[END] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

[S~V~S]

With one bad team, if Epi was bad, he would not spend the whole game being suspicious of the guy who gets mislynched all the time. No way would he do that, IMO. Becasue it would make him look so bad when sig was inevitably lynched. Epi is not someone who goes for the low hanging fruit, as someone said earlier.

Iam in a parkinglot lol, GET ALIFE SVS

[Nerolunar]

My vote on Chaindeath is going nowhere, so Im changing it. I think Domcongoose looks worse than Scotty tbh, so Im voting for him.

Dom

[S~V~S]

My short bad list, Scotty Soneji Turnip Head.

Although with TH not wanting to lynch Epi OR Scotty,not as sure about that as when he disappeared.

Linki, or Nerolunar lol

[S~V~S]

Please trustmeguys.

Now I gotta get out of this parkinglot. Bye. Good luck

[Sloonei]

My short bad list, Scotty Soneji Turnip Head.

Although with TH not wanting to lynch Epi OR Scotty,not as sure about that as when he disappeared.

Linki, or Nerolunar lol

Explain Turnip Head when you get a minute please.

[Sloonei]

I might be willing to vote for Scotty. I've never been so colossally wrong about a game before, so it would make sense for him to be bad.

[Prisoner 509378]

My vote on Chaindeath is going nowhere, so Im changing it. I think Domcongoose looks worse than Scotty tbh, so Im voting for him.

Dom

What don't you like about Domcongoose?

[Prisoner 509378]

Oh hell, the deadline is in less than two hours. I hadn't realized it due to recent time zone changes.

Crunch time.

[Prisoner 509378]

Oh hell, the deadline is in less than two three hours. I hadn't realized it due to recent time zone changes.

Crunch time.

[Sloonei]

Scotty. It feels right. My two strongest town reads think he's bad, plus whatever the prisoner counts as. Still here to help figure things out and listen on other cases, but my gut is pointing me to Scotty at this very moment.

[Prisoner 509378]

I've been acting under the assumption that the loan sharks are gone, since we haven't heard about them from the hosts lately. With that in mind, I pray for no shenanigans. May the cursed shenanigans never descend upon this peaceful land.

[Prisoner 509378]

I really hope it's the right course, because if Scotty is bad then it opens up so many avenues for investigation. His interactions are meaningful and many.

[Sloonei]

I've been acting under the assumption that the loan sharks are gone, since we haven't heard about them from the hosts lately. With that in mind, I pray for no shenanigans. May the cursed shenanigans never descend upon this peaceful land.

I have gut feeling that the loan sharks are not the only sources vote shenanigans in the game, so I'm still in favor of being cautious with our votes.

[Prisoner 509378]

Turning on the tunnel vision and returning to my Day 5 analyses of Fuzz interactions.

Checking Scotty's interactions with Fuzz:

Spoiler: show

Yo Fuzz. On your last point there:
I just totally missed you. I read and reread everyone in the post history and tried to do it on my phone between scenes backstage while doing my show. Sorry!

Also, as a more or less serious note, my very first online Mafia game someone suggested we lynch you day 1, and I helped accomplish that. Didn't work out too well. Maybe it's an unconscious thing that I missed you?

The latter sentence here confuses me. If you specifically remember that Fuzz mislynch in your first online Mafia game, then wouldn't that make you more conscious of Fuzz afterword and not less?

Anyway, that exchange is all Scotty said about Fuzz prior to his lynch, and Scotty had a decent number of posts. His reaction to the mafia flip:

Spoiler: show

I don't know what just happened, but I like it.

Goes to show we should always lynch Fuzz day 1 in every game.

Good job team!

Ehh. Almost forcibly jubilant. I'm not great at reading into that type of thing, but this post doesn't do wonders for me.

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Scotty's a viable team mate of Fuzz. They didn't really interact much at all except in that goofy exchange above. I could see that as being the result of unconscious avoidance, something Fuzz took note of and tried to amend -- but it comes out awkwardly.

Viable team mate. I'm glad I felt that way back then, because I sure as hell didn't remember.

[Prisoner 509378]

There's the chaindeath vote! Everyone wave, quick you might miss him!

[Prisoner 509378]

I have 700 posts and I had zero before Day 5. I apologize for that.

[Quin]

I'm not asking anyone to turn on S~V~S, and I'm definitely not going to condone her lynch on Day 9. That'd be worse than foolhardy. But circumstance demands thorough reassessment of everyone. We'd all be remiss to ignore possibilities that genuinely warrant consideration.

I've had all these thoughts as well and agree with you for bringing them up. But even with that, my conclusion on the matter is what I stated above. I think SVS is town. I am interested in hearing about Scotty largely because I trust SVS, and to a lesser extent also trust Quin.

I knew you'd come around eventually.

[Turnip Head]

Well I hope you guys are right about Scotty. .. Ive been wrong about most things so far so maybe I'm wrong about him too, but I think he's town.

Voted for Dom.

[Prisoner 509378]

What inspires the Dom vote, Turnip?

[Scotty]

Good game cops. I never stood a chance without time. I'm very disappointed the community has swollen so much in my direction in the matter of 24 hours for doing nothing different but believing SVS' "gut" which, when we lose and I get lynched, will hopefully make her feel TERRIBLE if she is indeed civ.

Please trustmeguys.

Now I gotta get out of this parkinglot. Bye. Good luck

The only way I can feel better about this game is if you are a cop. Otherwise I have been incredibly annoyed all game and this would be just a fitting way to end.

[Scotty]

I haven't read the last few pages, but I see there is still an hour to save me.

Please don't vote me. I have no BTSC and feel very cornered. How the fuck do I respond to SVS' "he's bad because this is like his baddie game"? Someone give me a Better alt. Because there's 4 other cops out there. Soneji? Epi is still a option!

[Prisoner 509378]

Good game cops. I never stood a chance without time. I'm very disappointed the community has swollen so much in my direction in the matter of 24 hours for doing nothing different but believing SVS' "gut" which, when we lose and I get lynched, will hopefully make her feel TERRIBLE if she is indeed civ.

Please trustmeguys.

Now I gotta get out of this parkinglot. Bye. Good luck

The only way I can feel better about this game is if you are a cop. Otherwise I have been incredibly annoyed all game and this would be just a fitting way to end.

S~V~S's gut isn't the only thing that has gone against you.

[Sloonei]

Good game cops. I never stood a chance without time. I'm very disappointed the community has swollen so much in my direction in the matter of 24 hours for doing nothing different but believing SVS' "gut" which, when we lose and I get lynched, will hopefully make her feel TERRIBLE if she is indeed civ.

Please trustmeguys.

Now I gotta get out of this parkinglot. Bye. Good luck

The only way I can feel better about this game is if you are a cop. Otherwise I have been incredibly annoyed all game and this would be just a fitting way to end.

My vote is not final. You have time to convince me that Dom or Epi is a better choice. Which do you prefer?

[Scotty]

Fuck I have to be back in rehearsal and will not be available until a few hours from now. Please make the right decision.

Linki: ok well that's why I said GIVE ME UNTIL NIGHT PHASE TO ANSSER. I don't have time right now. Lynch me tomorrow if dissatisfied I guess

[Scotty]

Good game cops. I never stood a chance without time. I'm very disappointed the community has swollen so much in my direction in the matter of 24 hours for doing nothing different but believing SVS' "gut" which, when we lose and I get lynched, will hopefully make her feel TERRIBLE if she is indeed civ.

Please trustmeguys.

Now I gotta get out of this parkinglot. Bye. Good luck

The only way I can feel better about this game is if you are a cop. Otherwise I have been incredibly annoyed all game and this would be just a fitting way to end.

My vote is not final. You have time to convince me that Dom or Epi is a better choice. Which do you prefer?

I think Epi.

[Sloonei]

Good game cops. I never stood a chance without time. I'm very disappointed the community has swollen so much in my direction in the matter of 24 hours for doing nothing different but believing SVS' "gut" which, when we lose and I get lynched, will hopefully make her feel TERRIBLE if she is indeed civ.

Please trustmeguys.

Now I gotta get out of this parkinglot. Bye. Good luck

The only way I can feel better about this game is if you are a cop. Otherwise I have been incredibly annoyed all game and this would be just a fitting way to end.

My vote is not final. You have time to convince me that Dom or Epi is a better choice. Which do you prefer?

I think Epi.

Why?

[Prisoner 509378]

Fuck I have to be back in rehearsal and will not be available until a few hours from now. Please make the right decision.

Linki: ok well that's why I said GIVE ME UNTIL NIGHT PHASE TO ANSSER. I don't have time right now. Lynch me tomorrow if dissatisfied I guess

There might not be a tomorrow.

[Prisoner 509378]

Let's be frank, Scotty. What I asked for from you does not require you to spend a ton of time or effort. You know your own posts and your own votes better than anyone else.

So when you continually say things that promote you surviving one phase longer instead of promoting you being town, it only gets worse.

[S~V~S]

If I am wrong Scotty, I am so sorry. But this is exactly how you felt to me when you were bad in Lost Again. Exactly.

[Scotty]

If I am wrong Scotty, I am so sorry. But this is exactly how you felt to me when you were bad in Lost Again. Exactly.

And again I say, I do not have a baddie game. Your suspicion is based on interaction and not my actions. I guessing I get lynched you will see that how I act is not an exclusively notable way to judge my alignment.

Let's be frank, Scotty. What I asked for from you does not require you to spend a ton of time or effort. You know your own posts and your own votes better than anyone else.

So when you continually say things that promote you surviving one phase longer instead of promoting you being town, it only gets worse.

Let's be frank, Prisoner. You asked me this last night if I recall and I asked for time. And I know you don't seem to care about that or have any patience to give me that, so what the fuck does it matter.

Maybe I've got a lot going on, and have a jumbled mind like jigsaw puzzle and don't remember what I did yesterday let alone what I did in one of my 4 Mafia games being played at the same time.

[S~V~S]

And I think I read you pretty well, you just felt "faux"to me.

Linki, and I say you DO have a baddie game

[Prisoner 509378]

Let's be frank, Prisoner. You asked me this last night if I recall and I asked for time. And I know you don't seem to care about that or have any patience to give me that, so what the fuck does it matter.

You don't seem to care about the crucial reason why I am impatient. The one on which the entire game might hinge. That's the entire problem. How can you expect patience right now?

[Sloonei]

Everyone has a baddie game, Scotty. The only way not to is to literally never draw a baddie role card. If you've played as scum once (which you have) you've got a baddie game. Telling us that you don't have one is not a strong defense.

[Prisoner 509378]

Scotty, I'm not asking you to write a dissertation. Just give me the goods. What about your play in this Mafia game is most indicative of your town alignment?

[Prisoner 509378]

Scotty's ISO in Lost Again - for those looking for parallels

[Scotty]

Aight. McCarthy has risen again. Look at my voting lines. I have been pretty in tune with Sloonei. I trust Turnip at this point. I wasn't involved with the Fuzz vote because I wasn't around. That seems to be a thing of contention. I think chaindeath and Quin are bad. They continue to live and not prove me wrong. Most of my reads have been based on other people that continue to live. If I look bad in voting, so does Sloonei. But I confident Sloonei is good.

[Sloonei]

Aight. McCarthy has risen again. Look at my voting lines. I have been pretty in tune with Sloonei. I trust Turnip at this point. I wasn't involved with the Fuzz vote because I wasn't around. That seems to be a thing of contention. I think chaindeath and Quin are bad. They continue to live and not prove me wrong. Most of my reads have been based on other people that continue to live. If I look bad in voting, so does Sloonei. But I confident Sloonei is good.

so you're good because you've helped us lynch a bunch of townies? i'm not a good person to hide behind in this game. i've been wrong about everything.

[Quin]

You think chaindeath and I are bad, but you're voting Epignosis.

[Sloonei]

yeah i really don't like that defense from scotty. rather than take responsibility or give an explanation for anything he's done, he just pointed at me and shrugged.

[Scotty]

yeah i really don't like that defense from scotty. rather than take responsibility or give an explanation for anything he's done, he just pointed at me and shrugged.

Why Are you good, Sloonei?

[Prisoner 509378]

Aight. McCarthy has risen again. Look at my voting lines. I have been pretty in tune with Sloonei. I trust Turnip at this point. I wasn't involved with the Fuzz vote because I wasn't around. That seems to be a thing of contention. I think chaindeath and Quin are bad. They continue to live and not prove me wrong. Most of my reads have been based on other people that continue to live. If I look bad in voting, so does Sloonei. But I confident Sloonei is good.

Has your read on Quin ever developed in this game since you started to move against him? Have you expressed doubts about your read?

[Sloonei]

yeah i really don't like that defense from scotty. rather than take responsibility or give an explanation for anything he's done, he just pointed at me and shrugged.

Why Are you good, Sloonei?

my role card says so.

[Dom]

Anyone want to join me in voting for Don/Draconus/Mongoose? Collectively they've provided almost no content. Dom hasn't been inactive since he showed up, but his posts do not represent anything that would be diffocult for a scum player to fake. I think we've definitely tot lurker scums on our hands in this game and he fits the bill better than anyone else.

....so...why am I bad?

wtf, RIP sig

Sorry that I haven't had time for this. Where should I vote? As of right now I don't want to vote for Epignosis or Scotty but I also haven't read the cases on them. I feel good about both of them from what I've read. chaindeath, Domconus and Soneji are all options for me.

Why?

My vote on Chaindeath is going nowhere, so Im changing it. I think Domcongoose looks worse than Scotty tbh, so Im voting for him.

Dom

WHY?!

Well I hope you guys are right about Scotty. .. Ive been wrong about most things so far so maybe I'm wrong about him too, but I think he's town.

Voted for Dom.

W H Y?

[Sloonei]

Anyone want to join me in voting for Don/Draconus/Mongoose? Collectively they've provided almost no content. Dom hasn't been inactive since he showed up, but his posts do not represent anything that would be diffocult for a scum player to fake. I think we've definitely tot lurker scums on our hands in this game and he fits the bill better than anyone else.

....so...why am I bad?

wtf, RIP sig

Sorry that I haven't had time for this. Where should I vote? As of right now I don't want to vote for Epignosis or Scotty but I also haven't read the cases on them. I feel good about both of them from what I've read. chaindeath, Domconus and Soneji are all options for me.

Why?

My vote on Chaindeath is going nowhere, so Im changing it. I think Domcongoose looks worse than Scotty tbh, so Im voting for him.

Dom

WHY?!

Well I hope you guys are right about Scotty. .. Ive been wrong about most things so far so maybe I'm wrong about him too, but I think he's town.

Voted for Dom.

W H Y?

Process of elimination. The spot you occupy in this game has been absent all game long, and we've almost certainly had at least one lurking, inactive scum player. Surely you can understand this.

[Scotty]

If I am lynched and show up good for your doubters (and chaindeath) who have latched onto me for a vote, can town still win? Mathematically?

I have a shitty defense right. Now sure, because it's a rushed shitty defense because of time constraints. I've had shitty votes and have had no luck with my reads in DDL or Boom

[Prisoner 509378]

Hey Dom, gun to head read on Scotty GO

[Prisoner 509378]

If I am lynched and show up good for your doubters (and chaindeath) who have latched onto me for a vote, can town still win? Mathematically?

Possibly, depending upon night kill(s), my vote, and any potential prison break. It's also possible that town would lose.

[Sloonei]

I had a quick look at Scotty's votes in the polls. He's right that he's voted for a lot of the same people as me (an interesting thing for him to be conscious of, by the way). But a lot of those were days where we all coordinated our votes onto single targets, so he had no real choice but to follow along. And as a scum he would have no reason not to want to, since we've been lynching townies left and right. Earlier in the game he was a latecomer on a few bandwagons, a point which I raised against him a long time ago but then dropped because I started reading him as town. Now I've come back to it and I still think it looks bad.
I also apologize if this case is wrong, Scotty.

[Sloonei]

I am sensing real desperation in Scotty's posts though, and it's making me reconsider. Dom or Epi would be my next choice.

[Prisoner 509378]

I don't hold bad votes against you Scotty. Pretty much everyone alive in this game has made bad votes. Focus on your actual post content. Focus on your pursuit of Quin. If you can show me that it developed in an organic way, that would be meaningful.