Psych Mafia [END]

[BigDamnHero]

Once again, I would advise you all NOT to lynch me.

This comes off more as a threat/warning moreso than a plea from an innocent civ.

What more do you want me to say that I haven't already? My back's against the wall, and people suspect me for [infinite reasons].



Also, I'm not lying. I haven't lied at all this game. Yet.

How do you expect us to exonerate you when you say stuff like this?!?! Even if we believe the first part or your statement, the "yet" is a STRONG indicator that you plan on lying at some point in the future. What possible reason would a civ have to lie about something?

Can we PLEASE talk about someone else today? I mean you think I'm bad. Hear you loud and clear.
But No matter my alignment, you'll look at today and go "wow! I learned nothing! Literally everyone was criticizing Scotty, and now we have to look to start the game over since the entire fucking game has been "I think Scotty is bad because ___". It might as well be Day 0 again.

Who else should we talk about? Personally, I'd love to hear from any number of folks who, for various reasons, haven't been a big presence in the game yet...

[Russtifinko]

Can we PLEASE talk about someone else today? I mean you think I'm bad. Hear you loud and clear.
But No matter my alignment, you'll look at today and go "wow! I learned nothing! Literally everyone was criticizing Scotty, and now we have to look to start the game over since the entire fucking game has been "I think Scotty is bad because ___". It might as well be Day 0 again.

I agree with this completely.

Matt's gone really silent, and I'm still not sure if any/all of Wilgy's posts this game have been serious or not. I've gotten the feeling that he's "helping", but in a tongue-in-cheek way. Anyone have thoughts on that? I've only ever played with him once, and we were baddie teammates. What's his civ MO?

[BigDamnHero]

Can we PLEASE talk about someone else today? I mean you think I'm bad. Hear you loud and clear.
But No matter my alignment, you'll look at today and go "wow! I learned nothing! Literally everyone was criticizing Scotty, and now we have to look to start the game over since the entire fucking game has been "I think Scotty is bad because ___". It might as well be Day 0 again.

I agree with this completely.

Matt's gone really silent, and I'm still not sure if any/all of Wilgy's posts this game have been serious or not. I've gotten the feeling that he's "helping", but in a tongue-in-cheek way. Anyone have thoughts on that? I've only ever played with him once, and we were baddie teammates. What's his civ MO?

We'll Matt WAS incarcerated until today...but I'd like to get a read from his perspective since he's only been able to sit back and watch how things have transpired.

[birdwithteeth11]

@HOSTS Did anyone crack the safe last night? (I forgot to send in my numbers )
If no one did, can we try again tonight?

Linki: if I get mislynched, you "saved" me for all intents and purposes, making civ look bad. Then, if sit gets mislynched (if he is good), then no one can blame you for casting your vote on him in that situation, because you 'didn't think I was bad', and you don't get heat for it.

This might be the first thing you've said that makes sense. Although that being said, I still don't think Epig is bad at this point in time.

So you think sig getting lynched would give us the most info? Or do you think it is someone else?

Because for this lynch, I still think you dying is the best bet to get the best intel possible. But if you can convince me that someone else would be more worthwhile, then I am willing to listen.

[birdwithteeth11]

Once again, I would advise you all NOT to lynch me.

...and you were getting so close too.

Votes Scotty

[birdwithteeth11]

Can we PLEASE talk about someone else today? I mean you think I'm bad. Hear you loud and clear.
But No matter my alignment, you'll look at today and go "wow! I learned nothing! Literally everyone was criticizing Scotty, and now we have to look to start the game over since the entire fucking game has been "I think Scotty is bad because ___". It might as well be Day 0 again.

I agree with this completely.

Matt's gone really silent, and I'm still not sure if any/all of Wilgy's posts this game have been serious or not. I've gotten the feeling that he's "helping", but in a tongue-in-cheek way. Anyone have thoughts on that? I've only ever played with him once, and we were baddie teammates. What's his civ MO?

We'll Matt WAS incarcerated until today...but I'd like to get a read from his perspective since he's only been able to sit back and watch how things have transpired.

I'd be curious to hear some of Matt's thoughts as well. I can't remember if he ever came back to explain anything from Day 1. Or after that for that matter.

[Quin]

I've feel like I've played enough games where my actions as a civ have come across in the most suspicious way possible to know when I see it in other people. I won't vote for Scotty today.

I like his insistence on trying to make people talk about other things. He asked a few times, but was still keen on arguing his case, which tells me that he's more likely to be a civvie attempting to uncover information than a baddie trying to hide behind a deflection strategy.

His 'I haven't checked my role card yet huehuehue' thing looks objectively suspicious on the surface, but what motivation does a baddie have to say that? There is absolutely no advantage in a baddie Scotty starting off his game in the way he did.

The lynch train that formed on him also makes me think he's civ. I don't see a situation where that bandwagon could get going that quickly and not have baddies jump on. For the sake of digging up as much as I can, here are a few defences here by nijuukujou and Matt, but I can't accuse either of them of saving Scotty in these posts:

Spoiler: show

Thread, don't be a nightmare to read here.

I understand the contest, but those first few pages were a bit of a nightmare to get through.

Day 0 and he seems to be trying too hard to find something on someone.

Okay, so I just saw that there may be another option for me to vote. Niju. She has posted ONCE all game (Day 0). I know it's early and Niju is a quiet player. She usually posts only once a day. However, its easy for me to tell the difference between her quiet, helpful, civ playstyle and her quiet, laying low, baddie playstyle. I will keep this in mind if I can get back here before EoD. For now, sig, though.

Do you? But really, I considered going with what I keep saying I'm going to do every game beginning and go after a super-low poster. Problem is, that happens to be me yet again.

These votes are stupid spread out, and among people I believe have either been simply playful, or really haven't done anything ping-worthy, IMO. I think most very strange behavior Day 1 is avoided by baddies, and the types of things people are voting for (e.g., sig's theorizing, although I'll admit I had to tear myself from a vote for him because temptation but also not wanting to kill the guy AGAIN on Day 1; Scotty's "I haven't looked at my role card!" [because what reason is there for saying this as a baddie? I hope I don't eat my words]) fall into that category of "Why would someone do this Day 1 as a baddie?" I'm not saying it wouldn't happen and hasn't happened, but I'm saying it's not likely, and I avoid voting like that. Really, I found this post by Quin to be subtle, yet suspect:

This argument confuses me. I'd rather make the argument sig is making against eloh against SVS instead. The fact that the Eloh argument has escalated to where it is just feels extremely 'meh' to me.

Okay I know it is verrrrry early day 0 but already two things have stood out to me.

Yay! This looks like a super complex set up with the items. I have been mega busy recently with RL, but I was looking forward to this.

Um, since info on the poll is confirmed, I think we should be clear on why we are voting as we do. I am choosing Ice Cream Jerky since, A~ It does not have meat in it. And B~ I have had that freeze dried "space astronaut" ice cream, and it was acceptable. Most of this except maybe Fruit Loop Quesadilla,sounds awful.

Also never saw this if that makes a diff re options.

You mafia.....?

And SVS response.

OMG, no lol.

I find it to be very strange.


This seems like an attempt by Eloh to look townie and make it seem like she doesn't have information while she really does.

This game is going to be great! All of those options sound amazing/revolting, so I'll have to mull it over.

Host: Does anyone have info on this poll?

not me

In other news, I have strong town reads for Epi, Wilgy and Elohcin. I'll elaborate on that later.

He did somewhat elaborate later on the suspicion of SVS, but that's not really what I'm pointing out. What gets me is why he would choose to point out three names and give them "strong town reads" on Day 1, claiming to explain later. Why do this? Buddying? Trying to appear like he's contributing? And why put a target on them? Going back, there isn't really a big reason to pick these three out of the bunch for "strong" town reads. Nah. This is weird. I know it's nitpicky, but it does kind of go with my desire to pick someone quiet(ish), yet subtle, for Day 1, instead of someone who stands out. Gonna vote Quin.

Spoiler: show

Lol. Sorry sig. I was tempted by the tie, and I think it's silly to vote off Scotty because he was being silly about his role card.

Question...

I will be voting for matt tomorrow.

Does this mean you know you won't be lynched today?

At the very least I can entertain the idea of him being indie, or Yang hiding behind the security of his lynch immunity. But he's not bad. My vote today will be going to whoever best fits the criteria of a) posting with the intention of being removed from the lynch poll on Day 1 & b) voting Scotty based entirely on his 'I haven't checked his role card yet' nonsense.

Question/s: What's the deal with the engagement ring? From the way I read it, Scotty used it on Russ and as a result Russ became Scotty's personal meatshield? is that right?


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[BigDamnHero]

Question/s: What's the deal with the engagement ring? From the way I read it, Scotty used it on Russ and as a result Russ became Scotty's personal meatshield? is that right?

That's how I read it.

Night 2 - Did You Hear About Pluto?

Russtifinko has been lynched in place of Scotty, who gave him an engagement ring. He was Buzz McNab.

@Hosts...is it possible to clarify the personal prono8ns here

[sig]

Hey sorry about my inactivity this weekend, I went white water rafting with my cousin then back to his house and i wasn't in the state of mind to post. :P

and I was horribly busy today getting uni stuff.

I'll catch up now, but lynching me would be dumb and would get us no information, we should lynhc anyone saying that.

[Spacedaisy]

Question/s: What's the deal with the engagement ring? From the way I read it, Scotty used it on Russ and as a result Russ became Scotty's personal meatshield? is that right?

That's how I read it.

Night 2 - Did You Hear About Pluto?

Russtifinko has been lynched in place of Scotty, Scotty gave Russtifinko an engagement ring. Russtifinko was Buzz McNab.

@Hosts...is it possible to clarify the personal prono8ns here

[Russtifinko]

Can we PLEASE talk about someone else today? I mean you think I'm bad. Hear you loud and clear.
But No matter my alignment, you'll look at today and go "wow! I learned nothing! Literally everyone was criticizing Scotty, and now we have to look to start the game over since the entire fucking game has been "I think Scotty is bad because ___". It might as well be Day 0 again.

I agree with this completely.

Matt's gone really silent, and I'm still not sure if any/all of Wilgy's posts this game have been serious or not. I've gotten the feeling that he's "helping", but in a tongue-in-cheek way. Anyone have thoughts on that? I've only ever played with him once, and we were baddie teammates. What's his civ MO?

We'll Matt WAS incarcerated until today...but I'd like to get a read from his perspective since he's only been able to sit back and watch how things have transpired.

Right! Thanks for the reminder.

@HOSTS Did anyone crack the safe last night? (I forgot to send in my numbers )
If no one did, can we try again tonight?

Linki: if I get mislynched, you "saved" me for all intents and purposes, making civ look bad. Then, if sit gets mislynched (if he is good), then no one can blame you for casting your vote on him in that situation, because you 'didn't think I was bad', and you don't get heat for it.

This might be the first thing you've said that makes sense. Although that being said, I still don't think Epig is bad at this point in time.

So you think sig getting lynched would give us the most info? Or do you think it is someone else?

Because for this lynch, I still think you dying is the best bet to get the best intel possible. But if you can convince me that someone else would be more worthwhile, then I am willing to listen.

Wait, so you understood this? This is literally the least comprehensible thing I've read all game haha. It's about Epi?

Also, lynching sig would be a TERRIBLE idea.

I've feel like I've played enough games where my actions as a civ have come across in the most suspicious way possible to know when I see it in other people. I won't vote for Scotty today.

I like his insistence on trying to make people talk about other things. He asked a few times, but was still keen on arguing his case, which tells me that he's more likely to be a civvie attempting to uncover information than a baddie trying to hide behind a deflection strategy.

His 'I haven't checked my role card yet huehuehue' thing looks objectively suspicious on the surface, but what motivation does a baddie have to say that? There is absolutely no advantage in a baddie Scotty starting off his game in the way he did.

The lynch train that formed on him also makes me think he's civ. I don't see a situation where that bandwagon could get going that quickly and not have baddies jump on. For the sake of digging up as much as I can, here are a few defences here by nijuukujou and Matt, but I can't accuse either of them of saving Scotty in these posts:

Spoiler: show

Thread, don't be a nightmare to read here.

I understand the contest, but those first few pages were a bit of a nightmare to get through.

Day 0 and he seems to be trying too hard to find something on someone.

Okay, so I just saw that there may be another option for me to vote. Niju. She has posted ONCE all game (Day 0). I know it's early and Niju is a quiet player. She usually posts only once a day. However, its easy for me to tell the difference between her quiet, helpful, civ playstyle and her quiet, laying low, baddie playstyle. I will keep this in mind if I can get back here before EoD. For now, sig, though.

Do you? But really, I considered going with what I keep saying I'm going to do every game beginning and go after a super-low poster. Problem is, that happens to be me yet again.

These votes are stupid spread out, and among people I believe have either been simply playful, or really haven't done anything ping-worthy, IMO. I think most very strange behavior Day 1 is avoided by baddies, and the types of things people are voting for (e.g., sig's theorizing, although I'll admit I had to tear myself from a vote for him because temptation but also not wanting to kill the guy AGAIN on Day 1; Scotty's "I haven't looked at my role card!" [because what reason is there for saying this as a baddie? I hope I don't eat my words]) fall into that category of "Why would someone do this Day 1 as a baddie?" I'm not saying it wouldn't happen and hasn't happened, but I'm saying it's not likely, and I avoid voting like that. Really, I found this post by Quin to be subtle, yet suspect:

This argument confuses me. I'd rather make the argument sig is making against eloh against SVS instead. The fact that the Eloh argument has escalated to where it is just feels extremely 'meh' to me.

Okay I know it is verrrrry early day 0 but already two things have stood out to me.

Yay! This looks like a super complex set up with the items. I have been mega busy recently with RL, but I was looking forward to this.

Um, since info on the poll is confirmed, I think we should be clear on why we are voting as we do. I am choosing Ice Cream Jerky since, A~ It does not have meat in it. And B~ I have had that freeze dried "space astronaut" ice cream, and it was acceptable. Most of this except maybe Fruit Loop Quesadilla,sounds awful.

Also never saw this if that makes a diff re options.

You mafia.....?

And SVS response.

OMG, no lol.

I find it to be very strange.


This seems like an attempt by Eloh to look townie and make it seem like she doesn't have information while she really does.

This game is going to be great! All of those options sound amazing/revolting, so I'll have to mull it over.

Host: Does anyone have info on this poll?

not me

In other news, I have strong town reads for Epi, Wilgy and Elohcin. I'll elaborate on that later.

He did somewhat elaborate later on the suspicion of SVS, but that's not really what I'm pointing out. What gets me is why he would choose to point out three names and give them "strong town reads" on Day 1, claiming to explain later. Why do this? Buddying? Trying to appear like he's contributing? And why put a target on them? Going back, there isn't really a big reason to pick these three out of the bunch for "strong" town reads. Nah. This is weird. I know it's nitpicky, but it does kind of go with my desire to pick someone quiet(ish), yet subtle, for Day 1, instead of someone who stands out. Gonna vote Quin.

Spoiler: show

Lol. Sorry sig. I was tempted by the tie, and I think it's silly to vote off Scotty because he was being silly about his role card.

Question...

I will be voting for matt tomorrow.

Does this mean you know you won't be lynched today?

At the very least I can entertain the idea of him being indie, or Yang hiding behind the security of his lynch immunity. But he's not bad. My vote today will be going to whoever best fits the criteria of a) posting with the intention of being removed from the lynch poll on Day 1 & b) voting Scotty based entirely on his 'I haven't checked his role card yet' nonsense.

Question/s: What's the deal with the engagement ring? From the way I read it, Scotty used it on Russ and as a result Russ became Scotty's personal meatshield? is that right?


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I may or may not be allowed to comment on Russti 1.0's dealings (not sure yet). However, Russti 2.0 agrees that the post does indeed read that way.

[sig]

So I don;t get this, Scotty is saying we should lynhc me to see if I'm bad and then when I flip good Russ vote would make sense? That makes no sense.


Also I don't think Epi was trying to save anyone I think Matt was.

[sig]

Even if you think I'm bad for how I've played up until now, can we please keep talking about other alternatives, so its not the Scotty show? I don't even get principal pay for my role.

What do we think about DFaraday being killed by The YinYang twins?

This tells me that Shawn either sucks at solving riddles or the riddle was just too hard. Yin and Yang might be pretty tricksy people that are good with puzzles and riddles.

I think DFaraday was an odd choice and that it was probably one that no one could trace back to the killers.


hey @Matt! Welcome back, I assume. Do you have any thoughts since being thrown in jail?

Why are you going on about YinYang? Are you one of them?

[sig]

One of the earliest reasons civilians get hosed is the ever-present assumption that someone was being saved.

Russ, explain to me why I would save Scotty Day 1 only to turn against him Day 2. Detail your theory as much as you can. What makes it "probable" that Scotty was saved?

What happens when saves do occur early though? I saved IAWY very early as mafia and nobody ever suspected it since it was so early.

[Scotty]

@Epi you seriously don't understand that logic? I can't think of how to explain it further.

I can't get to the logic because I can't get passed the grammar and spelling. I really don't know what you're trying to say.

I don't think my grammar was bad. But I do notice that I misspelled "sig" twice. Forgive me.
Even with that, I think you are being purposefully naive about the logic but whatever.

Even if you think I'm bad for how I've played up until now, can we please keep talking about other alternatives, so its not the Scotty show? I don't even get principal pay for my role.

What do we think about DFaraday being killed by The YinYang twins?

This tells me that Shawn either sucks at solving riddles or the riddle was just too hard. Yin and Yang might be pretty tricksy people that are good with puzzles and riddles.

I think DFaraday was an odd choice and that it was probably one that no one could trace back to the killers.


hey @Matt! Welcome back, I assume. Do you have any thoughts since being thrown in jail?

Why are you going on about YinYang? Are you one of them?

It was an honest question

[sig]

Is it though? Since your post does take a certain strange tone, almost like your teasing what your role is like third party people are prone to do. I do consider ying/yang more of a negative independent team than a mafia team.

[Epignosis]

One of the earliest reasons civilians get hosed is the ever-present assumption that someone was being saved.

Russ, explain to me why I would save Scotty Day 1 only to turn against him Day 2. Detail your theory as much as you can. What makes it "probable" that Scotty was saved?

What happens when saves do occur early though? I saved IAWY very early as mafia and nobody ever suspected it since it was so early.

It's rare. Very few people are willing / online and able to save their teammates Day 1. My point was that people are swift to automatically believe someone was being saved, when in terms of what is probable (the root Russ used), two civilians were on the verge of being lynched. It's what generates attention and conversation.

To answer your question, what happens is that civilians have to decide if there was a save going on the old fashioned way. Asking questions, looking for contradictions and connections, and examining the context. But that isn't what usually happens. What usually happens is people see votes at the end of the day and A HA GOTCHA!

Think about this. If the votes had gone the other way, and Scotty got lynched and was shown to be civilian, I would be accused of saving you. Would I not?

[Epignosis]

Also, lynching sig would be a TERRIBLE idea.

You don't say.

[sig]

Also, lynching sig would be a TERRIBLE idea.

You don't say.

Yes it would, meanies.

[Russtifinko]

Also, lynching sig would be a TERRIBLE idea.

You don't say.

Hey, BWT was thinking about it, so it seemed worth reiterating.

[Epignosis]

sig gets bad marks in sarcasm and tags.

[sig]

sig gets bad marks in sarcasm and tags.

It could've been worse.

[Epignosis]

I'm going to vote in the morning. My vote will go to either Scotty or Russtifinko. Probably the latter. His recent posts are not truth-seeking but rather narrative-selling.

[birdwithteeth11]

@HOSTS Did anyone crack the safe last night? (I forgot to send in my numbers )
If no one did, can we try again tonight?

Linki: if I get mislynched, you "saved" me for all intents and purposes, making civ look bad. Then, if sit gets mislynched (if he is good), then no one can blame you for casting your vote on him in that situation, because you 'didn't think I was bad', and you don't get heat for it.

This might be the first thing you've said that makes sense. Although that being said, I still don't think Epig is bad at this point in time.

So you think sig getting lynched would give us the most info? Or do you think it is someone else?

Because for this lynch, I still think you dying is the best bet to get the best intel possible. But if you can convince me that someone else would be more worthwhile, then I am willing to listen.

Wait, so you understood this? This is literally the least comprehensible thing I've read all game haha. It's about Epi?

Also, lynching sig would be a TERRIBLE idea.

I understood it from the point of that, while I think Scotty is bad and he should be lynched today, I don't think it is worthwhile to have tunnel vision and potentially block out other suspects and try to discuss other players besides just Scotty today.

I don't necessarily agree with Scotty about Epig. Epig still looks pretty civvie to me, and I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe Epig is bad at this point.

I do agree that lynching sig would be a terrible idea though. He'd probably be the worst person we could lynch at this point.

[birdwithteeth11]

Also, lynching sig would be a TERRIBLE idea.

You don't say.

Hey, BWT was thinking about it, so it seemed worth reiterating.

I was just asking him if he thinks we would get more information from a sig lynch or from lynching someone else.

I also stated I would be willing to listen (albeit highly unlikely) to the idea of lynching someone else if I could be convinced (also highly unlikely) by Scotty that someone other than him dying today would tell us more about potential alignments.

Sorry if I didn't clarify that at the time and it made you think I would be in favor of lynching sig. I'm not.

[birdwithteeth11]

I'm going to vote in the morning. My vote will go to either Scotty or Russtifinko. Probably the latter. His recent posts are not truth-seeking but rather narrative-selling.

I am curious to see how you think he is narrative-selling. Because I'm not seeing it at all.

[Epignosis]

I'm going to vote in the morning. My vote will go to either Scotty or Russtifinko. Probably the latter. His recent posts are not truth-seeking but rather narrative-selling.

I am curious to see how you think he is narrative-selling. Because I'm not seeing it at all.

Russ is selling the narrative that Scotty and Matt and I are linked, and that Scotty needs to be lynched for him to gain information about us.

[Scotty]

So I don;t get this, Scotty is saying we should lynhc me to see if I'm bad and then when I flip good Russ vote would make sense? That makes no sense.


Also I don't think Epi was trying to save anyone I think Matt was.

I didn't say I wanted to lynch you. I don't know where you got that from. I've been pretty adamant that I do not want to be lynched.

Is it though? Since your post does take a certain strange tone, almost like your teasing what your role is like third party people are prone to do. I do consider ying/yang more of a negative independent team than a mafia team.

WIFOM alert: why would I tease a 3rd party role that freaking kills every day? Nah man.

If you think anyone was trying to save anyone, it would be me. They both gave you two votes to tie the vote. So...you think I'm bad? Who else would they have "saved" 20 minutes before EoD?

[Scotty]

I've feel like I've played enough games where my actions as a civ have come across in the most suspicious way possible to know when I see it in other people. I won't vote for Scotty today.

I like his insistence on trying to make people talk about other things. He asked a few times, but was still keen on arguing his case, which tells me that he's more likely to be a civvie attempting to uncover information than a baddie trying to hide behind a deflection strategy.

His 'I haven't checked my role card yet huehuehue' thing looks objectively suspicious on the surface, but what motivation does a baddie have to say that? There is absolutely no advantage in a baddie Scotty starting off his game in the way he did.

The lynch train that formed on him also makes me think he's civ. I don't see a situation where that bandwagon could get going that quickly and not have baddies jump on. For the sake of digging up as much as I can, here are a few defences here by nijuukujou and Matt, but I can't accuse either of them of saving Scotty in these posts:

Spoiler: show

Thread, don't be a nightmare to read here.

I understand the contest, but those first few pages were a bit of a nightmare to get through.

Day 0 and he seems to be trying too hard to find something on someone.

Okay, so I just saw that there may be another option for me to vote. Niju. She has posted ONCE all game (Day 0). I know it's early and Niju is a quiet player. She usually posts only once a day. However, its easy for me to tell the difference between her quiet, helpful, civ playstyle and her quiet, laying low, baddie playstyle. I will keep this in mind if I can get back here before EoD. For now, sig, though.

Do you? But really, I considered going with what I keep saying I'm going to do every game beginning and go after a super-low poster. Problem is, that happens to be me yet again.

These votes are stupid spread out, and among people I believe have either been simply playful, or really haven't done anything ping-worthy, IMO. I think most very strange behavior Day 1 is avoided by baddies, and the types of things people are voting for (e.g., sig's theorizing, although I'll admit I had to tear myself from a vote for him because temptation but also not wanting to kill the guy AGAIN on Day 1; Scotty's "I haven't looked at my role card!" [because what reason is there for saying this as a baddie? I hope I don't eat my words]) fall into that category of "Why would someone do this Day 1 as a baddie?" I'm not saying it wouldn't happen and hasn't happened, but I'm saying it's not likely, and I avoid voting like that. Really, I found this post by Quin to be subtle, yet suspect:

This argument confuses me. I'd rather make the argument sig is making against eloh against SVS instead. The fact that the Eloh argument has escalated to where it is just feels extremely 'meh' to me.

Okay I know it is verrrrry early day 0 but already two things have stood out to me.

Yay! This looks like a super complex set up with the items. I have been mega busy recently with RL, but I was looking forward to this.

Um, since info on the poll is confirmed, I think we should be clear on why we are voting as we do. I am choosing Ice Cream Jerky since, A~ It does not have meat in it. And B~ I have had that freeze dried "space astronaut" ice cream, and it was acceptable. Most of this except maybe Fruit Loop Quesadilla,sounds awful.

Also never saw this if that makes a diff re options.

You mafia.....?

And SVS response.

OMG, no lol.

I find it to be very strange.


This seems like an attempt by Eloh to look townie and make it seem like she doesn't have information while she really does.

This game is going to be great! All of those options sound amazing/revolting, so I'll have to mull it over.

Host: Does anyone have info on this poll?

not me

In other news, I have strong town reads for Epi, Wilgy and Elohcin. I'll elaborate on that later.

He did somewhat elaborate later on the suspicion of SVS, but that's not really what I'm pointing out. What gets me is why he would choose to point out three names and give them "strong town reads" on Day 1, claiming to explain later. Why do this? Buddying? Trying to appear like he's contributing? And why put a target on them? Going back, there isn't really a big reason to pick these three out of the bunch for "strong" town reads. Nah. This is weird. I know it's nitpicky, but it does kind of go with my desire to pick someone quiet(ish), yet subtle, for Day 1, instead of someone who stands out. Gonna vote Quin.

Spoiler: show

Lol. Sorry sig. I was tempted by the tie, and I think it's silly to vote off Scotty because he was being silly about his role card.

Question...

I will be voting for matt tomorrow.

Does this mean you know you won't be lynched today?

At the very least I can entertain the idea of him being indie, or Yang hiding behind the security of his lynch immunity. But he's not bad. My vote today will be going to whoever best fits the criteria of a) posting with the intention of being removed from the lynch poll on Day 1 & b) voting Scotty based entirely on his 'I haven't checked his role card yet' nonsense.

Question/s: What's the deal with the engagement ring? From the way I read it, Scotty used it on Russ and as a result Russ became Scotty's personal meatshield? is that right?


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"But he's not bad"
Who? Me? Yang? I think Yang is bad. Hell, MP even referred to the Yin/Yang pairing as a Mafia team.
I see you voted LoRab. Sup?

I'd like to think of Russ 1.0 as my wife.

You bring up a good point though- TH (Russ 2.0) wanted to be arrested last night. Either he a) wanted a nefarious item confiscated or b) wanted to be removed from the poll. I can see no other reason for wanting to be arrested.


Would like to hear from timmer, who led the charge against me yesterday, and INH for jumping the shark as well. Plus M(att)IA.

[Scotty]

Oh nm INH is arrested.

I could vote Russ 2.0 just based on TH's behavior yesterday of asking to be arrested. It's not like he had alot of traction for a lynch today.

Russ 2.0: what do you make of your predecessor's desire to be arrested last night?

[SokothQultuq]

Hey, I want to apologize for my absence. I may be unable to post for a day or two. I've got some things going on here. I do apologize family comes first.

[SokothQultuq]

Hey, I want to apologize for my absence. I may be unable to post for a day or two. I've got some things going on here. I do apologize family comes first.

[timmer]

So sorry guys the camp where I'm staying has no satellite coverage I'm home for 24 hours for a shift so I will catch up once my phone charges

[DFaraday]

I'm really not sold on the Scotty case, so I'd like to discuss other things. For instance:

What does everyone think of those hack Yin Yangs that killed original me?

[BigDamnHero]

I'm really not sold on the Scotty case, so I'd like to discuss other things. For instance:

What does everyone think of those hack Yin Yangs that killed original me?

Well...they suck...and could be just about anyone (though one theory is sig is one of them due to the D1 results). Did you have anything more specific you wanted to discuss about them or did you just want to draw attention away from Scotty? Cuz if you had any insight into who you & yang could be, I'm sure we'd ALL like to hear it...otherwise, speculation on their identities would be pretty fruitless.

[Russtifinko]

I'm going to vote in the morning. My vote will go to either Scotty or Russtifinko. Probably the latter. His recent posts are not truth-seeking but rather narrative-selling.

I am curious to see how you think he is narrative-selling. Because I'm not seeing it at all.

Russ is selling the narrative that Scotty and Matt and I are linked, and that Scotty needs to be lynched for him to gain information about us.

You're conflating two points I've made here, which is probably my fault for juxtaposing them. I do think that at least one of you or Matt are likely linked to Scotty, but that's separate from the point that Scotty is almost certainly bad. What civ, when he's headed for a lynch, throws someone whom he has previously not suspected in the way of lynch when he has listed 3-4 people he does suspect?

That's really the only salient fact I need to be confident Scotty is bad, although his posting behavior throughout the game is dubious at best. That case has nothing whatsoever do to with you or Matt.

Now, when Scotty does flip bad, then and only then will it be worthwhile revisiting my second point.

[Russtifinko]

Oh nm INH is arrested.

I could vote Russ 2.0 just based on TH's behavior yesterday of asking to be arrested. It's not like he had alot of traction for a lynch today.

Russ 2.0: what do you make of your predecessor's desire to be arrested last night?

Well, being off the poll is always nice. TH was also replaced because of "host error", so maybe it had something to do with that?

Nice NO U, by the way. You're doing a decent job of pretending you have reasons for wanting me dead besides that I want you dead.

[Scotty]

I'm going to vote in the morning. My vote will go to either Scotty or Russtifinko. Probably the latter. His recent posts are not truth-seeking but rather narrative-selling.

I am curious to see how you think he is narrative-selling. Because I'm not seeing it at all.

Russ is selling the narrative that Scotty and Matt and I are linked, and that Scotty needs to be lynched for him to gain information about us.

You're conflating two points I've made here, which is probably my fault for juxtaposing them. I do think that at least one of you or Matt are likely linked to Scotty, but that's separate from the point that Scotty is almost certainly bad. What civ, when he's headed for a lynch, throws someone whom he has previously not suspected in the way of lynch when he has listed 3-4 people he does suspect?

That's really the only salient fact I need to be confident Scotty is bad, although his posting behavior throughout the game is dubious at best. That case has nothing whatsoever do to with you or Matt.

Now, when Scotty does flip bad, then and only then will it be worthwhile revisiting my second point.

Ironically, this information makes me trust you more, even if you don't trust me. I completely understand your viewpoint and how you wouldn't understand or trust my intentions, though I again say they were not nefarious. All I can say is that it was a shotgun wedding. Take that how you will.

Oh nm INH is arrested.

I could vote Russ 2.0 just based on TH's behavior yesterday of asking to be arrested. It's not like he had alot of traction for a lynch today.

Russ 2.0: what do you make of your predecessor's desire to be arrested last night?

Well, being off the poll is always nice. TH was also replaced because of "host error", so maybe it had something to do with that?

Nice NO U, by the way. You're doing a decent job of pretending you have reasons for wanting me dead besides that I want you dead.

It's not technically a NO U, and again I do not suspect you any more. Your viewpoint is rather transient and makes sense to me.

[Scotty]

By the way. I may have just replaced in, but I'm leaving for a camping trip soon and won't be back until late Sunday. Peace out you hooligans!

Hey! It's now Monday and I have voted you! What say you, you groundhog?

Current suspect list:
MM, because I wasn't satisfied with Dom's posts early on, and MM is doing nothing to make me feel better about that role.
Epi, as previously stated.
Matt.

Matt matt matt.

Lol. I try to save you, Scotty, and you tell the town to look my way.

Blah.

Well, Matt blatantly says he saved me, and even deflects his role in the matter away right after this:

Oh, and even tho it was Epi who steered this lynch mostly with his last minute vote, you're welcome Scotty.

This is the same thing as Epi, except he's much more upfront about it, like it's just a thing he's trying, like a goatee or ruffled collars.

Hmmm

After doing some detective work, I believe sig is A-okay. Or at the very least, he's not Yin or Yang.

Russ - I have no problem taking credit for the lynch result, but I acknowledge that it would've never gone down like that had I not seen a chance to save Scotty after Epi's vote.

Lol @ Russ calling other votes lazy. Do you even think I'm bad Russ?

Why is sig "A-okay"? His detective work was in his head, and he disregards the aspect that sig VERY WELL could be Yang.

And he "has no problem" taking credit, except that he literally just tried to pass off the credit like it was nbh. If Epi hadnt voted last second, he would've kept his vote on LoRab? Nah, I doubt this. Like, why "save" me anyway? It's not like I was the shining beacon of civness on Day 1, according to some people.

Blech this whole thing reeks and I didn't see it before. I think of the Matt/Epi debacle on day 1, Matt looks slightly more suspicious than Epi, and I am voting for him.

I also suspect that Russ 2.0 may be Ying, for no substantive reason at all

[Scotty]

I'm really not sold on the Scotty case, so I'd like to discuss other things. For instance:

What does everyone think of those hack Yin Yangs that killed original me?

I think its hard to draw any conclusions from that death, which is exactly what Yin and Yang probably want. DF 1.0 was gunning for me most of his time alive, so the only person to look to is me.

[Scotty]

Oh nm INH is arrested.

I could vote Russ 2.0 just based on TH's behavior yesterday of asking to be arrested. It's not like he had alot of traction for a lynch today.

Russ 2.0: what do you make of your predecessor's desire to be arrested last night?

Well, being off the poll is always nice. TH was also replaced because of "host error", so maybe it had something to do with that?

Nice NO U, by the way. You're doing a decent job of pretending you have reasons for wanting me dead besides that I want you dead.

Which of the following do you think is more likely? That sig
a) is Shawn?
b) is Yang?
c) was saved by the Police Chief, who would not have known sig's alignment on Day 1?
d) saved by an item?
or e)

[Scotty]

I'm playing this game and will be able to pick up and actually read the thread Friday, in case anyone is asking me anything.... ?????

Yeah, I'll ask you something:
where r u. You said you'd catch up, and I see you posted in another game, so I know you're still there somewhere.

Adding you to my suspect pool, because honestly I forgot you were even playing this game.

rabbits and marmots and Matts, oh my!!! (and epi)

[DFaraday]

I'm really not sold on the Scotty case, so I'd like to discuss other things. For instance:

What does everyone think of those hack Yin Yangs that killed original me?

Well...they suck...and could be just about anyone (though one theory is sig is one of them due to the D1 results). Did you have anything more specific you wanted to discuss about them or did you just want to draw attention away from Scotty? Cuz if you had any insight into who you & yang could be, I'm sure we'd ALL like to hear it...otherwise, speculation on their identities would be pretty fruitless.

I agree with whoever speculated that they have been fairly active players, and that's why they targeted someone who couldn't be traced back to them. I think it's quite plausible that Sig is one of them, but if so, we can't do anything about him for the time being.

[DFaraday]

MM, because I wasn't satisfied with Dom's posts early on, and MM is doing nothing to make me feel better about that role.

Why do you suspect him again? I never noticed anything suspicious from Dom.

[Scotty]

MM, because I wasn't satisfied with Dom's posts early on, and MM is doing nothing to make me feel better about that role.

Why do you suspect him again? I never noticed anything suspicious from Dom.

Well, for one, Dom didn't vote in Day 1. His posts didn't say anything of note, and actually I felt like he used the "Don't be a _____" just for the sake of using it to get that prize. He calls Elo good, which any joe blo can do, and was breathing down sig's back for a while but not doing anything about it.

And then MM comes in, does 3 circles in the corner, takes a poop on me and goes camping. I don't think he's done anything to dissuade me from suspecting my first day suspicion.

[DrWilgy]

The voice in my head tells me Marmot friend is bad. GET HIM!!!

[Matt]

Sorry peeps, I haven't been following along that much. Going to vote Scotty cuz of the craziness that transpired last lynch.

Peace

[Scotty]

Sorry peeps, I haven't been following along that much. Going to vote Scotty cuz of the craziness that transpired last lynch.

Peace

wait. wat.

that's what you have to say after 2 days without voting or content?

"Not following along" and yet you drop a vote on me for the "craziness" of last lynch? So you ARE following along, and you think the last runaway train on me was crazy?


This guy is bad.

[Scotty]

@HOSTS

This Night 1 post:

No one has been killed by the Crooked Cops.

Matt has been arrested by Juliet O'Hara.

It is now Day 2. You have 48 hours to lynch someone. Good luck!

is different from this night 2 post:

????? has survived a kill attempt by the Crooked Cops

Juliet has released Matt and arrested insertnamehere. He will be removed from the poll and cannot vote, post or use his ability. Since Buzz has been killed, arrested players will not lose their items.

Can you confirm that this means a kill was not attempted on Night 1?

[BigDamnHero]

Sorry peeps, I haven't been following along that much. Going to vote Scotty cuz of the craziness that transpired last lynch.

Peace

wait. wat.

that's what you have to say after 2 days without voting or content?

"Not following along" and yet you drop a vote on me for the "craziness" of last lynch? So you ARE following along, and you think the last runaway train on me was crazy?


This guy is bad.

I'll agree with you on this one...multiple people asking to hear from Matt and then he just drive-by votes...definitely doesn't give me the warm fuzzies!