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sig wrote:This would be ironic but maybe true. However, all these prisoners talking are confusing me.Turnip Head wrote:I don't think these prisoners escaped. I think we joined them, and now we're all in Hell.
Epi why are you lynching me before yesterday you never even mentioned me?
Tell me prisoners is the rumors about dropping soap true? :P
ika wrote:This game......
I am on break but someone have meta on mp07 and how he would do this/mechanic wise? Or any games similar?
as a host. 
Point me to the bacon and I will fry potatoes in that shit.Scotty wrote:If it comes to it, chaindeath. I could humor a sig lynch, but my paranoia is setting in again that it's just too easy. The whole thing has been too easy and yet we keep falling short of lynching him because it's too easy. Is this finally the day we lynch him to settle our fears?Sloonei wrote:Scotty, who would you vote for after Quin?
The thing is, we've given sig ample time to form a civ likeness and he hasn't really come out of his shell, after 2 save opportunities.
I just think that Quin's reads are all wrong and he is more likely to be bad.
But I do see the premise of lynching sig in that he is more likely to give us information.
Linki: well there ya go. Prisoner votes count. That's just great. Those 9 of you unaffiliated ruffians better use some good judgment because we're counting on you to kill the cops that put you in the slammer in the first place.
why with that limitation? What has she done that we have not seen that makes her behavior this phase so call out worthy?Sloonei wrote:Speaking of indiglo, I want her to name a suspect or two who is/are not currently being widely suspected in the thread.
Prisoner 740359 wrote:I don't, actually, but it would be nice to scare the bejeesus out of Golden.Prisoner 640326 wrote:I think all Prisoners should unite and determine the outcome of the lynch poll
I asked you in an earlier post what your thoughts were on the Sig votes and on Sig himself. I don't have many posts and they're not very long so I understand missing it.Silverwolf wrote:What question is that? I don't think did is a suspect. I'm voting for ika cuz he's buddying the fuck out of me.Draconus wrote:I had something typed up, had to go back to work, came back to post, and it disappeared. FML.
Why?ika wrote:in that case im voting draconous for now
im saddened that silver thinks my budding is scum. shes should knwo thats the nullest of null tells
I had a comment on DDL because he's being brought up as a lynch candidate: I feel good about him because of his actions surrounding the Fuzz situation.
Sig: I don't think Silver answered my question, but this to anyone who wants to answer. Why is Sig a suspect? I've read some of the more recent discussions surrounding him but I still don't know.
Matt wrote:Hrm.ika wrote:its opinion. when i say someoes town its mostly opion but my phraseing can eb oddS~V~S wrote:ika you have info? Or is this your opinion? You are stating it as a fact. When we do that here, it tends to be a hint of sorts most of the time. Not always, but more often than not.
We should lynch ika. And if he turns up bad, we lynch SVS next for this back and forth here which presents us with "awww ika just has odd phrasing, no wonder he phrased that 'sloonei was the failed arrest' thing the way he did."
Derp.
Just don't open any presents from himPrisoner 413022 wrote:ika wrote:This game......
I am on break but someone have meta on mp07 and how he would do this/mechanic wise? Or any games similar?
yes. I could. And do.
And I can see his wife indulging his
You should all be very afraid.
Or maybe you should, since in Avant-Garde 2 you had to open the present in order to deactivate the bomb. :PDraconus wrote:Just don't open any presents from himPrisoner 413022 wrote:ika wrote:This game......
I am on break but someone have meta on mp07 and how he would do this/mechanic wise? Or any games similar?
yes. I could. And do.
And I can see his wife indulging his
You should all be very afraid.
I for one, look forward to hearing what Blondy has to say about this one.Prisoner 920077 wrote:Okay, so I'm going to have to provide individual, very particular bits of gem that I find interesting, due to the massive task of reading a 43-page game.
Before Golden said the tie was with gleam, I assumed, looking at the poll, that it was with Epignosis, so I started working from there. Working from the point where we know a baddie was in trouble is always easier.
So, I think there is a decent chance Epignosis is a cop.
His game, up until Fuzz started taking votes, was mainstream and fine, nothing to pinpoint in any way.
Then Fuzz made his vote, people noticed, he started taking on votes quickly.
So Epig asks what's up? No great answers. Then he posts that he will make sure to break the tie, sounding srsbsns:Spoiler: show
He then asks again for information:Spoiler: show
That was at 4:38 my time. At 4:39 my time, just one minute later, Enrique answers him:Spoiler: show
At 4:41, just two more minutes later, now only 3 minutes from Epig's post asking for reasons, Sloonei also provides an answer:Spoiler: show
Now follow me even more closely, we're going into SECONDS now.Spoiler: show
4:41 again, still 3 minutes after asking about Fuzz, he actually says nothing about Fuzz or the responses to his question, which have just occurred, but votes... a2thzebra?
Here's the seconds... Sloonei's post answering Epig's question was at 4:41:02. Epig's vote post for a2thezebra was at 4:41:13, eleven seconds apart. The point? No one types a post in 11 seconds. Especially not a post where a word is underlined, which requires a bit more typing, or clicking of buttons. Sloonei's post had to show up in linkitis before Epig got his post sent. The point is that Epig absolutely HAD to have seen Sloonei's post explaining the votes on Fuzz, and in all likelihood saw Enrique's as well, but ignored them completely and dodged the fucking very tie he said he would break, with no explanation.Spoiler: show
Incidentally, he posted again at 4:44. Basically, all evidence points to Epig getting the information he wanted to break the tie he said he would break, but then he... didn't, and tossed his vote away. Sorry, but Epignosis doesn't do that. Also, if he says he will break a tie, and asks for info, and he's civ, he won't then fabricate a nothing vote at the last second and not even comment on the thing he got people to tell him about
Epig's bad. you're welcome.
Prisoner 509378 wrote:I understand your trepidation, but I don't agree. The basic premise of DDL's content at that point in the game wasn't "don't lynch Fuzz", but rather "don't CFD". This means to me that when Sloonei presented another alternative option (Matt), a baddie DDL would have had no choice but to stick to his prior strategic stance: that moving votes around is inherently a bad idea. Also, imagine the crap he'd be taking now if he had taken Sloonei up on this. The progression would have [potentially, from his mindset] been:indiglo wrote:Ok, so I found the post of Luffy's that gave me pause on suspecting him. I would love to get some more input on this.
During the CFD of Fuzz, Luffy put up some resistance. Gleam was his first choice (no judgment there), but after a bit of time he decided to join us in the Fuzz lynch. I went back to read that whole section to get context. At this point, I believe Fuzz and ika were tied. Sloon offered up the option of switching to Matt 1.0. Then, Luffy responded like this:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:No.Sloonei wrote:because he needed to vote, and maybe all three of them are townies and he just wanted to send any one of them to jail.sig wrote:Why would mafia Fuzz pop in at endgame and vote Ike unless he was saving Gleam/Epi if this was the case why ditch both those wagons? This is the scummiest CFD since the one I lead to stop me from getting lynched when I was almost confirmed mafia
@Epi he didn't
also i put my vote on Matt. How do we all feel about that?
Godanmit guys, this isn't turbo mafia.
Which is where I'd like interpretations from others. (Maybe even those who have played with him before.) I liked this. Were he a teammate of Fuzz's... would he be more likely to try to get off the wagon and get folks to go elsewhere? Or would he ride it out and risk losing a teammate?
For further context, remember, Fuzz & ika were tied at this point, and when the poll ended (like 20 or 25 minutes after this comment from Luffy) ika actually had MORE votes than Fuzz.
Linkapalooza~
~ Sloonei and numerous others CFD to Fuzz
~ DDL protests the CFD movement of votes
~ Sloonei moves his vote to Matt and asks for feedback
~ DDL suddenly supports that vote movement, away from Fuzz (who was still at real risk of being lynched)
~ Fuzz is lynched and flips bad
This would mean that DDL's strategic stances were inconsistent, and that the only variable in existence to define the inconsistency would be whether or not Fuzz was the target of the moving votes. That would be a bright blinking neon sign that screams in capital letters "I'M FUZZ'S TEAM MATE". I think a baddie DDL is capable enough to grasp that problem and consciously avoid it -- as he would have done by opposing Sloonei's Matt vote. I think it was strategically necessary.
So she has her Ika lynch fall through, doesn't want to vote randomly yet does the very definition of it for no apparent reason(not voting isn't against the rules). The only reason I could think of for anyone doing this is to not be seen as having not voted if someone goes vote tracking.Mongoose wrote:OKay, so here's the deal. I don't feel comfortable randomly voting. Thank you for your comments, and I agree that an ika vote today is not the way to go -- I appreciate your candor. I'll be around a lot next weekend, and you'll get to see how talky I can be -- anyone remember the first year of TS when Sock and I would fill pages?
ANYWAY sorry I'm constant digressions.
Since I don't feel comfortable making a case on anyone or buying into the current ones (so I'm going to offer TurnipHead this since Vompatti or Llama or etc isn't around) -- TH - would you fancy a vote trade? I'm going to vote you for admittedly no discernible reason -- please feel free to return the favor!
Sorry crew, I've got to jet and I just Do NOT like to miss votes.
* votes TurnipHead *
This is posted and the next time Ika is on later that night he claims hes too drunk to do any reads. The next morning/afternoon, he says hes doing ISO's yet won't share them(yet in the post above it alludes to him actually posting what he finds suspicious). From my skim day 2 I had agreed with the Ika lynch but wasn't invested without reading full on with context. The ending of that day gave Ika some leeway but in my experience, knowledge slips do happen and what looks to be blatantly one by Ika about Sloonei should be acted on.ika wrote:mkay one minDrWilgy wrote:ISO me Ika.ika wrote:Sweet!Golden wrote:The general rule here is that you can talk game at night. Unless the rules specify otherwise.ika wrote:Ok im home i will be reading shorty.
Can someone tell me if we are allowed to talk game or not? im not used to being able to talk at night
Im gonna try to do some isoing does anyone have anyone spcific thatthey want em to see
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:I love how some people who are basically claiming Team Sockface.
Associates those happy with the Diiny lynch as Team Sockface, rather then potential mafiaDragon D. Luffy wrote:The people who are happy with the lynch.
Good stuff. My vote for ika comes pretty much directly from me trusting SW to read him well. I've been trusting SW up to this point. And his defenses back to her were very soft. But I don't know ika from Boo, so how do I know how he defends?Prisoner 509378 wrote:Right now I'd call Enrislang the second-most suspicious. I could be on board with that lynch too. I'd really like to hear from DDL before EOD, because I do think he has the ability to change minds if he tries and is genuine.Prisoner 920077 wrote:Boomslang showed up, didn't acknowledge the accusations against him directly, and voted for ika.
Quin, who SVS has said (and whom I trust) is most likely to be bad, has voted ika.
In short, I'll not be voting ika today. This, despite the fact that silver wolf also seems fairly trustworthy to me.
I also don't trust most of the sig bandwagoners including obviously the hated Warden, so that's out.
That leaves me with sticking with Boomslang, joining SVS on Quin which I will do if it will lead to his lynch, or DDL who I will read up on tomorrow.
That so few people see Enrique's posts around the Fuzz lynch as ping-y baffles me. It's clear as day.
Draconus wrote:I asked you in an earlier post what your thoughts were on the Sig votes and on Sig himself. I don't have many posts and they're not very long so I understand missing it.Silverwolf wrote:What question is that? I don't think did is a suspect. I'm voting for ika cuz he's buddying the fuck out of me.Draconus wrote:
Why?ika wrote:in that case im voting draconous for now
im saddened that silver thinks my budding is scum. shes should knwo thats the nullest of null tells
I had a comment on DDL because he's being brought up as a lynch candidate: I feel good about him because of his actions surrounding the Fuzz situation.
Sig: I don't think Silver answered my question, but this to anyone who wants to answer. Why is Sig a suspect? I've read some of the more recent discussions surrounding him but I still don't know.
Also, there's a history here of significant others being able to read each other very well (it's not 100% but I do remember it happening several times). Also, Matt's post below peeked my interest in ika. Can you (or anyone else) confirm that ika said Sloonei was a failed arrest?
Matt wrote:Hrm.ika wrote:its opinion. when i say someoes town its mostly opion but my phraseing can eb oddS~V~S wrote:ika you have info? Or is this your opinion? You are stating it as a fact. When we do that here, it tends to be a hint of sorts most of the time. Not always, but more often than not.
We should lynch ika. And if he turns up bad, we lynch SVS next for this back and forth here which presents us with "awww ika just has odd phrasing, no wonder he phrased that 'sloonei was the failed arrest' thing the way he did."
Derp.
ika wrote:ok so i wanted to sayt his for the longest time but i couldnt ue to psot restrciosn but......
sloon is porbally a don based on the failed arrest.
Dunno, but between your point and the points llama made about him earlier, I'm willing to vote there as well.Prisoner 509378 wrote:Voting for Dragon D. Luffy now. His CFD behavior was really bad, and his interactions with Fuzz are also less than inspiring. This will make me the only vote on DDL right now, despite numerous people suspecting him to some degree. Why?
So far, general consensus seems to be just ignore everything the Warden does and says. It's too hard to sort out and is full of WIFOM. Plus, my level of paranoia is pretty much already as high as I want it to get this game...Prisoner 813142 wrote:Greeting players and prisoners. I have returned once again.
I would like to call attention to a curious fact that I am observing in the poll. One of the top three right now is sig, with four votes. One of those votes is from the Warden, with whom I have a sort of adversarial relationship. What are the thoughts on this? Obviously the Warden is a party that most of us want to eliminate. Is it possible that the Warden placed his vote on sig in an effort to trick us using "reverse psychology"? Or is it possible that the Warden is willing to "bus" a teammate behind his sock account, knowing that his vote can't be traced backed to his "unsocked" self? Or are we basically just ignoring the Warden's vote at this point? Really, I don't know what to make of that.
I understand that you have been working - but why LC specifically? Considering his content at the time I still wonder why you chose him.chaindeath wrote:Why do you hang onto this vote for LC? Chaindeath has said it before but he supposes it bares repeating: Day 1 was buisy for him. He was highly distracted and unable to do much speculation, which is most of what you can do day one. The story hasn't changed and he supposes you are not willing to accept it. He wonders if you would have as much suspicion for him if he had said he used and RNG for the vote.Nerolunar wrote:There is a scumrole in the setup that can pose as another role when lynched.
Actually while we are on this topic, I mostly threw shade at Chaindeath at the time. My goal was not to defend LC, but I did notice Chaindeaths behavior. That was my first ping of him - he decided to vote for LC when the only thing LC had posted was his disagreement to the plan that everyone should be voted for, to trigger the traitors. Very weak reasoning from Chaindeath that he didn´t follow up on rubbed me the wrong way and still does.
However, if I notice that the support for a Chaindeath lynch is on the rise I won´t hesitate to follow that.
Regardless, I think Nero should be lynched on grounds that he's my partner, your partner, Enrique's partner, the Joker, the Riddler, the Gingerbread Man, and Toto.
As wise observation from you, as always. I shall direct my efforts elsewhere then.Prisoner 509378 wrote:I would be more inclined to investigate the Warden's WIFOM when the Warden is out of the picture. I think it'll be a lot more reasonable a task when a face is put on the sock. For now she/he's just here to sow discord. Not interested.
Read Enrique's posts from around the fuzz lynch. Boomslang replaced him, and those posts are very ping-y.Draconus wrote:What's the case on Boomslang? I don't think I've seen a single post from him.
When you're available, please answer one question: what changed? This was yesterday, still on Day 5:Draconus wrote:Also, I think I'm seeing the case on DDL now. I believe there's been enough said there to warrant a vote for now. This could change, though.
Draconus wrote:I had a comment on DDL because he's being brought up as a lynch candidate: I feel good about him because of his actions surrounding the Fuzz situation.
He basically gave me a pat reply and then has kind of stayed out of the way, none of which have changed my mind. But, you've got to fight the battles people are willing to fight, and no one is biting, so I've moved on... I'm assuming we're heading back to the slammer soon, anyway, so it's not like it's my problem!Prisoner 413022 wrote:
I for one, look forward to hearing what Blondy has to say about this one.
Hey there, cuz. I noticed this too. Do you think that Dragon and ika are just appealing "low-hanging fruit" (boy that phrase has another definition in prison!) or do you think their cases have more merit at this time than the pursuit of ePIGnosis?Prisoner 920077 wrote:He basically gave me a pat reply and then has kind of stayed out of the way, none of which have changed my mind. But, you've got to fight the battles people are willing to fight, and no one is biting, so I've moved on... I'm assuming we're heading back to the slammer soon, anyway, so it's not like it's my problem!Prisoner 413022 wrote:
I for one, look forward to hearing what Blondy has to say about this one.
I think Epig should be a main contender, but people have had their own cases building for days, so I kind of understand why they would not want to just abandon their own thought processes to jump on mine!Prisoner 813142 wrote:Hey there, cuz. I noticed this too. Do you think that Dragon and ika are just appealing "low-hanging fruit" (boy that phrase has another definition in prison!) or do you think their cases have more merit at this time than the pursuit of ePIGnosis?Prisoner 920077 wrote:He basically gave me a pat reply and then has kind of stayed out of the way, none of which have changed my mind. But, you've got to fight the battles people are willing to fight, and no one is biting, so I've moved on... I'm assuming we're heading back to the slammer soon, anyway, so it's not like it's my problem!Prisoner 413022 wrote:
I for one, look forward to hearing what Blondy has to say about this one.
Oh good lord, are you even on the same Day as we are? :oSoneji wrote:Through page 41
WIFOM, jimmy rustlin'. No way to crack "did he or didnndnt he" methinks.Prisoner 813142 wrote:Greeting players and prisoners. I have returned once again.
I would like to call attention to a curious fact that I am observing in the poll. One of the top three right now is sig, with four votes. One of those votes is from the Warden, with whom I have a sort of adversarial relationship. What are the thoughts on this? Obviously the Warden is a party that most of us want to eliminate. Is it possible that the Warden placed his vote on sig in an effort to trick us using "reverse psychology"? Or is it possible that the Warden is willing to "bus" a teammate behind his sock account, knowing that his vote can't be traced backed to his "unsocked" self? Or are we basically just ignoring the Warden's vote at this point? Really, I don't know what to make of that.
Golden as Warden? I can't see it. Warden didn't post enough for it to be Golden. Golden would have been more active in taunting us, etc. if he were that role.Prisoner 740359 wrote:
WIFOM, jimmy rustlin'. No way to crack "did he or didnndnt he" methinks.
You can ignore or you can vote to lynch him. His name being Golden.
I don't see that as indicative. Warden had to play his part, say his lines, supervise us. I wouldn't see Golden as the giddy type to give into poking, rather than execute his task to perfection, tbh.Prisoner 920077 wrote:Golden as Warden? I can't see it. Warden didn't post enough for it to be Golden. Golden would have been more active in taunting us, etc. if he were that role.Prisoner 740359 wrote:
WIFOM, jimmy rustlin'. No way to crack "did he or didnndnt he" methinks.
You can ignore or you can vote to lynch him. His name being Golden.
This is an odd assertion. Why would a townie vote disingenuously?a2thezebra wrote:I think most of the Fuzz votes are disingenuous. Maybe not all anti-town, but disingenuous.
It would be nice if we could arrest a member of the police faction today because that would enable us to deal with him or her back in prison if the Warden is capable of rounding us all back up. So far it looks like he's eaten a few too many Dunkin' Donuts today because we're all still here.Prisoner 740359 wrote:Are we on the right path towards whacking one of them coppos or is this indicative of mislynch deluge, perhaps?
Three of the nine votes are from prisoners, which concern me less when I think about the potential for baddies hopping on an errant bandwagon. Otherwise I have decent or better feelings about Golden, llama, and indiglo. Scotty is a mild suspect but his involvement doesn't scare me. I know nothing about Draconus yet. Overall I'm not worried about it.Prisoner 740359 wrote:Homie50, your thoughts on Dragon D. Luffy's wagon getting so swole? Are we on the right path towards whacking one of them coppos or is this indicative of mislynch deluge, perhaps?
So... no liquor store?Prisoner 740359 wrote:Yeah, I'm not going into any details about what might happen next to us. We'll see when we'll see.
Thank you. I will look for it when I have time.Prisoner 920077 wrote:Read Enrique's posts from around the fuzz lynch. Boomslang replaced him, and those posts are very ping-y.Draconus wrote:What's the case on Boomslang? I don't think I've seen a single post from him.
Okie.Prisoner 509378 wrote:Three of the nine votes are from prisoners, which concern me less when I think about the potential for baddies hopping on an errant bandwagon. Otherwise I have decent or better feelings about Golden, llama, and indiglo. Scotty is a mild suspect but his involvement doesn't scare me. I know nothing about Draconus yet. Overall I'm not worried about it.Prisoner 740359 wrote:Homie50, your thoughts on Dragon D. Luffy's wagon getting so swole? Are we on the right path towards whacking one of them coppos or is this indicative of mislynch deluge, perhaps?
