[END] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

[Quokka]

You seem to have just accepted the assumption people are making that you're a don when there's a lack of significant evidence to suggest that it's true.

You don't think the agleaminranks votes of Day 1 are sufficient evidence in Sloonei's favor?

I hadn't read that post, but now looking at the polls, I don't understand what SVS and DDL voting gleam have to do with Sloonei?

The traitor role is triggered by ANY votes, not just final votes. On Day 1, five players voted for agleaminranks. On Night 1, agleam switched sides. This means that agleam's original don must have voted for him on Day 1. The following players all voted for agleam at one point or another on Day 1 (some of them eventually moved their votes elsewhere):

Golden - can't be don, was arrested
S~V~S - can't be don, was arrested
DDL - can't be don, was lynched and flipped as Sockface
Epignosis - can't be don, was lynched and flipped as Warden
Sloonei - the only remaining candidate

You're right, that looks good for him. However, you aren't considering that small possibility of people not expressing their vote in the thread. I realise it's almost impossible to track down such people, so it's probably not worth pursuing.

So my gist of the thread so far is that the dons are Turnip and Sloonei and it is currently being debated whether Soneji is a Stool Pigeon?

[Marge Simpson]

:o

Do we still get to stay out?

[Tangrowth]

:o

Do we still get to stay out?

Yes.

[Tangrowth]

DAY 12: ENDED EARLY

Who is a policeman?

Poll runs till Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:38:01 pm
You may select 1 option


chaindeath
2
Sloonei (9), Prisoner 958153 (12) 17%

Elohcin
7
Prisoner 419713 (2), Prisoner 607001 (4), Prisoner 126993 (5), Prisoner 606386 (6), Prisoner 483934 (7), Prisoner 277058 (8), Prisoner 850132 (11) 58%

Prisoner 509378
0
No votes

Sloonei
0
No votes

Soneji
0
No votes

Turnip Head
0
No votes

Joe Friday (hosts, non-players)
3
MovingPictures07 (1), Ricochet (3), Dom (10) 25%
Total votes : 12

[Marge Simpson]

I don't like jail

[Prisoner 509378]

Upon further discussion with Daisy, we've decided to end Day 12 and modkill/lynch Elohcin for inactivity. It will then be Night 12 for 24 hours, and there will be a new parole poll.

I'll elaborate further upon this decision in the postgame discussion, whenever it happens.

Do what you feel is best for the game, hosts. We're with you all the way. It's been a ton of fun.

[Tangrowth]

Day 12

Elohcin has been arrested. She was the Beat Cop, a member of The Police.

It is now Night 12.

You have 24 hours to send in your night actions and parole a prisoner!

[Quokka]

My opinion is thus, though it may yet change depending on how eloh flips:

If you're considering the possibility of Soneji being a townie, yet you're not doing the same thing for chaindeath - you should lynch chaindeath.

[Marge Simpson]

Subbing in for a baddie is hard, Thanks for trying Eloh! You too Dom!

And Burn in hell you dirty coppers!!!

Linki, do you never get linki?

[Prisoner 509378]

You're right, that looks good for him. However, you aren't considering that small possibility of people not expressing their vote in the thread. I realise it's almost impossible to track down such people, so it's probably not worth pursuing.

So my gist of the thread so far is that the dons are Turnip and Sloonei and it is currently being debated whether Soneji is a Stool Pigeon?

Yeah, that is the bugaboo. It makes Sloonei 99% to me instead of 100%. I also just think he's been blindingly town all game long though and trusting him over the last few phases has really paid dividends. I'm not worried about the Sloonster.

Regarding Soneji, yes that has been a continuing topic of discussion. First, you should decide whether you think Soneji meant to give us the impression that he is the stool pigeon, and then you must decide whether he actually is or not. If it's not clear, ika was lynched on Day 6 and flipped as the stool pigeon, but many players have theorized that he was the undercover cop. If Soneji is the stool pigeon, then that would confirm ika was a cop and look good on Soneji's resume. However, there's an argument to be made that Silverwolf was actually the stool pigeon, which would suggest Soneji is lying now to try to escape the noose. You should have a look and share your thoughts when you have an opportunity.

linki -- hmmm, Elohcin wasn't the chief...

[Prisoner 509378]

Thanks for the help you were able to lend today, prisoners. A bunch of fresh eyes is always a valuable resource, and we'll definitely take your input into consideration moving forward.

I think 920077 deserves a parole. A lot of prisoners do and I wish I could pick more than one, but there's my vote.

[chaindeath]

Then Soneji has to be the chief.

[Prisoner 509378]

Just know though, prisoners: whoever we parole, we could really use your help moving forward. I hope you can maintain a presence and lend us your vote. We're almost finished burying the warden and his cronies.

[Quokka]

Subbing in for a baddie is hard, Thanks for trying Eloh! You too Dom!

And Burn in hell you dirty coppers!!!

Linki, do you never get linki?

Nope. I'm not sure what's going on.

[Quokka]

You're right, that looks good for him. However, you aren't considering that small possibility of people not expressing their vote in the thread. I realise it's almost impossible to track down such people, so it's probably not worth pursuing.

So my gist of the thread so far is that the dons are Turnip and Sloonei and it is currently being debated whether Soneji is a Stool Pigeon?

Yeah, that is the bugaboo. It makes Sloonei 99% to me instead of 100%. I also just think he's been blindingly town all game long though and trusting him over the last few phases has really paid dividends. I'm not worried about the Sloonster.

Regarding Soneji, yes that has been a continuing topic of discussion. First, you should decide whether you think Soneji meant to give us the impression that he is the stool pigeon, and then you must decide whether he actually is or not. If it's not clear, ika was lynched on Day 6 and flipped as the stool pigeon, but many players have theorized that he was the undercover cop. If Soneji is the stool pigeon, then that would confirm ika was a cop and look good on Soneji's resume. However, there's an argument to be made that Silverwolf was actually the stool pigeon, which would suggest Soneji is lying now to try to escape the noose. You should have a look and share your thoughts when you have an opportunity.

linki -- hmmm, Elohcin wasn't the chief...

I'll do that fo' sho'.

[Perd Hapley]

All right, how's everybody doing? I'm here now, so you can all relax.

[Prisoner 509378]

Then Soneji has to be the chief.

He will likely say the same about you, chaindeath. You and Soneji are now in a battle royale, and the victor may decide the whole game! If there's a town spirit within you, and you want to get out of this mess alive and free -- then show us what you're made of. Give us your very best effort right here and now. We won't make a collective decision without really thinking it through, you have a great chance to influence what happens here.

If you're a cop though, then you might as well just raise the white flag because you're doomed.

[Quokka]

I'm voting for P813. He deserves it.

[Grand Scheme]

We lynch sonji after this.

[Prisoner 509378]

I'm voting for P813. He deserves it.

Dr. Evil is definitely also a good choice.

[Perd Hapley]

There's no way chaindeath is a cop. Parole me, Chaindeath, and I will help you n your struggle!

[Perd Hapley]

Hosts: May we vote to parole ourselves?

[Prisoner 509378]

HOSTS:

Elohcin was modkilled, does that mean she is removed from the game (as in actually dead), or is she actually arrested?

[Tangrowth]

Hosts: May we vote to parole ourselves?

No. Self-voting is not permitted in this poll.

You may campaign for your own parole via thread content all you want though.

[Tangrowth]

HOSTS:

Elohcin was modkilled, does that mean she is removed from the game (as in actually dead), or is she actually arrested?

Dead. Just realized I updated her in the wrong section. Fixing now.

[Prisoner 509378]

Thanks!

[Perd Hapley]

You may campaign for your own parole via thread content all you want though.

Oh believe me, I'm on it.

[Marge Simpson]

Then Soneji has to be the chief.

Chaindeath, can you explain what you meant before?

This post;did you miss it?:

Thanks Host!

So chaindeath, can you be clearer with what you meant up there ^^ without getting in trouble?

Chaindeath, explain this like I am stupid. What does this mean?

If the cops were going to arrest Nero that night instead of S~V~S chaindeath is pretty sure they would have gotten the arrest without the kill going off.

I thought the host said that night powers go through if the person using them dies. So I am unsure how who was arrested would have had an effect on this. Dom was killed by the civvies according to this post.

MP, since you are here, night powers & kills & such still go through if the person who had the power dies that night, right? Or did I imagine you said that?

That was said in Spirited Away mafia, you confused geezer, you. Although, I guess it's likely to be the same.

What say you MP; do dead players night actions carry through?

No it was said here, he just confirmed it:

MP, since you are here, night powers & kills & such still go through if the person who had the power dies that night, right? Or did I imagine you said that?

That is correct.

Please let us know if we've missed any other questions; it's been a hectic day. Apologies for the delay. Thanks!

[Marge Simpson]

I'm voting for P813. He deserves it.

Dr. Evil is definitely also a good choice.

I think that is who I will vote for, but I want to read some more.

[Perd Hapley]

You guys, I legitimately think I am the best choice to be paroled. You should seriously vote for me. You won't regret it, trust me.

[Gunther]

What a bizarre end to a wild day. It seems our time with you will be even shorter than last time. While I would very much appreciate your vote in the parole poll, I also feel that I must vouch for a handful of my peers. I will provide you with summaries of the best choices for parole in short order based upon my notes. Some prisoners are not to be trusted. Be very careful with your vote.

[Perd Hapley]

Also, am I the only one amused that it says "patsy" under a photo of George Bluth?

[Perd Hapley]

What a bizarre end to a wild day. It seems our time with you will be even shorter than last time. While I would very much appreciate your vote in the parole poll, I also feel that I must vouch for a handful of my peers. I will provide you with summaries of the best choices for parole in short order based upon my notes. Some prisoners are not to be trusted. Be very careful with your vote.

Thank you for your forthcoming vote of confidence.

[Prisoner 509378]

You guys, I legitimately think I am the best choice to be paroled. You should seriously vote for me. You won't regret it, trust me.

The entire game is on the line. It's over a month in the making. This is not a decision that anyone is going to take lightly. If you have something to offer, you're going to need to show it in your posts during this night phase. I don't mean self-promotion, I mean production.

[chaindeath]

Welp. Anyway. We're in the heated final days of a heck of a game, so let's finish strong y'all. Moving foward.

Hey chaindeath, it's clear that you've been trying to keep track of peoples' roles. That can be a productive exercise, and I admit that it's not my strong suit personally. Would you be able to tell me what kinds of methods you're using to determine what roles certain people might have, and how long you've been working on that?

This is something that chaindeath started on day 10 because the pool was small enough that it allowed some small amount of certainty. His starting point was himself, 1 townie. Then The two dons since they haven't been lynched yet and TH has been confirmed. Sloonei has been active all game and chaindeath is willing to bet that the police tried to lynch him multiple times without success, the first time thinking maybe he was a stool pigeon then trying again to confirm his real role. As a prisoner you seem to be on the side of the town. Epi made chaindeath waffle between for the whole time up until his death. With Epi's flip it drew chaindeath's eye to the similarity to Epi's efforts to kill both Nero and chaindeath. This made Nero slide into town. Given the large number of unknown roles left chaindeath did some hoping that one of the people we arrested was the seemer which left three cop roles open to be filled. Once Nero got arrested it really narrowed down the possibilities for who the cops were, since chaindeath isn't one it left only soneji and Elo. Elo has flipped as a cop, so only Soneji is left to do horrible cop things as the chief.

TL:DR - Chaindeath logic-ed his way through the past couple of days for the most part.

That should be all of chaindeath's thoughts on how he came to thinking what he thought. In the middle of Day 10 one could add about two hours of despair over who was the one to lynch and about a half hour of OMG the website is down and people are going to kill him because he wasn't able to cast his vote.

[Perd Hapley]

You guys, I legitimately think I am the best choice to be paroled. You should seriously vote for me. You won't regret it, trust me.

The entire game is on the line. It's over a month in the making. This is not a decision that anyone is going to take lightly. If you have something to offer, you're going to need to show it in your posts during this night phase. I don't mean self-promotion, I mean production.

That's all good and well, but I am still the best choice. Vote for me, please.

[Prisoner 509378]

Alright chaindeath, thanks for the answer. You're going to want to answer Prisoner 607001's questions too.

[Prisoner 509378]

Keep in mind living non-prisoner players: your parole choice is likely to serve as my replacement from Day 13 onward.

[Tangrowth]

Also, am I the only one amused that it says "patsy" under a photo of George Bluth?

[chaindeath]

Then Soneji has to be the chief.

Chaindeath, can you explain what you meant before?

This post;did you miss it?:

Thanks Host!

So chaindeath, can you be clearer with what you meant up there ^^ without getting in trouble?

Chaindeath, explain this like I am stupid. What does this mean?

If the cops were going to arrest Nero that night instead of S~V~S chaindeath is pretty sure they would have gotten the arrest without the kill going off.

I thought the host said that night powers go through if the person using them dies. So I am unsure how who was arrested would have had an effect on this. Dom was killed by the civvies according to this post.

MP, since you are here, night powers & kills & such still go through if the person who had the power dies that night, right? Or did I imagine you said that?

That was said in Spirited Away mafia, you confused geezer, you. Although, I guess it's likely to be the same.

What say you MP; do dead players night actions carry through?

No it was said here, he just confirmed it:

MP, since you are here, night powers & kills & such still go through if the person who had the power dies that night, right? Or did I imagine you said that?

That is correct.

Please let us know if we've missed any other questions; it's been a hectic day. Apologies for the delay. Thanks!

[/spoiler]

It was process of elimination. Chaindeath's previous post explains how how he got to this point. Hope this clears it up P607.

Town
Don - Sock (Sloonei or TH)
Don - Daisy (Sloonei or TH)
chaindeath

Neutral (?)
Prisoner 509
(Soon to be paroled prisoner)

Cops
Soneji
Elo (Dead. Like so dead.)

[Prisoner 509378]

chaindeath blew up the page!

[chaindeath]

Chaindeath is sorry

[Quokka]

NO CHAINDEATH NO

[Tangrowth]

Fixed.

Well, sort of.

[Marge Simpson]

Chaindeath, I meant this specifically:

If the cops were going to arrest Nero that night instead of S~V~S chaindeath is pretty sure they would have gotten the arrest without the kill going off.

What are you trying to say? I understood the rest of what you said, but this perplexed me. I am not sure what this has to do with the rest of what you said.

[Richard Nixon's Head]

I consider myself a learned fellow. I have no understanding of what is occurring.

[Soneji]

Prisoners, if you wish to have my vote you will have to entertain me. Get to it, for the night is dark and full of terrors

[chaindeath]

Chaindeath, I meant this specifically:

If the cops were going to arrest Nero that night instead of S~V~S chaindeath is pretty sure they would have gotten the arrest without the kill going off.

What are you trying to say? I understood the rest of what you said, but this perplexed me. I am not sure what this has to do with the rest of what you said.

Ah, sorry. Chaindeath mistook the events of an earlier lynch to mean that there was a sort of turn order in place, since there was a hit pulled off then the cops got there to find the person dead. In Magic order of events matters quite a lot and it effects the way he plays his other games.

[chaindeath]

Prisoners, if you wish to have my vote you will have to entertain me. Get to it, for the night is dark and full of terrors

Yes, terrors like you arresting people as the police chief.

[Marge Simpson]

Chaindeath, I meant this specifically:

If the cops were going to arrest Nero that night instead of S~V~S chaindeath is pretty sure they would have gotten the arrest without the kill going off.

What are you trying to say? I understood the rest of what you said, but this perplexed me. I am not sure what this has to do with the rest of what you said.

Ah, sorry. Chaindeath mistook the events of an earlier lynch to mean that there was a sort of turn order in place, since there was a hit pulled off then the cops got there to find the person dead. In Magic order of events matters quite a lot and it effects the way he plays his other games.

OK, thanks. I thought I was missing some important point (which would not be a surprising turn of events, lol).