The Shining: Night 6

#251

Yeah it sucks a bit when you run out of things to say

#252

Snow Dog wrote:Yeah it sucks a bit when you run out of things to say

I know that feel

#253

Rereading the roles and I noticed this one:

Each night, can check a player's sanity level and PM that info to one person

Anyone at all concerned about that implication?

Also,

Can talk to Tony each night.

Who is "Tony"?

#254

From the book, I see that he's a ghost/imaginary friend/ancestral reflection of Danny (http://www.shmoop.com/shining-stephen-king/tony.html),
which I suppose means that Danny gets to gain some info every night. So never mind about that one :-)

#255

Mongoose wrote:.gnillet gnieb pu dedne sesnopser eht tub ,teews os saw tI .dab era yeht if enoyreve ksa ot emag siht ni nomiS dah ew hsiw I .noos ni etov ym teg ot gniog ma I os ,rekaerb-eit eht eb ot tnaw t'nod yllaer I ,lleW

I'm here Mongoose! Are you Duncan? If so, I'd like to shunt with you at the narrow gague railway - at the shunting yards.

#256

Nevinera wrote: Who is "Tony"?

Tony is the little boy that lives in Danny's mouth.

#257

Nevinera wrote:Rereading the roles and I noticed this one:

Each night, can check a player's sanity level and PM that info to one person
Anyone at all concerned about that implication?

I would imagine that is kind of like an affiliation checker, people who flip insane are more likely to be bad? Maybe?

What would be the bad implication of this?

#258

There is only one 'bad' role listed. I think there's a mechanic that we haven't been told about, wherein we all go more crazy as the game goes on somehow. Llama did say not to worry if you goals seem impossible, that that would change?

I could envision several mechanics that would work, and it would be a bit in theme with the setting.

#259

Well, I think that jacks insanity, for instance, would have ratcheted up once he met up with Grady. I am guessing they were potentially set to become the baddie team, perhaps. Again, I think this may be an affinity check.

You seemed to imply that you thought this was a negative power, and I am not sure why that would be. Can you tell me what I am missing?

#260

Simon wrote:
Mongoose wrote:.gnillet gnieb pu dedne sesnopser eht tub ,teews os saw tI .dab era yeht if enoyreve ksa ot emag siht ni nomiS dah ew hsiw I .noos ni etov ym teg ot gniog ma I os ,rekaerb-eit eht eb ot tnaw t'nod yllaer I ,lleW
I'm here Mongoose! Are you Duncan? If so, I'd like to shunt with you at the narrow gague railway - at the shunting yards.

Hiya Simon! I wasn't Duncan, I was Thomas himself! Glad to see you are still around.

#261

S~V~S wrote:Well, I think that jacks insanity, for instance, would have ratcheted up once he met up with Grady. I am guessing they were potentially set to become the baddie team, perhaps. Again, I think this may be an affinity check.

You seemed to imply that you thought this was a negative power, and I am not sure why that would be. Can you tell me what I am missing?

No, no, not a negative power. I think its existence implies a negative mechanic in the game - 'insanity level' reads to me like a form of accumulating value, not a characterization.
I think that people can, in various ways, get 'insanity points', and that with enough of them we start being forced to do things at night, or join the baddie team (by changing wincon), or something else.
I think that power is intended to be useless at the beginning and get more important later.

#262

Mongoose wrote:
Simon wrote:
Mongoose wrote:.gnillet gnieb pu dedne sesnopser eht tub ,teews os saw tI .dab era yeht if enoyreve ksa ot emag siht ni nomiS dah ew hsiw I .noos ni etov ym teg ot gniog ma I os ,rekaerb-eit eht eb ot tnaw t'nod yllaer I ,lleW
I'm here Mongoose! Are you Duncan? If so, I'd like to shunt with you at the narrow gague railway - at the shunting yards.
Hiya Simon! I wasn't Duncan, I was Thomas himself! Glad to see you are still around.

I was Duncan, I died like Night One

and am also glad to see you, Simon~

Linki~ OK, Nevin, that makes sense. Thanks

#263

We're all [insane] around here.

#264

RIP BTW. Wow, that was a weird kill.

Kate wrote:It seems we have to find Stephen King first and foremost (or at least that should be our first goal). How to do that, I have no idea, but that seems the way to attack this game, no?

I agree.

Bullzeye wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Just in case I get killed tonight (wouldn't surprise me, people like to kill me off, and my discussion is probably not to someone's liking), I want to voice some other thoughts, while I actually have time to do so. I won't get home until after Night 1 is over.

I found Snow Dog's self-vote weird. Why would any civvie be willing to tie himself up for the lead to die? Not sure what this tells me about his alignment at all, but I find it interesting... maybe Snow Dog could be the role who cannot be lynched?

The way yesterday's lynch went down felt kind of strange to me. I realize it's Day 1, and even I had no solid reasoning against anyone, but some people just came on and voted for no reason (Epig, Kate) or for bizarre ones (Vomps). Bullz additionally elucidated that he felt the "case" on Epig was strongest, so I'm curious if he could elaborate on that front, because in terms of actual valid reasons for voting, I hardly saw any yesterday, myself included.

This is not intended to point fingers at anyone (still being cautious on that front, I don't really feel overwhelmingly one person is baddie or anything, though I do have a few people I want to watch in particular), but rather to stimulate discussion.
'Case' was probably too strong of a term. I didn't want to vote for someone else who didn't have a vote given there was a three-way tie, and Epi was the only person in that tie for whom I could see anything resembling a reason to vote.

thellama73 wrote:Everyone has voted and sent in their PMs (except for some optional ones that I doubt will be used today is optional.) Is everyone okay with me ending the Night a little early so I can go out?
Sure.

Makes sense, thanks for clarifying.

Zany Dex wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Zany Dex wrote:I think we are looking for someone who is being blendy. Looking at the lowest posters after BWT,

Nevinera 7
Bullzeye 8
vompetti 9

All have twice as many posts than BWT though.
There's a difference between low posting and being blendy IMO. Being blendy means to go along with others and not put yourself out there at all while low posting is just not having much to say.
Yeah I agree,

I did notice MP do a complete 180 on epig when I called him about the grammar nazi comment, that's all I've noticed ATM though.

What's your point about looking at those posters, Dex? I don't necessarily think being on the low end makes anyone baddie right now, especially this early.

I didn't do a complete 180, this is like my third time explaining this. I said I was just saying that comment about possibly voting him for him being a grammar nazi in jest, I wasn't being serious. Did you not read my previous explanation?

#265

Now I know for a fact I will be gone during lunch at work tomorrow, so again I'm stuck with the unfortunate timing of having to vote tonight or in a rush in the morning before I leave.

Sucks.

#266

Nevinera wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Well, I think that jacks insanity, for instance, would have ratcheted up once he met up with Grady. I am guessing they were potentially set to become the baddie team, perhaps. Again, I think this may be an affinity check.

You seemed to imply that you thought this was a negative power, and I am not sure why that would be. Can you tell me what I am missing?
No, no, not a negative power. I think its existence implies a negative mechanic in the game - 'insanity level' reads to me like a form of accumulating value, not a characterization.
I think that people can, in various ways, get 'insanity points', and that with enough of them we start being forced to do things at night, or join the baddie team (by changing wincon), or something else.
I think that power is intended to be useless at the beginning and get more important later.

Maybe something like posting backwards is part of the insanification. Certain things that happen to us in the game that we can't control perhaps? I do wonder if this will happen to someone else or if these types of things will be different every day.

#267

Hedgeowl wrote:
Nevinera wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Well, I think that jacks insanity, for instance, would have ratcheted up once he met up with Grady. I am guessing they were potentially set to become the baddie team, perhaps. Again, I think this may be an affinity check.

You seemed to imply that you thought this was a negative power, and I am not sure why that would be. Can you tell me what I am missing?
No, no, not a negative power. I think its existence implies a negative mechanic in the game - 'insanity level' reads to me like a form of accumulating value, not a characterization.
I think that people can, in various ways, get 'insanity points', and that with enough of them we start being forced to do things at night, or join the baddie team (by changing wincon), or something else.
I think that power is intended to be useless at the beginning and get more important later.
Maybe something like posting backwards is part of the insanification. Certain things that happen to us in the game that we can't control perhaps? I do wonder if this will happen to someone else or if these types of things will be different every day.

Interesting theories here. I think you're probably onto something.

#268

Kate, did you ever explain your vote at all? I don't remember seeing a response to my question.

#269

I hope someone comes around soon to talk to me about stuff because I'm going to have to make a decision here at some point. I guess I can wait until morning but that doesn't give me much time.

#270

MovingPictures07 wrote:I hope someone comes around soon to talk to me about stuff because I'm going to have to make a decision here at some point. I guess I can wait until morning but that doesn't give me much time.

I am here! You can talk to me!

#271

thellama73 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I hope someone comes around soon to talk to me about stuff because I'm going to have to make a decision here at some point. I guess I can wait until morning but that doesn't give me much time.
I am here! You can talk to me!

Hey llama! What's up?

I am busy re-reading the thread. Hopefully will find something of note soon.

#272

Well, that wasn't particularly illuminating. Bummer.

I don't get why Kate never explained her vote for Epig, so I hope she does that. Most of us had no or crappy reasons anyway, but I'm still curious.

Zany Dex wrote:I hope if peopl consider voting a 'low poster'. They look at the field of green on the previous page (if you have it set o default)

I found this interesting because Dex later suggests today:

Zany Dex wrote:I think we are looking for someone who is being blendy. Looking at the lowest posters after BWT,

Nevinera 7
Bullzeye 8
vompetti 9

All have twice as many posts than BWT though.

Very contradictory. I can't say it makes Dex bad necessarily, but it's the only item I really noticed.

I guess if I had to vote RIGHT NOW I'd vote either Dex for that above or for Vomps because of this:

Vompatti wrote:i vote MP cos i liek grammer

It's not even so much that he voted me that even bothers me at all but just his apparent lack of paying attention to my explanation (which was BEFORE his vote) and again, ignoring that anyone else even commented on the matter (S~V~S), and yet he decided to focus on me.

I do think Snow's self-vote was weird, but I can't make heads or tails of that right now at all. Why the hell would anyone want to even do that is beyond me.

All of this being said, I feel like I really have nothing because... well, it pretty much is nothing. But I don't want to miss the vote and since I'll be gone during lunch tomorrow, I need to vote before work.... I guess I will wait until the morning.

More discussion would be nice.

#273

thellama73 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I hope someone comes around soon to talk to me about stuff because I'm going to have to make a decision here at some point. I guess I can wait until morning but that doesn't give me much time.
I am here! You can talk to me!

How was the museum?

#274

Hell, I probably will vote for Dex, unless some other major point is brought up between now and when I vote, or unless I think of something else or change my mind for some reason. Especially because Epig loves to point out contradictions, so he would probably be proud of my observation. But really just because it's the only item I noticed of someone acting in a way that seemed suspicious -- and all the while I am trying to avoid logical fallacies. Not impossible, but difficult, especially this early on in the game.

#275

Mongoose, thoughts, anything?

I'm desperate here. There's like, near nothing to go off of. Lol.

#276

Crap. Sorry for all the posts. But I need to go to bed, gotta be up early. Sigh. Hopefully there's more to go off of before I get up. I'm going to sleep on everything as well. Pretty much everyone just seems to be acting like their normal selves, so nothing to write home about, honestly.

#277

I really need to read through this entire thread before I am in shape to either converse or vote fairly. I'll be honest, I'm getting my thoughts from the Bioshock game intermingled with this game.

#278

MovingPictures07 wrote:Crap. Sorry for all the posts. But I need to go to bed, gotta be up early. Sigh. Hopefully there's more to go off of before I get up. I'm going to sleep on everything as well. Pretty much everyone just seems to be acting like their normal selves, so nothing to write home about, honestly.

I'll make sure you have some morning reading material!

#279

Maybe I was voting Zany Dex in the wrong game. Vomps may have voted for you for a nonsense reason, but I don't think it's necessarily incriminating. We were all pretty much flying by the seat of our pants.

Zany Dex, are you bad?

#280

Mongoose wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I hope someone comes around soon to talk to me about stuff because I'm going to have to make a decision here at some point. I guess I can wait until morning but that doesn't give me much time.
I am here! You can talk to me!
How was the museum?

It was okay. I thought the new exhibits were less interesting then the ones I've seen there before. They did have a cool film about the Kennedy assassination though. It featured the live radio broadcast from the day, with black and white footage of various things like bullfights and bullets going through lightbulbs in slow motion.

#281

Mongoose wrote:Maybe I was voting Zany Dex in the wrong game. Vomps may have voted for you for a nonsense reason, but I don't think it's necessarily incriminating. We were all pretty much flying by the seat of our pants.

Zany Dex, are you bad?

Ah, using the Simon approach, direct and to the point. Well done Mongoose. I would also like an answer to this question Mr. Zany.

MP- I think you are confused. The posting contest is happening in the other game. Apparently, the host there thought the game needed more discussion. Thank goodness no one thinks that here.

Ok, I'm going to reread the thread, but I think ya'll are right, we ain't got shit to go on so far.

#282

Kate wrote:Llama, shall we lynch the grammar police for you? :P

Was this Kate's reason for voting Epi perhaps?

Mongoose wrote:Oh lordy. Voting time. I sure hope no one votes for him/herself, especially in a game that Llama is hosting!

MovingPictures07 wrote:I will be voting for the first person to self-vote.

If that doesn't happen, I'm tempted to vote for Epig for trying too hard to act like the grammar police, but I'm not sure I'll actually act on that desire. I'm sure something better will emerge... I hope.

S~V~S wrote:Death to Nazis, lol~ grammar or otherwise

But srsly GNs are annoying, but not necessarily bad. Also if the host is irked with him, he is less likely to be irked with someone else, like me.

I will not vote for a low poster, or for myself, but I would consider a vote for someone who intentionally does not vote, or who self votes.

It appears that Mongoos, MP, and SVS have declared themselves anti-self-voters. However, Snow's self-vote came too late for MP to act on it. Are you considering a vote for Snow today, MP, Mongoose, or SVS?

#283

Nevinera wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I'd much rather vote for the lowest poster than for Epig being a grammar Nazi, even though it is annoying. :P

Not sure I'll do that though. However, I will have to vote either tonight or tomorrow morning before work, as I won't be back in time.
Sigh. That's probably me.. I'm just really busy lately!

I'll be extremely overly free in a couple of days when my family goes to Texas for a week;
I'm sure you'll get tired of me posting then!

I'm not really sure what I should be saying though.
I never really know what to do or think until after someone's been lynched -
how people vote on things with no obvious outcome, and how they talk on day 0
just doesn't seem to have much to do with their alignment :-\

You can lynch me if you want though.
I'll probably try to get myself lynched in a few days anyway :-P

I am curious why Nev threw himself under the bus in his second post. Why do you want to be lynched?

Nevinera wrote:From the book (I've seen the movie, but don't remember it clearly), I suspect that the hotel has an ugly win-condition.
(I hope theorizing about wincons we *don't* know is alright, Llama?)

I'm particularly worried about the 'threats' floating around - I suspect that they actually indicate some hidden knowledge about outcomes. There are a couple of characters with 'secrets', and in particular I'm concerned what might happen if we lynch the hotel itself.

(I think the bartender probably has one of those powers that can do various things - most likely with names for each capability based on proper mixed drinks. Cause I don't think Llama could help himself ;-) )

The Overlook cannot be lynched, so do you mean NK'd?

Nevinera wrote:Well, I have very little to work with, and I'm not confident I'll be around before the poll closes, so I'm going to toss one out there.

Snow? I'll vote for you, because I don't think anyone else will. Feel free to vote for me too, it won't bother me.

This plan clearly didn't work. Forced Snow to try and tie the vote, which somehow protected him? Why would he vote for himself if he was unlynchable? Just to cast doubt?

#284

@MP,that post about the sea of green was in jest because of people pointing it out in your game, another joke for all the 'low poster day one hate' we have been having lately. I like to jest

Nice post on Nev, hedgeowl, I look forward to his response.

#285

I am not voting.

#286

Snow Dog wrote:I am not voting.

Like you didn't vote yesterday either?

#287

Zany Dex wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:I am not voting.
Like you didn't vote yesterday either?

no

#288

MovingPictures07 wrote: I do think Snow's self-vote was weird, but I can't make heads or tails of that right now at all. Why the hell would anyone want to even do that is beyond me.

I don't know that it applies here, but one reason someone might want to self-vote is if lynching does not kill them, and they want people to know that. In Thomas, I was constantly surprised that snow wasn't working to get lynched - it's about the only way one can convey information about ones own role without breaking any rules.

Hedgeowl wrote:I am curious why Nev threw himself under the bus in his second post. Why do you want to be lynched?

I don't so much want to be lynched as not really mind that much. And I don't believe I'm allowed to explain why.

Hedgeowl wrote:The Overlook cannot be lynched, so do you mean NK'd?

I meant lynched - 'cannot be lynched' usually means the lynch won't *succeed*, not that we can't elect the hotel to be lynched.
Sometimes it means the runner-up gets lynched instead, but the prophecies of doom made me consider that perhaps lynching the hotel might result in some (secret) consequence. Like an exploding boiler, just as a completely random example.

Hedgeowl wrote: This plan clearly didn't work. Forced Snow to try and tie the vote, which somehow protected him? Why would he vote for himself if he was unlynchable? Just to cast doubt?

I voted for Snow because I had no reason to suspect anyone, and lynching people randomly hurts my chances of victory.
I certainly didn't expect snow to go on and tie things up, I intended for him to come vote for me too.
I certainly didn't 'force' him to do anything.

#289

Mongoose wrote:I really need to read through this entire thread before I am in shape to either converse or vote fairly. I'll be honest, I'm getting my thoughts from the Bioshock game intermingled with this game.

Welcome to the world of playing two games at once! It's fun, isn't it?

Hedgeowl wrote:
Kate wrote:Llama, shall we lynch the grammar police for you? :P
Was this Kate's reason for voting Epi perhaps?

Mongoose wrote:Oh lordy. Voting time. I sure hope no one votes for him/herself, especially in a game that Llama is hosting!

MovingPictures07 wrote:I will be voting for the first person to self-vote.

If that doesn't happen, I'm tempted to vote for Epig for trying too hard to act like the grammar police, but I'm not sure I'll actually act on that desire. I'm sure something better will emerge... I hope.

S~V~S wrote:Death to Nazis, lol~ grammar or otherwise

But srsly GNs are annoying, but not necessarily bad. Also if the host is irked with him, he is less likely to be irked with someone else, like me.

I will not vote for a low poster, or for myself, but I would consider a vote for someone who intentionally does not vote, or who self votes.
It appears that Mongoos, MP, and SVS have declared themselves anti-self-voters. However, Snow's self-vote came too late for MP to act on it. Are you considering a vote for Snow today, MP, Mongoose, or SVS?

I wasn't particularly, mostly because I can't make sense of it. But Snow Dog's declaration that he's not voting again now might just do it for me. And by might I mean I literally have to make a decision within minutes.

I've said this in game after game, and it was touched on by others in Bioshock, but self-voting makes NO SENSE if you are a civvie. If you at least random vote (which I hate, but still) you have a chance of randomly placing your vote on a baddie. If you are a civvie, all you are doing is:

1. Coping out of discussion and vote accountability
2. Voting for yourself, which if you are a civvie, is just about the WORST thing you can do

Zany Dex wrote:@MP,that post about the sea of green was in jest because of people pointing it out in your game, another joke for all the 'low poster day one hate' we have been having lately. I like to jest

Nice post on Nev, hedgeowl, I look forward to his response.

Oh, lol. Well, I suppose I owed you for you considering my behavior suspicious when I was joking as well.

I just thought it was weird, but your explanation makes sense.

Snow Dog wrote:I am not voting.

Why the hell?

#290

Nevinera wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote: I do think Snow's self-vote was weird, but I can't make heads or tails of that right now at all. Why the hell would anyone want to even do that is beyond me.
I don't know that it applies here, but one reason someone might want to self-vote is if lynching does not kill them, and they want people to know that. In Thomas, I was constantly surprised that snow wasn't working to get lynched - it's about the only way one can convey information about ones own role without breaking any rules.

That's what I was thinking, but why would you want people to know you are the unlynchable role in this case?

#291

Well, here we are. Dex's explanation makes sense, Nev's explanation makes sense, I suppose, and Kate still hasn't come back to explain her vote. Vomps's vote is ADDITIONALLY unexplained and bothersome.

However, I'm really at a loss. I don't want to vote any of this players because no one is really exhibiting behavior that indicates something strong about their alignment in a seemingly negative way, even though there are some weird decisions and lacks of explanation. But Snow Dog is apparently hellbent on not playing this game, and I can't be bothered to psyche myself out playing WIFOM with myself all day -- it's possible he's playing this whole thing just to screw with all of us just as much as it is that he benefits from being lynched.

votes Snow Dog

#292

Not liking that we seem to have someone who wants to take votes.

#293

MovingPictures07 wrote:Well, here we are. Dex's explanation makes sense, Nev's explanation makes sense, I suppose, and Kate still hasn't come back to explain her vote. Vomps's vote is ADDITIONALLY unexplained and bothersome.

It may be bothersome to you but it certainly isn't unexplained. It was either you or epig and I voted for you.

#294

Also, I'm not buying this:

MovingPictures07 wrote:However, I'm really at a loss. I don't want to vote any of this players because no one is really exhibiting behavior that indicates something strong about their alignment in a seemingly negative way, even though there are some weird decisions and lacks of explanation. But Snow Dog is apparently hellbent on not playing this game, and I can't be bothered to psyche myself out playing WIFOM with myself all day -- it's possible he's playing this whole thing just to screw with all of us just as much as it is that he benefits from being lynched.

votes Snow Dog

I don't know why Snowy would want everyone to know that he cannot be lynched, but assuming that he really cannot be lynched (which seems more likely to me than the opposite) it would be pointless to vote for him unless for some reason you don't want anyone lynched.

Even if there's a slight chance he's pulling a trick on us wouldn't you rather go for someone else at this point if you honestly wanted to lynch a baddie?

#295

MovingPictures07 wrote:Kate, did you ever explain your vote at all? I don't remember seeing a response to my question.

There isn't really much to explain. I had 15 kids at my house when I remembered I had to vote, so I grabbed my phone and looked at the poll. I remembered having some suspicion of Epi from earlier in the day over the grammar, discussion squashing talk and didn't remember having any of snow dog so I voted Epi.

I hadn't read the thread at that time and knew nothing about Snow's self vote. Not sure that would have made a difference, but I'm not positive, if I had time to read it through or not, which I didn't.

I think of that as a successful lynch. I also think that SK or the bartender would also be successful lynches so I'm not unhappy I voted where I did.

#296

Vompatti wrote:Also, I'm not buying this:

MovingPictures07 wrote:However, I'm really at a loss. I don't want to vote any of this players because no one is really exhibiting behavior that indicates something strong about their alignment in a seemingly negative way, even though there are some weird decisions and lacks of explanation. But Snow Dog is apparently hellbent on not playing this game, and I can't be bothered to psyche myself out playing WIFOM with myself all day -- it's possible he's playing this whole thing just to screw with all of us just as much as it is that he benefits from being lynched.

votes Snow Dog
I don't know why Snowy would want everyone to know that he cannot be lynched, but assuming that he really cannot be lynched (which seems more likely to me than the opposite) it would be pointless to vote for him unless for some reason you don't want anyone lynched.

Even if there's a slight chance he's pulling a trick on us wouldn't you rather go for someone else at this point if you honestly wanted to lynch a baddie?

Maybe he's just trying to WIFOM us. If he is the role that can't be lynched it would be ridiculous for him to try to get lynched because he's setting himself up for a nk. If he wants votes for some other purpose that we are not privy to, and he is this blatent about it, he is also setting himself up for a nk if he gets them. My theory is that he is trying to appear to want votes so that we will all say "I"m not giving votes to anyone who's asking for them..." and then, he evades lynch. Thoughts on that?

#297

Kate wrote:
Vompatti wrote:Also, I'm not buying this:

MovingPictures07 wrote:However, I'm really at a loss. I don't want to vote any of this players because no one is really exhibiting behavior that indicates something strong about their alignment in a seemingly negative way, even though there are some weird decisions and lacks of explanation. But Snow Dog is apparently hellbent on not playing this game, and I can't be bothered to psyche myself out playing WIFOM with myself all day -- it's possible he's playing this whole thing just to screw with all of us just as much as it is that he benefits from being lynched.

votes Snow Dog
I don't know why Snowy would want everyone to know that he cannot be lynched, but assuming that he really cannot be lynched (which seems more likely to me than the opposite) it would be pointless to vote for him unless for some reason you don't want anyone lynched.

Even if there's a slight chance he's pulling a trick on us wouldn't you rather go for someone else at this point if you honestly wanted to lynch a baddie?
Maybe he's just trying to WIFOM us. If he is the role that can't be lynched it would be ridiculous for him to try to get lynched because he's setting himself up for a nk. If he wants votes for some other purpose that we are not privy to, and he is this blatent about it, he is also setting himself up for a nk if he gets them. My theory is that he is trying to appear to want votes so that we will all say "I"m not giving votes to anyone who's asking for them..." and then, he evades lynch. Thoughts on that?

Well poop, I hadn't thought about that. I'm not sure I am reading Snow Dog's behavior as vote-mongering, like a lot of players are. I'm still curious about Zany Dexy's Midnight Runners, so we shall see how I feel about that in a couple of hours. My lunch break is at 1pm EST, so if I haven't voted by then, can someone poke me?

#298

I believe that internet is not reliable where I will be for the next 24 hours, so I am going to vote now. I am sticking with Snow Dog. I agree that I don't think it's a ploy to get votes, but his refusing to vote is definitely strange.

Votes Snow Dog

#299

I fear that the Snow Dog votes will be going to waste and for this very reason I'm *voting MP*.

#300

I'm going to go with Zany Dex because of the reasons we discussed previously.

*votes Zany Dex*

Great party, isn't it?