Psych Mafia [END]

[BigDamnHero]

We suck civs

[BigDamnHero]

I am, of course, speaking to the ONE of you who is left besides me...

[Epignosis]

This lynch poll is BS by the way. I already voted because I doubt Epi will be able to change my mind on Russ' alignment.

I'd rather lynch someone I have little to no impression of (DFaraday) than the only other person who's calling Epi out on his shit.

And "ha ha" to Epi's latest round of smug condescension and his pissing contest with me and Russ.

Where the hell is Epi in all this? Did he decide to just go to the Winchester, have a pint, and wait for all this to blow over?

Or does he not care about the outcome because he knows DF being lynched will help him?

For what it's worth, I think there's a damn good chance that DF's civ. I'm not as sure of his alignment as I am of Russ' but I still really resent this situation for making us choose between these two.

That's why Epi's absence really grinds my gears. It's like he knows DF's going to flip civ, so he's biding his time so he can sail in Night 7 on a horse of "I told you so" style moral superiority, and an "if DF is civ, Russ must be bad" case.

He doesn't need to waste time attacking Russ because it's better for his game if DF's lynched this round. That way he can just waltz into another easy civ lynch Day 8.

Lynch this windbag. He puts the onus of persuasion on me, not himself, about Russ' alignment. What's the basis for that? They are teammates. Then he dials back about DF being a civilian. After that, he gets pissed at me (the guy he's accusing of lynching too many civilians) for not being around.

[BigDamnHero]

I'm all but convinced that epi is yang. He's been a mouthpiece all game because he knows no matter how many cases false were otherwise he builds he can't be Lynch. And given the in ineptitude this of the crookes cops, he didn't have a fear of being night killed. Also, if young and yang are responsible for doing their own riddles, it would go a long way to explain why Sean was able to solve so few of them. And it's our own fault for letting him lead us around like a puppy on a leash of game long. Well played sir!

[BigDamnHero]

INH, if you're a civ, gimme a high five sometime tonight.

[Russtifinko]

Geez, so it was 2 civs on that poll...brutal.

BDH, who do you most feel like spoiling? haha

[Elohcin]

Geez, so it was 2 civs on that poll...brutal.

BDH, who do you most feel like spoiling? haha

I can't wait to read end game and see the ins and outs of all the items. It had to be an item in the hands of a baddie, or I guess possibly a misguided civ.

Now, b/c we are still playing, that must mean that civs still have a chance, right?

[BigDamnHero]

Geez, so it was 2 civs on that poll...brutal.

BDH, who do you most feel like spoiling? haha

I can't wait to read end game and see the ins and outs of all the items. It had to be an item in the hands of a baddie, or I guess possibly a misguided civ.

Now, b/c we are still playing, that must mean that civs still have a chance, right?

...only if one of the items is a bag of magic beans leading to a castle in the sky where a giant lives that can squash both baddie teams in one fell swoop.

@Russ: I'm just proud that I'll make it as one of the last civs standing.

[Russtifinko]

Geez, so it was 2 civs on that poll...brutal.

BDH, who do you most feel like spoiling? haha

I can't wait to read end game and see the ins and outs of all the items. It had to be an item in the hands of a baddie, or I guess possibly a misguided civ.

Now, b/c we are still playing, that must mean that civs still have a chance, right?

...only if one of the items is a bag of magic beans leading to a castle in the sky where a giant lives that can squash both baddie teams in one fell swoop.

@Russ: I'm just proud that I'll make it as one of the last civs standing.

Idk Elo....may just mean that Daisy isn't sure WHICH baddie team will win yet. Despereaux may also still be tryign to complete his win con.

BDH, I wish I could get some pride from that - we got toasted this game haha.

[Tangrowth]

Day 7

Who canceled our star's career?

Poll ended at Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:36:48 pm


DFaraday
5
insertnamehere (3), Russtifinko (7), timmer (11), birdwithteeth11 (12), Elohcin (13) 33%
Russtifinko 2.0
3
DFaraday (9), BigDamnHero (14), Epignosis (15) 20%
Steve Franks (hosts, deadies, non-players)
7
Spacedaisy (1), MovingPictures07 (2), Scotty (4), Quin (5), sig (6), LoRab (8), JaggedJimmyJay (10) 47%
Total votes : 15

[Spacedaisy]

Day 8 - What Took You So Long?

"Look, these Yin & Yang yahoos are going to be the death of us if we don't act," Jack banged his fist on the counter.

He and Jerry had met up at the gun range. They were getting concerned that they might be caught. Or worse yet, that the serial killing duo might take them out.

"We have to be careful how we do this. I mean we have to be smarter than the current young bucks at the SBPD if we're going to figure out who it is. Plus we have to be careful not to give ourselves away in the process," Jerry remarked thoughtfully.

Jack grinned a bit, "I think I've got it figured out already. I say we strike tonight."

A short while later, a woman was in her kitchen cooking a nice roast for herself. She pulled it out of the oven and took a deep sniff, savoring the scent. She set it on the counter and sliced some up, putting it on a plate next to a pile of delicious mashed potatoes. She set it on the table and poured herself a nice glass of wine. Settling down at the table she spread a white linen napkin over her lap and then scooted her chair up to the table. Just as she stuck her fork in a piece of the meat, she felt the cold barrel of a gun pressed into the back of her head.

"What took you so long?" Those were her last words before someone put a bullet in her brain.

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Timmer has been killed by the Crooked Cops. He was Mr. Yang.

The safe was cracked last night and the combination has been reset for tomorrow night. The person(s) who cracked it have been notified. You now have 48 hours to lynch someone. Good luck!

[Epignosis]

I am voting birdwithteeth11.

[BigDamnHero]

Okay baddies, you've pissed off the wrong Civ and now I'm coming for ya!

[insertnamehere]

BIH Timmer.

Sorry that I wasn't around last night, I'll probably post a wall of stuff tomorrow afternoon addressing everything.

But for now...

You gonna explain that vote Epig?

[Epignosis]

BIH Timmer.

Sorry that I wasn't around last night, I'll probably post a wall of stuff tomorrow afternoon addressing everything.

But for now...

You gonna explain that vote Epig?

No.

[insertnamehere]

BIH Timmer.

Sorry that I wasn't around last night, I'll probably post a wall of stuff tomorrow afternoon addressing everything.

But for now...

You gonna explain that vote Epig?

No.

Cool.

*votes Epignosis*

[Epignosis]

BDH, I strongly recommend lynching Russtifinko. You, Elohcin, and birdwithteeth11 should all vote there.

[Russtifinko]

What is Epi playing at?

Note that he doesn'tsay I'm bad, just that he recommends lynching me. He clearly seems to be bad, which, for now, is good enough for me. *votes Epi* Open to discussion on why voting him wouldn't be optimal and who would be good to lynch instead.

Don't really see myself voting BDH or INH today, though.

[Epignosis]

What is Epi playing at?

Note that he doesn'tsay I'm bad, just that he recommends lynching me. He clearly seems to be bad, which, for now, is good enough for me. *votes Epi* Open to discussion on why voting him wouldn't be optimal and who would be good to lynch instead.

Don't really see myself voting BDH or INH today, though.

That's what I figured.

BDH, Eloh, birdwithteeth11: Vote Russ.

Well, no beer for Eloh:

Or if BDH prefers:

[BigDamnHero]

So obviously Epi got whammied by an item or else he wouldn't install vote one person and then recommend several other vote another. I'm gonna take time to which one of you other bastards I can trust. ATM, I'm leaning Russ, but that could very easily change.

To my civ counterpart, don't give up hope. I had previously thought that our victory was already squashed, but we've got a Hail Mary shot at taking the baddie teams out.

[Epignosis]

So obviously Epi got whammied by an item or else he wouldn't install vote one person and then recommend several other vote another. I'm gonna take time to which one of you other bastards I can trust. ATM, I'm leaning Russ, but that could very easily change.

To my civ counterpart, don't give up hope. I had previously thought that our victory was already squashed, but we've got a Hail Mary shot at taking the baddie teams out.

Take out Russ.

And I don't mean to dinner.

[Epignosis]

Russ and INH are Crooked Cops. I would wager money on it. INH suddenly believed Russ and believed me less. How convenient.

Neither of them needed a reason to vote me out. "Care to explain this vote, Epi?" from INH is about what I expected. Russ is pretending to be open minded. He's not. He's pocketing BDH and refusing to vote his partner. That's plain as day. Nobody has express an interest in lynching birdwithteeth11 but me. Maybe bwt will get mad and vote for me too.

They are looking to finish this thing up.

Are you going to let them?

There are three votes left, and you three need to be unanimous. Vote Russtifinko and expose him for what he is. Make this an awesome comeback.

Remember: If you lynch anybody but a Crooked Cop today, and you aren't a Crooked Cop or the independent, you lose. Plain and simple.

[BigDamnHero]

I'm voting Russ FOR NOW....definitely just a place holder...BWT, ELOH I really need to know of.you are gonna follow...let's NOT end today early and really hash things out...

[timmer]

Wait, I was bad? Wattttt?

[BigDamnHero]

I need everybody to respond (don't make a case, just assign the names):
Crooked cops are....?
Yin is...?

[BigDamnHero]

Wait, I was bad? Wattttt?

I kinda figured you were

[Elohcin]

What is Epi playing at?

Note that he doesn'tsay I'm bad, just that he recommends lynching me. He clearly seems to be bad, which, for now, is good enough for me. *votes Epi* Open to discussion on why voting him wouldn't be optimal and who would be good to lynch instead.

Don't really see myself voting BDH or INH today, though.

That's what I figured.

BDH, Eloh, birdwithteeth11: Vote Russ.

Well, no beer for Eloh:

Or if BDH prefers:

I'm voting Russ FOR NOW....definitely just a place holder...BWT, ELOH I really need to know of.you are gonna follow...let's NOT end today early and really hash things out...

I'm with you BDH.

[Marmot]

Rezz pleaz.

[Marmot]

Wait, I was bad? Wattttt?

Rude.

[insertnamehere]

Welp. RIP DFaraday, and a hearty middle finger to whoever forced the Day 7 poll to be like that.

Are you a civilian, INH?

Are you, Epignosis?

[insertnamehere]

This lynch poll is BS by the way. I already voted because I doubt Epi will be able to change my mind on Russ' alignment.

I'd rather lynch someone I have little to no impression of (DFaraday) than the only other person who's calling Epi out on his shit.

And "ha ha" to Epi's latest round of smug condescension and his pissing contest with me and Russ.

Where the hell is Epi in all this? Did he decide to just go to the Winchester, have a pint, and wait for all this to blow over?

Or does he not care about the outcome because he knows DF being lynched will help him?

For what it's worth, I think there's a damn good chance that DF's civ. I'm not as sure of his alignment as I am of Russ' but I still really resent this situation for making us choose between these two.

That's why Epi's absence really grinds my gears. It's like he knows DF's going to flip civ, so he's biding his time so he can sail in Night 7 on a horse of "I told you so" style moral superiority, and an "if DF is civ, Russ must be bad" case.

He doesn't need to waste time attacking Russ because it's better for his game if DF's lynched this round. That way he can just waltz into another easy civ lynch Day 8.

Lynch this windbag. He puts the onus of persuasion on me, not himself, about Russ' alignment. What's the basis for that? They are teammates. Then he dials back about DF being a civilian. After that, he gets pissed at me (the guy he's accusing of lynching too many civilians) for not being around.

Firstly, you've been hardcore going after Russ for what seems like years, and I just said that you were unlikely to convince me with one of your trademark Epignosis Cases about his alignment. This was me saying that I didn't buy your case. But of course, Epig being the desperate baddie that he is, he had to twist my words around.

When did I ever call DF a baddie? All I ever said was that I had a better read on Russ than DF, not that I specifically saw DF as scum. Day 7 trapped everyone between a rock and a hard place, and I saw the whole thing being Civ Versus Civ as a possibility since the start. Although I wasn't sold on it until I read more of DF's posts.

After posting non-stop forever, you dial back big time in a way that mystifies even your SO!

I don't know where Epi is. I mean, I know where he is physically, but I don't know why he hasn't graced us with his presence in the thread today and given any more input.

I thought this auspicious absence was worth noting.

[insertnamehere]

I need everybody to respond (don't make a case, just assign the names):
Crooked cops are....?
Yin is...?

Crooked Cops: Epignosis and BWT
Yin: Elochin

[insertnamehere]

or Elo and BWT could be switched, i could see either filling each slot.

[Epignosis]

Stephen King wrote a novel about you, INH:

[Epignosis]

Here's the full quote INH snipped.

I don't know where Epi is. I mean, I know where he is physically, but I don't know why he hasn't graced us with his presence in the thread today and given any more input. I could swear by his gameplay that he is civ, but no one never really knows for sure.

[Russtifinko]

So obviously Epi got whammied by an item or else he wouldn't install vote one person and then recommend several other vote another. I'm gonna take time to which one of you other bastards I can trust. ATM, I'm leaning Russ, but that could very easily change.

To my civ counterpart, don't give up hope. I had previously thought that our victory was already squashed, but we've got a Hail Mary shot at taking the baddie teams out.

Soooo, I'm the one you can trust most, but then Epi says "You should vote Russ." and you vote Russ? Are you that easily swayed? Color me perplexed, at best, and a little frustrated.

Keep in mind, this is the same Epi who's been wrong 4 times in a row, and who has been so convinced I'm bad he's come up with 3 different baddie teammates for me, 2 of whom are now dead civs.

I got some small validation with that timmer death, so I'm now 1/2 on calling baddies. I think you can do the math here.

BDH, to answer your question, Elo is definitely bad in my book right now. She voted me yesterday, reread us, and decided to vote DF. Then she voted me again today as soon as Epi said jump. Which, honestly, is the same you did, but circumstances being what they are, I don't really buy that you're bad regardless. I figure her for a probable Cop.

I think BWT is likely bad as well. Between Epi and INH I'm really torn on the final baddie; my vote for Epi yesterday was admittedly reactive and somewhat emotionally-driven, and INH has been agreeing with me a lot, which is making him harder for me to judge. So I am actually open to changing my vote, no matter what Epi says. (Preferably to Elo or BWT, but to INH if I feel there's a compelling-enough case against him.)

And speaking of pretending to be willing to change your vote, this strikes me as funny in hindsight:

Voted Russ again.

B/c of DF's last post?

Of course not. I was always voting Russ.

[Epignosis]

INH and Russ both think I'm bad, birdwithteeth11 is bad, and Elohcin is bad. Good to know.

[Russtifinko]

BDH, as another point, Epi's led 4 civ lynches at this point. I led one, and then tried for days to lead a baddie lynch. Maybe you can still be proud of your performance as one of the last civs standing, but I don't see how. If I allow him to lead a FIFTH civ lynch and run away with the game, I'd feel like I played the worst game of all time, despite surviving for a while.

Linki: I said I'm not sure whether you or INH is the final baddie. You always say not to "twist words" - attributing something completely different from what I said is a bit beyond twisting, even, don't ya think?

Epi, care to answer BDH's question? 6 players alive, 3 are bad. We know you think I'm one of the baddies, so who are the other 2?

[Russtifinko]

Just had a thought that may be worth pointing out:

Crooked Cops, you guys are gonna want to try to get Mr. Yin lynched today. You get him, NK a civvie, and the game is over. If, on the other hand, you lynch a civvie today, you can't kill Yin tomorrow night, and barring manipulation or some crazy persuasion, the vote tomorrow is a tie. Then one of you might die at the end of the Day phase from Yin's kill, and he wins. Just seems like more of a sure thing for you if you get him today.

[Epignosis]

Epi, care to answer BDH's question? 6 players alive, 3 are bad. We know you think I'm one of the baddies, so who are the other 2?

No.

Big Damn Hero is a big damn boy. If he wants to vote me, he can. Where he votes is his decision.

[Russtifinko]

Epi, care to answer BDH's question? 6 players alive, 3 are bad. We know you think I'm one of the baddies, so who are the other 2?

No.

Big Damn Hero is a big damn boy. If he wants to vote me, he can. Where he votes is his decision.

Sure, he can vote wherever he wants. Not sure how that's relevant. Going beyond today's lynch, you don't think having everyone's opinions out in the open might help us solve and thus win the game?

[Epignosis]

Just had a thought that may be worth pointing out:

Crooked Cops, you guys are gonna want to try to get Mr. Yin lynched today. You get him, NK a civvie, and the game is over. If, on the other hand, you lynch a civvie today, you can't kill Yin tomorrow night, and barring manipulation or some crazy persuasion, the vote tomorrow is a tie. Then one of you might die at the end of the Day phase from Yin's kill, and he wins. Just seems like more of a sure thing for you if you get him today.

You left out that Yin is killing somebody today and can't be stopped.

[insertnamehere]

Russ and INH are Crooked Cops. I would wager money on it. INH suddenly believed Russ and believed me less. How convenient.

Me trusting Russ and me distrusting you weren't some gradual flip of the damn switch type BS. They were both gradual shifts in my stances as I saw and read more from more people. You keep pushing this idiotic idea that changing your opinion on someone even once automatically means total baddie scumbuddies. That's just some damn dangerous thinking, almost as dangerous as think that lynched civilians are no big deal-io.

Neither of them needed a reason to vote me out. "Care to explain this vote, Epi?" from INH is about what I expected. Russ is pretending to be open minded. He's not. He's pocketing BDH and refusing to vote his partner. That's plain as day.

Ever since about Day 5, we've both been railing against you nonstop in the thread. That's pretty much the only fucking connection we have: we both think you aren't good. I guess that equals baddie to Epi. Since I've already made my opinion on you and your alignment this game publicly known, even posting earlier that I would vote for you Day 8, I thought that more explanation wasn't warranted.

Nobody has express an interest in lynching birdwithteeth11 but me. Maybe bwt will get mad and vote for me too.

They are looking to finish this thing up.

Are you going to let them?

There are three votes left, and you three need to be unanimous. Vote Russtifinko and expose him for what he is. Make this an awesome comeback.

Remember: If you lynch anybody but a Crooked Cop today, and you aren't a Crooked Cop or the independent, you lose. Plain and simple.

I guess what this lynch comes down to is a simple question: Who's more likely to be a Crooked Cop? Epignosis or Russ? I'd have to go with the guy who's spent the entire game lynching civ after civ.

@BDH, Elo, and BWT: I think one of you is Epig's teammate, and I doubt it's BDH. Tell me the reason why you think Russ is more suspicious than Epig. Plain and simple.

[insertnamehere]

Just had a thought that may be worth pointing out:

Crooked Cops, you guys are gonna want to try to get Mr. Yin lynched today. You get him, NK a civvie, and the game is over. If, on the other hand, you lynch a civvie today, you can't kill Yin tomorrow night, and barring manipulation or some crazy persuasion, the vote tomorrow is a tie. Then one of you might die at the end of the Day phase from Yin's kill, and he wins. Just seems like more of a sure thing for you if you get him today.

You left out that Yin is killing somebody today and can't be stopped.

Are you now just claiming Yin? Jeez. I think that you're the one getting desperate here, Epi.

[Epignosis]

Epi, care to answer BDH's question? 6 players alive, 3 are bad. We know you think I'm one of the baddies, so who are the other 2?

No.

Big Damn Hero is a big damn boy. If he wants to vote me, he can. Where he votes is his decision.

Sure, he can vote wherever he wants. Not sure how that's relevant. Going beyond today's lynch, you don't think having everyone's opinions out in the open might help us solve and thus win the game?

Very well, since you asked for it.

I am voting birdwithteeth11. Nobody else is. People (you and INH) have talked about birdwithteeth11 being bad, but nobody but me has acted on it by this point. That tells me that no civilian (except me ) thinks birdwithteeth11 is bad and should be lynched today. If either of you genuinely thought birdwithteeth11 was bad, you would be voting him, not me, because he already has my vote.

I believe BDH is a civilian. I got the impression that Elohcin is independent.

I predict birdwithteeth11 votes for Russ, and that INH and Russ both jump off me and vote birdwithteeth11 to force the tie. That's what you two are setting everybody up for. There is only one team with two living members, and that's The Crooked Cops.

It's awfully uncomfortable in here, isn't it?

[Epignosis]

Just had a thought that may be worth pointing out:

Crooked Cops, you guys are gonna want to try to get Mr. Yin lynched today. You get him, NK a civvie, and the game is over. If, on the other hand, you lynch a civvie today, you can't kill Yin tomorrow night, and barring manipulation or some crazy persuasion, the vote tomorrow is a tie. Then one of you might die at the end of the Day phase from Yin's kill, and he wins. Just seems like more of a sure thing for you if you get him today.

You left out that Yin is killing somebody today and can't be stopped.

Are you now just claiming Yin? Jeez. I think that you're the one getting desperate here, Epi.

I claimed no such thing. What is desperate about claiming Yin? If he's lynched, the game is over and the Crooked Cops win. Russ laid that out already. He just left out an important detail is all.

[Russtifinko]

Just had a thought that may be worth pointing out:

Crooked Cops, you guys are gonna want to try to get Mr. Yin lynched today. You get him, NK a civvie, and the game is over. If, on the other hand, you lynch a civvie today, you can't kill Yin tomorrow night, and barring manipulation or some crazy persuasion, the vote tomorrow is a tie. Then one of you might die at the end of the Day phase from Yin's kill, and he wins. Just seems like more of a sure thing for you if you get him today.

You left out that Yin is killing somebody today and can't be stopped.

Dammit, you're right. Well, about him killing today. Not 100% sure he can't be stopped.

[Epignosis]

To make things clearer, INH and Russ are both fighting the fight. I mean really sweating the sweat.

They name Elohcin, bwt, and me as bad.

That means they believe BDH, INH, and Russ comprise two civilians and the independent.

Independent (1)

Pierre Despereaux – If alignment checked, he appears as a baddie. He may win with any team. (Secrets)

This guy.

This guy doesn't give a shit what side wins.

I believe by this point, Mr. Despereaux has either satisfied his win condition or screwed the pooch. Either way, he wouldn't be in here building cases and making a big whoop-de-doo throwing around accusations at this stage. I figure he would find a comfortable spot against the gas station wall, light a Pall Mall, and watch the action. Or maybe go home and bang the babysitter. Who knows.

What I do know is that if I am correct that BDH is a civilian, then from BDH's perspective, the accusations INH and Russ are making have to be mutually exclusive bullshit unless you buy either one of them is the independent. And you shouldn't buy that either one of them is the independent. They're in here being movers and shakers.

[insertnamehere]

So just because an indie role can win with anyone, is that supposed to mean that it can't help a civilian win? That it can't try to pick a side? And you don't know what powers that independent role has, Epi. You don't know squat.

[insertnamehere]

I guess my judgment's a little off because The Office Mafia just finished. In The Office Mafia, for those folks who're playing at home, I was a civilian that Epi, a member of the mafia, continually hounded and hounded, while I tried to get him lynched to no avail. I got so damn frustrated and fed up with the entire state of things that I considered doing something similar to what MP just did in Rot3K.

He fucking got to me. And he's fucking getting to me again.