RED vs. BLUE: Endgame

#401

*in spite of, not because of

#402

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Sloonei wrote:And then he votes for Scotty because of my antics anyway. Hm.
Hah, good catch. The guy spends half his posts complaining about how I play, and then he places his trust in a different guy who plays a lot like me.

This should prove a revealing lynch.

We could insert votes on him here right now.

#403

Sure why not. I doubt leetic is dying anyway.

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#404

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
It's worthless there unless the tide turns severely in the next hour and a half. What do you think of leetic and Scotty?

#405

Ricochet wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
It's worthless there unless the tide turns severely in the next hour and a half. What do you think of leetic and Scotty?

There is no burden on me, goofball. I know nothing about S~V~S and neither should you.

#406

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#407

How does everyone else feel about this development?

#408

#409

Ricochet wrote:

I'll tell you after you provide your own read.

#410

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
I'll tell you after you provide your own read.

#411

Ricochet wrote:

Maybe. I'll concern myself with the vote I place instead of potential team dynamics. I think Sloonei is right that INH looks bad for placing an important vote while dropping all the responsibility for it on Sloonei's head instead of shouldering it himself.

Ricochet wrote:

I don't really get that vibe, @realDonaldTrump. Sloonei did vote Scotty and has only just now moved it. I actually appreciate that he's willing to view multiple angles of that "trap" he set, including how other people respond to it -- in this case INH. If Scotty is town, I don't think that implies Sloonei is mafia. If Scotty is mafia, I do think that implies Sloonei is town.

#412

So Rico's just not reading the thread? This is some dedicated roleplay.

#413

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:How does everyone else feel about this development?

I too would like to hear some good informed opinions on what's going on.

#414

New rule for Rico: no pyramid-quoting your own Trump tweets. Snip please. :P

#415

#416

Arghhh ive been away, I'm behind again and now see the light slowly fading.

Too much to respond to within 30 minutes.

I didn't NO-U Sloonei because I didn't know if that was a baddie or civ mindset. I felt manipulated by his leading of the witness, but like someone said, if he is wrong in his antics (which he is) and bad, then he's so dead on D2. I just think he's a bit too smug about thinking he caught me saving my teammate in Quin or whatever.

Quin, I think it was you who said it was suspicious if I change up my day 1 strategies from my norm. Damned if I do, damned if I don't. I don't like giving tone reads on day 1, because I'm generally bad at them, but I figured practice makes perfect. It in this case, practice makes me get lynched day 1. So...cumquats.

Epi, I answered your question. MM said you were a suspect, and he stuck to it. As for his reasoning, yeah, it's weak, but at least he's making an accusation. That's why I view him as more civ than usual.

And thanks for the NO-U leetic, without word.

Probably not enough time to save me, so that's fine. Good luck civs.

Please investigate Wilgy after today. His random blah posting and throwaway vote Rings fishy to me

#417

Scotty wrote:Quin, I think it was you who said it was suspicious if I change up my day 1 strategies from my norm. Damned if I do, damned if I don't. I don't like giving tone reads on day 1, because I'm generally bad at them, but I figured practice makes perfect. It in this case, practice makes me get lynched day 1. So...cumquats.

This is what I was afraid of. I am inclined to believe Scotty that he wanted to mix up his Day 1 methods after getting crap for it frequently in recent memory. Scotty: if you're town and this doesn't end in your favor, I'd still encourage you to keep trying in future games. At least then people won't be able to say it's atypical.

I'd prefer we don't lynch Scotty.

#418

Moreover, anyone who sees that post right now and leaves their vote on Scotty is obligated to explain why it isn't sufficient to change your mind.

#419

Scotty wrote:Arghhh ive been away, I'm behind again and now see the light slowly fading. Too much to respond to within 30 minutes.

I didn't NO-U Sloonei because I didn't know if that was a baddie or civ mindset. I felt manipulated by his leading of the witness, but like someone said, if he is wrong in his antics (which he is) and bad, then he's so dead on D2. I just think he's a bit too smug about thinking he caught me saving my teammate in Quin or whatever.

Quin, I think it was you who said it was suspicious if I change up my day 1 strategies from my norm. Damned if I do, damned if I don't. I don't like giving tone reads on day 1, because I'm generally bad at them, but I figured practice makes perfect. It in this case, practice makes me get lynched day 1. So...cumquats.

Epi, I answered your question. MM said you were a suspect, and he stuck to it. As for his reasoning, yeah, it's weak, but at least he's making an accusation. That's why I view him as more civ than usual.

And thanks for the NO-U leetic, without word.

Probably not enough time to save me, so that's fine. Good luck civs.

Please investigate Wilgy after today. His random blah posting and throwaway vote Rings fishy to me

To be fair, I was not trying to manipulate you. You just didn't see my first post where I named you a suspect. I was just trying to interrogate you.

#420

Or we could just cricket chirp the remainder of the day away.

#421

Hi! I just got off work.

Some folks like cricket.

#422

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Hi! I just got off work.

Some folks like cricket.

What do you think of Scotty's last post?

What do you think of leetic?

What do you think of INH?

If time is limited, answer one at a time. Hurry.

#423

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Or we could just cricket chirp the remainder of the day away.

Ricochet wrote:

#424

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Scotty wrote:Quin, I think it was you who said it was suspicious if I change up my day 1 strategies from my norm. Damned if I do, damned if I don't. I don't like giving tone reads on day 1, because I'm generally bad at them, but I figured practice makes perfect. It in this case, practice makes me get lynched day 1. So...cumquats.
This is what I was afraid of. I am inclined to believe Scotty that he wanted to mix up his Day 1 methods after getting crap for it frequently in recent memory. Scotty: if you're town and this doesn't end in your favor, I'd still encourage you to keep trying in future games. At least then people won't be able to say it's atypical.

I'd prefer we don't lynch Scotty.

It's fine. It never hurts in the long run to keep changing strategies. My day 1 low poster thing evolved from getting too involved in day 1 and often getting either mislynched day 1 or nightkilled that night, plus possibly getting a baddie, so I'm not completely averse to trying new things.

Either way, I hope you guys at least learn a few things from my lynch here

#425

Ricochet wrote:

I have no idea what this means.

#426

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Moreover, anyone who sees that post right now and leaves their vote on Scotty is obligated to explain why it isn't sufficient to change your mind.

I'm not voting for Scotty because he wanted to do something different.

#427

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Hi! I just got off work.

Some folks like cricket.
What do you think of Scotty's last post?

What do you think of leetic?

What do you think of INH?

If time is limited, answer one at a time. Hurry.

If I vote for any of those 3, it'll be Scotty. Don't know anything about inh or leetic, so you're going to have to give me something.

Reading Scotty's post now.

#428

Epignosis wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Moreover, anyone who sees that post right now and leaves their vote on Scotty is obligated to explain why it isn't sufficient to change your mind.
I'm not voting for Scotty because he wanted to do something different.

I know, he answered your question. Talk about it.

#429

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Hi! I just got off work.

Some folks like cricket.
What do you think of Scotty's last post?

What do you think of leetic?

What do you think of INH?

If time is limited, answer one at a time. Hurry.
If I vote for any of those 3, it'll be Scotty. Don't know anything about inh or leetic, so you're going to have to give me something.

Reading Scotty's post now.

What if I said I started the Scotty wagon and now I'm off it? Go read INH instead. Pretty please.

#430

Why! 100% defending on leetic. Like, no variation.

IDK! INH reads JJJ "right" for the "wrong" reasons. Either a classic case of I'm-reading-X-civ-because-he-wouldn't-play-this-wonky-if-bad

Null! (in current context) his own gameplay stance explanation

Shady! A fluff of a banter in reaction to Epignosis' suss on Jaggy' Jay.
Shady! Complete gloss over four different player histories or viewpoints.

Pickle! agrees with Scotty that Sloonei might be barkin' at Quin too hard, but almost 24 hours later returns only to openly wagon on Scotty to test Sloonei's "trustiness". At worst, we can project either A) INH is bad and turning arms against teamie Scotty, in light of Scotty facing lynch; B) INH dripping inconsistency all on his own, regardless of possible connections

Better! His recent rebuttal just now, but moreover for parts like "I felt manipulated by [Sloonei's] leading of the witness" or "I just think he's a bit too smug about thinking he caught me saving my teammate in Quin or whatever." or "Epi, I answered your question. MM said you were a suspect, and he stuck to it. As for his reasoning, yeah, it's weak, but at least he's making an accusation." that strikes as believe, less so his reply to Quin, at least imo (just getting a null out of it tbh).

Could be ok! FWIW, his spook to Sloonei having previously baddie read him together with Quin, followed by a withdrawal of support for Qiun, reads fairly genuine.

Trump-reader pickle! Both Sloonei's full charge on Scotty: ("...you seemed to trust me enough there to follow along in a vote that you've got no substantial reason to believe in, despite claiming to believe in it. You've also got no substantial reason to trust me, just a minute ago you were complaining that I haven't been active enough, and now I'm here and I'm throwing this bullshit in your face, so why are you listening to me?) and Scotty's oversight of Sloonei's badlink of him with Quin read genuine on their own. What to make of this?

Meh! Hokey garbage first walkthrough of reads.

Null! Second, meatier round of reads, but we notice a significant amount of "nulls" (MP, Epig) and "fluffs" (Sloonei), besides addressing the hot Jaggy' vs Rick super-slam story. Questions Beck with a "what if faking". Bad GTHs Quin, which later gets him in polemics with Sloonei.

Null! Focuses on Sloonei until the latter arrives and starts looking into things. If mafia, maybe tried to start a fire and begin placing Sloonei in a pot over it.

Snafu moment!

Bit iffy! Insistence on drawing bad reads from not remembering what low-posters wrote.

Iffy! Switch to leetic (for "better reasons" brought by JJJ). How exactly did Scotty come to conclusion that JJJ's case is made with "better reasons"?

Flippy-floppy wifomy! Checking the inactives, but pondering to change his D1 MO for once.

#431

Metalmarsh89 wrote:If I vote for any of those 3, it'll be Scotty. Don't know anything about inh or leetic, so you're going to have to give me something.

leetic has drawn suspicion for this very arbitrary accusation:

leetic wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Everyone else: I don't expect you to read our text walls. Once we've had our chat and I am satisfied with whatever conclusion I come to I'll summarize it.
My suspicion of you has grown, sir. Why wouldn't you expect people to read what you've posted and form their own opinions and instead rely on your summary?
Why would we go to the trouble of researching something and forming our own opinions when we can get a nice tidy, completely unbiased five word long summary from FOX News or Breitbart that tells us how to feel about things?
You've given us very little so far other than to criticize the play of someone you have declared a town read for.

If you think my methods are unhelpful, then take a look in the freaking mirror dude. This is useless.
The latter part is CWAC (which stands for Contributing Without Actually Contributing btw). You're saying you won't do something, but not why. Others being unhelpful is no excuse to have said behavior.

I think it looks made up, and it came at an opportunistic moment soon after Epi voiced suspicion of me.

~~~

insertnamehere wrote:I'm going to throw my vote onto the Scotty bonfire. Him and Sloonei are probably my two most suspicious people at this point, and I'm willing to give Sloonei a chance to earn my trust here. Plus I really don't like the Leetic bandwagon, so helping to derail that is a nice bonus.

INH put all the responsibility for his own vote on Sloonei's shoulders.

#432

#433

Ricochet wrote:

We have 6 minutes.

#434

Scotty's response to Epignosis isn't very persuasive.

He does make a good point to Quin. I said I was changing my Day 1 tactic, and Quin had nothing to say about it. Scotty changes his Day 1 tactics, and gets suspected for it.

#435

#436

Ricochet wrote:

Insertnamehere is our CFD. Go go go!

#437

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Scotty's response to Epignosis isn't very persuasive.

Who cares whether it's "persuasive"?

Is it honest?

#438

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Scotty's response to Epignosis isn't very persuasive.

He does make a good point to Quin. I said I was changing my Day 1 tactic, and Quin had nothing to say about it. Scotty changes his Day 1 tactics, and gets suspected for it.

Tell us about INH.

#439

3 minutes. Hands out from under your asses please.

#440

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:If I vote for any of those 3, it'll be Scotty. Don't know anything about inh or leetic, so you're going to have to give me something.
leetic has drawn suspicion for this very arbitrary accusation:

leetic wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Everyone else: I don't expect you to read our text walls. Once we've had our chat and I am satisfied with whatever conclusion I come to I'll summarize it.
My suspicion of you has grown, sir. Why wouldn't you expect people to read what you've posted and form their own opinions and instead rely on your summary?
Why would we go to the trouble of researching something and forming our own opinions when we can get a nice tidy, completely unbiased five word long summary from FOX News or Breitbart that tells us how to feel about things?
You've given us very little so far other than to criticize the play of someone you have declared a town read for.

If you think my methods are unhelpful, then take a look in the freaking mirror dude. This is useless.
The latter part is CWAC (which stands for Contributing Without Actually Contributing btw). You're saying you won't do something, but not why. Others being unhelpful is no excuse to have said behavior.
I think it looks made up, and it came at an opportunistic moment soon after Epi voiced suspicion of me.

~~~

insertnamehere wrote:I'm going to throw my vote onto the Scotty bonfire. Him and Sloonei are probably my two most suspicious people at this point, and I'm willing to give Sloonei a chance to earn my trust here. Plus I really don't like the Leetic bandwagon, so helping to derail that is a nice bonus.
INH put all the responsibility for his own vote on Sloonei's shoulders.

Yet he did make an accusation. Do you think he is forcing it, or not committed to the game?

#441

#442

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Yet he did make an accusation. Do you think he is forcing it, or not committed to the game?

If he isn't committed to the game, he wouldn't need to make up an accusation. What he said is irrelevant to what I said.

#443

I think INH is bad and saw an easy opportunity to spin tomorrow's lynch on me if/when Scotty flips town. Vote for him.

#444

Hi Beck. Vote INH.

#445

what'd i miss

#446

Sorry Scotty. It didn't want any of this to go down like this.

#447

I'm voting Scotty.

I don't see anything in the post that Jay mentioned to vote for leetic. I don't have time to look at inh. Preceding Scotty's flip, I don't like Jay's actions at the end of this lynch. I know he likes to push buttons, but the reasons for lynching Scotty are stronger to me than elsewhere.

#448

Beck wrote:what'd i miss

The end of the day.

#449

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Hi Beck. Vote INH.

magicians itt

i am uninformed

#450

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm voting Scotty.

I don't see anything in the post that Jay mentioned to vote for leetic. I don't have time to look at inh. Preceding Scotty's flip, I don't like Jay's actions at the end of this lynch. I know he likes to push buttons, but the reasons for lynching Scotty are stronger to me than elsewhere.

You voted Scotty because you don't like my actions?

Well I hope you're right.

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