[END] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

[S~V~S]

That was at Quin~ i forgot to quote him.

[Golden]

Linki Golden, Zebra is a cop? That's the only thing that makes sense to me right now.

There is one other explanation that makes sense to me.

What letter does it start with?

C is for Cookie, Cookie starts with C... cookie cookie cookie starts with C.

[a2thezebra]

On top of that, he's been giving black and white statements ever since EoD2, which I do not like.

This is the main thing that's been bothering me about Golden.

[Golden]

Turnip Head
Scotty
thellama73
Nerolunar
sig

Silverwolf
indiglo
agleaminranks
Soneji
Metalmarsh89

Serge
Quin
Golden
Sloonei
S~V~S

chaindeath
Draconus
Boomslang
Dragon D. Luffy
Matt 2.0

Epignosis
ika

Sig and TH look terrible. How can you have them both in your most civilian reads?

Neither of them look terrible, please stop pretending that they do.

Oh, really? Sig defending fuzz hard and saving him with his vote doesn't look terrible? Why?

[Golden]

On top of that, he's been giving black and white statements ever since EoD2, which I do not like.

This is the main thing that's been bothering me about Golden.

Why?

I mean, besides the fact that I've turned on many of my reads, both town and scum, so it's blatantly false.

[a2thezebra]

Linki Golden, Zebra is a cop? That's the only thing that makes sense to me right now.

There is one other explanation that makes sense to me.

What letter does it start with?

C is for Cookie, Cookie starts with C... cookie cookie cookie starts with C.

Wrong.

[a2thezebra]

On top of that, he's been giving black and white statements ever since EoD2, which I do not like.

This is the main thing that's been bothering me about Golden.

Why?

I mean, besides the fact that I've turned on many of my reads, both town and scum, so it's blatantly false.

"blatantly false"

This in itself is a black and white statement. We're not referring to your reads and you know it.

[S~V~S]

On top of that, he's been giving black and white statements ever since EoD2, which I do not like.

This is the main thing that's been bothering me about Golden.

Well, he is not bad so you can stop being bothered

[a2thezebra]

Turnip Head
Scotty
thellama73
Nerolunar
sig

Silverwolf
indiglo
agleaminranks
Soneji
Metalmarsh89

Serge
Quin
Golden
Sloonei
S~V~S

chaindeath
Draconus
Boomslang
Dragon D. Luffy
Matt 2.0

Epignosis
ika

Sig and TH look terrible. How can you have them both in your most civilian reads?

Neither of them look terrible, please stop pretending that they do.

Oh, really? Sig defending fuzz hard and saving him with his vote doesn't look terrible? Why?

Why does it look terrible? You honestly think sig would do that as a teammate? Please.

[Golden]

I'm switching my vote to Sig, spread out votes aren't helping us this game.

I don't really understand the Llama suspicion. He seems rather neutral this game. Quin, can you tell me why you have Golden in red?

Linki Golden, Zebra is a cop? That's the only thing that makes sense to me right now.

My primary suspicion of Golden is linked with the situation in which I see Scotty as scum. Quite simply he attempted to defend Scotty in an accusation I made of him, without really addressing the issue at hand. It seemed weak and completely off to me. I'm also taking into account Luffy's points that Golden took the front seat for the fuzz lynch, when he didn't actually spearhead anything himself. On top of that, he's been giving black and white statements ever since EoD2, which I do not like.

Luffy's idea that I 'didn't actually spearhead anything myself' can only possibly read as true if you weren't there in the moment. To anyone who was there, its clear I did. That includes you. The posts didn't develop in a linear fashion, we were all posting over each other and getting massive linki, and here is the biggest misrepresentation that he gives... that it was not me that put Fuzz's name in to the CFD pool. Because it WAS me. Yes, silverwolf and ika posted about fuzz the two posts before mine, but neither of them threw him into the pool. TH had the idea of the CFD, but I stated the six xpeople who we needed to get onto the same page, and worked to get us onto one page really hard, along with SVS and sloonei. Like, to be there and think that I wasn't spearheading that is really disingenuous.

[a2thezebra]

On top of that, he's been giving black and white statements ever since EoD2, which I do not like.

This is the main thing that's been bothering me about Golden.

Well, he is not bad so you can stop being bothered

Relax, he's a yellow read. Bottom 10 but not bottom 5.

[Golden]

Linki Golden, Zebra is a cop? That's the only thing that makes sense to me right now.

There is one other explanation that makes sense to me.

What letter does it start with?

C is for Cookie, Cookie starts with C... cookie cookie cookie starts with C.

Wrong.

Really?

In that case, I'm happy voting for sig. I'd have to be right for sig to be good.

[Golden]

On top of that, he's been giving black and white statements ever since EoD2, which I do not like.

This is the main thing that's been bothering me about Golden.

Well, he is not bad so you can stop being bothered

Relax, he's a yellow read. Bottom 10 but not bottom 5.

No, what SVS is saying is I AM NOT SCUM.

Like, there is literally no world on which any person should have me at any less than confirmed town, and any one who knows me knows it.

[a2thezebra]

On top of that, he's been giving black and white statements ever since EoD2, which I do not like.

This is the main thing that's been bothering me about Golden.

Well, he is not bad so you can stop being bothered

Relax, he's a yellow read. Bottom 10 but not bottom 5.

No, what SVS is saying is I AM NOT SCUM.

Like, there is literally no world on which any person should have me at any less than confirmed town, and any one who knows me knows it.

I know what SVS said. It's not exactly open to interpretation.

Explain how you are confirmed town. We weren't raised in the same household but I think I know you a decent amount, and I'm not seeing it.

[Turnip Head]

Here's my list.

Golden
S~V~S
sig
thellama73
Nerolunar
Silverwolf
Quin

a2thezebra
indiglo
agleaminranks
ika

Serge
Sloonei
Metalmarsh89
Soneji
Draconus

chaindeath
Epignosis
Boomslang
Dragon D. Luffy

Matt 2.0

[Golden]

@zebra - you don't know me enough. I haven't played this style of game since rev mafia.

[S~V~S]

On top of that, he's been giving black and white statements ever since EoD2, which I do not like.

This is the main thing that's been bothering me about Golden.

Well, he is not bad so you can stop being bothered

Relax, he's a yellow read. Bottom 10 but not bottom 5.

He has been taking alot of flak, and he is probably the civviest person in this thread after Silver imo. And I absolutely hate the thrust at him. Ever since Fuzz' lynch people have been trying to turn this onto the Fuzz voters, and Golden primarily, and that is just a baddie look to me.

[Golden]

You might say Who Framed Roger Rabbit, my first game here, was sort of like this.

[Quin]

Well, I am happy with my Quin vote as my final vote. He was the last LC voter, he was an ika voter. Most of his posts got my Scooby senses tingling.

Linki, You did not read all of my posts then if you think that, Quin.

I did not miss them. However, you are missing mine. I was the first ika voter. That means something. I admitted to saving sig and went between voting LC and Nero. That means something. Hell, I was the first to discuss creating rainbow lists. THAT means something. I feel like you are ignoring everything for the sake of an easy follow up lynch. You need to address these points. Until you do, all I can see in your posts is scum.

[a2thezebra]

@zebra - you don't know me enough. I haven't played this style of game since rev mafia.

I see. Well since you know that I don't know you enough, you shouldn't expect me to take your word for it that you're confirmed town. You shouldn't expect me to take S~V~S' word for it either. I need meat, real meat.

[Epignosis]

Now everyone should switch to someone else.

Very well.

[Turnip Head]

Somehow I missed Black Rock. Black Rock is in the middle for me.

[Black Rock]

@BR, btw, as one of the few people in this game who has known me a long time, would you be able to say what you think of me this game?

I believe you are a civvie. You are definitely playing your civ game.

[Quin]

I think you can all interpret that conversation as SVS taking a wee bit of a drop on my list.

[a2thezebra]

On top of that, he's been giving black and white statements ever since EoD2, which I do not like.

This is the main thing that's been bothering me about Golden.

Well, he is not bad so you can stop being bothered

Relax, he's a yellow read. Bottom 10 but not bottom 5.

He has been taking alot of flak, and he is probably the civviest person in this thread after Silver imo. And I absolutely hate the thrust at him. Ever since Fuzz' lynch people have been trying to turn this onto the Fuzz voters, and Golden primarily, and that is just a baddie look to me.

Do you think I'm doing any of this by not reading him as confirmed town? I've voiced my discontent over CFDs but I have not tried to turn anything onto the Fuzz voters other than to say that I'm sure there was at least a few baddies on that wagon. No one specific, but I don't see any other possibility. Golden is a yellow read. If he's one of the civviest peeople in this thread, he can take whatever thrust is thrown at him. No one is safe from suspicion.

[Golden]

On top of that, he's been giving black and white statements ever since EoD2, which I do not like.

This is the main thing that's been bothering me about Golden.

Well, he is not bad so you can stop being bothered

Relax, he's a yellow read. Bottom 10 but not bottom 5.

He has been taking alot of flak, and he is probably the civviest person in this thread after Silver imo. And I absolutely hate the thrust at him. Ever since Fuzz' lynch people have been trying to turn this onto the Fuzz voters, and Golden primarily, and that is just a baddie look to me.

Do you think I'm doing any of this by not reading him as confirmed town? I've voiced my discontent over CFDs but I have not tried to turn anything onto the Fuzz voters other than to say that I'm sure there was at least a few baddies on that wagon. No one specific, but I don't see any other possibility. Golden is a yellow read. If he's one of the civviest peeople in this thread, he can take whatever thrust is thrown at him. No one is safe from suspicion.

Except, apparently, sig, who is the civviest of civs? Why?

[Turnip Head]

I missed Scotty too. Am I drunk? Scotty's another yellow.

[S~V~S]

Well, I am happy with my Quin vote as my final vote. He was the last LC voter, he was an ika voter. Most of his posts got my Scooby senses tingling.

Linki, You did not read all of my posts then if you think that, Quin.

I did not miss them. However, you are missing mine. I was the first ika voter. That means something. I admitted to saving sig and went between voting LC and Nero. That means something. Hell, I was the first to discuss creating rainbow lists. THAT means something. I feel like you are ignoring everything for the sake of an easy follow up lynch. You need to address these points. Until you do, all I can see in your posts is scum.

OK, lol.

I am not missing yours.

Shortly before the Fuzz lynch ended:

no one ever voiced anything about fuzz until know.

This is what I am struggling to understand. It's why I am on principle refusing to vote for fuzz.

BAM, that wipes out your "first vote for Fuzz"

And you yourself seem to be saying your LC vote is suspect.

I have no worries going up on your list

[S~V~S]

ebwop, first vote for ikanot fuzz

[a2thezebra]

On top of that, he's been giving black and white statements ever since EoD2, which I do not like.

This is the main thing that's been bothering me about Golden.

Well, he is not bad so you can stop being bothered

Relax, he's a yellow read. Bottom 10 but not bottom 5.

He has been taking alot of flak, and he is probably the civviest person in this thread after Silver imo. And I absolutely hate the thrust at him. Ever since Fuzz' lynch people have been trying to turn this onto the Fuzz voters, and Golden primarily, and that is just a baddie look to me.

Do you think I'm doing any of this by not reading him as confirmed town? I've voiced my discontent over CFDs but I have not tried to turn anything onto the Fuzz voters other than to say that I'm sure there was at least a few baddies on that wagon. No one specific, but I don't see any other possibility. Golden is a yellow read. If he's one of the civviest peeople in this thread, he can take whatever thrust is thrown at him. No one is safe from suspicion.

Except, apparently, sig, who is the civviest of civs? Why?

sig isn't safe from suspicion. If I suspect him I'll voice whatever suspicion I have. But the fact that I haven't been pinged by him yet combined with the fact that the opposition against him is remarkably over-the-top and overtly disingenuous (his voting record makes him bad? REALLY?) does indeed make him the civviest of civs at this time.

[Quin]

What do you all think about llama right now? Do you think his sudden declaration of activity to be a bit convenient given Silver's decision to start looking at inactives? Or is llama prone to these bursts of inactivity/activity due to work?

[a2thezebra]

Well, besides Turnip, Scotty, Llama, and Nero anyway.

[a2thezebra]

What do you all think about llama right now? Do you think his sudden declaration of activity to be a bit convenient given Silver's decision to start looking at inactives? Or is llama prone to these bursts of inactivity/activity due to work?

The latter.

[S~V~S]

Llama has been on hiatus for a while, he is easing back into playing. I am not seeing anything worrisome about him.

[thellama73]

Who likes rainbows?

The asterix's are there on players who I feel like they aren't saying enough for me to get a read on them. It might have something to do with timezone differences but I'm just not feeling the same presence for them as I am for other players

The names are in no particular order, either.

Epignosis
Silverwolf

indiglo
chaindeath
Turniphead
sig

a2thezebra
agleaminranks*
Boomslang*
Draconus*
Dragon D. Luffy
Matt 2.0
metalmarsh89
S~V~S
Serge*
Soneji*
ika

thellama73
Sloonei
Nerolunar

Golden
Scotty

Let's compare.

Ooh, Quin doesn't trust me. Makes me feel good about Quin.

[Golden]

Except, apparently, sig, who is the civviest of civs? Why?

sig isn't safe from suspicion. If I suspect him I'll voice whatever suspicion I have. But the fact that I haven't been pinged by him yet combined with the fact that the opposition against him is remarkably over-the-top and overtly disingenuous (his voting record makes him bad? REALLY?) does indeed make him the civviest of civs at this time.

Oh, so we should simply expect all baddies to bus then? Voting records are irrelevant?

How is it disingenuous to see sig as demonstrating intent - in both thread and vote - to save fuzz?

[thellama73]

What do you all think about llama right now? Do you think his sudden declaration of activity to be a bit convenient given Silver's decision to start looking at inactives? Or is llama prone to these bursts of inactivity/activity due to work?

The latter.

I was legit in Cincinnati for the weekend working. You can check. There is video and photo documentation.

[Turnip Head]

What do you all think about llama right now? Do you think his sudden declaration of activity to be a bit convenient given Silver's decision to start looking at inactives? Or is llama prone to these bursts of inactivity/activity due to work?

He was out of town. I can't remember if he said that in this thread or another one. I don't think it has any bearing on what Silverwolf said.

I think he genuinely thinks Luffy is bad and is trying to get him lynched. Civ read for me.

[Quin]

Well, I am happy with my Quin vote as my final vote. He was the last LC voter, he was an ika voter. Most of his posts got my Scooby senses tingling.

Linki, You did not read all of my posts then if you think that, Quin.

I did not miss them. However, you are missing mine. I was the first ika voter. That means something. I admitted to saving sig and went between voting LC and Nero. That means something. Hell, I was the first to discuss creating rainbow lists. THAT means something. I feel like you are ignoring everything for the sake of an easy follow up lynch. You need to address these points. Until you do, all I can see in your posts is scum.

OK, lol.

I am not missing yours.

Shortly before the Fuzz lynch ended:

no one ever voiced anything about fuzz until know.

This is what I am struggling to understand. It's why I am on principle refusing to vote for fuzz.

BAM, that wipes out your "first vote for Fuzz"

And you yourself seem to be saying your LC vote is suspect.

I have no worries going up on your list

No it doesn't.
No I'm not.

Elaborate.

linki: I suppose I'll move llama back to a neutral yellow, then. That was my basis for suspecting him.

linki 2.0: how about now?

[Turnip Head]

Except, apparently, sig, who is the civviest of civs? Why?

sig isn't safe from suspicion. If I suspect him I'll voice whatever suspicion I have. But the fact that I haven't been pinged by him yet combined with the fact that the opposition against him is remarkably over-the-top and overtly disingenuous (his voting record makes him bad? REALLY?) does indeed make him the civviest of civs at this time.

Oh, so we should simply expect all baddies to bus then? Voting records are irrelevant?

How is it disingenuous to see sig as demonstrating intent - in both thread and vote - to save fuzz?

If Fuzz flipped town (or if ika flipped bad), sig would have looked like a goddamn hero.

The evidence against him doesn't convince me. But it looks like you're getting the easy sig lynch that you wanted

[S~V~S]

Quin, Yes it does, and yes you are

Your posts speak for themselves, You don't need commentary from me.

[Quin]

I do, because you are not making sense.

[S~V~S]

Sure I am.

[Quin]

...Are you really going to argue that? What do I gain by pretending not to understand? What do you gain by refusing to elaborate on your point?

Please lynch SVS.

[ika]

This doesn't concern you, Ika. Run along now and let the wolf defend herself. Your rapid protection of her is tedious.

it 100% concerns me. when shes i sbeing attacked for misreprestive reasons i will defend it.

if you quote the very post that say what your accusations are, i will gladly let her answer but i want to see where your pulling your accusation form

She's town, you're not.

Show me the post where I called lama scum I bet you can't find any. Also care to make a case for the vote or is it just cus I disagree

What a baffling request. I made no claim that you called llama scum. Your posts are disingenuous, you're making the case for me right here.

So you admit you have no case on me. Good to know.

Your saying llama is town I'm not is an implication that I was somewhere scum reading lama

I'm at work but I'm on break room doing rugs so ya it's not at all

[thellama73]

What do you all think about llama right now? Do you think his sudden declaration of activity to be a bit convenient given Silver's decision to start looking at inactives? Or is llama prone to these bursts of inactivity/activity due to work?

The latter.

I was legit in Cincinnati for the weekend working. You can check. There is video and photo documentation.

Here is a photo of me working, doubters.

[Golden]

Except, apparently, sig, who is the civviest of civs? Why?

sig isn't safe from suspicion. If I suspect him I'll voice whatever suspicion I have. But the fact that I haven't been pinged by him yet combined with the fact that the opposition against him is remarkably over-the-top and overtly disingenuous (his voting record makes him bad? REALLY?) does indeed make him the civviest of civs at this time.

Oh, so we should simply expect all baddies to bus then? Voting records are irrelevant?

How is it disingenuous to see sig as demonstrating intent - in both thread and vote - to save fuzz?

If Fuzz flipped town (or if ika flipped bad), sig would have looked like a goddamn hero.

The evidence against him doesn't convince me. But it looks like you're getting the easy sig lynch that you wanted

OK, but Fuzz didn't flip town, right? And his teammates knew he wouldn't...

The evidence sig is town is, at the moment, some people defending him but who aren't willing to get on the ground and actually give behaviours that look town. They just reject the behaviours that look bad as unconvincing, as you have.

[Golden]

...Are you really going to argue that? What do I gain by pretending not to understand? What do you gain by refusing to elaborate on your point?

Please lynch SVS.

So, you are saying when TH called for a CFD, and SVS figured out the case on Fuzz, she was going out of her way to bus?

I mean, SVS would bus a teammate if she had to, but I can't see her ever going out of her way to choose her teammate as the target when they weren't before.

[Turnip Head]

What do you all think about llama right now? Do you think his sudden declaration of activity to be a bit convenient given Silver's decision to start looking at inactives? Or is llama prone to these bursts of inactivity/activity due to work?

The latter.

I was legit in Cincinnati for the weekend working. You can check. There is video and photo documentation.

Here is a photo of me working, doubters.

That doesn't look like you're working. That looks like you're just checking out the guy in the suit.

[Quin]

What do you all think about llama right now? Do you think his sudden declaration of activity to be a bit convenient given Silver's decision to start looking at inactives? Or is llama prone to these bursts of inactivity/activity due to work?

The latter.

I was legit in Cincinnati for the weekend working. You can check. There is video and photo documentation.

Here is a photo of me working, doubters.

I don't know, that's a really scummy looking moustache.