Downton Abbey Mafia (ENDGAME)

#1101

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Regarding LoRab.

I like the points that Epignosis brings up on LoRab. She hasn't pursued her suspicions, nor has she mentioned many of them. My question for you Epignosis, what are you attempting to remedy through this case, per the first line?

See the last line. I want Lorab to state her suspicions and explain why she holds them.

#1102

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:RNUJQJELXZZRMMTDWCVNCGMGYZ
RXSCRQHUCYHKZMKFSKFHKQCLCPALCNKQNBDKMTKWNFGRBXHEXJDYTOZIILDC
RTCDYPEZZGUSDSINWGWXRAYA
He posted this about an hour ago, and the link I put in that post you have quoted is from Day 2.

Oh, then I didn't catch it. Was he insanifyed?

#1103

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#1104

I thought those might be ciphers, but none of the 26 standard keys work.

#1105

Yesterday DF almost died. Today he has no votes.

Nero, sig - Do you no longer find DF suss?

Also, Nero - Can't really put my finger on it wrt Illy. I felt she was asking too many questions in thread about stuff like the OT button.

I also think if one of Lorab/ika are bad, then we should check out the other.

Not currently voting for her, but I'm not opposed, at all, to a Daisy lynch.

#1106

Matt wrote:Yesterday DF almost died. Today he has no votes.

Nero, sig - Do you no longer find DF suss?

Also, Nero - Can't really put my finger on it wrt Illy. I felt she was asking too many questions in thread about stuff like the OT button.

I also think if one of Lorab/ika are bad, then we should check out the other.

Not currently voting for her, but I'm not opposed, at all, to a Daisy lynch.

I do, but there is no momentum against him and nobody else seems to agree.

#1107

Voting Lorab because I think Epi makes a good case on her and I don't really agree with the Daisy reasoning.

#1108

I don't want to touch either of these wagons, I think both are civs. If I do have to break the tie I'd vote for Lorab, I think Daisy is more civvie and Epi's case is slightly better then what I've seen against Daisy. I also dislike some of the people on her wagon. Scotty and Ika have both pinged me.

I'd like to talk about Black rock's vote it was really weird, she voted for Sorsha without any real reasoning behind it. It seems like a mafia vote.

#1109

I don't mind the support for my choice, but the suddenness of it and lack of independent reasoning regarding it is a shameful display.

#1110

Matt wrote:Yesterday DF almost died. Today he has no votes.

Nero, sig - Do you no longer find DF suss?

Also, Nero - Can't really put my finger on it wrt Illy. I felt she was asking too many questions in thread about stuff like the OT button.

I also think if one of Lorab/ika are bad, then we should check out the other.

Not currently voting for her, but I'm not opposed, at all, to a Daisy lynch.

To be fair, most of the votes on me yesterday had virtually no reasoning behind them. The same thing happened to Dom on Day 1, he took a few weak votes and then everyone forgot about wanting to lynch him. Not sure why this is happening, but it is.

sig wrote:
Matt wrote:Yesterday DF almost died. Today he has no votes.

Nero, sig - Do you no longer find DF suss?

Also, Nero - Can't really put my finger on it wrt Illy. I felt she was asking too many questions in thread about stuff like the OT button.

I also think if one of Lorab/ika are bad, then we should check out the other.

Not currently voting for her, but I'm not opposed, at all, to a Daisy lynch.
I do, but there is no momentum against him and nobody else seems to agree.

Do you have a reason besides gut feeling?

Linki: I agree that BR's Sorsha vote was really random. Maybe she was blackmailed?

#1111

Epignosis wrote:I don't mind the support for my choice, but the suddenness of it and lack of independent reasoning regarding it is a shameful display.

Fyi, I suspected Lorab during my catch up before you made your case yesterday or whatever.

Wanna join me on a surprise attack against Illy?

#1112

Matt wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I don't mind the support for my choice, but the suddenness of it and lack of independent reasoning regarding it is a shameful display.
Fyi, I suspected Lorab during my catch up before you made your case yesterday or whatever.

Wanna join me on a surprise attack against Illy?

No.

#1113

I believe Spacedaisy is civilian. I'll try and explain why once I get back to work.

#1114

Rejection. Still better to ask then to never know.

#1115

Matt wrote:Rejection. Still better to ask then to never know.

You didn't have to ask.

#1116

Epignosis wrote:I don't mind the support for my choice, but the suddenness of it and lack of independent reasoning regarding it is a shameful display.

There's not much point in making a case if you want everyone else to remain unconvinced and make their own independent cases.

Anyway, I thought your points were compelling so I looked over Lorab, and it is suspicious to me that her only suspicion was more of a policy vote than real suspicion, and furthermore, I think there could be something to the fact that I took a ton of votes for saying I didn't think Dom was bad while Lorab did not. That point could apply to BR as well, actually.

The above, combined with the fact that I don't think Daisy is bad makes Lorab my top choice.

#1117

DFaraday wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I don't mind the support for my choice, but the suddenness of it and lack of independent reasoning regarding it is a shameful display.
There's not much point in making a case if you want everyone else to remain unconvinced and make their own independent cases.

Anyway, I thought your points were compelling so I looked over Lorab, and it is suspicious to me that her only suspicion was more of a policy vote than real suspicion, and furthermore, I think there could be something to the fact that I took a ton of votes for saying I didn't think Dom was bad while Lorab did not. That point could apply to BR as well, actually.

The above, combined with the fact that I don't think Daisy is bad makes Lorab my top choice.

The fact that two confirmed civilians suspected you and are both dead does not make me feel especially comfortable about you coming on board.

#1118

What are you folks opinion of thellama73 and DFaraday?

#1119

Epignosis wrote:
DFaraday wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I don't mind the support for my choice, but the suddenness of it and lack of independent reasoning regarding it is a shameful display.
There's not much point in making a case if you want everyone else to remain unconvinced and make their own independent cases.

Anyway, I thought your points were compelling so I looked over Lorab, and it is suspicious to me that her only suspicion was more of a policy vote than real suspicion, and furthermore, I think there could be something to the fact that I took a ton of votes for saying I didn't think Dom was bad while Lorab did not. That point could apply to BR as well, actually.

The above, combined with the fact that I don't think Daisy is bad makes Lorab my top choice.
The fact that two confirmed civilians suspected you and are both dead does not make me feel especially comfortable about you coming on board.

Fair enough.

#1120

Polo wrote:What are you folks opinion of thellama73 and DFaraday?

Probably civvie but misguided, and strongly civvie.

#1121

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#1122

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JBIZVLKOFZQVUZIVXGMU
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#1123

Nerolunar wrote:Illyria who are you voting for?

Not sure, I would like to wait for Lorab to defend before I make a call. One of the reasons I am considering her is because she has been quiet. She explained her playstyle is different now and no one who has known her as long as I have disagreed. Now there is a bit of a bandwagon, with Epis post-- which worries me that my gut has been wrong about her.

One of my worries is that I am missing something obvious. Such as the people who are waiting in the wings in my opinion Sorcha, you Nero, and MM are the three that come to mind.

I am going to wait to vote as I tend to do.

Linki: Hmm. I didn't understand the DF lynch train on Day one, and wasn't convinced on Day Two. EpI makes a fair point about two people dying that suspected him but it is not enough to make me put a vote there yet.

Llama. I can go either way on him. I should get home w abt 45 minutes before I have to head to the Bobbins' house.so I want to look at Llama in ISO as it is now called.

#1124

Matt wrote:Yesterday DF almost died. Today he has no votes.

Nero, sig - Do you no longer find DF suss?

Also, Nero - Can't really put my finger on it wrt Illy. I felt she was asking too many questions in thread about stuff like the OT button.

I also think if one of Lorab/ika are bad, then we should check out the other.

Not currently voting for her, but I'm not opposed, at all, to a Daisy lynch.

He is back to a null for me.

Someone break the tie. It grinds my gears when democratic principles are neglected like this

Fuck the tiebreaker, go for a majority vote please. Its bad policy to let ONE player decide, and not the majority.

#1125

Nerolunar wrote:
Matt wrote:Yesterday DF almost died. Today he has no votes.

Nero, sig - Do you no longer find DF suss?

Also, Nero - Can't really put my finger on it wrt Illy. I felt she was asking too many questions in thread about stuff like the OT button.

I also think if one of Lorab/ika are bad, then we should check out the other.

Not currently voting for her, but I'm not opposed, at all, to a Daisy lynch.
He is back to a null for me.

Someone break the tie. It grinds my gears when democratic principles are neglected like this Fuck the tiebreaker, go for a majority vote please. Its bad policy to let ONE player decide, and not the majority.

How is it preferable to have someone of either alignment break a tie rather than a confirmed civilian?

#1126

Ill vote Lorab to save myself if I have to, but my only concern with Lorab is I know she has been very busy and I'm not sure that the things she is suspected of might not just be explained by being busy/traveling.

Right now I find Wilgy more suspicious. I have yet to see a legit insanfier that has you just typing in all caps lock gibberish. I suspect this to be faked. But he wouldn't be able to defend against this accusation if I am wrong. Meh...

#1127

Spacedaisy wrote:Ill vote Lorab to save myself if I have to, but my only concern with Lorab is I know she has been very busy and I'm not sure that the things she is suspected of might not just be explained by being busy/traveling.

Right now I find Wilgy more suspicious. I have yet to see a legit insanfier that has you just typing in all caps lock gibberish. I suspect this to be faked. But he wouldn't be able to defend against this accusation if I am wrong. Meh...

Even if Wilgy really is Lady Rose's victim, Lady Rose is a civilian, and so the post inhibition is coming from a civilian place. The same applies to Mrs. Patmore's silencing.

#1128

Spacedaisy wrote:Ill vote Lorab to save myself if I have to, but my only concern with Lorab is I know she has been very busy and I'm not sure that the things she is suspected of might not just be explained by being busy/traveling.

Right now I find Wilgy more suspicious. I have yet to see a legit insanfier that has you just typing in all caps lock gibberish. I suspect this to be faked. But he wouldn't be able to defend against this accusation if I am wrong. Meh...

I also suspect Wilgy's insanification to be fake, but considering it's Wilgy, I don't think that's an alignment indicator haha.

#1129

I would prefer it to be more than one person.

Don´t you agree with my policy? We can discuss it if you want.

#1130

Nerolunar wrote:I would prefer it to be more than one person.

Don´t you agree with my policy? We can discuss it if you want.

You said "someone."

But very well. How is it preferable for more than one unknown person to break the tie as opposed to one confirmed civilian?

#1131

Epignosis wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:Ill vote Lorab to save myself if I have to, but my only concern with Lorab is I know she has been very busy and I'm not sure that the things she is suspected of might not just be explained by being busy/traveling.

Right now I find Wilgy more suspicious. I have yet to see a legit insanfier that has you just typing in all caps lock gibberish. I suspect this to be faked. But he wouldn't be able to defend against this accusation if I am wrong. Meh...
Even if Wilgy really is Lady Rose's victim, Lady Rose is a civilian, and so the post inhibition is coming from a civilian place. The same applies to Mrs. Patmore's silencing.

Yes but my point was my suspicion of Wilgy is that I believe he is faking. Why would anyone insanify someone who was already posting like a crazy person? And while I know Wilgy is pretty crazy, it can only buy you so long before you've got to give us more than that. Faking an insanify when you start coming under suspicion looks bad if you ask me.

#1132

Epignosis wrote:
Nerolunar wrote:I would prefer it to be more than one person.

Don´t you agree with my policy? We can discuss it if you want.
You said "someone."

But very well. How is it preferable for more than one unknown person to break the tie as opposed to one confirmed civilian?

Because there are only 3 baddies and lots of civilians. If the lead on a lynch is significant enough the 3 baddies shouldn´t be a problem.

What word should I have used instead? I thought "someone" could both be singular and plural

Do you prefer ties? If so, why?

#1133

Spacedaisy wrote:I'm done talking, you all have already decided. I would just ask that when I am lynched and flip civ, please lynch llama next, so that he is the victim of his own faulty logic as well. He did after all, vote to lynch bubbles and then turn around and wanted to lynch me for her lynch. Takes zero responsibility for his own actions and lynches me because he claims I am protecting DF from lynch, despite the fact he has no idea what DF's role is. That is the basis of this freaking lynch, it's the stupidest case against me I have ever seen and if llama and Dom and ika are not bad, they are going to be eating a ton of crow when this lynch is over.

My logic isn't faulty. You just disagree with my premises. You've never demonstrated one flaw in my logic.

#1134

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:To those of you voting or thinking about voting spacedaisy:

What happens if she gets lynched and is a civilian? Where do you look then?

What happens if she gets lynched and is mafia? Where do you look then?
If Spacedaisy is civ, then I think it would be the same as lynching any participating civilian. We'll put our heads down and try again tomorrow without much to go off.

In my experience with Spacedaisy as mafia, she is more likely to distance from a mafia partner than to defend them. If Spacedaisy is mafia, then Matt would be worth looking at, and DF would be less likely to be mafia.

I agree with this. Part of my case hinges on Daisy knowing DF is civ, so if she is mafia, I will not consider DF a danger.

#1135

Spacedaisy wrote:No, I don't think llama is bad. But I still would like to see you all lynch him when I flip civ. Vindictive of me isn't it? I want him to deal with what I've had to deal with. I'm also not saying I believe he is good. He is the person I feel the least confident about, but I still think he is probably civ.

I don't want to lynch llama if I am not being lynched. But if I get lynched because of his case against me then I want him to be lynched as well, it is purely spiteful vindictiveness. I want him to have to argue against a silly case.

If you are asking the good little civ in me, then I don't recommend it. My vote on him just makes me feel better. I'll likely move it later to try and save myself. I'm just not leaving it on Scotty.

Trust me, I've had to deal with it in, many, many games.

#1136

Llama I have demonstrated it multiple times. You sir are blind to the truth.

#1137

Spacedaisy wrote:Llama I have demonstrated it multiple times. You sir are blind to the truth.

Blind like a fox.

#1138

Spacedaisy wrote:Ill vote Lorab to save myself if I have to, but my only concern with Lorab is I know she has been very busy and I'm not sure that the things she is suspected of might not just be explained by being busy/traveling.

Right now I find Wilgy more suspicious. I have yet to see a legit insanfier that has you just typing in all caps lock gibberish. I suspect this to be faked. But he wouldn't be able to defend against this accusation if I am wrong. Meh...

Well, no one else appears to be insanified, so

I'm voting Lorab, because ties (or lack thereof).

#1139

LoRab needs to get back in here and throw any sort of defense together or she is toast.
Meanwhile, I think there is a lot of info to go on here if Daisy is bad, which I'm thinking more and more might be the case.
If she is good, then...fuck sticks.

#1140

Scotty wrote:LoRab needs to get back in here and throw any sort of defense together or she is toast.
Meanwhile, I think there is a lot of info to go on here if Daisy is bad, which I'm thinking more and more might be the case.
If she is good, then...fuck sticks.

My point was that Lorab has done little else but defend herself. That's my main issue- no accusations from her beyond what would be passable on a Day 1, and it's Day 3.

#1141

Wilgy may be bluffing to get Cora Crawley to waste her power on him.

I find it strange to see that nobody is silenced today.

#1142

Polo wrote:Wilgy may be bluffing to get Cora Crawley to waste her power on him.

How would that work?

#1143

Epignosis wrote:
Polo wrote:Wilgy may be bluffing to get Cora Crawley to waste her power on him.
How would that work?

Elohcin would confirm whether it's true or false behaviour.

Elohcin, hear our cries. Is that possible?

#1144

Epignosis wrote:
Polo wrote:Wilgy may be bluffing to get Cora Crawley to waste her power on him.
Oh, easy! She just checks this line:
How would that work?

DrWilgy wrote:MBCRJC
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JBIZVLKOFZQVUZIVXGMU
UVIIOJDUHFIVNZTVWTINJSKGFIILDPXTNIZJQWZDKADRZYQHLQOZPMYDPNIYQN

And determines whether or not Wilgy is lieing!

#1145

Scotty...

#1146

Polo wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Polo wrote:Wilgy may be bluffing to get Cora Crawley to waste her power on him.
How would that work?
Elohcin would confirm whether it's true or false behaviour.

Elohcin, hear our cries. Is that possible?

Cora is a typical mother in that she always finds out the truth. She is able to select a line from the thread each night to determine if it is a lie.
I'm not sure you can lie detect DSFJGNFDIJVNDSFOKMVKDFNVKHDFBJNDFSVLJDNVJNDFKJSVNDJNVDJKNJDNJDSNDLSJKN.

#1147

And by the way...less than two hours to vote!

#1148

daisy or dfar are my votes

and daisy should know im willing to take on bets

#1149

Elohcin wrote:
Polo wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Polo wrote:Wilgy may be bluffing to get Cora Crawley to waste her power on him.
How would that work?
Elohcin would confirm whether it's true or false behaviour.

Elohcin, hear our cries. Is that possible?
Cora is a typical mother in that she always finds out the truth. She is able to select a line from the thread each night to determine if it is a lie.
I'm not sure you can lie detect DSFJGNFDIJVNDSFOKMVKDFNVKHDFBJNDFSVLJDNVJNDFKJSVNDJNVDJKNJDNJDSNDLSJKN.

Huh. Sorry for my hermeneutical acrobacy. It's the lawyers curse.

#1150

Lorab voted DrWilgy the first Day and according to her, she was still suspicious of him (though she did not elaborate further or push the suspicion).

So...

In 22 ghostly posts DrWilgy has:

7 of no substance
2 saying his vote was random
2 asking a question
This
1 saying he will look into Silverwolf
1 in which he says he plans to keep "lurking" and also says Scotty is a civilian
1 in which he says Scotty isn't playing like "baddie Scotty."
1 in which he says he finds Matt more genuine that DFaraday
1 in which he says he trusts Dom's judgment and votes Illyria
1 in which he accuses Illyria of "NO U"
and 3 caps locked gibberish

That's it.

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