Mafia Championship Scrimmage [END]

[Tangrowth]

Okay, okay, DrWilgy ISO. Yes. I need to focus.

Meanwhile, MM, any way you can provide a half-rainbow/non-rainbow list thingy, or at least give us some more reads? And respond to my inquiry (too lazy to link it) asking for an explanation on why you're scum reading me? Thanks.

Linki w/ zebra: Sloonei.

[Marmot]

And if it does, it falls into his mafia meta as you have described it.

That's fair, you're right that a failure to match his meta completely is more historically indicative of mafia Sloonei from what I've seen than town Sloonei. I think it's at least as believable that he just is too busy though, like he warned us he would be.

I mean, I see where you're coming from, but it doesn't discount all the other stuff in Sloonei's behavior from what I can remember. To be fair, I need to ISO him, but he has a decent amount of posts and I don't think I have enough time. If you want, I can try to ISO him instead of Zexy, since I'm more strongly town reading Zexy before my ISO exercises. Or feel free to ISO him yourself as well, I'd be more than happy to comment on it.

So why don't you join me in a vote for Sloonei?

[a2thezebra]

I'll make a post showing what sticks out to me.

[Tangrowth]

And if it does, it falls into his mafia meta as you have described it.

That's fair, you're right that a failure to match his meta completely is more historically indicative of mafia Sloonei from what I've seen than town Sloonei. I think it's at least as believable that he just is too busy though, like he warned us he would be.

I mean, I see where you're coming from, but it doesn't discount all the other stuff in Sloonei's behavior from what I can remember. To be fair, I need to ISO him, but he has a decent amount of posts and I don't think I have enough time. If you want, I can try to ISO him instead of Zexy, since I'm more strongly town reading Zexy before my ISO exercises. Or feel free to ISO him yourself as well, I'd be more than happy to comment on it.

So why don't you join me in a vote for Sloonei?

Because I was slight town reading him as of my last rainbow, and nothing has really happened since then to change my mind much, other than Sloonei's professed lack of energy, which is difficult to interpret. I'll take a look at him though, I promise.

[Marmot]

Okay, okay, DrWilgy ISO. Yes. I need to focus.

Meanwhile, MM, any way you can provide a half-rainbow/non-rainbow list thingy, or at least give us some more reads? And respond to my inquiry (too lazy to link it) asking for an explanation on why you're scum reading me? Thanks.

Linki w/ zebra: Sloonei.

It's not a true scumread, and I couldn't be bothered to go read all of your posts again before Day 1 ends.

It's a result of my Sloonei suspicion. I'm also wary of your hesitance to lynch him. It appears to me that you are defending him.

GTH Sloonei?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Notice: Epignosis is replacing Long Con.

I am aware of the situation with Soneji and it is being worked out. I would advise players against speculating about his potential replacement or non-replacement.

The deadline for Day 1 is in 3 hours and 47 minutes at precisely 10:00 PM Eastern US/Canada time. The hammer vote is the 9th.

[Golden]

What MM fails to account for in his case on sloonei is the extent to which sloonei already town read or trusted ika vs frog. If I came on asking people who I should vote for and a person I didn't have any reason to trust gave me one answer and a person I'm reading as town gave me another, I know I'd dismiss one and focus on the other.

[Epignosis]

I got a Night 0 red peek on MovingPicutres07, Golden, and Silverwolf.

How am I doing so far?

[Tangrowth]

Ahhhhh I'm losing steam. Someone pump me up.

[Tangrowth]

Okay, okay, DrWilgy ISO. Yes. I need to focus.

Meanwhile, MM, any way you can provide a half-rainbow/non-rainbow list thingy, or at least give us some more reads? And respond to my inquiry (too lazy to link it) asking for an explanation on why you're scum reading me? Thanks.

Linki w/ zebra: Sloonei.

It's not a true scumread, and I couldn't be bothered to go read all of your posts again before Day 1 ends.

It's a result of my Sloonei suspicion. I'm also wary of your hesitance to lynch him. It appears to me that you are defending him.

GTH Sloonei?

Oh, so you don't scumread me, but you were reaction baiting me or something? Figures. :P

No need to be wary of my hesitance. I'm very soft defending him, yeah, only because he's still on the town side of my rainbow, even if barely. I'll dig through his posts in a bit and show you some of the towniness I see him in here after I'm done with Wilgy.

GTH? Town.

[Golden]

I got a Night 0 red peek on MovingPicutres07, Golden, and Silverwolf.

How am I doing so far?

Scum.

[Golden]

OK, now I'm on board with an LC lynch

[Tangrowth]

Welcome Epi! See you later, LC.

Guess what? I'm having bean dip. :P

[Marmot]

What MM fails to account for in his case on sloonei is the extent to which sloonei already town read or trusted ika vs frog. If I came on asking people who I should vote for and a person I didn't have any reason to trust gave me one answer and a person I'm reading as town gave me another, I know I'd dismiss one and focus on the other.

I fail to see how Frog being Sloonei's top suspect only a few hours beforehand supports this statement.

[Tangrowth]

What MM fails to account for in his case on sloonei is the extent to which sloonei already town read or trusted ika vs frog. If I came on asking people who I should vote for and a person I didn't have any reason to trust gave me one answer and a person I'm reading as town gave me another, I know I'd dismiss one and focus on the other.

This is an excellent point; I agree.

[Golden]

I do like MM's responses to heat, though.

And in all seriousness, I intend to let Epi get his head into the game, so I won't vote there.

[Dyslexicon]

Why is Golden null?

Cause he goes back and forth in my mind. Is that surprising to you?

3) Effort. I can try all I want to replicate this as mafia, and my post count isn't indicative of my alignment, but when push comes to shove town MP exudes effort in a way that mafia MP cannot match. So far, given my RL constraints, I think I've demonstrated this.

This is half convincing to me. The effort is definitely great.

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Was going to write commentary as I read, but then I forgot, but now I remembered. And um.

- So I'm already thinking MP looks a lot better to me, or else he is a fantastic talker.
- I don't want Ika to always have the excuse of "I gut read" and honestly he haven't been giving that many reads either. Mostly he has been repeating stuff about his playstyle and not contributed that much thoughts and reads to the game. I'm still reading him town. I tend to read emotion as townish, generally (maybe to a fault), but the particular emotion I see here looks more like coming from town than scum, like defensive about his playstyle not being seen as valid/helpful? I wish him and Silver would interact less, and he'd interact more with others, go more after reads, get more into the game etc.
- MP mentioning again that Golden has fooled him before. Golden has at points looked like how I imagine I look when I'm scum, which makes me more paranoid about him again. Golden will be ecstatic to read this commentary.
- I'm not digesting Frog's posts well, and I'm skimming a lot of them. So much meta-game commentary and theories and things that may or may not be applicable and stuff that most certainly is not applicable to everyone/every situation. The drunkenness is entertaining though. I'm kind of assuming he is town. Yay me. He posts a looot, and I don't think everything adds to the game that much making it harder for "slankers" to catch up. Am I allowed to say that? I did it anyway.
- I totally don't get holding your vote on unvote ever. Missed opportunity. Playstyle I guess. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You say this over and over and it makes me go back to suspecting you a little. Should I suspect you and ika are scum buddies because you defend each other? Or should I recognise that you know each others meta and listen to you when you talk about each other?

You've chosen not to acknowledge any of the things I've said when you've referenced my defense of MP.

Yup, Golden!scum and MP!Town > Golden!Town and MP!Scum - Or both the same alignments, but probably not both scum (?) <---- Thoughts and stuff.

I'm town and I'd like to keep playing, but keeping MP alive takes the top priority right now.

VOTE A2THEZEBRA

- What is this play? Sacrificial. Should I buy it? First instinct says yes. Then it's all "unlike when I'm scum I will not make things up, so I'm totes town being heroic". Meh. Why the "I have no scum reads" when you, Zebra, clearly have disagreements with players. I.e saying Golden should know better. Why not at least vote another lurker?
- Speaking of, I kind of don't want to see "you should know better" or "you're misrepping me!", I don't know it just irks me lol.

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Details: if anyone is interested: Calling MP's push on Ika "an easy push" is maybe not the correct usage. But it is a potentially easy case to make, and Ika had made himself an easy target imo, assuming he's town.

Musings: I may be giving some players too much leeway here, but it is what it is. Townreading Silver and Ika ftw!

[Dyslexicon]

To page 29 Part II

I appreciate the confidence and that someone actually seems content in helping avoid a mislynch, but let's try and redirect this towards another individual. I'm town reading you enough to not want you lynched either.

Weird response if you assume she is town though. Ugh. Why can you not make sense and make me happy all the time and not just almost all of the time.

DO NOT BREING OUR DATING LIFE TO THIS GAME WE HAVE NOT ONCE USED THAT I HAVE EXPLTIVLY ASKED FOR IT TO REAMIN OUT OF GAME

Well, dating, or just calling it you know each other really well, you both have brought the latter very much into the game yourself (which is expected). I would like more reads from you! Moar! Everything you got! \o/

I'm not discrediting or deliberately misinterpreting shit. What the hell are you talking about?

You and ika are perhaps the two most frustrating people I've ever played with. I respect you both greatly and think you're swell, but god damn.

I believe town!you would say this in this spot. Mebbe. Hi.

I'll start dating MP if it helps

I ship this!

I'm tired of everyone bitching about how ika and I play.

If you'd prefer, I can just not join any more games here.

Takes two (in this case 3-4?) to tango! *butts in*
I like all of your playstyles, but I'd like more focus on reads, and less on repeating the same argument. You are all feeding into a thing that doesn't really go anywhere as I see it. Speaking of, hasn't Frog been all "town should not fight town, I, the Frog knows this and we must prevail!" - has he tried to make sense of your argument? Just an association, not really thinking Frog as scum. Hi.

Exactly, it is a stupid idea. Therefore, no one would see it coming!

I don't like this, though I'm pretty sure I'd make this post as any alignment cause I'm a troll.

Right, and I totally understand your frustration because I've been a major lynch candidate before because of ika as well. I know I'm the last one with a right to say this, but we need to decide on someone to lynch that isn't me or you.

So you do want to be saved. Why do you want others to decide who that is for you? This is just scummy. Rawr.

Let me do a quick ISO of MM, I also looked over Dizzy he is strangish? I'm not sure if it is a culture clash or what. So I'm putting that on the shelf for the time.

No. I want you to at least briefly state what your suspicion on me is based on since you've mentioned it a couple of times. What is strange etc etc? Haven't felt a lot of/any questioning from you so I'm curious.

[Tangrowth]

I got a Night 0 red peek on MovingPicutres07, Golden, and Silverwolf.

How am I doing so far?

Terribly.

[Golden]

Guess what? I'm having bean dip. :P

[Tangrowth]

Hello, Dizzy! Let me read that stuff... but I need to keep ISOing Wilgy. So I'm officially taking a break from staying up to date here.

[Marmot]

What MM fails to account for in his case on sloonei is the extent to which sloonei already town read or trusted ika vs frog. If I came on asking people who I should vote for and a person I didn't have any reason to trust gave me one answer and a person I'm reading as town gave me another, I know I'd dismiss one and focus on the other.

This is an excellent point; I agree.

MP! Why do you accept this statement but pass over my response?

[Epignosis]

31 pages.

Checks Day phase.

[Dyslexicon]

Wait, how the hell did all the votes move from Zebra? I'm not currently thinking that is a good idea. Fishy self vote I want to sacrifice but I want to live is fishy.

[Dyslexicon]

VOTE A2THEZEBRA

But will continue to catch up.

So many posts!

[Golden]

What MM fails to account for in his case on sloonei is the extent to which sloonei already town read or trusted ika vs frog. If I came on asking people who I should vote for and a person I didn't have any reason to trust gave me one answer and a person I'm reading as town gave me another, I know I'd dismiss one and focus on the other.

I fail to see how Frog being Sloonei's top suspect only a few hours beforehand supports this statement.

Good! I hadn't done any research on it, I was just picking holes in your case for you to fill.

Now, I think it's a pretty decent one.

[Marmot]

What MM fails to account for in his case on sloonei is the extent to which sloonei already town read or trusted ika vs frog. If I came on asking people who I should vote for and a person I didn't have any reason to trust gave me one answer and a person I'm reading as town gave me another, I know I'd dismiss one and focus on the other.

I fail to see how Frog being Sloonei's top suspect only a few hours beforehand supports this statement.

Good! I hadn't done any research on it, I was just picking holes in your case for you to fill.

Now, I think it's a pretty decent one.

I don't remember it from my catch-up, so at the time it didn't stand out to me.

Would you vote for Sloonei today?

[Golden]

What MM fails to account for in his case on sloonei is the extent to which sloonei already town read or trusted ika vs frog. If I came on asking people who I should vote for and a person I didn't have any reason to trust gave me one answer and a person I'm reading as town gave me another, I know I'd dismiss one and focus on the other.

I fail to see how Frog being Sloonei's top suspect only a few hours beforehand supports this statement.

Good! I hadn't done any research on it, I was just picking holes in your case for you to fill.

Now, I think it's a pretty decent one.

I don't remember it from my catch-up, so at the time it didn't stand out to me.

Would you vote for Sloonei today?

To be precise.

You have convinced me to add Sloonei to the list of people I will consider voting today.

He would not be my preferred vote, because I'd be interested to see his response to your case and I don't think we'll get that today.

But if he does end up being the lynchee, I think the reasons for it are solid.

[Sloonei]

Somebody tell me who I should vote for. I am not going to be able to read this thread tonight. Or tomorrow. Or the next day. I probably should have stayed on the sidelines.

Sloonei pops in and says this last night, asking everyone who he should vote for. Ika was the first one to respond to him with movingpictures, to which Sloonei immediately asks why.

Somebody tell me who I should vote for. I am not going to be able to read this thread tonight. Or tomorrow. Or the next day. I probably should have stayed on the sidelines.

moving picutre

Why?

And again.

Somebody tell me who I should vote for. I am not going to be able to read this thread tonight. Or tomorrow. Or the next day. I probably should have stayed on the sidelines.

moving picutre

Why?

you asked who to vote for noting else

Now I'm asking why. Why?

But after ika gives Sloonei MP's name, Frog chimes in with a list of 4 names. Here is Sloonei's response.

Somebody tell me who I should vote for. I am not going to be able to read this thread tonight. Or tomorrow. Or the next day. I probably should have stayed on the sidelines.

I already gave you 4 names, let me lead
[*]Marshmellow
[*]Pilfirmous
[*]Dr Wigly
[*]A2Zebra

I won't vote metalmarsh because being flaky and elusive early on is his MO. I won't vote Pligifudhdjd because they're a stranger and I don't want to vote a stranger on Day 1 without substance to back me up. Zebra is sometimes quiet and sometimes aggressive early on. Her quietness, in my experience, has been either because she's scum or is busy. I could vote for her.
Wilgy is normally a vocal player but Imm pretty sure he's currently in a tense late-game situation in Spirited Away so his semi-absence here would be explainable.

Zebra is my top choice of these names, I guess. I'll have a look.

Sloonei doesn't ask why, but takes those four names and narrows his options down to zebra. He then comes up with a weak case on zebra.

This isn't spam by the way because I'm making a crucial point with these posts.

D.

Okay, now I have a total of 11 posts. I am no longer in the bottom four.

...And yet I am just as likely to be bad as I was before I started posting.

Frog can deny it all he wants, but the methods he's using to base his vote are absolutely advocating a policy lynch.

This seems like zebra is just trying to be contrarian and throw a wrench in Frog's proposed plan, but the stated reasoning does not really seem effective or sensible. Just "I'm going to tell you this plan is bad because I can."

Then he votes for zebra.

VOTE A2THEZEBRA, happy!?

Addendum: Sloonei treats the interactions with ika and Frog in these circumstances way too differently. Ika suggests he vote MP, and does give reasons why, but ika asks for evidence, before disappearing. Then you have the Frog interaction, where Sloonei readily narrowed his vote down to zebra, voted for zebra (with the strange reluctant "Happy!?" thrown in), and hasn't posted since.

I realize Sloonei has very limited time this game, but I still don't like this sequence. I think Sloonei is bad.

I asked ima why but not Frog because I knew Frog had narrowed his list down to the four of you because you hadn't posted much at that time. Ika just drew MP's name out of a hat and I wanted him to give us all something substantial.
Hello and goodbye again, I just got home from work and now I have to run back out. I'm sorry for taking up a spot in this game, my schedule is not getting better any time soon.

[Marmot]

Hi Sloonei!

Bye Sloonei.

[ika]

im amazed at the lack of town core thats being made, everyone is just letting everything go by.

i am disappointed that everyone says "OH WE ARE LSITENING" but doesnt seem to actauly take it intoconsidera tion

[Marmot]

Consider me highly amused that Golden states that Sloonei will likely not respond to the case today, and Sloonei drops a response into the thread within seconds of that.

[Tangrowth]

Dammit, so far Wilgy is a big nully nullface.

[a2thezebra]

Sig came in and tried to drag as much content out of things as he could. I'd like that if it didn't feel like such an effort to distance oneself from the label of low participation or scumminess.
Let's VOTE SIG

While not his first post, this seems like an honest entrance into hunting baddies for this game. I'm not sure I agree but it feels genuine.

After some quick back-and-forth regarding that sig vote, Sloonei switches to Frog here.

Frog for introducing himself by telling us all he's town and then posing a question that isn't related to anything going on right now.

I mentioned after reading his ISO initially that Sloonei could stand to widen his focus a bit, and the reason I said that is because much of Sloonei's ISO concerns Frog. The same was true for me until not that long ago, so it would be hypocritical to criticize him for this, but I do think it's worth pointing out in case anyone thinks that a Sloonei with narrow focus is a baddie Sloonei, or the opposite. If it's aligment-indicative either way then it's worth mentioning.

RVS - is "Random Voting Stage" - it's the part of the beginning of the game where votes are almost entirely random, and the first 50-100 posts are jokes, gifs, and mostly devoid of content. I don't like that method of gameplay when my win con requires that I solve the game. Which is why I brought up a strategy discussion instead.

I know what RVS refers to, but I've seen a lot of people have a lot of different definitions and interpretations of it. You seem to be opposed to it. I come from a community that thrives on it. But your concern about joke posts does not need to apply here. We are very serious about our random nonsense voting. I believe throwing things against the wall and seeing what sticks is a good way to start the game, so that's always what I will do. It's how I start solving the game.
I also like strategy discussion. But I don't necessarily think talking strategy is a town-tell. So I'll need more content out of you if I'm going to start reading you as town.

I like this post for a number of biased reasons. When I was demonstrating what I take issue with about Frog's proposal of going after the lower posters, a number of people took issue with my spam-influenced demonstration by pointing out that Frog was judging the potential alignments of players not by post number quantity but their content quantity. The reason that I didn't feel that that was a relevant clarification was partly because of what Sloonei says here. Content is not objective. Even off-topic posts and pure fluff can serve to develop alignments and opinions, so Frog's notion that content can be measure objectively, and that he's the one for the job, is ludicrous to me. Frog values strategy and does not value RVS. Sloonei values both. I actually value RVS over strategic approaches, because in my experience players that focus on strategy either use a lot of it to convince people that they are town when they are not (initially Frog struck me as this) or they simply use it as a genuine method of going after baddies when in the long run it is rarely if ever useful (this is how I see Frog at this point). The reason I emphasize this post is because I am biased towards it for helping me illustrate my view on these things, and I don't want to be swayed to town read Sloonei simply because of this.

What's good? I ate some brownies last night that still haven't completely worn off.

My phone died ;__;

You have any leftovers? I could use some.

Nope, there were fourteen to start with and between four people sharing them I ate five. None remain.

I am lacking energy

I think the failure to take in the implications and importance of this post, in addition to Sloonei referring to himself in third person earlier among other hints, has clouded MM's judgment (as well as anyone else who genuinely suspects Sloonei) because all of Sloonei's posts after this one could be read as inconsistent due to being baddie-motivated as opposed to being inconsistent due to Sloonei being exhausted with the game in general, particularly thanks to a number of back-and-forth conflicts with Frog. This inconsistency being...

Somebody tell me who I should vote for. I am not going to be able to read this thread tonight. Or tomorrow. Or the next day. I probably should have stayed on the sidelines.

moving picutre

Why?

Somebody tell me who I should vote for. I am not going to be able to read this thread tonight. Or tomorrow. Or the next day. I probably should have stayed on the sidelines.

I already gave you 4 names, let me lead
[*]Marshmellow
[*]Pilfirmous
[*]Dr Wigly
[*]A2Zebra

I won't vote metalmarsh because being flaky and elusive early on is his MO. I won't vote Pligifudhdjd because they're a stranger and I don't want to vote a stranger on Day 1 without substance to back me up. Zebra is sometimes quiet and sometimes aggressive early on. Her quietness, in my experience, has been either because she's scum or is busy. I could vote for her.
Wilgy is normally a vocal player but Imm pretty sure he's currently in a tense late-game situation in Spirited Away so his semi-absence here would be explainable.

Zebra is my top choice of these names, I guess. I'll have a look.

...these two posts. I believe this was MM's main point against Sloonei. The reason I don't share MM's suspicion for it is because I feel that Sloonei's exhaustion has been overlooked, and I also think that Sloonei's differing responses to those who answered his question of who to vote for can be explained by the responses being different, rather that Sloonei being opportunistic or disingenuous. ika provides Sloonei with a name and no explanation. Simply, "moving picutre". I don't think it's out of the question for Sloonei to ask for some elaboration on that answer, given that the entire post is a name and nothing more. Frog is different, because not only has Frog has established exactly what his approach to this game is going to be, he has emphasized this approach to Sloonei in particular over the course of the game so far. Therefore, even if Frog provided no explanation to his lynch options just as ika did, it wouldn't be inconsistent for Sloonei not to ask for more elaboration because Sloonei is already well-aware of why Frog wants to go after that particular group of people. But on top of that, Frog did restate his reasons for going after this group in the response to Sloonei's initial question anyway, so no elaboration was required even if Frog hadn't already made his modus operandi quite clear.

I also don't think MM's suspicion of this supposed inconsistency is justified when looking at how exactly Sloonei responded to Frog here. Yes, he didn't ask for elaboration, but he didn't jump on board either. He simply said that he'll "have a look" regarding the selection that Frog gave him.

VOTE A2THEZEBRA, happy!?

...but then this happened. I ain't mad, but I can see why MM and others would find it a little baffling. My ultimate point with Sloonei's more recent posts is that I honestly feel that what he said and his action here can be chalked up to his lack of energy rather than any baddie-motivated reason.

Let me know what you guys think.

[Silverwolf]

I'm leaving in 10 minutes. I feel like I'm losing my fight this game.

I really don't care who we lynch today because my strong townreads are not under consideration.

ika isn't saying much and this has me very concerned

IAWY-MP's points are a very superficial and amount to playstyle and I have him back at null

sig isn't making me feel good either

That's all I have.

[a2thezebra]

What MM fails to account for in his case on sloonei is the extent to which sloonei already town read or trusted ika vs frog. If I came on asking people who I should vote for and a person I didn't have any reason to trust gave me one answer and a person I'm reading as town gave me another, I know I'd dismiss one and focus on the other.

This also sums up my thoughts on that particular part of MM's case on Sloonei quite nicely.

[Golden]

Consider me highly amused that Golden states that Sloonei will likely not respond to the case today, and Sloonei drops a response into the thread within seconds of that.

that was pretty good.

[Epignosis]

I cannot guarantee how much of this I will get through before the deadline. I see the thread will be locked at Night. That helps.

[Silverwolf]

I will say I don't want to lynch Zebra or Sloonei today. Metalmarsh is looking better also and Epi needs a chance to post.

[Epignosis]

I cannot guarantee how much of this I will get through before the deadline. I see the thread will be locked at Night. That helps.

Well, it doesn't help me getting through it all before the deadline. I just mean...you get it.

[ika]

I'm leaving in 10 minutes. I feel like I'm losing my fight this game.

I really don't care who we lynch today because my strong townreads are not under consideration.

ika isn't saying much and this has me very concerned

IAWY-MP's points are a very superficial and amount to playstyle and I have him back at null

sig isn't making me feel good either

That's all I have.

silver if you had to name the sucm team right now who would it be? that and 2 outsider incase the 4 are wrong?

if they killyou n1 img onna agrro the thread

[Marmot]

Well by golly, you all better at least lynch Sloonei before you lynch me.

[a2thezebra]

What MM fails to account for in his case on sloonei is the extent to which sloonei already town read or trusted ika vs frog. If I came on asking people who I should vote for and a person I didn't have any reason to trust gave me one answer and a person I'm reading as town gave me another, I know I'd dismiss one and focus on the other.

I fail to see how Frog being Sloonei's top suspect only a few hours beforehand supports this statement.

A lot can change in a few hours regarding reads, you know this just as well as I do.

[Golden]

I really don't care who we lynch today because my strong townreads are not under consideration.

Who are your strong townreads?

How do you feel about IAWY at this point? Is that still a viable vote for you?

[Marmot]

What MM fails to account for in his case on sloonei is the extent to which sloonei already town read or trusted ika vs frog. If I came on asking people who I should vote for and a person I didn't have any reason to trust gave me one answer and a person I'm reading as town gave me another, I know I'd dismiss one and focus on the other.

I fail to see how Frog being Sloonei's top suspect only a few hours beforehand supports this statement.

A lot can change in a few hours regarding reads, you know this just as well as I do.

Ok, but wert Sloonei, there was no change of opinion during that time.

People are taking what Golden said here as fact when he admitted that he was making an inaccurate statement to poke at my case.

[Golden]

i am disappointed that everyone says "OH WE ARE LSITENING" but doesnt seem to actauly take it intoconsidera tion

Me too ika. Me too.

[Silverwolf]

I'm leaving in 10 minutes. I feel like I'm losing my fight this game.

I really don't care who we lynch today because my strong townreads are not under consideration.

ika isn't saying much and this has me very concerned

IAWY-MP's points are a very superficial and amount to playstyle and I have him back at null

sig isn't making me feel good either

That's all I have.

silver if you had to name the sucm team right now who would it be? that and 2 outsider incase the 4 are wrong?

if they killyou n1 img onna agrro the thread

I don't know, it keeps changing.

Golden, MP are in the top running.

Maybe the low posters for the other two-like two of soneji, psit-whoever that is with 2 posts, IAWY, and there's an outside chance of metalmarsh-not agreeing with his sloonei case, and maybe sig but that's gut. I also hope Epi can post enough content because LC was a huge null read.

I also am worried about you ika. I want more from you. You are not giving your attention to this game at all.

[Marmot]

And if possible, Jay could you remind Long Con to move his vote?

I know you'll consider it in the final tally, but it'll be easier for the rest of us to remember.

[ika]

i am disappointed that everyone says "OH WE ARE LSITENING" but doesnt seem to actauly take it intoconsidera tion

Me too ika. Me too.

golden want to take a bet? if your lynch flips town you help my lynch MP (or a person of my choise) tommorow, if yours is right i will help you lynchaone of your choosing

deal?

i also extned this to anoyne who wants to take m up on a bet

[Sloonei]

Frog is still my top suspect, but I'm taking that with more than just one grain of salt because I still habe not read anything extensively past the first couple hours of the game and I probably won't be able to get cauht up ever. Again, I apologize. You can lynch me if you all think that's the best thing to do, but i'm not bad and you should just wait for my replacement instead.

I'm moving my vote back to Frog because I might as well vote on my own terms.

Massive linki. @ zebra, thanks and yeah, everything i've posted since last night has been exhaustion-fueled. Not exhausted from this game, but exhausted from real life. I'm workig every day this week as well as the last three days in a row now and I have various other RL commitments to deal with. I simpy don't have the time or energy needed to play this game right now.

STOP POSTING FOR A SECOND WILL YOU?