Downton Abbey Mafia (ENDGAME)

#151

Spacedaisy wrote:My only comments at this point is that Epi's refusal to make a lie detector statement says nothing to me about his alignment. I would have had the same response because I know on this site it is common to not allow straight up forced LD statements to be used. And honestly I would have had the same reaction as he did.

I have nothing else that jumps out at me yet, kind of early for me really.

Epi dos that in every game with an LD so I agree with you.

#152

I'm looking forward to "not playing proper" by Ika's completely arbitrary standard.

#153

thellama73 wrote:
Yeah, I'm cool with lynching Ika after that.

Because?

#154

ika wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Yeah, I'm cool with lynching Ika after that.
Because?

Because you're a) trying way too hard
b) being bossy and telling people what to do. I don't like that. Libertarian.
c) using words that are not words.

#155

thellama73 wrote:
ika wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Yeah, I'm cool with lynching Ika after that.
Because?
Because you're a) trying way too hard
b) being bossy and telling people what to do. I don't like that. Libertarian.
c) using words that are not words.

A) welcome to my town game
B) welcomd to me trying to play the game
C) any word is a word.

#156

greifing=making the game unenjoyable for others, I'm not seeing that yet so I prefer not to go there

Other than that, I see no reason to call for a lynch on anyone at this time

#157

I have always seen the "try hard town" argument be used and every time it ended up on a townie.

llama how many times have you been right with those reasons you have presented?

pedit: For me, when someone says "i am not playing to my full potential or doing deliberate things that are not good for town to improve scum game" i find that to make it very unenjoyable to me only cus it will alawys make me scum read them for it

#158

I can attest to the fact that ika is tryhard and bossy as town.

#159

Silver, do you think my tryhard is more town or scum indicative of me?

#160

Silverwolf wrote:I can attest to the fact that ika is tryhard and bossy as town.

wow ninja.......

god dang it silver why do you do this to me

#161

Silver got any reads yet?

#162

ika wrote:Silver got any reads yet?

Yes one=ika reads annoying

#163

Have either of you (ika, Silver) been baddies on this site yet?

#164

ika wrote:Silver, do you think my tryhard is more town or scum indicative of me?

Mostly town, except for Turf Wars is the only game I've ever seen you tryhard as scum. On both SC2 and MS you are not nearly as active as scum as you are as town.

#165

Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote:Silver got any reads yet?
Yes one=ika reads annoying

thats a town tell right?

#166

Long Con wrote:Have either of you (ika, Silver) been baddies on this site yet?

I have not. ika has in Turf Wars and other games I believe.

#167

ika wrote: pedit: For me, when someone says "i am not playing to my full potential or doing deliberate things that are not good for town to improve scum game" i find that to make it very unenjoyable to me only cus it will alawys make me scum read them for it

Poor you.

#168

ika wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote:Silver got any reads yet?
Yes one=ika reads annoying
thats a town tell right?

Yes

#169

Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote:Silver, do you think my tryhard is more town or scum indicative of me?
Mostly town, except for Turf Wars is the only game I've ever seen you tryhard as scum. On both SC2 and MS you are not nearly as active as scum as you are as town.

Turf wars was an exception, i don't think i could pull it off again. You helped me though.

#170

Silverwolf wrote:
Long Con wrote:Have either of you (ika, Silver) been baddies on this site yet?
I have not. ika has in Turf Wars and other games I believe.

^yes i have that sevral

i haev seen sivlers scum game and right now i see that she is not scum

#171

thellama73 wrote:
ika wrote: pedit: For me, when someone says "i am not playing to my full potential or doing deliberate things that are not good for town to improve scum game" i find that to make it very unenjoyable to me only cus it will alawys make me scum read them for it
Poor you.

So you endorse bad town play?

#172

Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote:Silver got any reads yet?
Yes one=ika reads annoying
thats a town tell right?
Yes

then by that logic i should be town to you. right?

#173

ika wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
ika wrote: pedit: For me, when someone says "i am not playing to my full potential or doing deliberate things that are not good for town to improve scum game" i find that to make it very unenjoyable to me only cus it will alawys make me scum read them for it
Poor you.
So you endorse bad town play?

It's not my place to endorse or condemn different types of play. I am not the emperor of mafia.

#174

But I am the King of the Morlocks.

#175

ika wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote:Silver got any reads yet?
Yes one=ika reads annoying
thats a town tell right?
Yes
then by that logic i should be town to you. right?

Should be, but manipulation is your scum tell also and this is borderline.

#176

thellama73 wrote:
It's not my place to endorse or condemn different types of play. I am not the emperor of mafia.

Well your an S-Mod here so for me i hold you guys to higher standards on what is endorsed and what's not. Nobody is an emperor of mafia and anyone who said they are i would tell them that even if they played every game flawless, that it does not make them mafia god.

#177

ika wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote:Silver, do you think my tryhard is more town or scum indicative of me?
Mostly town, except for Turf Wars is the only game I've ever seen you tryhard as scum. On both SC2 and MS you are not nearly as active as scum as you are as town.
Turf wars was an exception, i don't think i could pull it off again. You helped me though.

Wait, what? Did Silverwolf townread you in Turf Wars?

#178

Silverwolf wrote:
Should be, but manipulation is your scum tell also and this is borderline.

omg how paranoid do you need to be

you know i dont like to maipulate you.

#179

ika wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
It's not my place to endorse or condemn different types of play. I am not the emperor of mafia.
Well your an S-Mod here so for me i hold you guys to higher standards on what is endorsed and what's not. Nobody is an emperor of mafia and anyone who said they are i would tell them that even if they played every game flawless, that it does not make them mafia god.

Hold me to watever standard you like, but I'm just saying, be prepared to be disappointed.

#180

ika wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
It's not my place to endorse or condemn different types of play. I am not the emperor of mafia.
Well your an S-Mod here so for me i hold you guys to higher standards on what is endorsed and what's not. Nobody is an emperor of mafia and anyone who said they are i would tell them that even if they played every game flawless, that it does not make them mafia god.

We are all human, even site mods

#181

Long Con wrote:
ika wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote:Silver, do you think my tryhard is more town or scum indicative of me?
Mostly town, except for Turf Wars is the only game I've ever seen you tryhard as scum. On both SC2 and MS you are not nearly as active as scum as you are as town.
Turf wars was an exception, i don't think i could pull it off again. You helped me though.
Wait, what? Did Silverwolf townread you in Turf Wars?

She never had a full town read on me. if you compare the ricohet game to turf wars you will see a clear difference in silvers defense of me. In turf wars she never let up the suspicions of me, by day 3 she was actively trying to get me lynched. IN richotet game she basicly called me confirmed civ.

like i have said before in turf, we have empathy so we jsut have intuitions to know each ohter when we are town and when we are not.

Silver is much slower to get her reads where i am more quick to generate them

#182

thellama73 wrote:
ika wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
It's not my place to endorse or condemn different types of play. I am not the emperor of mafia.
Well your an S-Mod here so for me i hold you guys to higher standards on what is endorsed and what's not. Nobody is an emperor of mafia and anyone who said they are i would tell them that even if they played every game flawless, that it does not make them mafia god.
Hold me to watever standard you like, but I'm just saying, be prepared to be disappointed.

This is fair.

#183

thellama73 wrote:
ika wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
It's not my place to endorse or condemn different types of play. I am not the emperor of mafia.
Well your an S-Mod here so for me i hold you guys to higher standards on what is endorsed and what's not. Nobody is an emperor of mafia and anyone who said they are i would tell them that even if they played every game flawless, that it does not make them mafia god.
Hold me to watever standard you like, but I'm just saying, be prepared to be disappointed.

Trust me, it doesnt take much to disappoint me, ask silver herself about it.

#184

S~V~S wrote:
ika wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
It's not my place to endorse or condemn different types of play. I am not the emperor of mafia.
Well your an S-Mod here so for me i hold you guys to higher standards on what is endorsed and what's not. Nobody is an emperor of mafia and anyone who said they are i would tell them that even if they played every game flawless, that it does not make them mafia god.
We are all human, even site mods

Except that I'm a llama and you're a bear.

#185

S~V~S wrote:
ika wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
It's not my place to endorse or condemn different types of play. I am not the emperor of mafia.
Well your an S-Mod here so for me i hold you guys to higher standards on what is endorsed and what's not. Nobody is an emperor of mafia and anyone who said they are i would tell them that even if they played every game flawless, that it does not make them mafia god.
We are all human, even site mods

I realize that but for me when someone has a power of authority, i tend to see that they are held to that standard, including improvements to mafia playing. While we are all humans, people who have titles on any site i would think would be more skilled or have a higher standard of practice.

But that is jsut me

#186

ika wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
ika wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
It's not my place to endorse or condemn different types of play. I am not the emperor of mafia.
Well your an S-Mod here so for me i hold you guys to higher standards on what is endorsed and what's not. Nobody is an emperor of mafia and anyone who said they are i would tell them that even if they played every game flawless, that it does not make them mafia god.
Hold me to watever standard you like, but I'm just saying, be prepared to be disappointed.
Trust me, it doesnt take much to disappoint me, ask silver herself about it.

Harsh.

#187

Long Con wrote: Harsh.

Its not silver i get disappointed at, if anything i get disappointed at myself for ~reasons~

But she knows how easily i can get dissapointed at things (no not her)

#188

Aren't site mods really like pod people? Kind of like banksters, libertarians, and Mormons? :P

I wouldn't put to much weight in the lie detector role. I seem to remember Golden using it in World Reborn and being tricked by the mafia.
So that ability can be a double edged sword.

#189

sig wrote:Aren't site mods really like pod people? Kind of like banksters, libertarians, and Mormons? :P

I wouldn't put to much weight in the lie detector role. I seem to remember Golden using it in World Reborn and being tricked by the mafia.
So that ability can be a double edged sword.

How did it get tricked?

#190

Poor choice of statement, his logic surrounding the statement was not airtight.

#191

Long Con wrote:Poor choice of statement, his logic surrounding the statement was not airtight.

can you show me the quote that was checked and how it fooled him?

#192

thellama73 wrote:But I am the King of the Morlocks.

lol

ika wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
It's not my place to endorse or condemn different types of play. I am not the emperor of mafia.
Well your an S-Mod here so for me i hold you guys to higher standards on what is endorsed and what's not. Nobody is an emperor of mafia and anyone who said they are i would tell them that even if they played every game flawless, that it does not make them mafia god.

Moderators on this site are not chosen by their mafia success. They are chosen for being responsible members of the community to help administer the site. Llama is a Technical Moderator, so he helps with forum permissions, and other technical issues.

I would love more people's input on my interaction with ika.

#193

ika wrote:
Long Con wrote:Poor choice of statement, his logic surrounding the statement was not airtight.
can you show me the quote that was checked and how it fooled him?

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 76#p196576

You need to know the context. There was a tied vote between an Indy and a baddie who was NOT on Sorsha's baddie team. I was waiting for ym tiebreaker to come and decide, and Sorsha said this while we were waiting: "As long as the outcome is a baddie or a Indy I'll be happy."

She obviously knew that no baddie from her team was in the tie, so it is true that either of those results would have made her happy - as in, someone died who wasn't on her team.

#194

Dom wrote:
thellama73 wrote:But I am the King of the Morlocks.
lol

ika wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
It's not my place to endorse or condemn different types of play. I am not the emperor of mafia.
Well your an S-Mod here so for me i hold you guys to higher standards on what is endorsed and what's not. Nobody is an emperor of mafia and anyone who said they are i would tell them that even if they played every game flawless, that it does not make them mafia god.
Moderators on this site are not chosen by their mafia success. They are chosen for being responsible members of the community to help administer the site. Llama is a Technical Moderator, so he helps with forum permissions, and other technical issues.

Good thing we're not chosen for Mafia success, or I'd never make it.

I would love more people's input on my interaction with ika.

What's to say? He doesn't want to give his two-seconds-into-the-game reads, and you are not satisfied with his reasons why. I'm not pinged by it personally, the reads are probably not that useful. I've withheld opinions before for various reasons.

#195

I never got around to watching Downton Abbey, is it any good?

I was very anxious and had trouble socializing as a child, so Im not sure I even have a favorite memory. I try not to think too much about it. If I have to choose it would be my first time reading Harry Potter in the second grade, finishing the book after two days. I was a pretty good reader back then, and still am.

#196

Dom wrote:
Well your an S-Mod here so for me i hold you guys to higher standards on what is endorsed and what's not. Nobody is an emperor of mafia and anyone who said they are i would tell them that even if they played every game flawless, that it does not make them mafia god.

Moderators on this site are not chosen by their mafia success. They are chosen for being responsible members of the community to help administer the site. Llama is a Technical Moderator, so he helps with forum permissions, and other technical issues.[/quote]

still getting used to the new groupings. :/

BUt still its just a thing i haev when people are put in those postions i would expect more from them *shrgus*

I would love more people's input on my interaction with ika.

Are you saying our interaction is a Svt?

#197

Dom wrote:
I would love more people's input on my interaction with ika.

It's pretty null overall. Is there something in particular that you are looking for in this interaction?

#198

Silverwolf wrote:
Dom wrote:
I would love more people's input on my interaction with ika.
It's pretty null overall. Is there something in particular that you are looking for in this interaction?

I don't like how it was announced that there were suspicions, but not what they were. Waiting to announce a suspicion is one thing. Announcing a suspicion, but holding it to yourself is weird to me.

#199

ika wrote:
birdwithteeth11 wrote: Not really. How new are you to Epig?
jsut played scum with him. he said he does it to subvert meta and if thats the case i wil most likely try to lynch him all the time cus again, its not town play to nerf yourself to be itentical. its borderline griefing IMO

You're going to be lynching him a lot as a civ then. I've learned through experience that's not a very good way to figure out what side of the fence Epig is on.

#200

Spacedaisy wrote:My only comments at this point is that Epi's refusal to make a lie detector statement says nothing to me about his alignment. I would have had the same response because I know on this site it is common to not allow straight up forced LD statements to be used. And honestly I would have had the same reaction as he did.

I have nothing else that jumps out at me yet, kind of early for me really.

Yeah, I'd agree with this sentiment. Epi refusing to make an LD statement says nothing about his alignment.

I also want to know who made ika the mafia expert? Because to me, it seems like bad form to want to just lynch someone for playing the same or a similar style in every game regardless of alignment.

If he really thinks Epi is bad, I want to hear from him if there is something other than refusing to make an LD statement that makes him want to lynch Epi.....on Day 0?

Who among you is of the terrible sort?