can get back on our regular morning schedule. Right now, I'm going to bed.

[Elohcin]

Let's get those PMs in, folks.

If all the PMs come in, will we have an early night post?

Since we had a chaotic weekend and people are still being slow with their PMs, I will start the next day tomorrow morning and we can get back on our regular morning schedule. Right now, I'm going to bed.

Goodnight!

[indiglo]

Since we had a chaotic weekend and people are still being slow with their PMs, I will start the next day tomorrow morning and we can get back on our regular morning schedule. Right now, I'm going to bed.

Nighty night! PS, I am still thoroughly enjoying (and actively following) this game. That is a rare thing for me. You are doing a great job Llama!

I wonder who I'll be voting for tomorrow....

[Marmot]

Since we had a chaotic weekend and people are still being slow with their PMs, I will start the next day tomorrow morning and we can get back on our regular morning schedule. Right now, I'm going to bed.

Nighty night! PS, I am still thoroughly enjoying (and actively following) this game. That is a rare thing for me. You are doing a great job Llama!

I wonder who I'll be voting for tomorrow....

Vote for me!!!