[END] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

[Turnip Head]

Just becasue she misjudged YOU (which just about everyone did) does not make her bad.

I know that, like I said it's the timing of everything that concerns me. I admit I have a biased point of view on this.

Is bleck ruck yuoor strungest cese-a? Bork Bork Bork!

I don't know. I haven't even read back to see how I got lynched yet.

[S~V~S]

Just becasue she misjudged YOU (which just about everyone did) does not make her bad.

I know that, like I said it's the timing of everything that concerns me. I admit I have a biased point of view on this.

Is bleck ruck yuoor strungest cese-a? Bork Bork Bork!

I think lynching BR would be an EPIC mistake.

Yuoo suoond cunfeenced Bleck Ruck is nut bed, yet I hefee't seee uny reel reesun tu effffurm thet. Cuoold yuoo pueent me-a in zee durecshun ooff ifeedentiel inffurmeshun

I have consistently said this the whole game. Make of that what you will. TBH, I should not have to keep saying it

[Prisoner 509378]

Just becasue she misjudged YOU (which just about everyone did) does not make her bad.

I know that, like I said it's the timing of everything that concerns me. I admit I have a biased point of view on this.

Is bleck ruck yuoor strungest cese-a? Bork Bork Bork!

I don't know. I haven't even read back to see how I got lynched yet.

We spent essentially the whole day phase deciding as a group whether to lynch you or Boomslang. Towards the end, the momentum moved in your direction. I think the case against you was a truly strong one so I can't immediately fault anyone for voting for you. When I look at the tally and try to find opportunists, I think the most likely candidates on your wagon are Elohcin (Serge) and chaindeath. A decent argument could be made against Quin and Dom too.

[Prisoner 509378]

I might even call Sloonei's shift opportunistic, but if he's a bad guy then I will eat my shoe and my foot inside it directly off of my leg.

[sig]

I might even call Sloonei's shift opportunistic, but if he's a bad guy then I will eat my shoe and my foot inside it directly off of my leg.

If he is a baddie I so called it.

[Epignosis]

I might even call Sloonei's shift opportunistic, but if he's a bad guy then I will eat my shoe and my foot inside it directly off of my leg.

If he is a baddie I so called it.

That would be true of anybody.

[Prisoner 509378]

I might even call Sloonei's shift opportunistic, but if he's a bad guy then I will eat my shoe and my foot inside it directly off of my leg.

If he is a baddie I so called it.

You 'd me earlier. Why?

[Sloonei]

I might even call Sloonei's shift opportunistic, but if he's a bad guy then I will eat my shoe and my foot inside it directly off of my leg.

I did the thing we all talked aboutndoing all day long. Votes were aplit evenly and we needed to fix that.

[Prisoner 509378]

I might even call Sloonei's shift opportunistic, but if he's a bad guy then I will eat my shoe and my foot inside it directly off of my leg.

I did the thing we all talked aboutndoing all day long. Votes were aplit evenly and we needed to fix that.

Yeah u good, m8

[Sloonei]

Even with all my typos?

[S~V~S]

You can never challenge me for Typo Monarch

[Sloonei]

Your clown is mine

[Prisoner 509378]

Y'all are literally playing in the same game as ika right now.

[S~V~S]

He doesn't wannna go, sorry.

[Sloonei]

Y'all are literally playing in the same game as ika right now.

Glory to the true king

[indiglo]

Just becasue she misjudged YOU (which just about everyone did) does not make her bad.

I know that, like I said it's the timing of everything that concerns me. I admit I have a biased point of view on this.

Is bleck ruck yuoor strungest cese-a? Bork Bork Bork!

I don't know. I haven't even read back to see how I got lynched yet.

We spent essentially the whole day phase deciding as a group whether to lynch you or Boomslang. Towards the end, the momentum moved in your direction. I think the case against you was a truly strong one so I can't immediately fault anyone for voting for you. When I look at the tally and try to find opportunists, I think the most likely candidates on your wagon are Elohcin (Serge) and chaindeath. A decent argument could be made against Quin and Dom too.

Exactly. I look forward to you reading back and seeing what you think TH, but I do think that looking at BR will be a waste of time. Most of the votes were well reasoned and sound, imo - and again, I felt more sure about this vote than Fuzz's. The ones I am most curious about are those who were basically absent, or hadn't been talking about TH... but just came on this wagon and voted him anyway. At the same time, some scum likely voted elsewhere (obviously), so I do want to look over the vote tally again.

With that said, I feel like I am doing a shit job sniffing out scum this game, so I am not sure I even trust myself to look over things or do re-reads.

[indiglo]

What are everyone's thoughts on Scotty?

[indiglo]

I might even call Sloonei's shift opportunistic, but if he's a bad guy then I will eat my shoe and my foot inside it directly off of my leg.

I wish he were scum, because I'm not sure if I believe you.

[Scotty]

What are everyone's thoughts on Scotty?

Black Rock do you have any thoughts on Scotty?

No on ever asks me how I feel about Scotty

Scotty how do you feel about Scotty?

finally someone asks! Holy cowlicks!
I think Scotty has big feet, if you know what I mean.

[Turnip Head]

I might even call Sloonei's shift opportunistic, but if he's a bad guy then I will eat my shoe and my foot inside it directly off of my leg.

I wish he were scum, because I'm not sure if I believe you.

Odd way to phrase this Do you know he's not a cop?

What are everyone's thoughts on Scotty?

Scotty's mah boi

[indiglo]

I might even call Sloonei's shift opportunistic, but if he's a bad guy then I will eat my shoe and my foot inside it directly off of my leg.

I wish he were scum, because I'm not sure if I believe you.

Odd way to phrase this Do you know he's not a cop?

What are everyone's thoughts on Scotty?

Scotty's mah boi

No, I just find it highly unlikely and was teasing Prisoner50.

[Quin]

Just becasue she misjudged YOU (which just about everyone did) does not make her bad.

I know that, like I said it's the timing of everything that concerns me. I admit I have a biased point of view on this.

Is bleck ruck yuoor strungest cese-a? Bork Bork Bork!

I don't know. I haven't even read back to see how I got lynched yet.

We spent essentially the whole day phase deciding as a group whether to lynch you or Boomslang. Towards the end, the momentum moved in your direction. I think the case against you was a truly strong one so I can't immediately fault anyone for voting for you. When I look at the tally and try to find opportunists, I think the most likely candidates on your wagon are Elohcin (Serge) and chaindeath. A decent argument could be made against Quin and Dom too.

[Prisoner 509378]

I didn't say "Quin is obviously a bad guy and should be lynched right now", I said "a decent argument can be made". Are you not even willing to grant that?

[Prisoner 509378]

Remaining names who haven't really shown me that beautiful town spark at any point:

Boomslang
Nerolunar
chaindeath
Elohcin
Soneji
Dom

Some of them (or their predecessors) have had fleeting moments of decency, but none of them have jumped out at me and made me feel anything. Even Quin and sig have at least given me that.

I guess I'll rainbow:

Sloonei
S~V~S
indiglo
Turnip Head

Epignosis
Scotty
Black Rock

thellama73
Quin
sig

soneji
Nerolunar

Dom
Elohcin
chaindeath
Boomslang

Even with all of our setbacks, as long as the town core has not been infiltrated then town will win this game. That means we should be getting these people lynched, and while we wait for results critically assessing those we trust to ensure we haven't left a gaping hole in our collective strategy. The yellow names are the wildcards for me. Quin and sig are very easy to suspect for evidence-based reasons, but I don't think either of their post histories looks like a baddie. I've been wrong before, but every time I try to suspect them I find myself unwilling to commit -- it's a square block in a round peg for me. llama hasn't set off any alarms, but his general approach to this game is very easy to play as any alignment and he shouldn't be given a pass just because he's llama.

[Prisoner 509378]

Regarding Quin and sig, I should clarify that I struggle more to find a baddie in Quin than I do in sig. He's (sig) had some awful moments and some solid moments. I still hate the way he handled the ika drama.

[Quin]

I didn't say "Quin is obviously a bad guy and should be lynched right now", I said "a decent argument can be made". Are you not even willing to grant that?

I suppose so. But given the result and previous NKA, an argument could be made for anybody who voted for Turnip. I'll have a good look through that when day begins.

[Epignosis]

Suggestion to the prisoner: Bump llama up to green and Eloh up to yellow.

I get the impression that Eloh is a warm, willing body (aw yeeeeah) who isn't going to be posting cases or blowing minds with revelations. Her vote suggests to me that she's going to follow the crowd and hope for a win. That alone doesn't speak to alignment, but I'm on the side of the fence that says she's aight. I understand if you maintain skepticism, but I'd pull her out of the red.

[Prisoner 509378]

Suggestion to the prisoner: Bump llama up to green and Eloh up to yellow.

I get the impression that Eloh is a warm, willing body (aw yeeeeah) who isn't going to be posting cases or blowing minds with revelations. Her vote suggests to me that she's going to follow the crowd and hope for a win. That alone doesn't speak to alignment, but I'm on the side of the fence that says she's aight. I understand if you maintain skepticism, but I'd pull her out of the red.

At this point it's just process of elimination. When I check names off my list and see who's left, Eloh's right there. If I were to get her out of the dog house, I don't know who would take her place. sig is the easiest name to default to I guess.

I don't fault her for just putting a vote down, there's no way she was able to get caught up with this game thoroughly. My only beef is that when I asked her why she opted for the case against Turnip Head, I didn't really receive much of an answer:

I have voted TH. I think the case on his looks good.

What do you like about the case?

when I say looks good, I mean it makes sense.

[Prisoner 509378]

On the flip side, Dom gave the appearance that he was working out his vote as much as he could before he placed it. I'm not inclined to hand him the key to the city for that though, because if I were a baddie thrust into his position I would certainly try to at least take on the right "form" before tossing my vote onto a mislynch.

So on that front, neither Elohcin nor Dom can win. I don't like the lack of an effort to justify a vote, and I don't like the effort to justify it either. It's a tough scenario.

[Prisoner 509378]

I didn't say "Quin is obviously a bad guy and should be lynched right now", I said "a decent argument can be made". Are you not even willing to grant that?

I suppose so. But given the result and previous NKA, an argument could be made for anybody who voted for Turnip. I'll have a good look through that when day begins.

Scotty and llama hate your guts. How are you going to turn them into believers?

[Scotty]

On the flip side, Dom gave the appearance that he was working out his vote as much as he could before he placed it. I'm not inclined to hand him the key to the city for that though, because if I were a baddie thrust into his position I would certainly try to at least take on the right "form" before tossing my vote onto a mislynch.

So on that front, neither Elohcin nor Dom can win. I don't like the lack of an effort to justify a vote, and I don't like the effort to justify it either. It's a tough scenario.

Und zeen zeere-a's Buumslung, vhu futes und telks meenimelly leeke-a he-a duesn't geefe-a a sheet becoose-a lulz. Bork Bork Bork!

[Prisoner 509378]

Scotty, we're gonna lynch Boomslang. You don't have to convince anyone, it's going to happen. :P

[Quin]

I didn't say "Quin is obviously a bad guy and should be lynched right now", I said "a decent argument can be made". Are you not even willing to grant that?

I suppose so. But given the result and previous NKA, an argument could be made for anybody who voted for Turnip. I'll have a good look through that when day begins.

Scotty and llama hate your guts. How are you going to turn them into believers?

There is no winning with llama. I made a joke out of a dumb question and he's tunneling on that. I could build a time machine, I suppose, but that might take too long. Either way I think he's going to take that to the very end, and I don't see a point in bothering to defend myself against that tactic.

As for Scotty, I just want to let my actions do the talking. Problem is, my actions are probably what's setting him off the most. As you said, the evidence on me looks horrible, but I am most definitely posting as a civ. I think he should consider that as well.

Also, you're forgetting SVS. She's sharpening her knives as we speak.

[Dom]

On the flip side, Dom gave the appearance that he was working out his vote as much as he could before he placed it. I'm not inclined to hand him the key to the city for that though, because if I were a baddie thrust into his position I would certainly try to at least take on the right "form" before tossing my vote onto a mislynch.

So on that front, neither Elohcin nor Dom can win. I don't like the lack of an effort to justify a vote, and I don't like the effort to justify it either. It's a tough scenario.

Questions about this:

#1) I'm not reading 160+ pages of the game to catch up. I'm just not. You wouldn't ever hear from me. Given this, I asked for summaries. I did my best. I listened to your feedback, waited for TH to respond, didn't get one, needed to vote, and did so. What could I have possibly done differently? I don't really understand why you find me suspicious, only that you apparently do. Many people voted TH, and I tried to educate my vote. Why am I criminal for doing so?

#2) Why can't I win?

[Epignosis]

I could build a time machine, I suppose, but that might take too long.

If you built a time machine, would the time it took you build it matter?

[Quin]

I could build a time machine, I suppose, but that might take too long.

If you built a time machine, would the time it took you build it matter?

Now we're asking the real questions.

[Epignosis]

I could build a time machine, I suppose, but that might take too long.

If you built a time machine, would the time it took you build it matter?

Now we're asking the real questions.

And fuck I didn't proofread before I wrote that. Kind sir, when you build your time machine, would you kindly go back right before my post, tap me on my shoulder, and say, "Mister, you forgot to write 'to.'"

Nah, don't worry about it.

SPRING BREAK BITCHRZ

[Scotty]

Scotty, we're gonna lynch Boomslang. You don't have to convince anyone, it's going to happen. :P

O reelly? Becoose-a it's beee 2 streeeght deys ooff Buum beeeng zee oobfeeuoos lynch chueece-a und here-a ve-a ere-a egeeen, in a pretzel mecheene-a. Bork Bork Bork!

[Prisoner 509378]

#1) I'm not reading 160+ pages of the game to catch up. I'm just not. You wouldn't ever hear from me. Given this, I asked for summaries. I did my best. I listened to your feedback, waited for TH to respond, didn't get one, needed to vote, and did so. What could I have possibly done differently? I don't really understand why you find me suspicious, only that you apparently do. Many people voted TH, and I tried to educate my vote. Why am I criminal for doing so?

You're not criminal for doing so. I also never asked you to read the whole thread; I even said that would be a waste of time. I'm saying that your effort to educate yourself doesn't make you look better. Your predecessor did close to nothing and you're left as a suspect in his place. It's a raw deal, but what can ya do.

#2) Why can't I win?

Because Eloh handled her TH vote quite differently to you and I suspect her too. I'm granting the inconsistency on my part -- you're both suspicious to me regardless of what you've done because of the people you filled in for.

[Prisoner 509378]

Scotty, we're gonna lynch Boomslang. You don't have to convince anyone, it's going to happen. :P

O reelly? Becoose-a it's beee 2 streeeght deys ooff Buum beeeng zee oobfeeuoos lynch chueece-a und here-a ve-a ere-a egeeen, in a pretzel mecheene-a. Bork Bork Bork!

If you keep faking this curse we might replace Boomslang with you.

[indiglo]

Remaining names who haven't really shown me that beautiful town spark at any point:

Boomslang
Nerolunar
chaindeath
Elohcin
Soneji
Dom

Some of them (or their predecessors) have had fleeting moments of decency, but none of them have jumped out at me and made me feel anything. Even Quin and sig have at least given me that.

I guess I'll rainbow:

Sloonei
S~V~S
indiglo
Turnip Head

Epignosis
Scotty
Black Rock

thellama73
Quin
sig

soneji
Nerolunar

Dom
Elohcin
chaindeath
Boomslang

Even with all of our setbacks, as long as the town core has not been infiltrated then town will win this game. That means we should be getting these people lynched, and while we wait for results critically assessing those we trust to ensure we haven't left a gaping hole in our collective strategy. The yellow names are the wildcards for me. Quin and sig are very easy to suspect for evidence-based reasons, but I don't think either of their post histories looks like a baddie. I've been wrong before, but every time I try to suspect them I find myself unwilling to commit -- it's a square block in a round peg for me. llama hasn't set off any alarms, but his general approach to this game is very easy to play as any alignment and he shouldn't be given a pass just because he's llama.

Thanks for the pep talk, P50. I guess right now the wind has kind of been taken out of my sails for the moment. And I'm feeling lost & disoriented, and more than a little frustrated at the low participation from apparent townies (which I understand because I more than get that RL trumps mafia, but I'm still allowed to be frustrated by it).

I'm going to try to not think about the game for just a little while longer (clearly not working, because HEEEEEEEERRRREEE'SSSSS INDI! /Jack Nicholson) and then try to come back with a fresher mind and renewed, positive spirit. The pep talk helped. And I know I'll recharge the batteries and be back all chipper and witty and clever. But your even keeled, factual pep talk was really, really helpful to me, and I appreciate it.

Also, note to Dons and Hitman - Boomslang. Boomslang. Boomslang.


Linki w/Swedish Chef - Pretzel Machine... I like soft pretzels. I was just sitting here quietly reading, and then said out loud "pretzel machine" and started laughing. Dex said "I take it that's the punchline?"

Ugh, more linki~ let me post!!!

[Prisoner 509378]

Which low-content participants are apparent townies, indiglo?

[Prisoner 509378]

it's a square block in a round peg

I just realized I said this and punched myself in the face.

[Scotty]

Scotty, we're gonna lynch Boomslang. You don't have to convince anyone, it's going to happen. :P

O reelly? Becoose-a it's beee 2 streeeght deys ooff Buum beeeng zee oobfeeuoos lynch chueece-a und here-a ve-a ere-a egeeen, in a pretzel mecheene-a. Bork Bork Bork!

If you keep faking this curse we might replace Boomslang with you.

Bork Bork Bork!

[Epignosis]

it's a square block in a round peg

I just realized I said this and punched myself in the face.

You're afraid to talk about holes. We get it.

[Scotty]

I could build a time machine, I suppose, but that might take too long.

If you built a time machine, would the time it took you build it matter?

Now we're asking the real questions.

And fuck I didn't proofread before I wrote that. Kind sir, when you build your time machine, would you kindly go back right before my post, tap me on my shoulder, and say, "Mister, you forgot to write 'to.'"

Nah, don't worry about it.

SPRING BREAK BITCHRZ

I fuoond yoo, Ipeegnusis! Bork Bork Bork!

[Dom]

#1) I'm not reading 160+ pages of the game to catch up. I'm just not. You wouldn't ever hear from me. Given this, I asked for summaries. I did my best. I listened to your feedback, waited for TH to respond, didn't get one, needed to vote, and did so. What could I have possibly done differently? I don't really understand why you find me suspicious, only that you apparently do. Many people voted TH, and I tried to educate my vote. Why am I criminal for doing so?

You're not criminal for doing so. I also never asked you to read the whole thread; I even said that would be a waste of time. I'm saying that your effort to educate yourself doesn't make you look better. Your predecessor did close to nothing and you're left as a suspect in his place. It's a raw deal, but what can ya do.

#2) Why can't I win?

Because Eloh handled her TH vote quite differently to you and I suspect her too. I'm granting the inconsistency on my part -- you're both suspicious to me regardless of what you've done because of the people you filled in for.

I think I misunderstood what you meant by "win" I thought you meant the game. You meant figuratively.

I just don't understand why my actions make me more suspicious.

[Sloonei]

I don't think we should be content to assume that Turnip Head was not lynched for the obvious reason. There could be a number of possible explanations for yesterday's lack of results.

[sig]

What would happen if there was a tie?

[Sloonei]

One of the tied players would be lynched.