Mafia Championship Scrimmage [END]

[sig]

I really dislike Soneji's two posts. He came in seemed to make some so he wouldn't be lurking and voted Frog. I think he voted on weak reasoning and jjust wanted to throw out a vote which really wouldn't create any waves and avoided all the major wagons.

[sig]

So how about a counterwagon onto Soneji? Now that he has made a less then inspiring entrance.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

The Day 1 deadline is in 1 hour and 38 minutes at precisely 10:00 PM Eastern US/Canada time.

I will accept votes at 10:00 but not at 10:01. All votes must be cast in the thread and in the poll. Please try to capitalize all votes AND use the large font size.

[Dyslexicon]

Wait, sig scum read Zebra. I was not prepared for this. *has a flail*

[Marmot]

VOTE INAWORDYES

I will vote for him to save myself anyway, so I'm going ahead and doing it now for those who didn't realize it would happen.

[sig]

Hey everyone please look over Soneji's posts and tell me what you think. I don't like them at all, and I don't like his vote. Or the fact he hasn't posted again.

[sig]

Wait, sig scum read Zebra. I was not prepared for this. *has a flail*

Why?

[Marmot]

So how about a counterwagon onto Soneji? Now that he has made a less then inspiring entrance.

Why?

You hate CFD's why should we lynch Soneji at this moment?

Linki: why don't you like them?

[Dyslexicon]

I really dislike Soneji's two posts. He came in seemed to make some so he wouldn't be lurking and voted Frog. I think he voted on weak reasoning and jjust wanted to throw out a vote which really wouldn't create any waves and avoided all the major wagons.

Maybe I like you. Maybe I like this. Now I feel more like myself at every end of day 1.

[Marco]

After some thought, I'm going with MetalMarsh. It feels like he has stopped engaging once the IAWY wagon overtook him.

VOTE METALMARSH89

You have very difficult standards of engagement and/or timing to meet.

I made a case. I got a pat on the back from Golden, MP, and zebra with a "Good job, that's much better" and people moved off to other things.

I still want to lynch Sloonei today. He falls into that category of lurkers/low-participants, even if he doesn't want to. I don't think anyone else has been ready to acknowledge that either.

I don't think it's all that difficult. You were away for a majority of the day and were not indicating you'll be around for EOD. And then you didn't respond to my post and looked like disappeared after IAWY wagon overtook you.

My point is that I disappear for an hour to do other things, and come back to find I'm being accused of "having stopped engaging".

I feel that my "engagements" have been overlooked anyway. You yourself haven't commented on them, but only the after-the-fact behavior.

I wasn't wrong. You had stopped engaging. And you never responded to my post before you went away. Either way, I don't see how expecting you to be available at EOD is a difficult standard. Anyway, you're here now.

I don't think I overlooked your engagement. I already pointed out why I found your behavior scummy. As for your primary contribution this phase: I, personally, don't have a conclusive read on Sloonei, and your case wasn't convincing to me. In fact, I felt that your focus on finding an alternative lynch was not a very townie reaction. Everyone has different meta, of course, but I would have expected you to focus a little more on why the lynch on you is wrong.

[Dyslexicon]

Wait, sig scum read Zebra. I was not prepared for this. *has a flail*

Why?

I was having you two as a semi likely team, but I didn't remember you had her as top scum read with vote and all. I've been meaning to ISO you for the longest time, but I haven't, just checked the vote thing.

[sig]

So how about a counterwagon onto Soneji? Now that he has made a less then inspiring entrance.

Why?

You hate CFD's why should we lynch Soneji at this moment?

Linki: why don't you like them?

I do hate CFD's yes however, I'm fighting agaisnt a CFD which I believe is being used to save a baddie teammate. I know I"m not mafia so this is a slightly better CFD.


It seemed like he made some posts to appear and not be lurking, yet really didn't say anything that much. I also really disliked his vote and the fact he hasn't posted again since appearing or mention any of the big wagons and things going on.

[Marco]

Hey everyone please look over Soneji's posts and tell me what you think. I don't like them at all, and I don't like his vote. Or the fact he hasn't posted again.

It's very characteristic of him. He'll generally make very few posts Day 1 with some things that pique his interest. Also, he looks to be still catching up and early in the thread, which explains the vote to me. I would be interested if he would still keep his vote on Frog after catching up completely.

[Dyslexicon]

I really just want to lynch Zebra. In case anyone wondered.

[Frog]

For now

Vote: Metalmarshmellow89

This vote is weak.

Why is it weak? What vote is strong in your opinion and why?

I would think any non voter is weak IMO. Where there exists no pressure on slankers, we're screwing up.

I believe you to be villager (either derp or lynch baiting me, w/e)

USERNAME POSTS
Golden 53
Marco 43
Sloonei 41
Frog 34
Dyslexicon 27
Silverwolf 25
sig 20
Zexy 20
JaggedJimmyJay 14
MovingPictures07 13
ika 11
Long Con 11
Inawordyes 10
DrWilgy 4
Metalmarsh89 4
a2thezebra 3
Psittaciform 2

Straight up, this is how I see today.

I'm pretty much only going to be voting for Dr Wigly, Metalmarsh, a2thezebra, or Psittaciform

[I was trying to lynch bait Zexy earlier, pretty sure Zexy randed Town, just wanted to see who would hop on that opening.]

My vote on Metalmarsh has to do with a complete non-game solvey style.

In case you actually need references to his quotes, tell me how right I am and then vote with me.
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/search ... 8&sr=posts

So you go from strong pressuring of people for actual potential scum tells to...being determined to lynch inactives? When there was almost two days left in the phase when this was posted?

VOTE FROG

However- going to have to agree with you. Ore flip associations are usually lol. But let the ENTP in me lay out all of the tinfoils anyway!!!

You're ENTP? You should join PersonalityCafe lol \o/

I should maybe try playing there. If the people there have a deeper understanding of my mindset then they're potentially less likely to misjudge me as can be the case on my home site. INTP myself, though I got INTJ until recently.

SLOONEJI STRIKES AGAIN!

I can't say I'm not tempted to join every game Sloonei does to further the legend of Slooneji.

/derp

[Marmot]

I wasn't wrong. You had stopped engaging. And you never responded to my post before you went away. Either way, I don't see how expecting you to be available at EOD is a difficult standard. Anyway, you're here now.

I don't think I overlooked your engagement. I already pointed out why I found your behavior scummy. As for your primary contribution this phase: I, personally, don't have a conclusive read on Sloonei, and your case wasn't convincing to me. In fact, I felt that your focus on finding an alternative lynch was not a very townie reaction. Everyone has different meta, of course, but I would have expected you to focus a little more on why the lynch on you is wrong.

It didn't occur to me that I might actually be lynched until 20 minutes ago or so. But on the other hand, I don't like to act rashly (though I admit I do sometimes anyway), so if I don't seem "urgent" to you, that would be why.

But I am disappointed in the situation, yes.

[Soneji]

I really dislike Soneji's two posts. He came in seemed to make some so he wouldn't be lurking and voted Frog. I think he voted on weak reasoning and jjust wanted to throw out a vote which really wouldn't create any waves and avoided all the major wagons.

So how about a counterwagon onto Soneji? Now that he has made a less then inspiring entrance.

Hey everyone please look over Soneji's posts and tell me what you think. I don't like them at all, and I don't like his vote. Or the fact he hasn't posted again.

If you're mafia then this is one of the most pathetically desperate attempts at a counterwagon I've ever seen. I am reading through the thread, giving my reads in my customary manner. You could at least try to point out what is flawed in my reasoning, why those flaws make me scummy and what is weak about my Frog vote.

You're really impatient and blatantly ignoring the fact that I'm going through the thread(which should be obvious). You're ready to piss your pants with how excited you are at creating a CFD.

[Epignosis]

Based on the most recent exchange and without 35 pages of context, I would say one of Soneji and sig are bad.

[Soneji]

For now

Vote: Metalmarshmellow89

This vote is weak.

Why is it weak? What vote is strong in your opinion and why?

I would think any non voter is weak IMO. Where there exists no pressure on slankers, we're screwing up.

I believe you to be villager (either derp or lynch baiting me, w/e)

USERNAME POSTS
Golden 53
Marco 43
Sloonei 41
Frog 34
Dyslexicon 27
Silverwolf 25
sig 20
Zexy 20
JaggedJimmyJay 14
MovingPictures07 13
ika 11
Long Con 11
Inawordyes 10
DrWilgy 4
Metalmarsh89 4
a2thezebra 3
Psittaciform 2

Straight up, this is how I see today.

I'm pretty much only going to be voting for Dr Wigly, Metalmarsh, a2thezebra, or Psittaciform

[I was trying to lynch bait Zexy earlier, pretty sure Zexy randed Town, just wanted to see who would hop on that opening.]

My vote on Metalmarsh has to do with a complete non-game solvey style.

In case you actually need references to his quotes, tell me how right I am and then vote with me.
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/search ... 8&sr=posts

So you go from strong pressuring of people for actual potential scum tells to...being determined to lynch inactives? When there was almost two days left in the phase when this was posted?

VOTE FROG

However- going to have to agree with you. Ore flip associations are usually lol. But let the ENTP in me lay out all of the tinfoils anyway!!!

You're ENTP? You should join PersonalityCafe lol \o/

I should maybe try playing there. If the people there have a deeper understanding of my mindset then they're potentially less likely to misjudge me as can be the case on my home site. INTP myself, though I got INTJ until recently.

SLOONEJI STRIKES AGAIN!

I can't say I'm not tempted to join every game Sloonei does to further the legend of Slooneji.

/derp

Being condescending doesn't make you good. We truly do have the Absolute Justice of this game, before he calmed down and stopped being a toxic presence regardless of his alignment.

[Marmot]

So how about a counterwagon onto Soneji? Now that he has made a less then inspiring entrance.

Why?

You hate CFD's why should we lynch Soneji at this moment?

Linki: why don't you like them?

I do hate CFD's yes however, I'm fighting agaisnt a CFD which I believe is being used to save a baddie teammate. I know I"m not mafia so this is a slightly better CFD.


It seemed like he made some posts to appear and not be lurking, yet really didn't say anything that much. I also really disliked his vote and the fact he hasn't posted again since appearing or mention any of the big wagons and things going on.

Objectively, he's at least branched out more than I have. :P

[Marco]

I wasn't wrong. You had stopped engaging. And you never responded to my post before you went away. Either way, I don't see how expecting you to be available at EOD is a difficult standard. Anyway, you're here now.

I don't think I overlooked your engagement. I already pointed out why I found your behavior scummy. As for your primary contribution this phase: I, personally, don't have a conclusive read on Sloonei, and your case wasn't convincing to me. In fact, I felt that your focus on finding an alternative lynch was not a very townie reaction. Everyone has different meta, of course, but I would have expected you to focus a little more on why the lynch on you is wrong.

It didn't occur to me that I might actually be lynched until 20 minutes ago or so. But on the other hand, I don't like to act rashly (though I admit I do sometimes anyway), so if I don't seem "urgent" to you, that would be why.

But I am disappointed in the situation, yes.

How come? You and MP were leading in votes. And then you tried to get a wagon started on Sloonei? Did that have nothing to do with the wagon on you?

[Epignosis]

I also noticed in my pop ins that ika and Silverwolf have followed each other all over the board in votes. Is that a correct assessment?

[Soneji]

So how about a counterwagon onto Soneji? Now that he has made a less then inspiring entrance.

Why?

You hate CFD's why should we lynch Soneji at this moment?

Linki: why don't you like them?

I do hate CFD's yes however, I'm fighting agaisnt a CFD which I believe is being used to save a baddie teammate. I know I"m not mafia so this is a slightly better CFD.


It seemed like he made some posts to appear and not be lurking, yet really didn't say anything that much. I also really disliked his vote and the fact he hasn't posted again since appearing or mention any of the big wagons and things going on.

In regards to avoiding major wagons, you mean the sole two that have more than a couple votes? Why should I exactly care to be voting for either, rather than the person I personally suspect the most at this moment?

[Marco]

So how about a counterwagon onto Soneji? Now that he has made a less then inspiring entrance.

Why?

You hate CFD's why should we lynch Soneji at this moment?

Linki: why don't you like them?

I do hate CFD's yes however, I'm fighting agaisnt a CFD which I believe is being used to save a baddie teammate. I know I"m not mafia so this is a slightly better CFD.


It seemed like he made some posts to appear and not be lurking, yet really didn't say anything that much. I also really disliked his vote and the fact he hasn't posted again since appearing or mention any of the big wagons and things going on.

In regards to avoiding major wagons, you mean the sole two that have more than a couple votes? Why should I exactly care to be voting for either, rather than the person I personally suspect the most at this moment?

In my opinion, you can make your suspicions well known without needing to waste your vote. Even though you might not have a strong feeling towards any of the major wagons, at least voting among them gives you some agency over town's greatest weapon, the lynch, and also helps the rest of the people in reading you.

[Marco]

Can someone tell me how much time we have exactly?

[Marmot]

I wasn't wrong. You had stopped engaging. And you never responded to my post before you went away. Either way, I don't see how expecting you to be available at EOD is a difficult standard. Anyway, you're here now.

I don't think I overlooked your engagement. I already pointed out why I found your behavior scummy. As for your primary contribution this phase: I, personally, don't have a conclusive read on Sloonei, and your case wasn't convincing to me. In fact, I felt that your focus on finding an alternative lynch was not a very townie reaction. Everyone has different meta, of course, but I would have expected you to focus a little more on why the lynch on you is wrong.

It didn't occur to me that I might actually be lynched until 20 minutes ago or so. But on the other hand, I don't like to act rashly (though I admit I do sometimes anyway), so if I don't seem "urgent" to you, that would be why.

But I am disappointed in the situation, yes.

How come? You and MP were leading in votes. And then you tried to get a wagon started on Sloonei? Did that have nothing to do with the wagon on you?

I'm not really sure to be honest. But from the general feel I had of the game at the time, the table was still wide open. MP had several votes, but he still had people defending him (namely zebra), and he put the time into ISOing players to dispel that suspicion (I'm still waiting to hear where those votes went). I also had a few votes, but the votes were for acclaimed placeholder votes until I was able to participate. It felt like pressure, which did dissipate.

I couldn't tell you why the votes came back though. I'm at a loss there.

Linki: We have about 1 hour and 20 minutes.

[Sloonei]

I have 80 minutes to play some mafia. I'm not reading the thread, but somebody tell me what's going on and why I should vote for people.

[Marmot]

I have 80 minutes to play some mafia. I'm not reading the thread, but somebody tell me what's going on and why I should vote for people.

You're my top scumread, but don't vote for me please.

[ika]

I have 80 minutes to play some mafia. I'm not reading the thread, but somebody tell me what's going on and why I should vote for people.

vote Inawordyes then sloonie

[Sloonei]

When I was leaving a couple hours ago I noticed that Metalmarsh had started up a case against me, and that this coincided with him being a leader in the poll. Where are we on this?

[Frog]

I have 80 minutes to play some mafia. I'm not reading the thread, but somebody tell me what's going on and why I should vote for people.

for the lols

[Sloonei]

I have 80 minutes to play some mafia. I'm not reading the thread, but somebody tell me what's going on and why I should vote for people.

You're my top scumread, but don't vote for me please.

Why and why not?

[Sloonei]

I have 80 minutes to play some mafia. I'm not reading the thread, but somebody tell me what's going on and why I should vote for people.

for the lols

VOTE FROG LOL

[Soneji]

So how about a counterwagon onto Soneji? Now that he has made a less then inspiring entrance.

Why?

You hate CFD's why should we lynch Soneji at this moment?

Linki: why don't you like them?

I do hate CFD's yes however, I'm fighting agaisnt a CFD which I believe is being used to save a baddie teammate. I know I"m not mafia so this is a slightly better CFD.


It seemed like he made some posts to appear and not be lurking, yet really didn't say anything that much. I also really disliked his vote and the fact he hasn't posted again since appearing or mention any of the big wagons and things going on.

In regards to avoiding major wagons, you mean the sole two that have more than a couple votes? Why should I exactly care to be voting for either, rather than the person I personally suspect the most at this moment?

In my opinion, you can make your suspicions well known without needing to waste your vote. Even though you might not have a strong feeling towards any of the major wagons, at least voting among them gives you some agency over town's greatest weapon, the lynch, and also helps the rest of the people in reading you.

Yet, considering the time left, my lynch choice was and is still able to garner enough votes to be the actual person lynched. I have still yet to get to where the MM suspicion starts, might just ISO him if I don't get there in time. IAWY I have already been pinged by so in the case of choosing between the two as of now, it would be him.

[Marmot]

I have 80 minutes to play some mafia. I'm not reading the thread, but somebody tell me what's going on and why I should vote for people.

You're my top scumread, but don't vote for me please.

Why and why not?

Because I'm a civilian, and I can dance for you.

[Dyslexicon]

I have 80 minutes to play some mafia. I'm not reading the thread, but somebody tell me what's going on and why I should vote for people.

You should vote for Zebra. Sheep me, please. <3

The why is in my ISO.

[Frog]

I have 80 minutes to play some mafia. I'm not reading the thread, but somebody tell me what's going on and why I should vote for people.

for the lols

VOTE FROG LOL

loooool

[Sloonei]

Whoa, how did I actually manage to double vote for Frog?

[Marmot]

Frog, how do you like these OMGUS votes? :P

[Silverwolf]

So how about a counterwagon onto Soneji? Now that he has made a less then inspiring entrance.

Why would you want to start a cw? Is IAWY that strong town to you? And why not give Sonjei time to catch up?

[Epignosis]

I also noticed in my pop ins that ika and Silverwolf have followed each other all over the board in votes. Is that a correct assessment?

[Marmot]

Whoa, how did I actually manage to double vote for Frog?

Slooneji strikes again!

[Frog]

I have 80 minutes to play some mafia. I'm not reading the thread, but somebody tell me what's going on and why I should vote for people.

You're my top scumread, but don't vote for me please.

Why and why not?

Because I'm a civilian, and I can dance for you.

lynch this. there are no "civilian"

[Dyslexicon]

Also, what do we get out of lynching INAWORD? If he's scum, then yay, we get scum so that's good. But if he's town we don't really get anything.

Don't really think MM is scum (haven't read all his posts though).

[Marmot]

I also noticed in my pop ins that ika and Silverwolf have followed each other all over the board in votes. Is that a correct assessment?

I have no idea, but that wouldn't surprise me either.

What do you think about this if it is true?

[Dyslexicon]

lynch this. there are no "civilian"

That's what they call themselves here. A bunch of people have said it, or called it civ.

Vote Zebra
- Kisses

[Marmot]

I have 80 minutes to play some mafia. I'm not reading the thread, but somebody tell me what's going on and why I should vote for people.

You're my top scumread, but don't vote for me please.

Why and why not?

Because I'm a civilian, and I can dance for you.

lynch this. there are no "civilian"

You're right, I'm actually a marmot!

[Epignosis]

I also noticed in my pop ins that ika and Silverwolf have followed each other all over the board in votes. Is that a correct assessment?

I have no idea, but that wouldn't surprise me either.

What do you think about this if it is true?

Nothing yet. I don't want Silverwolf to all caps my ass.

[Sloonei]

I have 80 minutes to play some mafia. I'm not reading the thread, but somebody tell me what's going on and why I should vote for people.

You're my top scumread, but don't vote for me please.

Why and why not?

Because I'm a civilian, and I can dance for you.

Why am I your top scum read?

[ika]

Also, what do we get out of lynching INAWORD? If he's scum, then yay, we get scum so that's good. But if he's town we don't really get anything.

Don't really think MM is scum (haven't read all his posts though).

we remove someone whos doing jack shit in a game

i will 100% persue someone not posting then someone posting.

jsut join us plz we can do zebra tommorw