Downton Abbey Mafia (ENDGAME)

[Dom]

Additionally, Lorab's focus in her last post was on her own voters rather than the DFaraday voters. Given that DFaraday was good and was Tom's victim, I would expect an almost-lynched Tom to use DFaraday's lynch to look for suspects. Lorab didn't go that route.

Lorab, who among DFaraday's remaining voters is the most suspicious to you?

Damn Epignosis out here with the good points again.

[Long Con]

I want reason for your Rab suspicion 1st if you can daisy.

Yes, I concur with this.

Scotty is one I could easily see being bad. He's kept kind of a low profile this game.

Llama and Wilgy.. are they defending Lorab? Llama seems to believe Lorab is the lynch switcher, contrary to Epi's theory. Llama is interested in a Scotty suspicion. So is Nerolunar. So is Dom. Dom and Nero also suspect Lorab, just slightly less.

Wilgy gets badder vibes from sig, and votes him. Then:

Yeah sig is totes bad so I'll join him and vote ika.

Derp.

Matt is sort of a wild card in this game, is he more zany than substance? I feel like he's had some suspicion, but he's hard to keep a hold of. After Metalmarsh votes for him, he counter-votes Metalmarsh.

Llama votes Scotty, Nero follows suit, then Metalmarsh becomes more interested in a sig lynch. Nero says no, Scotty looks badder. ika and Wilgy both prefer sig, but ika's vote is on Llama.

Currently, things are pretty spread out:

Dom
0
No votes
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Epignosis
0
No votes
Ika
1
sig (5) 9%
Illyria
0
No votes
Long Con
0
No votes
Lorab
0
No votes
Matt
1
Metalmarsh89 (8) 9%
Metalmarsh89
1
Matt (9) 9%
Nerolunar
0
No votes
Scotty
2
thellama73 (10), Nerolunar (11) 18%
sig
1
DrWilgy (7) 9%
Sorsha
0
No votes
Spacedaisy
0
No votes
thellama73
1
ika (4) 9%

[Long Con]

Dom, I see you haven't voted yet? Where would you place your vote if you were to vote now?

[Long Con]

I'm placing my vote on sig right now. His "need a loaded question" thing with Epi looks like a borderline slip, and has given me my biggest ping.

[sig]

Im getting baddie vibrations from Sig.

I'll vote there.

Day 4 and only vibrations? Not a very good reason to vote.

Seems like a good reason to me. Sig why is the reason behind your vote more concerning than the fact that it happened?

I don't understand your question?

linki: aww that isn't very nice. Good news though? Llama bussing me on weak reasons probably means he is mafia.

It wasn't a slip or anything close, Epi didn't answer my meta question yet went out of his way to say so. Then I asked in a different way and he still didn't answer.

[sig]

"Meta" is foolishness.

I disagree. Though if you won't talk meta what do you think of her slightly manipulative posts and comments about how fast and crazy the game is.

What do you think of loaded questions?

I think I wouldn't need to have asked a loaded question if someone had given me a meta read/insight instead of saying meta was foolish.

I assume you mean this post? I wanted to know how everyone else thought of her post, which I read as manipulative. Since Epi refused to answer and nobody else did I went with my thoughts that it was manipulative. Since according to him "meta is foolish"

[sig]

Nice of Ika to slip in that nice NO U fly by vote also

[Long Con]

Im getting baddie vibrations from Sig.

I'll vote there.

Day 4 and only vibrations? Not a very good reason to vote.

Seems like a good reason to me. Sig why is the reason behind your vote more concerning than the fact that it happened?

I don't understand your question?

linki: aww that isn't very nice. Good news though? Llama bussing me on weak reasons probably means he is mafia.

It wasn't a slip or anything close, Epi didn't answer my meta question yet went out of his way to say so. Then I asked in a different way and he still didn't answer.

But Llama is voting for Scotty. And I think your question was manipulative.

Linki: I discussed Illy when I posted, and I don't think there's much there to suspect. You think she was manipulative when scolding Dom?

[sig]

Im getting baddie vibrations from Sig.

I'll vote there.

Day 4 and only vibrations? Not a very good reason to vote.

Seems like a good reason to me. Sig why is the reason behind your vote more concerning than the fact that it happened?

I don't understand your question?

linki: aww that isn't very nice. Good news though? Llama bussing me on weak reasons probably means he is mafia.

It wasn't a slip or anything close, Epi didn't answer my meta question yet went out of his way to say so. Then I asked in a different way and he still didn't answer.

But Llama is voting for Scotty. And I think your question was manipulative.

Linki: I discussed Illy when I posted, and I don't think there's much there to suspect. You think she was manipulative when scolding Dom?

I didn't view my question as manipulative mainly since I wasn't hiding my thoughts. I think someone said that wasn't the case and I'm willing to believe them.
I was unsure if she was or not it could've been but being unfamiliar with her I wanted to check with someone who had played with her before. I was ISOing her and it was something I noticed not really vote worthy but like I said worth noting.

[sig]

What do you think of Ika's vote?

[Epignosis]

At present, I would be willing to vote sig or Scotty, but my willingness needs reason.

[sig]

At present, I would be willing to vote sig or Scotty, but my willingness needs reason.

Your reason to vote for Scotty would be to tie it with Sig, and sig is awesome.

Or you could join me and vote for Ika.

[Epignosis]

At present, I would be willing to vote sig or Scotty, but my willingness needs reason.

Your reason to vote for Scotty would be to tie it with Sig, and sig is awesome.

Or you could join me and vote for Ika.

sig.

ika.

I don't do, "Hey help me lynch this guy" and "join me and vote that guy!"

[sig]

At present, I would be willing to vote sig or Scotty, but my willingness needs reason.

Your reason to vote for Scotty would be to tie it with Sig, and sig is awesome.

Or you could join me and vote for Ika.

sig.

ika.

I don't do, "Hey help me lynch this guy" and "join me and vote that guy!"

Well it was worth a try.

What do you think of Ika's silent vote?

[Long Con]

I don't have a problem with ika's vote for you - he said you were one of his top suspicions already. I was surprised that his vote was still on Llama and not on you at the time I voted, actually.

[sig]

@LC the fact it was a fly by vote right after you voted was the issue, not the fact he voted for me. However, I was only a major suspect after I suspected him.

[Epignosis]

I voted silenced Scotty. I gather he is silenced because only he and Illyria have not posted, but he has votes but has said nothing.

[Long Con]

@LC the fact it was a fly by vote right after you voted was the issue, not the fact he voted for me. However, I was only a major suspect after I suspected him.

A fly-by vote without a post is not how I like to see a vote cast, I agree with you there.

I voted silenced Scotty. I gather he is silenced because only he and Illyria have not posted, but he has votes but has said nothing.

No moral qualms for voting a silenced guy? I hadn't realized he was silenced.

[Epignosis]

I voted silenced Scotty. I gather he is silenced because only he and Illyria have not posted, but he has votes but has said nothing.

No moral qualms for voting a silenced guy? I hadn't realized he was silenced.

I never have moral qualms about that (well, mostly never). When the silencing is coming from a civilian, then I take a silencing to mean, "Shoosh, villain!"

[Long Con]

I voted silenced Scotty. I gather he is silenced because only he and Illyria have not posted, but he has votes but has said nothing.

No moral qualms for voting a silenced guy? I hadn't realized he was silenced.

I never have moral qualms about that (well, mostly never). When the silencing is coming from a civilian, then I take a silencing to mean, "Shoosh, villain!"

A Civ might also silence one who is merely at their throat too much as well... but you already suspected Scotty, so I can understand why you'd lean that way.

[Epignosis]

I voted silenced Scotty. I gather he is silenced because only he and Illyria have not posted, but he has votes but has said nothing.

No moral qualms for voting a silenced guy? I hadn't realized he was silenced.

I never have moral qualms about that (well, mostly never). When the silencing is coming from a civilian, then I take a silencing to mean, "Shoosh, villain!"

A Civ might also silence one who is merely at their throat too much as well... but you already suspected Scotty, so I can understand why you'd lean that way.

Why did you vote spacedaisy but refrain from a second bout like you did with DFaraday?

[Epignosis]

Additionally, can you show me where I suspected Scotty previously?

[Dom]

Dom, I see you haven't voted yet? Where would you place your vote if you were to vote now?

Spacedaisy, but I'm interesting in what sig is saying-- not positively.

[ika]

Nice of Ika to slip in that nice NO U fly by vote also

It was never a no u vote not have I ever public claimed my votes all game so nice misrepresentaion

[Long Con]

I voted silenced Scotty. I gather he is silenced because only he and Illyria have not posted, but he has votes but has said nothing.

No moral qualms for voting a silenced guy? I hadn't realized he was silenced.

I never have moral qualms about that (well, mostly never). When the silencing is coming from a civilian, then I take a silencing to mean, "Shoosh, villain!"

A Civ might also silence one who is merely at their throat too much as well... but you already suspected Scotty, so I can understand why you'd lean that way.

Why did you vote spacedaisy but refrain from a second bout like you did with DFaraday?

I voted Spacedaisy because I got back to vote very late in the lynch, when it was something like 8-6, Lorab over Daisy, and I suspect Daisy more than Lorab. However, my suspicion of Daisy had already fallen quite a bit even by that time, and I'd put her in a neutral yellowish area of a current rainbow list. Also, I don't necessarily vote in twos as a rule.

[Long Con]

Additionally, can you show me where I suspected Scotty previously?

Actually, no I can't. I think I mixed Llama's suspicion up with yours, sorry.

[Epignosis]

Additionally, can you show me where I suspected Scotty previously?

Actually, no I can't. I think I mixed Llama's suspicion up with yours, sorry.

No worries.

[Polo]

It's cold in here.

[LoRab]

Additionally, Lorab's focus in her last post was on her own voters rather than the DFaraday voters. Given that DFaraday was good and was Tom's victim, I would expect an almost-lynched Tom to use DFaraday's lynch to look for suspects. Lorab didn't go that route.

Lorab, who among DFaraday's remaining voters is the most suspicious to you?

Do you have a list handy of who those voters are?

Day 1: Long Con, thellama73, and sig.
Day 2: Nerolunar, sig, Long Con, and Matt

Indeed, I am not the lynch switcher.

Of those names, Nero is the one that jumps out--I also found his vote against me to be suspicious, so there's a pattern there.

The rest I don't really have a strong read on/have no idea about, or I'm reading as civ.

[Spacedaisy]

I'm at work so let me keep my explanation quick. Matt is low engagement right now, but he has not been replaced. I think a person who believes they might not have time is more likely to hang in there longer if they are a civ, because they don't have teammates they know they are letting down. Civs don't know who their teammates are so they are less likely to feel the pressure of helping their team. That was a very fast replacement and she didn't say anything about getting a replacement in her post that I recall. Most civs announce they are going to ask for one.

I agree with this. I think hosts are more likely to replace baddies whose team needs them than a lone civ. Many hosts have disagreed with me on this, but I've seen it happen, man.

Avert your eyes, Scotty...

Still *catching up* (on page 10), but I don't think Bubbles being replaced has anything to do with her/bea's alignment. I was very nearly replaced just the other day, but I convinced our gracious hostess that I would play more and I'm civ soooo...

Also, Lol @ Epi. Yeah dude, I realized the irony after I posted it

Anyway, Illy is still my top suspect. Lots and lots of questions about multi-quoting, how to post in off topic, etc, it really feels like she's pushing the "I'm not on a team, see, look at all my questions about stuff" agenda.

I like reading about dying Wilgy and his diary pages. Good stuff.

Looks like Daisy is the first to vote for bwt (?) when Dom and DF were getting heat the other day. Hrm.

Anyway, I'll be back in a bit.

I've been doing some ISOing and this popped out to me. I never once meant to imply that Bubbles would be replaced without her consent that quickly, especially directly after her posting/voting. I don't know any host who would do that. I always believed that Bubbles had asked for a replacement but not told us in thread and that she did it in a hurry for some reason. I was wrong about her alignment clearly. But this statement by Matt went right by me. He had been posting and voting, why would he have to convince Elo to let him continue to play? That seems out of character for any host.

Epi, you know your wife better than I do, does this seem to fit something she would do as a host?

Better yet, Hostess: Would a player who was actively posting and voting be replaced without first asking for a replacement?

Off to continue my ISOs...

[Long Con]

I'm at work so let me keep my explanation quick. Matt is low engagement right now, but he has not been replaced. I think a person who believes they might not have time is more likely to hang in there longer if they are a civ, because they don't have teammates they know they are letting down. Civs don't know who their teammates are so they are less likely to feel the pressure of helping their team. That was a very fast replacement and she didn't say anything about getting a replacement in her post that I recall. Most civs announce they are going to ask for one.

I agree with this. I think hosts are more likely to replace baddies whose team needs them than a lone civ. Many hosts have disagreed with me on this, but I've seen it happen, man.

Avert your eyes, Scotty...

Still *catching up* (on page 10), but I don't think Bubbles being replaced has anything to do with her/bea's alignment. I was very nearly replaced just the other day, but I convinced our gracious hostess that I would play more and I'm civ soooo...

Also, Lol @ Epi. Yeah dude, I realized the irony after I posted it

Anyway, Illy is still my top suspect. Lots and lots of questions about multi-quoting, how to post in off topic, etc, it really feels like she's pushing the "I'm not on a team, see, look at all my questions about stuff" agenda.

I like reading about dying Wilgy and his diary pages. Good stuff.

Looks like Daisy is the first to vote for bwt (?) when Dom and DF were getting heat the other day. Hrm.

Anyway, I'll be back in a bit.

I've been doing some ISOing and this popped out to me. I never once meant to imply that Bubbles would be replaced without her consent that quickly, especially directly after her posting/voting. I don't know any host who would do that. I always believed that Bubbles had asked for a replacement but not told us in thread and that she did it in a hurry for some reason. I was wrong about her alignment clearly. But this statement by Matt went right by me. He had been posting and voting, why would he have to convince Elo to let him continue to play? That seems out of character for any host.

Epi, you know your wife better than I do, does this seem to fit something she would do as a host?

Better yet, Hostess: Would a player who was actively posting and voting be replaced without first asking for a replacement?

Off to continue my ISOs...

That certainly pops out. I don't know what to think about that, forcible replacements are pretty rare.

[Spacedaisy]

You don't have to talk about your thoughts on the trains, it's just the absence of mentioning them at all and attaching yourself to bwt for posting in succession, of all things, seemed like a thin reason and convenient attempt to start another wagon.

Your explanation here about not voting Ddaraday is welcomed here in the manor, but I'm not sated unfortunately. It just seems convenient is all.

It wasn't just the succession of posts, as I explained already. It was the content of the posts and the change in opinion between two them. I had to quote and explain them in different posts than my vote because I was on my phone at that moment.

Also, what are you doing in the manor? I'm chillin' in the garden.

Hey Marshie, What is this statement about?

[Polo]

Being dead is really quite calming but can somebody please make these rats stop nibbling my feet?

[DrWilgy]

Being dead is really quite calming but can somebody please make these rats stop nibbling my feet?

*stops nibbling feet*

[Spacedaisy]

After reading MM, I feel like I can move him up with Black Rock into the slight civ read group, edging on full civ read. The only thing that gave me pause was the quote I already mentioned there and I suspect I'm tinfoiling, but I'd like to see his response and anyone else on that silly little statement.

That said, I disagree with the following statement. I'm not convinced the doctor is faking. We didn't see anyone insanified Day 1, it could easily be faked if they felt the insanifier was dead. Have we seen anyone insanified today? I haven't yet read back over Wilgy yet, but my gut is still unsettled about his "insanified" posts.

I don't think the doctor's faking. No one else has been cursed.

[Nerolunar]

Scotty is silenced? didn´t realize that before someone pointed it out. I think its kinda shitty to vote for a silenced person so I will move my vote.

Lorab

Suspicion still lingers from yesterday. I feel like she is currently trying to clean it up but so far Im not convinced.

[Dom]

I'm at work so let me keep my explanation quick. Matt is low engagement right now, but he has not been replaced. I think a person who believes they might not have time is more likely to hang in there longer if they are a civ, because they don't have teammates they know they are letting down. Civs don't know who their teammates are so they are less likely to feel the pressure of helping their team. That was a very fast replacement and she didn't say anything about getting a replacement in her post that I recall. Most civs announce they are going to ask for one.

I agree with this. I think hosts are more likely to replace baddies whose team needs them than a lone civ. Many hosts have disagreed with me on this, but I've seen it happen, man.

Avert your eyes, Scotty...

Still *catching up* (on page 10), but I don't think Bubbles being replaced has anything to do with her/bea's alignment. I was very nearly replaced just the other day, but I convinced our gracious hostess that I would play more and I'm civ soooo...

Also, Lol @ Epi. Yeah dude, I realized the irony after I posted it

Anyway, Illy is still my top suspect. Lots and lots of questions about multi-quoting, how to post in off topic, etc, it really feels like she's pushing the "I'm not on a team, see, look at all my questions about stuff" agenda.

I like reading about dying Wilgy and his diary pages. Good stuff.

Looks like Daisy is the first to vote for bwt (?) when Dom and DF were getting heat the other day. Hrm.

Anyway, I'll be back in a bit.

I've been doing some ISOing and this popped out to me. I never once meant to imply that Bubbles would be replaced without her consent that quickly, especially directly after her posting/voting. I don't know any host who would do that. I always believed that Bubbles had asked for a replacement but not told us in thread and that she did it in a hurry for some reason. I was wrong about her alignment clearly. But this statement by Matt went right by me. He had been posting and voting, why would he have to convince Elo to let him continue to play? That seems out of character for any host.

Epi, you know your wife better than I do, does this seem to fit something she would do as a host?

Better yet, Hostess: Would a player who was actively posting and voting be replaced without first asking for a replacement?

Off to continue my ISOs...

Weren't you one of the players who suspected Bubbles because she HAD been replaced and Matt hadn't?
Doesn't that imply that you are thinking that he should have been replaced at the time?
And therefore of similar mindset to Elo?

After reading MM, I feel like I can move him up with Black Rock into the slight civ read group, edging on full civ read. The only thing that gave me pause was the quote I already mentioned there and I suspect I'm tinfoiling, but I'd like to see his response and anyone else on that silly little statement.

That said, I disagree with the following statement. I'm not convinced the doctor is faking. We didn't see anyone insanified Day 1, it could easily be faked if they felt the insanifier was dead. Have we seen anyone insanified today? I haven't yet read back over Wilgy yet, but my gut is still unsettled about his "insanified" posts.

I don't think the doctor's faking. No one else has been cursed.

I trust Wilgy. I think.

[Long Con]

That said, I disagree with the following statement. I'm not convinced the doctor is faking. We didn't see anyone insanified Day 1, it could easily be faked if they felt the insanifier was dead. Have we seen anyone insanified today? I haven't yet read back over Wilgy yet, but my gut is still unsettled about his "insanified" posts.

I don't think the doctor's faking. No one else has been cursed.

Is it just me, or did you mean to say the opposite of this statement? Maybe "I'm not convinced the doctor isn't faking"?

[Marmot]

You don't have to talk about your thoughts on the trains, it's just the absence of mentioning them at all and attaching yourself to bwt for posting in succession, of all things, seemed like a thin reason and convenient attempt to start another wagon.

Your explanation here about not voting Ddaraday is welcomed here in the manor, but I'm not sated unfortunately. It just seems convenient is all.

It wasn't just the succession of posts, as I explained already. It was the content of the posts and the change in opinion between two them. I had to quote and explain them in different posts than my vote because I was on my phone at that moment.

Also, what are you doing in the manor? I'm chillin' in the garden.

Hey Marshie, What is this statement about?

That statement was about BWT and my Day 1 suspicion of him. Scotty thought I suspected BWT for posting twice in a row. I explained that no, it was because he said two different things in consecutive posts.

[thellama73]

I will be unavailable for the rest of today after about noon, so if anyone has anything to discuss with me, do it now.

[Marmot]

After reading MM, I feel like I can move him up with Black Rock into the slight civ read group, edging on full civ read. The only thing that gave me pause was the quote I already mentioned there and I suspect I'm tinfoiling, but I'd like to see his response and anyone else on that silly little statement.

That said, I disagree with the following statement. I'm not convinced the doctor is faking. We didn't see anyone insanified Day 1, it could easily be faked if they felt the insanifier was dead. Have we seen anyone insanified today? I haven't yet read back over Wilgy yet, but my gut is still unsettled about his "insanified" posts.

I don't think the doctor's faking. No one else has been cursed.

The only reason DrWilgy would have to fake being insanified is if he is mafia. I can't think of a town reason to fake such a thing.

But you do bring up a good point, because mafia could know that the insanifier is dead.

[Epignosis]

I will be unavailable for the rest of today after about noon, so if anyone has anything to discuss with me, do it now.

You mean I can get you lynched without you around to defend yourself?

[Marmot]

That said, I disagree with the following statement. I'm not convinced the doctor is faking. We didn't see anyone insanified Day 1, it could easily be faked if they felt the insanifier was dead. Have we seen anyone insanified today? I haven't yet read back over Wilgy yet, but my gut is still unsettled about his "insanified" posts.

I don't think the doctor's faking. No one else has been cursed.

Is it just me, or did you mean to say the opposite of this statement? Maybe "I'm not convinced the doctor isn't faking"?

I think you're right, and I'm sure Spacedaisy will agree.

[Marmot]

thellama73!

[Dom]

Voted.

[thellama73]

I will be unavailable for the rest of today after about noon, so if anyone has anything to discuss with me, do it now.

You mean I can get you lynched without you around to defend yourself?

Yep! Go for it!

[Epignosis]

I just asked the host something else.

Kills can be blocked but not redirected. Therefore, what Lorab suggested about Silverwolf isn't possible. Silverwolf is 100% civilian.

[Marmot]

Hey Nerolunar, after you found out that Scotty might be silenced, why did vote for LoRab and not sig?

[Long Con]

I just asked the host something else.

Kills can be blocked but not redirected. Therefore, what Lorab suggested about Silverwolf isn't possible. Silverwolf is 100% civilian.

I would have never thought to ask that one. I think it was always best to consider Silver a Civ, rather than an extremely unfortunate baddie.

[Epignosis]

I just asked the host something else.

Kills can be blocked but not redirected. Therefore, what Lorab suggested about Silverwolf isn't possible. Silverwolf is 100% civilian.

I would have never thought to ask that one. I think it was always best to consider Silver a Civ, rather than an extremely unfortunate baddie.

I've been rather aapjistic lately.