Battlestar Galactica Mafia - GAME OVER

#1151

I just realized I managed to get three votes today.

What in the world happened while I was gone?

#1152

DrumBeats wrote:This whole are all cylons bad vs are only some cylons bad thing is interesting. Personally, I believe that only some cylons are against us and others may very well be on our side because 12 scum seems to be too many, especially with one reviving herself right now.

In order to get a more complete town consensus, I would like to hear every person's thoughts on what we are up against tonight. If everybody provides an opinion, we may be able to figure it out as a group, and we will also have things to look back on about this and maybe reveal more depending on how people flip when they die.

My opinion - Epi's Cylon role is a pro-human/town/civ role. So I definitely do not think this game is as simple a set up as humans vs Cylons anymore. When I have a few more spare minutes (we are late getting to Game of Thrones tonight as it, but my sweetie is patient, thankfully) I'll try to do some more reading. I say we all check out that Wiki and try to figure out which Cylons could be pro-human, and which definitely aren't.

Also, let's remember, I don't think we can permanently kill ANY Cylon until the Rezz Ships are destroyed.

#1153

cylons are scum, they all need to die

#1154

ika wrote:cylons are scum, they all need to die

A good many characters on the show felt the same way. So you are in good company. It was one of the on-going issues they dealt with.

#1155

indiglo wrote:I don't think we can permanently kill ANY Cylon until the Rezz Ships are destroyed.

So we should avoid lynches or else we could end up lynching a human.

#1156

Polo wrote:
indiglo wrote:I don't think we can permanently kill ANY Cylon until the Rezz Ships are destroyed.
So we should avoid lynches or else we could end up lynching a human.

We can still Cylon-hunt and find some in the process.

#1157

DrumBeats wrote:This whole are all cylons bad vs are only some cylons bad thing is interesting. Personally, I believe that only some cylons are against us and others may very well be on our side because 12 scum seems to be too many, especially with one reviving herself right now.

In order to get a more complete town consensus, I would like to hear every person's thoughts on what we are up against tonight. If everybody provides an opinion, we may be able to figure it out as a group, and we will also have things to look back on about this and maybe reveal more depending on how people flip when they die.

I don't know what we're up against. I think it makes the adventure more exciting when we have no idea what to expect.

#1158

Polo wrote:
indiglo wrote:I don't think we can permanently kill ANY Cylon until the Rezz Ships are destroyed.
So we should avoid lynches or else we could end up lynching a human.

Well, I don't know. Scum hunting could still prove useful I think. We could at least identify the Cylons, and then see if they're pro-human or not. (At least now Epi is outed, and we can have clear conversations with him. Another post on him in a minute.) And with good record keeping with our sorties and identified Cylons we could make good progress.

Also, I could be wrong. (Don't act all shocked now.

)

Ninja'd by the Marmot.

#1159

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Polo wrote:
indiglo wrote:I don't think we can permanently kill ANY Cylon until the Rezz Ships are destroyed.
So we should avoid lynches or else we could end up lynching a human.
We can still Cylon-hunt and find some in the process.

We can, but we need to be very damn sure of who we choose to lynch.

I hope Gaius Baltar does a good job.

#1160

Polo wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Polo wrote:
indiglo wrote:I don't think we can permanently kill ANY Cylon until the Rezz Ships are destroyed.
So we should avoid lynches or else we could end up lynching a human.
We can still Cylon-hunt and find some in the process.
We can, but we need to be very damn sure of who we choose to lynch.

I hope Gaius Baltar does a good job.

I'm not going to treat it any differently to be honest. It's a bummer that the Cylons won't currently die, but despite what Epignosis had to say about the rezz ship, I think it is crucial that we do destroy it.

As for him, I think we need to be careful about what he has to say. Currently, I think he is a player that we need dead, and that he is taking this opportunity of undeath to either sway us the other direction on him, or distract us from hunting other Cylons.

#1161

One final Epi / Athena thought. On the Wiki, this is part of Athena's description:

"Once on Galactica, she is imprisoned and long seen as a mere object. She frequently provides intelligence, but is severely mistreated by an interrogator from Pegasus who beats and sexually assaults her."

So, when I see Epi continuing to post "Ask me questions"... it makes me think... if we ask the right question, he may be able to provide us with intelligence. We just may have to ask the right question. I'll start with a few. Others, feel free to add on.

@ Epi - Am I on the right track with your abilities / knowledge here?

Do you know where a Rezz Ship is located?

Do you know how many sectors a Rezz Ship will fill?

Is there more than 1 Rezz Ship?

Do you have any allies?

Also, we can create a schedule for his severe mistreatment once we get these sorties sorted.

Hey buddy, you got a role to play.

#1162

Indi, how many sectors can we search? Do you know anything about the actually undertaking of our missions?

#1163

Epignosis wrote:
indiglo wrote:Who wants to authorize a mission?

11:47 pm EST - ika, A1
5:47 am EST -
11:47 am EST - indiglo
5:47 pm EST -
11:47 pm EST -

That should get us started. I volunteered for 1, but am willing to switch off as needed.

Also, what strategy do we want to take? Totally random, or a pattern?

@Epi, any insight on our search for the Rezz Ship?

I can only think that triggering this so early was a good thing. Getting rid of it will likely help us immensely.
I don't have any idea why I came back. I can take the 11:47 shift if people trust me, but I'm cool if they don't.

Sorry Epi, I missed this offer of yours. Our current time slots are full, but there will be plenty more. (In fact I could go ahead and add them right now, then folks can sign up as they trickle in.) I have no problem trusting you to cover a shift, but will also bow to others' feelings.

#1164

indeglo, epi is scum no matter what angle you wan tto take its scum

#1165

Polo, what is your opinion right now? All cylons are scum, or some cylons are on our side?

MetalMarsh89, gun to your head do you believe a cylon could be town aligned?

I like that idea Indiglo

@Epi - Are you town-aligned?

Do you know if any other cylons are town-aligned?

I'm fine with Epig covering a shift. We all will know if Epig deviates from the plan so I don't see any reason not to.

#1166

ika wrote:indeglo, epi is scum no matter what angle you wan tto take its scum

Right now I envision Golden having a hearty chuckle.

Anyway, lynching Epignosis again might answer all these questions anyway.

#1167

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Indi, how many sectors can we search? Do you know anything about the actually undertaking of our missions?

Just what Golden posted. Every 6 hours we can search 1 sector. Forever.

Let me also ask - there is a risk to both Kat and Hot Dog during this endeavor. Does anyone think those risks should temper our enthusiasm for finding the Rezz Ship(s)?

#1168

epi is scum regarless of his wincon

#1169

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Anyway, lynching Epignosis again might answer all these questions anyway.

Nice sentence, you boob.

#1170

I have a test in the morning (the stupid GRE) so I won't be here tonight to assist with the sector hunting. Good luck chums.

#1171

Ok, 1 final post, with additional time slots for sorties. (Still open to hearing if anyone wants to take a step back to avoid hurting Kat or Hot Dog too.)

I'm going to log off for a bit, but will be back at some point.

Who wants to authorize a mission?

May 8, 11:47 pm EST - ika, A1
May 9, 5:47 am EST - ika??, A3
May 9, 11:47 am EST - indiglo, A5
May 9, 5:47 pm EST - Silverwolf, B2
May 9, 11:47 pm EST - Marmot, B4
May 10, 5:47 am EST - ??? , B6
May 10, 11:47 am EST - ??? , C1
May 10, 5:47 pm EST - ??? , C3
May 10, 11:47 pm EST - ??? , C5

PLEASE NOTE -

- The sector for you to authorize for searching will be added to this list also before your deadline rolls around. Please stick to the plan.

- Check the timing of the authorization for the person before you BEFORE posting YOURS. We can ONLY do this every 6 hours, so if the person before you was a little late, adjust your time accordingly to be the same amount of late. If we mess the timing up, we may be frakked.

Mission Specs:

- We start with underlined sectors first. Going through each row.

A1 A2 A3 A4 A5 A6
B1 B2 B3 B4 B5 B6
C1 C2 C3 C4 C5 C6
D1 D2 D3 D4 D5 D6
E1 E2 E3 E4 E5 E6
F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6

#1172

DrumBeats wrote: I like that idea Indiglo

@Epi - Are you town-aligned?

Do you know if any other cylons are town-aligned?

to.

no cyclon is town, all cyclons are scum

#1173

DrumBeats wrote:Polo, what is your opinion right now? All cylons are scum, or some cylons are on our side?

MetalMarsh89, gun to your head do you believe a cylon could be town aligned?

I like that idea Indiglo

@Epi - Are you town-aligned?

Do you know if any other cylons are town-aligned?

I'm fine with Epig covering a shift. We all will know if Epig deviates from the plan so I don't see any reason not to.

No, I do not.

#1174

JJJ, thoughts? Are all cylons scum, or could some cylons be town? Also good luck on the GRE

#1175

DrumBeats wrote:JJJ, thoughts? Are all cylons scum, or could some cylons be town? Also good luck on the GRE

they are scum

i dont give damn what te wiki says

#1176

indiglo wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Indi, how many sectors can we search? Do you know anything about the actually undertaking of our missions?
Just what Golden posted. Every 6 hours we can search 1 sector. Forever.

Let me also ask - there is a risk to both Kat and Hot Dog during this endeavor. Does anyone think those risks should temper our enthusiasm for finding the Rezz Ship(s)?

I think Kat would Hot Dog will just have to deal if this means we can kill Cylons.

I say this with the slight possibility that I could be one of those two roles. (roughly 6.89 %)

#1177

Ok, 1 for real last thought.

@ Epi - You said you have no idea why you're back. Did you watch the show?

You were not told about the Rezz Ship? I assumed that would have been common Cylon knowledge.

Logging off for realsies. I love it when games get fun! And this one is complicated enough to be fun AND figure outtable.

Linkis - which I read this time before posting. OMG!!

#1178

ika wrote:
DrumBeats wrote:JJJ, thoughts? Are all cylons scum, or could some cylons be town? Also good luck on the GRE
they are scum

i dont give damn what te wiki says

I was just browsing the wiki for BSG, and it said that Epignosis was actually a civilian.

The plot thickens.

#1179

DrumBeats wrote:JJJ, thoughts? Are all cylons scum, or could some cylons be town? Also good luck on the GRE

I have no clue. I'd be surprised if this game is as straightforward as town versus scum though, so I'll keep an open mind. The game was even advertised as being outside-the-box. People who know the show best might be the most qualified to provide insight here.

#1180

DrumBeats wrote:Polo, what is your opinion right now? All cylons are scum, or some cylons are on our side?

I think some cylons could be on our side, but I am not sure. It's too early for me to be sure of that.

I have a feeling that win conditions are most probably not the same for all cylons or for all humans. Say, a human who cannot be part of the Final Five may need all cylons to die in order to win; a human who ends up being part of the Final Five may need all scummy cylons to die; etc, etc, etc.

#1181

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
ika wrote:
DrumBeats wrote:JJJ, thoughts? Are all cylons scum, or could some cylons be town? Also good luck on the GRE
they are scum

i dont give damn what te wiki says
I was just browsing the wiki for BSG, and it said that Epignosis was actually a civilian.

The plot thickens.

OMG......

STOP USING THE DAMN WIKI HE IS SCUM NO QUESTIONS ASKED

#1182

Cylons are NOT town. OMG people. WTF?

Epi needs to die. There is no question here. I don't give a damn what the wiki says.

If you let him live another day, you lynch me instead. I'm not playing with this level of frustration by allowing a confirmed Cylon to live or calling it town.

#1183

And who the hell said there were 12 Cylons in this game? Where does it say that?

#1184

Silverwolf wrote:Cylons are NOT town. OMG people. WTF?

Epi needs to die. There is no question here. I don't give a damn what the wiki says.

If you let him live another day, you lynch me instead. I'm not playing with this level of frustration by allowing a confirmed Cylon to live or calling it town.

you realize i will stop anyone and everyone who does try to vote you right?

epi is scum

i mean PEOPLE LOOK

Gaius Baltar- Baltar has invented a Cylon detector, and with it he can check if someone is a Cylon each night.

WHAT THE HELL IS THE POINT OF THIS ROLE IF CYLONS ARE TOWN? CYLONS ARE SCUM

#1185

ika wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
ika wrote:
DrumBeats wrote:JJJ, thoughts? Are all cylons scum, or could some cylons be town? Also good luck on the GRE
they are scum

i dont give damn what te wiki says
I was just browsing the wiki for BSG, and it said that Epignosis was actually a civilian.

The plot thickens.
OMG......

STOP USING THE DAMN WIKI HE IS SCUM NO QUESTIONS ASKED

Are you taking this personally because of Epi's dialogue with Silverwolf or do you really think there's no way a Cylon's win condition cannot be the death of all humans?

I'm playing the Devil's advocate here, by the way. Every option is still a option to me and I believe one needs to tread carefully in the early stages of a game.

#1186

Silverwolf wrote:And who the hell said there were 12 Cylons in this game? Where does it say that?

drumbeats, theres 8 to start with, plus final 5 i think that could be a possible slip?

#1187

Polo wrote:
DrumBeats wrote:Polo, what is your opinion right now? All cylons are scum, or some cylons are on our side?
I think some cylons could be on our side, but I am not sure. It's too early for me to be sure of that.

I have a feeling that win conditions are most probably not the same for all cylons or for all humans. Say, a human who cannot be part of the Final Five may need all cylons to die in order to win; a human who ends up being part of the Final Five may need all scummy cylons to die; etc, etc, etc.

Ok, I have a question for you then, and anyone who's willing to answer.

What if you are one of three players left in the game, and you are a member of the final five. What if one of the players left is a Cylon who you can win with, and another one is a human you can win with. BUT, the human needs this Cylon dead, and the Cylon needs the human dead.

Who do you vote for, the human or the Cylon?

Link: It's in this post Silverwolf. There are twelve Cylon models.

#1188

ika wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
ika wrote:
DrumBeats wrote:JJJ, thoughts? Are all cylons scum, or could some cylons be town? Also good luck on the GRE
they are scum

i dont give damn what te wiki says
I was just browsing the wiki for BSG, and it said that Epignosis was actually a civilian.

The plot thickens.
OMG......

STOP USING THE DAMN WIKI HE IS SCUM NO QUESTIONS ASKED

Sorry ika, this was just a joke. :P

What I intended to say that the wiki said the Epignosis himself is a civilian, not that his role was civilian. That joke kinda failed though.

#1189

Polo wrote:
Are you taking this personally because of Epi's dialogue with Silverwolf or do you really think there's no way a Cylon's win condition cannot be the death of all humans?

I'm playing the Devil's advocate here, by the way. Every option is still a option to me and I believe one needs to tread carefully in the early stages of a game.

it it not personal at all, not one bit.

EPI IS SCUM, CYLON NEED TO, DIE NO QUESTIONS ASKED! IF I HAVE TO QUOTE SPAM THIS EVEY POST I WILL

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1190

holy shit I'm a dumbass and got distracted by RL and missed the vote. so sorry Golden I am kicking myself

I probably would have voted for Epig anyway but I need to catch up on a shit ton

#1191

nutella wrote:holy shit I'm a dumbass and got distracted by RL and missed the vote. so sorry Golden I am kicking myself I probably would have voted for Epig anyway but I need to catch up on a shit ton

So say we all.

#1192

nutella wrote:holy shit I'm a dumbass and got distracted by RL and missed the vote. so sorry Golden I am kicking myself I probably would have voted for Epig anyway but I need to catch up on a shit ton

i find that to be bullshit. most of your post have beena botu me then anoyne else

#1193

I can envision this argument turning into one that devours Day 2 and wastes everyone's time.

If Epi is lynched again then there's a good chance some of these concerns will be answered. Until he is removed from the game this argument will persist, and the mere thought of that is already irking me.

Pretty sure I forgot So say we all too. Oops. Not going to shimmy it in there now, I just screwed up.

#1194

ika wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:Cylons are NOT town. OMG people. WTF?

Epi needs to die. There is no question here. I don't give a damn what the wiki says.

If you let him live another day, you lynch me instead. I'm not playing with this level of frustration by allowing a confirmed Cylon to live or calling it town.
you realize i will stop anyone and everyone who does try to vote you right?

epi is scum

i mean PEOPLE LOOK

Gaius Baltar- Baltar has invented a Cylon detector, and with it he can check if someone is a Cylon each night.

WHAT THE HELL IS THE POINT OF THIS ROLE IF CYLONS ARE TOWN? CYLONS ARE SCUM

This plus look at the poll where we vote for bad guys and what it says:

Who is a cylon?

So our goal is to vote off bad guys-ie: Cylons

Also, no one should be listening to Epi who is gonna troll and try to confuse us.

#1195

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I can envision this argument turning into one that devours Day 2 and wastes everyone's time.

If Epi is lynched again then there's a good chance some of these concerns will be answered. Until he is removed from the game this argument will persist, and the mere thought of that is already irking me.

Pretty sure I forgot So say we all too. Oops. Not going to shimmy it in there now, I just screwed up.

it 100% will so long as people still cant get the fact that cylons need to die

EPI IS SCUM, CYLON NEED TO, DIE NO QUESTIONS ASKED!

#1196

ika wrote:
Polo wrote:
Are you taking this personally because of Epi's dialogue with Silverwolf or do you really think there's no way a Cylon's win condition cannot be the death of all humans?

I'm playing the Devil's advocate here, by the way. Every option is still a option to me and I believe one needs to tread carefully in the early stages of a game.
it it not personal at all, not one bit.

EPI IS SCUM, CYLON NEED TO, DIE NO QUESTIONS ASKED! IF I HAVE TO QUOTE SPAM THIS EVEY POST I WILL

Please don't spam the same thing over again. I do think we need to kill Epignosis again, I agree with you there. But I am not going into Day 2 with the mindset of lynching him. We may end up with the same result and that would be unproductive.

I'd rather see what these missions can procure for us, and search elsewhere in the process. Focusing on Epignosis won't help if there are seven other Cylons we need to eliminate.

#1197

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
ika wrote:
Polo wrote:
Are you taking this personally because of Epi's dialogue with Silverwolf or do you really think there's no way a Cylon's win condition cannot be the death of all humans?

I'm playing the Devil's advocate here, by the way. Every option is still a option to me and I believe one needs to tread carefully in the early stages of a game.
it it not personal at all, not one bit.

EPI IS SCUM, CYLON NEED TO, DIE NO QUESTIONS ASKED! IF I HAVE TO QUOTE SPAM THIS EVEY POST I WILL
Please don't spam the same thing over again. I do think we need to kill Epignosis again, I agree with you there. But I am not going into Day 2 with the mindset of lynching him. We may end up with the same result and that would be unproductive.

I'd rather see what these missions can procure for us, and search elsewhere in the process. Focusing on Epignosis won't help if there are seven other Cylons we need to eliminate.

as long as poeple still call him town or even consider it i will spam it every post.

#1198

Lol, poop.

#1199

ika wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
ika wrote:
Polo wrote:
Are you taking this personally because of Epi's dialogue with Silverwolf or do you really think there's no way a Cylon's win condition cannot be the death of all humans?

I'm playing the Devil's advocate here, by the way. Every option is still a option to me and I believe one needs to tread carefully in the early stages of a game.
it it not personal at all, not one bit.

EPI IS SCUM, CYLON NEED TO, DIE NO QUESTIONS ASKED! IF I HAVE TO QUOTE SPAM THIS EVEY POST I WILL
Please don't spam the same thing over again. I do think we need to kill Epignosis again, I agree with you there. But I am not going into Day 2 with the mindset of lynching him. We may end up with the same result and that would be unproductive.

I'd rather see what these missions can procure for us, and search elsewhere in the process. Focusing on Epignosis won't help if there are seven other Cylons we need to eliminate.
as long as poeple still call him town or even consider it i will spam it every post.

I can't stop you, but I urge you to reconsider.

We need the energy focused elsewhere if Epignosis can't be lynched.

#1200

ika wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:And who the hell said there were 12 Cylons in this game? Where does it say that?
drumbeats, theres 8 to start with, plus final 5 i think that could be a possible slip?

Reread Epig's death/revive post. There's an image that says there are 12 cylon models.

Also Nutella, do you belive that all vylons are scum, or do you think some cylons could be town?

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