Downton Abbey Mafia (ENDGAME)

[ika]

Let me run this question by you, ika: Instead of telling Lord Grantham what he should have done, why not tell us who you think murdered Silverwolf? That would be the most helpful use of your time. I find it bizarre that I should even have to raise this question to you.

well im goign to look at her read and lynch the people she was supecting and go from there.

i knwo dfar was one of them so im starting there tommorw

daisy is a close second

ill have to read the rest of he reads

[Scotty]

Well. That sucked.

Will be back later tomorrow. My reads are still messed up and this recent turn did nothing to help me. I'm as blind as a bat in a hail storm. Meaning I'm still blind, but I'm also in a hail storm.

[ika]

why would she not be killed n1? she died n2 in heist that you were follwing and i knwo shes not everyones top civ read but she was univeraly town read comapred to everyone else or do you have soemthing to disprove that

Night 2 is not Night 1. I would not have expected Mafia to kill her Night 1 because I think the two of you can be manipulated to defend each other or work with each other to the mafia's favor. I don't know what heist I was following where she died Night 2.

She was not "universally town read." Nobody is Day and Night 1 unless you are bad and know better. Universally means everybody, and everybody didn't agree she was good.[/quote]

when players die early, (night 1/2) in other games i would look into that. its not the point that it was night 2, it was that she died early. that would lead it to have er dying n1 as well. if i was the doc i would of already portected her.

as for the second part about us being maipulated, i doubt it. long con (who i suspect still aslo) was someone that was budding her. it felt like his enitre play for the msot part was trying to get on her good side from what i recall.

and yes i get she was not "universally" town read, but she was the most town read player.

[ika]

Well. That sucked.

Will be back later tomorrow. My reads are still messed up and this recent turn did nothing to help me. I'm as blind as a bat in a hail storm. Meaning I'm still blind, but I'm also in a hail storm.

also i wantedd to yell a bucnh at you, keep on track with silvers reads and push those

[Scotty]

Well. That sucked.

Will be back later tomorrow. My reads are still messed up and this recent turn did nothing to help me. I'm as blind as a bat in a hail storm. Meaning I'm still blind, but I'm also in a hail storm.

also i wantedd to yell a bucnh at you, keep on track with silvers reads and push those

Ok, dad

[ika]

Well. That sucked.

Will be back later tomorrow. My reads are still messed up and this recent turn did nothing to help me. I'm as blind as a bat in a hail storm. Meaning I'm still blind, but I'm also in a hail storm.

also i wantedd to yell a bucnh at you, keep on track with silvers reads and push those

Ok, dad

well we both though youn were obvious town on day 1 and to see you kinda waffle around wanted me to go "SCOTTY FOCUS"

how about this: do you have a color list that you could make off top of head

[Scotty]

Well. That sucked.

Will be back later tomorrow. My reads are still messed up and this recent turn did nothing to help me. I'm as blind as a bat in a hail storm. Meaning I'm still blind, but I'm also in a hail storm.

also i wantedd to yell a bucnh at you, keep on track with silvers reads and push those

Ok, dad

well we both though youn were obvious town on day 1 and to see you kinda waffle around wanted me to go "SCOTTY FOCUS"

how about this: do you have a color list that you could make off top of head

In the middle of a show but will maaaaybe do one tomorrow when traveling. I've never done a rainbow list- never believed in 'em. But I'll probably comb through my original suspicions and see if I can make anything of them.

[sig]

Okay the fact Bubbles/Bea was lynched is ridiculous. People were saying DF is an easy mislynch? bubbles is much much easier to mislynch. The fact that a player who subbed out was lynched was very weird to me. First she was obviously busy hence she subbed out. Second as we can see from Arkham as a baddie she stays in even when busy her leaving made it more obvious that she was a civ/doctor. EVEN worse you lynched a player who subbed out and the player subbing in hadn't have even posted.

EBWOP, because there's two more scenarios that I hadn't thought of previously:

Lady Rose MacClare was talked out of acting on Night 1 because Lady Mary Crawley used her power on Rose;
Lady Rose MacClare had her action redirected to Silverwolf.

James Kent seems like the same kind of role as well:

"James flirts with his target each night, making him or her forget to do anything at night. " Sounds like a role block.

Are you James Kent?

Okay with Bubbles and Sig voting DF for shallow reasons(and myself too, to a degree I will admit) Im thinking about backing off of him. If Matt has not responded to his accusers by the time I leave for a party later this afternoon my vote will go there. I think Ika is the one who is silenced, otherwise he would have posted by now.

My reasoning wasn't shallow. It is a gut/tone based read which as I said has been proven right about DF before. I find it odd for you to say this seeing how you've voted for DF two days in a row.

I'm at work so let me keep my explanation quick. Matt is low engagement right now, but he has not been replaced. I think a person who believes they might not have time is more likely to hang in there longer if they are a civ, because they don't have teammates they know they are letting down. Civs don't know who their teammates are so they are less likely to feel the pressure of helping their team. That was a very fast replacement and she didn't say anything about getting a replacement in her post that I recall. Most civs announce they are going to ask for one.

Wait explain to me why you voted for Bubbles then? I completely disagree with this and I find it to be a very weak reasoning to switch your vote.

Also Llama's logic based around Baddies more likely to be replaces is faulty reasoning. I don't think this is true. I highly doubt a host would favor the mafia over the civs by trying harder to replace them.

I changed my vote to Bubbles. I too will walk the dangerous path.

No reasoning or logic behind this vote? Why diid you vote for Bubbles espacilly since you went after Daisy/Scotty over their posts.


And Llama never even explained his switch? Especially after he wrote a post about voting for Df.

I'm disliking (nah misliking sounds so much better :P) Polo, Matt, Llama, and Space Daisy. Epi is being odd so is Wilgy. However, out of those four I find Llama's and Polo's post flip reactions to be the worse while SD's was better. I don't like Llama trying to lay the blame on SD when he switched for the same reason she did.

Epi you say it was shit yet you voted for it why?

[ika]

hey sig would it be too far fetched that epi is the silencer?

[sig]

hey sig would it be too far fetched that epi is the silencer?

I wouldn't say it was far fetched, but I wouldn't say there is any proof that he is.

[ika]

hey sig would it be too far fetched that epi is the silencer?

I wouldn't say it was far fetched, but I wouldn't say there is any proof that he is.

well consdiering how he seemed to be beithcing about me being unslilenced?

doesnt any of his iso seem to lead to anything of thinking that?

[Spacedaisy]

Let me run this question by you, ika: Instead of telling Lord Grantham what he should have done, why not tell us who you think murdered Silverwolf? That would be the most helpful use of your time. I find it bizarre that I should even have to raise this question to you.

well im goign to look at her read and lynch the people she was supecting and go from there.

i knwo dfar was one of them so im starting there tommorw

daisy is a close second

ill have to read the rest of he reads

That's interesting since she was town reading me.

[ika]

Let me run this question by you, ika: Instead of telling Lord Grantham what he should have done, why not tell us who you think murdered Silverwolf? That would be the most helpful use of your time. I find it bizarre that I should even have to raise this question to you.

well im goign to look at her read and lynch the people she was supecting and go from there.

i knwo dfar was one of them so im starting there tommorw

daisy is a close second

ill have to read the rest of he reads

That's interesting since she was town reading me.

am i not allowed to have reads indepent of her as well?

i would like to hear your thought on this flip, if you already commented could you quote it?

i mean after all you were one of the main wagoners about it

[Epignosis]

Okay the fact Bubbles/Bea was lynched is ridiculous.

No it isn't. It was shit, but not ridiculous- two different things.

People were saying DF is an easy mislynch? bubbles is much much easier to mislynch.

No she isn't. DF gets lynched all the time for stupid reasons. Bubbles doesn't get lynched at all until later on. This is untrue.

The fact that a player who subbed out was lynched was very weird to me. First she was obviously busy hence she subbed out. Second as we can see from Arkham as a baddie she stays in even when busy her leaving made it more obvious that she was a civ/doctor. EVEN worse you lynched a player who subbed out and the player subbing in hadn't have even posted.

Your 20/20 hindsight would have been nice to have seven hours ago, sig.

I changed my vote to Bubbles. I too will walk the dangerous path.

No reasoning or logic behind this vote? Why diid you vote for Bubbles espacilly since you went after Daisy/Scotty over their posts.

No sir. I explained in detail my thinking regarding Bubbles- pros and cons, I did not go after spacedaisy or Scotty over their posts. You are making all this up.

Epi you say it was shit yet you voted for it why?

Because it was shit.

[Spacedaisy]

Oh you are allowed to have whatever reads you like, but the way you phrased that made it sound as though I was second on your list because of silver's reads you were going to push. You should listen to her read on me, she was right.

Epi didn't ever go after me for my posts that I recall.

Yep I was wrong on my theory regarding bubbles replacement, I sure it won't be the last time I'm wrong I my mafia career. It is what it is.

[ika]

Oh you are allowed to have whatever reads you like, but the way you phrased that made it sound as though I was second on your list because of silver's reads you were going to push. You should listen to her read on me, she was right.

Epi didn't ever go after me for my posts that I recall.

Yep I was wrong on my theory regarding bubbles replacement, I sure it won't be the last time I'm wrong I my mafia career. It is what it is.

its a mixture of both, jsut becuase i say something of the sort base don phrasing does not mean its the literal thing.

jsut like how epi was saying "univeral town read" eand everyone when thats not exactly how i apply it all the time. i tend to use a lot of words like that

[Spacedaisy]

Well, don't be surprised if it gets people suspicious. We believe words matter around here. Also, I am probably most confident in you as town fwiw. So don't take my questioning as a sign of distrust.

DF, who are you top suspects currently?

[LoRab]

Crapweasel. I completely forgot the vote ended tonight. I'm away for the weekend for a wedding, and completely lost track of where we were in the day/night game cycle. Sorry!!

disappointed in lynch result. I wouldn't have voted Bubbles--she wasn't reading bad to me. Need to read back to see what got her votes started.

Not sure I'd have voted DF, either. I know I didn't see the case on him early on--need to read back and see his posts myself and also read what people are seeing that make them suspect him.

Honestly not sure where I'd have voted.

Been checking on the game in spurts throughout the day--never time to read more than a few posts at a time. One of those days. Anyway, looking at the current vote getters:

I still don't see the case on Dom. I don't really have a read on him yet, but nothing about his posts screams bad to me. BWT, I can see that his points are inconsistent, which I don't recall as being his norm, so I have an eyebrow on him, and could vote that way. Weak, but a day 1 vote is generally weak. DF seems to be playing typically--not sure I caught what the suspicion of him is based on. Need to reread the posts about him.

I'm sure I had more thoughts, but I can't remember them at the moment. Sleepy after a 12 plus hour work day.

Don't know where Lorab eventually votes, but this caught my eye. I suppose I could go look to see where she eventually votes...

Wilgy. Hrm.

Why does that catch your eye?

To MM, Faraday, Scotty

You helped contribute to a civ lynch on Day 1 by voting Bwt (yeah I did too), and you currently all have your votes on me.

Step it up, gentleman.

I'm going to vote Illy for now in case we want to do a surprise attack on her, but I may change it in about 20 minutes depending on what happens with bea/bubbles and DF.

Well the bad news is you have also just voted for a civilian, and the fact that you are calling to take me out makes you not only wrong, but also contributing to the Mafia goals. What happened to Polo being in the lead? you flipped back to me with no explanation? When I called you out for your illogical stance on me, you came back with "you didn't understand me" not any kind of clarification.

With all of this I am still not voting for you, as right now I think you are simply confused and trying to survive not evil. This can change however.

So I went back and looked at the player list to remind myself who all is playing and I realized I am worried about LoRab. She has been pretty quiet, which is for me, disconcerting. I am putting a vote on her because I want her to know that I am watching. Closely.


Linki: Dom how do you know that Matt didn't ask for one? You are not making me feel awesome about you, can you clarify please?

*votes LoRab*

I accept the vote. And I have been quiet--I'm travelling this weekend, so my schedule has been even wonkier than usual. Also, my game is a lot quieter than it used to be. I'll try to post more, though!!

hey sig would it be too far fetched that epi is the silencer?

Why are you speculating in the thread about who has a civilian role?

[Dom]

Dr. Wilgy, are you going to insist on lurking?

Your sole contribution to the game so far has been "Let's not lynch anyone" or "let's lynch absent folks". You're pretty much lurking, disguised as playing.

This is my second mafia game. What do you expect from me?

Can we lynch this guy?

To MM, Faraday, Scotty

You helped contribute to a civ lynch on Day 1 by voting Bwt (yeah I did too), and you currently all have your votes on me.

Step it up, gentleman.

I'm going to vote Illy for now in case we want to do a surprise attack on her, but I may change it in about 20 minutes depending on what happens with bea/bubbles and DF.

Well the bad news is you have also just voted for a civilian, and the fact that you are calling to take me out makes you not only wrong, but also contributing to the Mafia goals. What happened to Polo being in the lead? you flipped back to me with no explanation? When I called you out for your illogical stance on me, you came back with "you didn't understand me" not any kind of clarification.

With all of this I am still not voting for you, as right now I think you are simply confused and trying to survive not evil. This can change however.

So I went back and looked at the player list to remind myself who all is playing and I realized I am worried about LoRab. She has been pretty quiet, which is for me, disconcerting. I am putting a vote on her because I want her to know that I am watching. Closely.


Linki: Dom how do you know that Matt didn't ask for one? You are not making me feel awesome about you, can you clarify please?

*votes LoRab*

How do I know? I don't. Daisy assumes he did.

Her implication was very obviously that because Bubbles was replaced before Matt, she must be bad. That's some bullsuit because we don't know that Matt wants to be replaced, and given by his behavior in thread, he does not.

Why, exactly, does this make you feel worse about me?

Bugger. That is not ideal.

Dr Wilgy, anytime you want to present some actual evidence I am right here. Dom and you trying to kill me does not make me feel great about either one of you. This lynch has actually been very helpful for me to clarify a few undecideds into categories. Yourself included.

Spoiler alert: It is not the civilians category.

So... you suspect me because I voted for you?
Nice NO U, where'd you get it?

Speaking of Daisy, this the second time she has led us away from voting for DFaraday. I'll probably be voting for her tomorrow.

1) You were the last vote on Bubbles, so this is hypocrisy if I've ever seen it.

2) By your logic, should we not lynch DFaraday first, see if he's bad and THEN vote Daisy?

[Nerolunar]

Crap.

I was in a hurry to leave and forgot to move my vote away from DF. Bubbles got lynched though anyway

I don´t trust our tiebreaker to do his job. Putting a lynch result in the hands of one single player is a bad policy, so I think we should try to avoid ties going forward.

Polo looks bad - speculating on game mechanics and roles instead of actually contributing looks like effort but really isn´t. I know he is new and all, but its not an argument he can use to make us not suspect him.

Still feeling pretty good about Ika. He should spellcheck his posts though, Im having trouble reading what he writes.

[S~V~S]

Happy Sunday Beautiful Players!

You have all made me so happy this week, I am leaving this cute picture of a baby fox cuddling with a stuffed bunny! Enjoy its' cuteness!

[Polo]

This is my second mafia game. What do you expect from me?

Can we lynch this guy?

Why exactly?

Polo looks bad - speculating on game mechanics and roles instead of actually contributing looks like effort but really isn´t. I know he is new and all, but its not an argument he can use to make us not suspect him.

I can guarantee that I'm a civilian in this game just like in the previous one.

The only strategy that I think I know that works is to try and role-guess and take notes of everyone's vote history, along with annotating whether they've suffered any effects from rolepowers and use that to our favor during lynch polls.

That is what I'm doing.

[ika]

Why are you speculating in the thread about who has a civilian role?

sometimes i get board and like to try to figure peoples roles

[Dom]

This is my second mafia game. What do you expect from me?

Can we lynch this guy?

Why exactly?

Polo looks bad - speculating on game mechanics and roles instead of actually contributing looks like effort but really isn´t. I know he is new and all, but its not an argument he can use to make us not suspect him.

I can guarantee that I'm a civilian in this game just like in the previous one.

The only strategy that I think I know that works is to try and role-guess and take notes of everyone's vote history, along with annotating whether they've suffered any effects from rolepowers and use that to our favor during lynch polls.

That is what I'm doing.

Are you new or something?

[Polo]

Are you new or something?

Yes. How many more times need I stress that?

[ika]

Are you new or something?

Yes. How many more times need I stress that?

HEY BUDDY ARE YOU NEW, NO BUDDY YOU ARE NEW HERE, LIKE BUDDY ARE YOU NEW?

:P

(dont answer it i am board and need to crack a joke)

[Polo]

[Spacedaisy]

Dom I neglected to address your comments about me assuming Matt asked for a replacement. I actually did not mean that Matt asked for a replacement, my point was Matt was having difficulty keeping up too but he did not ask for a replacement so quickly. My assumption was bubbles had asked for a replacement and Matt had not.

[Dom]

Are you new or something?

Yes. How many more times need I stress that?

That's precisely the point.

[DFaraday]

Yikes, that was close. Had I been around, I obviously would have switched to Bubbles, though it sucks that she's dead. I'm feeling better about Matt now that he's gotten involved in the game.

Well, don't be surprised if it gets people suspicious. We believe words matter around here. Also, I am probably most confident in you as town fwiw. So don't take my questioning as a sign of distrust.

DF, who are you top suspects currently?

Nero has pinged me with his reasoning and rather unsubstantiated votes for me, and I'm also not liking Wilgy's gimmick posting. He's hardly contributed anything despite being around frequently. Llama's bit about going after you doesn't make sense either. Given his line of thought, obviously it would make more sense to lynch me before you. But don't do that either, Llama.

[DFaraday]

And thanks to whoever Matthew is. You are a gentleman and a scholar.

[Polo]

What decides who gets lynched when two people are tied on the poll? Disconsidering Matthew Crawley's power, do civs have preference over mafia?

[Polo]

What decides who gets lynched when two people are tied on the poll? Disconsidering Matthew Crawley's power, do civs have preference over mafia?

EBWOP: I just noticed his list actually gets sent in the beginning of the game. I thought he had to send a new one each night. Sorry, please ignore that question.

[Epignosis]

What decides who gets lynched when two people are tied on the poll? Disconsidering Matthew Crawley's power, do civs have preference over mafia?

EBWOP: I just noticed his list actually gets sent in the beginning of the game. I thought he had to send a new one each night. Sorry, please ignore that question.

It's a role I invented back in April of 2014 to handle the issue of ties (first appearance was Cyclops in X-Men). The player submits a list before Day 1, and that list can be updated any time (but not after death- if the player died, the last list to be submitted would be used for the remainder of the game). This eliminated the need for coin flips or no-lynches, and provided a concrete mechanic for dealing with ties that slightly favored civilians.

[thellama73]

Also Llama's logic based around Baddies more likely to be replaces is faulty reasoning. I don't think this is true. I highly doubt a host would favor the mafia over the civs by trying harder to replace them.

It's not faulty reasoning. You just disagree with my premise.

[Spacedaisy]

DF, can you tell me your opinion on Illy, ika, Epi and Scotty?

[Spacedaisy]

So we didn't see any insanification today, which makes me wonder if Silver was the insanifier or if the insanifier was role blocked.

[thellama73]

Speaking of Daisy, this the second time she has led us away from voting for DFaraday. I'll probably be voting for her tomorrow.

1) You were the last vote on Bubbles, so this is hypocrisy if I've ever seen it.

2) By your logic, should we not lynch DFaraday first, see if he's bad and THEN vote Daisy?

Not necessarily. Daisy could be leading the lynch away from DF for reasons other than being his teammate, but I'm pretty fine with either lynch candidate at this point.

[Scotty]

Hokay. I'm not gonna rainbow list, but I will list thoughts I have for every person. Nothing super long.

Black Rock: null read for me. Epi's back and forth with her regarding LC didn't ping me either way and for some reason, Lady Edith trusts her. Would like to hear more from Lady Edith in why we should leave BR alone

DFaraday: suspicious only because he garnered so many detractors but I think his detractors had the most hollow of points in suspecting him. I still don't see the arguments against him, and would like to believe that statistically he didn't roll 3 Mafia roles in a row.

Dom: is still a suspect to me. I don't know what constitutes "bad Dom" but I do remember him being slightly antagonistic when he was bad in Arkham. He's not quite to that level right now, but he has a pattern this game of asking people if they are bad, and not following up on it. Aka lots of stoking the fires but not putting any logs on.
His vote for Illy yesterday does nothing to sway my mind.

DrWilgy: I have good vibes from him, though it's very hard to read his diary entries or actions thus far as indicative of his alignment.

Epignosis: I have Epi as slightly civ right now, primarily because he was removed from the poll Day 2. This is a strong statement and I went into the day thinking he looked most fishy for his voting for an outlier day 1. But he has appeared to offer something of substance as a civ so far, so I'm doubling back on my original suspicion.

Illyria: it's a toss up. I see that most of her writing hasn't been brought with substance, but she could just need to get her bearings after being away for so long. Someone brought up that she had been asking questions in thread a bit too much. I don't know her playstyle, but on the surface she seems like she could be posing. I mean that not as Audrey Hepburn, but as Milli Vanilli. Ya dig?

Ika: ika Is acting different than his last game where he was bad. I think he is thinking along linear tracks that makes sense. No reason to suspect him right now.

Long Con: slight pings here and there, but nothing overwhelming. He suspects me for buddying him and for a few other things, which I guess makes sense. I agreed with his assumptions day 1, but day 2 he grew weary and has been a little slipperier.

LoRab: looks bad. I didn't remember anything she has said so I ISO'd her. Not a lot of anything there. Half her posts are just nostalgic posts of the past or asking questions. The other parts:
Day 1, she laments that she doesn't see the case on Dom or DFaraday because they're both playing typically. She votes BWT with the crowd because...he made an inconsistent point, and that was unlike him. Then, shying away from all the bandwagons 24 hours later, does a meaningless vote for Wilgy because he is posting in normal Albeit strange Wilgy manner- also demanding he post normally.
She has played with Wilgy before and knows he has some quirky posting style every game. For someone that doesn't suspect certain people for posting similar to their meta, this is a surprising vote.
Day 2, she misses the vote, and comes back recently saying she doesn't know how she would have voted. Offers the same excuse: "I need to reread" the case on DFaraday. She accepts Epi's suspicion for being quiet, and says that her game has been unusually quiet so far.
Her excuses make her seem worse for wear. Even admitting recently that her game has changed recently.
I think LoRab could very well be bad, and would like to follow this suspicion further.

Matt: I'm feeling better about Matt. I probably would have taken my vote off him towards the end since he actually started to catch up and post thoughts lol

MetalMarsh: ehhh this guy is my top 3 suspects. We have voted similarly but I think his votes are disengenuous. His comments seem....hmm, off? Somehow? Than normal bantery MM. Like he's trying to appear civ.

Nero: null read. I go from civ to bad. It's not that he's pinging me, but that he's not saying anything that is making me feel he is civ.

Polo: he's a newb and I lean civ right now. Epi trusts him.

Sig: I like his posts and am reading him as civ. Which, as he has said, if he appears civ then he is probably bad. So...

Sorsha: she's taken a pretty aggressive stance this game. Not sure what that says about her alignment. Null read

Space daisy: don't have time to ISO her now, but I haven't really had a great read from her. I'm leeeeaaaaning bad but she has said some stuff (from tone) that reads civ.

Llama: I don't like llama coming out brazenly and latching onto a Nero lynch, not expanding on it, and then changing to Bubbles at the end. Could he really have something on Nero and want to stave it off until a time he can really peg him, and ultimately just jumped on a suspicion of someone else? Llama is a null leaaaaaaning civ read for me.

[thellama73]

And the hypocrisy argument doesn't really work in mafia, because you're essentially saying I should suspect myself. I know that my role is civilian, but I don't know that about Daisy.

[thellama73]

Llama: I don't like llama coming out brazenly and latching onto a Nero lynch, not expanding on it, and then changing to Bubbles at the end. Could he really have something on Nero and want to stave it off until a time he can really peg him, and ultimately just jumped on a suspicion of someone else? Llama is a null leaaaaaaning civ read for me.

Oh yeah, I can explain this now. I noticed Nero had been quiet for a while and I wanted to provoke him into coming out. I wanted to see how he would react to an unexplained vote. Sometimes you can get good reads on people by seeing how they react to an unexpected attack. His response didn't really ping me though, so I let it go.

[Spacedaisy]

Llama: What reason would lead a baddie to try and keep the civs from lynching another civ?

[thellama73]

Llama: What reason would lead a baddie to try and keep the civs from lynching another civ?

DF has ben up for a lynch twice in a row now. The longer he stay alive, the longer he will keep dominating the conversation and drawing votes. If he dies, the people who suspect him will be forced to look elsewhere, maybe at the real baddies. Keeping a civ who keeps almost getting lynched alive is immensely beneficial to the mafia.

[Spacedaisy]

You are suggesting that I as a baddie would draw attention to myself by not only being part of a bandwagon mislynch, but leading two of them, in order to keep another civ alive? In game a where there are only 3 baddies on the team? Llama, you are setting up lynches a day out and your logic is highly questionable.

[Nerolunar]

Llama: What reason would lead a baddie to try and keep the civs from lynching another civ?

DF has ben up for a lynch twice in a row now. The longer he stay alive, the longer he will keep dominating the conversation and drawing votes. If he dies, the people who suspect him will be forced to look elsewhere, maybe at the real baddies. Keeping a civ who keeps almost getting lynched alive is immensely beneficial to the mafia.

Good point. Thats sort-of what happened in Turf Wars with Sig.

[Spacedaisy]

No, this is not at all what happened in Turf Wars. What happened there is the baddies sat back and let you go after each other because that's all the civs did for most of the game. Nothing like what llama is suggesting I am doing.

[Nerolunar]

No, this is not at all what happened in Turf Wars. What happened there is the baddies sat back and let you go after each other because that's all the civs did for most of the game. Nothing like what llama is suggesting I am doing.

We spent too much time talking about certain people, Sig was one of them. He was a lynch priority for a long time, and we kept talking it over. Its not the exact same, but the similarities are still there.

[Spacedaisy]

No, you spent the game with civs going after civs. It wasn't just one or two. The baddies didn't have to do a thing because the civs were doing their job for them. I was there and watching it all, so I am very aware of how it went down. Llama is suggesting I am bad and sticking my neck out in order to protect someone I know is civ just in order to keep people talking about him. Which would be about the stupidest thing I could do as a baddie in this game. Numbers are not in their favor, they are not going to stick their necks out in such a manner.

[thellama73]

Maybe you're right, Daisy, but wouldn't this be a clever ploy if for you if I am right?

I'll tell you what, lynch DF if you think he's bad, and if he flips bad, then talk about voting for me. But until you know DF is bad, stop trying to paint me as bad for not wanting to vote for him. I am not bad.

[Marmot]

i think thats most everything about it?

its was dumb to lynch that, dfar needs rope tommorw,him or MM im using silvers reads to lycnht em all

So mafia killed Silverwolf. Why then does that make her reads mafia? The opposite could just as easily be true, as in mafia killed Silverwolf to throw their pursuers off their trail.

Well. That sucked.

Will be back later tomorrow. My reads are still messed up and this recent turn did nothing to help me. I'm as blind as a bat in a hail storm. Meaning I'm still blind, but I'm also in a hail storm.

also i wantedd to yell a bucnh at you, keep on track with silvers reads and push those

Ok, dad

well we both though youn were obvious town on day 1 and to see you kinda waffle around wanted me to go "SCOTTY FOCUS"

how about this: do you have a color list that you could make off top of head

Doesn't this make Scotty the most town player on Day 1? :P

Okay the fact Bubbles/Bea was lynched is ridiculous. People were saying DF is an easy mislynch? bubbles is much much easier to mislynch. The fact that a player who subbed out was lynched was very weird to me. First she was obviously busy hence she subbed out. Second as we can see from Arkham as a baddie she stays in even when busy her leaving made it more obvious that she was a civ/doctor. EVEN worse you lynched a player who subbed out and the player subbing in hadn't have even posted.

I think that's only hindsight speaking. Her baddie play in Arkham doesn't correlate to this game so easily.

I changed my vote to Bubbles. I too will walk the dangerous path.

No reasoning or logic behind this vote? Why diid you vote for Bubbles espacilly since you went after Daisy/Scotty over their posts.


And Llama never even explained his switch? Especially after he wrote a post about voting for Df.

I'm disliking (nah misliking sounds so much better :P) Polo, Matt, Llama, and Space Daisy. Epi is being odd so is Wilgy. However, out of those four I find Llama's and Polo's post flip reactions to be the worse while SD's was better. I don't like Llama trying to lay the blame on SD when he switched for the same reason she did.

Epi you say it was shit yet you voted for it why?

I understood it that Epignosis was calling his own decision shitty, not the whole thing.

If not, well then his vote was shit.


Lol, Epignosis saying all the same things that I did.

Crap.

I was in a hurry to leave and forgot to move my vote away from DF. Bubbles got lynched though anyway

I don´t trust our tiebreaker to do his job. Putting a lynch result in the hands of one single player is a bad policy, so I think we should try to avoid ties going forward.

Polo looks bad - speculating on game mechanics and roles instead of actually contributing looks like effort but really isn´t. I know he is new and all, but its not an argument he can use to make us not suspect him.

Still feeling pretty good about Ika. He should spellcheck his posts though, Im having trouble reading what he writes.

Also, what do you mean you were going to vote away from DF? I see that you wanted to back off, but why not do it then?

And also, I disagree about the tie-deciding. Putting the lynch in the hands of a civilian is better than putting the lynch into the hands of fate (a coin toss).

Are you new or something?

Yes. How many more times need I stress that?

HEY BUDDY ARE YOU NEW, NO BUDDY YOU ARE NEW HERE, LIKE BUDDY ARE YOU NEW?

:P

(dont answer it i am board and need to crack a joke)

Are you new or something?

Yes. How many more times need I stress that?

That's precisely the point.

What?