Haiku Mafia Day Five

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Zebra, why do you
think I am bad? Golden gave
his reasons, I see

But yourself have yet
to say why I'm bad. In this
particular game

[Golden]

What is the value
Of calling someone 'too loud'
without any read?

DDL has shot
Up my suspect list because
His views are wish-wash

Everything we say
may have value. I do not
always find baddies.

But sometimes I can
Point out to clues that can help
someone else find them

If I note something
which could be useful. I will
just say it out loud

This is fair enough
I'm happy with this answer
But explain 'too loud'

[Dom]

Although Nutella's
Defense was rather feeble.
Got my eye on you.

I am of the view
that the best defense is force
force meaning progress

progress meaning uh
radical baddie-hunting
or something like that

On this, we agree.
Best defense is good offense.
None from Nutella.

Simplest way to say
You don't give a carp 'bout
A player's defense.

With this, I agree.
Either the defense isn't
Good or no matter

Both ways have it can't.
putting nutella in a
lose lose choice llama is

[Dom]

Posting unreality
Is something that seems bad to me
Watch yourself, G.

I meant what I said
Wouldn't seek your death early
On your first game back

But the second game...
Well, that is a horse of a
different colour!

Explain what you mean
By "unreality" please
Syllable count fail

I think in this case
"G" would be me, it's because
I called Long Con bad

He's riffing off that
And threatening a nightkill
Intended in jest

I jested him first
But I tried to make it clear
With an emoji

Whether there is a
Sliver of truth in his words
That is the question

At this point I have
No genuine LC read
Or anyone else

no genuine reads
but why clarify if you
plan on making them

[Dom]

Wait what's day zero?
Are we voting anything?
What is going on

Have you never seen
a Day Zero before, what?
This feels very fake

I also agree
with Llama about the post
before this one, um

With all due respect
nutella you are my top
baddie read for now

but why is that so
what baddie motivation
does nutella have

[Dragon D. Luffy]

She was attacking
multiple players at once
early in the game

Not sure if that's part
of her normal meta. But I
felt it kind of forced

[Dom]

Too early for bandwagons
or for tunneling.

Now that is not the
Llama I have come to know
and both love and hate

In other games I have
played with you, you tunneled on me
hard, from start to end

this point is good one
tunnels are not unfit for
a llama. No no.

[Dom]

She was attacking
multiple players at once
early in the game

Not sure if that's part
of her normal meta. But I
felt it kind of forced

Golden has said you
Equivocate. Well, do you?
Is the real issue.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Frankly I just think
Nutella's defense was weak
Refrigerator

However, I don't
buy the initial case that
led to this wagon

So I will just be
on standby on that matter
for the time being

[Dragon D. Luffy]

What do you mean by
"Equivocate"? He just said
I'm wishy-washy

[Dom]

I see nothing wrong
with being uncertain, as
long as one is clear

Equivocation
Is much more concerning, such
as DDL here:

Yes, I do find it
rather peculiar yes
However, um uh

It is too early
for me to suspect her for
not being as loud

Actually, it may
be just a hunch. But I think
You are way too loud

Not sure if that means
Alignment or something else
Refrigerator

What is the value
Of calling someone 'too loud'
without any read?

DDL has shot
Up my suspect list because
His views are wish-wash

[Dom]

Frankly I just think
Nutella's defense was weak
Refrigerator

However, I don't
buy the initial case that
led to this wagon

So I will just be
on standby on that matter
for the time being

you are calling her
too loud. which side of this fence
do you stand behind

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Frankly I just think
Nutella's defense was weak
Refrigerator

However, I don't
buy the initial case that
led to this wagon

So I will just be
on standby on that matter
for the time being

you are calling her
too loud. which side of this fence
do you stand behind

This post is not 'bout
Zebra. Its about Nutella.
I believe I can

Handle each read in
individual ways. There are
more than just two sides.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I see nothing wrong
with being uncertain, as
long as one is clear

Equivocation
Is much more concerning, such
as DDL here:

Yes, I do find it
rather peculiar yes
However, um uh

It is too early
for me to suspect her for
not being as loud

Actually, it may
be just a hunch. But I think
You are way too loud

Not sure if that means
Alignment or something else
Refrigerator

What is the value
Of calling someone 'too loud'
without any read?

DDL has shot
Up my suspect list because
His views are wish-wash

I do not get the
issue. I have made my point
About Ms. Zebra.

It does not have to
come with a colorful civ
or scum read with it.

[Dom]

Frankly I just think
Nutella's defense was weak
Refrigerator

However, I don't
buy the initial case that
led to this wagon

So I will just be
on standby on that matter
for the time being

you are calling her
too loud. which side of this fence
do you stand behind

This post is not 'bout
Zebra. Its about Nutella.
I believe I can

Handle each read in
individual ways. There are
more than just two sides.

I misremembered
which player "loud" was put on
my bad. i am sorry

[Golden]

Posting unreality
Is something that seems bad to me
Watch yourself, G.

I meant what I said
Wouldn't seek your death early
On your first game back

But the second game...
Well, that is a horse of a
different colour!

Explain what you mean
By "unreality" please
Syllable count fail

I think in this case
"G" would be me, it's because
I called Long Con bad

He's riffing off that
And threatening a nightkill
Intended in jest

I jested him first
But I tried to make it clear
With an emoji

Whether there is a
Sliver of truth in his words
That is the question

At this point I have
No genuine LC read
Or anyone else

no genuine reads
but why clarify if you
plan on making them

I don't understand
Your question. But I had made
A joke LC read.

I wanted to be
Abundantly clear that it
Was not genuine

[Dom]

I see nothing wrong
with being uncertain, as
long as one is clear

Equivocation
Is much more concerning, such
as DDL here:

Yes, I do find it
rather peculiar yes
However, um uh

It is too early
for me to suspect her for
not being as loud

Actually, it may
be just a hunch. But I think
You are way too loud

Not sure if that means
Alignment or something else
Refrigerator

What is the value
Of calling someone 'too loud'
without any read?

DDL has shot
Up my suspect list because
His views are wish-wash

I do not get the
issue. I have made my point
About Ms. Zebra.

It does not have to
come with a colorful civ
or scum read with it.

why did you say that
golden never said
equivocate, bro?

[Golden]

What do you mean by
"Equivocate"? He just said
I'm wishy-washy

"Equivocate" means
You avoid commitment through
Ambiguous words

You say something but
You see it both ways and come
to no conclusion

It allows you to
go either way later, if
conditions are right

[TheFloyd73]

I would, however
Like to get a sense of Floyd's
Rationales for reads

My pleasure Golden
Doc's bickerment with you, his
stance was unwholly

Spoiler: show

Define what is real
Why is what you are saying
Not real currently?

My existence is
An optical illusion
I'm not a doctor

All I've done so far
Other than my rico point
Is jokes and banter

Why did you pick Quin
And I to consider bad?
Randomness or read?

Does it matter now
If you were randomly picked
The subject is there

What is the subject?
As you see from the quote below
No subject mentioned

I think Quin is bad
Golden may be bad as well
Refrigerator

It matters to me
Whether it's random or read
Speaks to your mindset

You are the subject
Along with being called bad
Refrigerator

I do not see how
This reveals my true mindset
Refrigerator

If it was random
What would you think of our talk?
Refrigerator

If it was a read
What would you think of our talk?
Refrigerator

Do you think I'm real?
Or perhaps I'm just a fake.
Does that matter now?

No foundation Doc
It's all smack talk no substance
'ella does likewise:

Spoiler: show

Hello all, I'm here
Looking forward to reading
actual content

I don't like this post.
There's been plenty of content.
What more does she want?

I don't think there was
much content when I posted
Nothing substantial

I never really
take such early ""suspicions""
too seriously

and especially
when people just throw names out
to start discussion

it just doesn't feel
like there's much anything to
go on this early

Plus it's harder here
with posts in haiku format
to discuss a lot

I even find it
hard to follow who says what
nothing sticks out yet

So far, any kind
of suspicion eludes me
Don't know where to start

So, llama, if you
think there has been much content
Please to tell me what?

Who do you suspect
if any, and why, pray tell?
Do enlighten me

However, I back
Her confusion for no vote
Or poll on Day 0

And DDL's gripe
At Quin, wholly uncalled for
Greatly perplexing

Spoiler: show

I would like to talk
But my internet is shit
Please expect nothing.

We should expect some
useful content. Else, why
keeping you alive?

For everyone else
I assume they are being
Their typical selves

As my return game
I can't make these judgements clear
A few days speak loud

[nutella]

Thinking I might vote
for Wilgy or DDL
for odd behavior

Luffy's normally
rather aggressive I think
and Wilgy zany

but IIRC
most times I've lynched Doc early
he has flipped as bad

so I think I will
put my day one gamble there.
Voting Doc (for now).

Still see lots of talk
about my "feeble defense"
Whatchu on bout dudes

If you think I'm sus
I don't know what to tell you
I've just said my thoughts

Let me know if you
have actual questions for
me to reply to

but for now I have
stated civ reads and bad pings
to the best I could.

[Dom]

Gamble is a word
that brings up fallacies of logic
Surely you know that, nut

[Quin]

This thread got busy
I agree with the Doc train
So that's where I'll vote

I need to go back
And read DDL's posts now
To understand this

[TheFloyd73]

For reasons stated
Vote is on Doc, time being
Care to testify?

[Quin]

I wish to see more
from Dom, DDL, G-Man,
and S~V~S please.

You will be waiting
I already regret joining
two maf games at once

Don't expect me to
be much active in either
Refrigerator

We should expect some
useful content. Else, why
keeping you alive?

[Quin]

Yes, I do find it
rather peculiar yes
However, um uh

It is too early
for me to suspect her for
not being as loud

Actually, it may
be just a hunch. But I think
You are way too loud

Not sure if that means
Alignment or something else
Refrigerator

What is 'something else'
He is either bad or good
So which is zebra?

[Golden]

This rush on voting
I don't understand it much
Still twenty-two hours

[Quin]

What is the value
Of calling someone 'too loud'
without any read?

DDL has shot
Up my suspect list because
His views are wish-wash

Everything we say
may have value. I do not
always find baddies.

But sometimes I can
Point out to clues that can help
someone else find them

If I note something
which could be useful. I will
just say it out loud

I agree with this
It jives with my own play style
So I would lean civ

linki: I got caught
In the rush of the game thread
And votes can be changed

[thellama73]

This rush on voting
I don't understand it much
Still twenty-two hours

No reason not to.
We can always change later.
But pressure is good.

[Quin]

She was attacking
multiple players at once
early in the game

Not sure if that's part
of her normal meta. But I
felt it kind of forced

Not feeling good here
Should anyone be called out
For something like this?

[Golden]

This rush on voting
I don't understand it much
Still twenty-two hours

No reason not to.
We can always change later.
But pressure is good.

Not saying 'lets stop'
Just a lot of throwaways
came out of nowhere

Within a quite short
space of time three votes came down
with little foreplay

I'll vote DDL
I liked one answer before
But there are bad points

Quin just made two points
I agree with both of them
Luff's illogical

[Dom]

Summarize for me
If you please, the case against
The good old doctor

[Golden]

I don't like the doc
Because his early suspects
Lacked any reason

Both in the moment
And in subsequent haikus
He hasn't explained

He backed off quin for
Just repeating what he had
said all along, and

He has remained vague
about why he called me out
no reason at all?

[thellama73]

I thought that Wilgy
Was unusually quiet
Early in the game

When I told him that
He started throwing out pings
Which felt kind of forced

Trying too hard to
Satisfy my concerns and
Throw me off the scent

[Long Con]

Wilgy and Rico
Are my top two suspicions
At this point in time

Wilgy for reasons
That have been said and re-said
Also some others

Rico just because
Of his false accusations
Against yours truly

Only reason to
Purport untrue suspicion
Is if you are bad

[DrWilgy]

If you're the real deal
I think you would know why you
had suspected me

As it stands, it feels
Like you don't know why you said
You had me as bad

I don't know what I
Would think if you said each thing
It's contextual

But the fact that you
Think it is irrelevant
Is quite odd to me

What if I told you
The quote above is true?
What if it is not?

Please give me something
Saying it's contextual
Is lacking real thought.

~~

Llama don't kill me
For responding when I can
That's be mighty lame

[Dom]

Oh my good doctor
Did you just accuse llama?
Why did you do that?

[DrWilgy]

Oh my good doctor
Did you just accuse llama?
Why did you do that?

What makes you think this?
I just told him don't kill me
#nomorewilgyvotes

[Golden]

If you're the real deal
I think you would know why you
had suspected me

As it stands, it feels
Like you don't know why you said
You had me as bad

I don't know what I
Would think if you said each thing
It's contextual

But the fact that you
Think it is irrelevant
Is quite odd to me

What if I told you
The quote above is true?
What if it is not?

Please give me something
Saying it's contextual
Is lacking real thought.

It's not the answer
But how you express it which
decides how I feel

It's not hard for me
To say I like one option
but not the other

That would truly be
the answer from me that lacked
any real thinking

And it would lack truth.
Just you being forthcoming
was what I wanted

Your choice of answer
would have been secondary
to how you said it

You've spent so much time
and effort avoiding a
quite basic question

I judge you on truth
I want to see your mindset
Which you will not show

You ask me to give
You something to work with, ha
ha ha ironic

At this point I think
I'd have trouble believing
whichever you said

You've had so much time
To give a straightforward answer
But chose to slow dance

[Quin]

I'd like to pretend
That this is my first game post
I remembered this

[Dom]

Oh my good doctor
Did you just accuse llama?
Why did you do that?

What makes you think this?
I just told him don't kill me
#nomorewilgyvotes

baddies can kill doc
civvies cannot kill you, doc
why would llama kill

[Long Con]

Oh my good doctor
Did you just accuse llama?
Why did you do that?

What makes you think this?
I just told him don't kill me
#nomorewilgyvotes

baddies can kill doc
civvies cannot kill you, doc
why would llama kill

Dude, if he were to
Accuse Llama, then he would
Probably admit

So why push on this?
Do you think he accuses
And takes it back?

[Golden]

I think in haiku
When I had lunch with my wife
Normal talk was hard

[DrWilgy]

If you're the real deal
I think you would know why you
had suspected me

As it stands, it feels
Like you don't know why you said
You had me as bad

I don't know what I
Would think if you said each thing
It's contextual

But the fact that you
Think it is irrelevant
Is quite odd to me

What if I told you
The quote above is true?
What if it is not?

Please give me something
Saying it's contextual
Is lacking real thought.

It's not the answer
But how you express it which
decides how I feel

It's not hard for me
To say I like one option
but not the other

That would truly be
the answer from me that lacked
any real thinking

And it would lack truth.
Just you being forthcoming
was what I wanted

Your choice of answer
would have been secondary
to how you said it

You've spent so much time
and effort avoiding a
quite basic question

I judge you on truth
I want to see your mindset
Which you will not show

You ask me to give
You something to work with, ha
ha ha ironic

At this point I think
I'd have trouble believing
whichever you said

You've had so much time
To give a straightforward answer
But chose to slow dance

Good enough for me
It was a farce anyways
Refrigerator

I'm not suspicious
Of you or Quin really
Nor was I ever

I did however
Want to help start discussion
Refrigerator

I don't have time now
But all of the reactions
Should be analyzed

I think there's good chance
A baddie has voted me
But that's just my gut

Going to bed now
I'll talk to you tomorrow
Peace out my homies

[Dom]

Oh my good doctor
Did you just accuse llama?
Why did you do that?

What makes you think this?
I just told him don't kill me
#nomorewilgyvotes

baddies can kill doc
civvies cannot kill you, doc
why would llama kill

Dude, if he were to
Accuse Llama, then he would
Probably admit

So why push on this?
Do you think he accuses
And takes it back?

i would like to know
just how genuine his top
suspects are. dog food.

[Ricochet]

Rico just because
Of his false accusations
Against yours truly

Only reason to
Purport untrue suspicion
Is if you are bad

There is no need for
Oh Mah Gus; prove what is wrong
Bout what I pointed

[nutella]

I'd like to pretend
That this is my first game post
I remembered this

Loved that show so much
Forgot this scene, it's funny
Sokka's such a dork

[Ricochet]

I'd like to pretend
That this is my first game post
I remembered this

Loved that show so much
Forgot this scene, it's funny
Sokka's such a dork

hear here here hear hear
Game made me recall this scene
Despite filler ep

[Quin]

What is going on
What's Ricochet mafia?
I am confuzzled

[Quin]

I just realised
You can change the thread title
How very insightful

[Long Con]

Rico just because
Of his false accusations
Against yours truly

Only reason to
Purport untrue suspicion
Is if you are bad

There is no need for
Oh Mah Gus; prove what is wrong
Bout what I pointed

The funny thing is
(if you dig that kind of thing)
I already did:

G-Man and Con talk
Begs clarifying, till then
Refrigerator

What's to clarify?
Not much more to say on that
The 'G' confused him

And then he wrongly
Thought I quoted him to start
But I cleared that up

Dislike Con pursuit
For (low/in) actives; cheap Day lead
Why act so Scottish

I'm not pursuing
Low posters, that was a joke
Pretty sure that's clear:

Have all players checked in?
If not, who is still missing?
And, can we lynch them?

That is the only
Time I ever mentioned it
Didn't even name names

And as for the rest
What the heck is "cheap Day lead?"
How am I Scottish??

These accusations
Are senseless and weak enough
To make me 'sus' you