A Mafia of Unfortunate Events [END GAME]

[Quin]

I have a theory that Olaf is the last member of the Troupe.

Given LC's assumptions that Dom was Olaf and flipped as the seemer lie detector, if Olaf had living teammates I think it would be a better strategy to have them kill every night instead of him. That way that argument that he was dead still holds water and it's more difficult to look for teammates. Either Olaf didn't think of that, or everyone else on his team is dead.

linki: No, read my follow up post.

[sig]

I have a theory that Olaf is the last member of the Troupe.

Given LC's assumptions that Dom was Olaf and flipped as the seemer lie detector, if Olaf had living teammates I think it would be a better strategy to have them kill every night instead of him. That way that argument that he was dead still holds water and it's more difficult to look for teammates. Either Olaf didn't think of that, or everyone else on his team is dead.

linki: No, read my follow up post.

I believe Olaf always appears as the killer even if he doesn't do the kill.

[Quin]

Hey DF, who killed Scotty on Night 1?

I should have mentioned that. It was the Troupe.

I asked because the Night 2 post said that Esme killed soup. Can we learn which of the Troupe killed Scotty?

Additionally, I would like to visit Dr. Orwell.

All Guardian kills are written as Esme carrying out the kill. All Troupe kills are written as Olaf carrying out the kill (though he wasn't mentioned in the Daily Punctilio piece).

Okay, never mind.

[Dom]

Spoiler: show

Ha.

My concern is that the Troupe has that dead role checker, and that they will begin to try and hint at being roles that they know are dead and gone. It might have already happened.

Are you gonna answer the question?

My answer was a single syllable of derisive laughter. Translation: "No, I'm not a baddie. I don't think anyone really thinks I'm a baddie. Not only do the vote records really look good on me, so does my gameplay, and reasons beyond."

I'm here to help end this game as efficiently as possible for the Civvies, and I intend to do just that.

citation needed

Ha.

My concern is that the Troupe has that dead role checker, and that they will begin to try and hint at being roles that they know are dead and gone. It might have already happened.

Are you gonna answer the question?

I'll do a rainbow list later once I've had time to dig into some ISOs. For now, a GTH reads list:

Daisy - Town
DDL - Town
Dom - Mafia
Epi - Town
JoH - Town
LC - Town
Quin - Mafia
sig - Town
Sorsha - Mafia

MP, having not played for days, lists me as bad. Sad !

Oh, I've been playing the game.

that's exactly what i'm worried about.

so, alex, when did you get recruited?

I haven't been. What makes you think I have specifically, and why is that notable?

lol

Dom was subbed back in to a baddie role, I'm sorry, but it's so obvious. The Host wouldn't have gotten involved again if it wasn't to correct an unfairness like the baddie getting lynched for the "wrong reasons".

I didn't but okay.

who was/is josephine?

Not you.

Dom, there's really nothing substantial here. It'd be nice if you answered my questions instead of just putting "lol".

My retort to LC, my commentary on you ignoring the game for days on end, pointing out nonsense LC posted... all ignored because I thought your response to me was amusing.

Golden, I just facepalmed so damn hard I hurt my forehead.

I see no reason to disbelieve MPs strong indy hinting. I've seen him do exactly this before, and when your win con is "They will win by surviving to the end", being no threat to the mafia and blatant to the town is the best way to avoid it.

I'd stake money on him being Fowl.

Ok. I'll take that bet. How much are we talking here? Seriously. If you're good for your word, then how about $50? I can Paypal.

Can we please not do this.
I do not find this funny, amusing, convincing, or in good spirit.

Anyway, LC, I take your very direct point.

Are you thinking of voting MP today?

Absolutely. I think it's extremely unlikely he's an Indy.

why

Okay can we please not lynch Dom or Epi, both would be distractions by the scum team.

I no longer think that Dom wasn't Josephine. I just think he subbed back in on the Troupe.

I honestly think LC is mafia and I think right now we're in a bad place. I need to do some more digging, but why wasn't sprityo saved and why didn't LC vote for him?

DDL was my suspect. At the time I voted for DDL, I had two votes and sprit had two votes, and my vote put DDL to two votes. I wasn't in "lynch survival mode" by the votes at the time... plus I was immune that day due to the Reptile Challenge.

This is rich.
Why?
Give one reason why.
You sound just like Elohcin. She never once gave a reason for suspecting me. You've backed off your only reason to.

[Epignosis]

Dom, no offense, but you just sound pissy whenever you post. I can never tell whether you really want anybody to care about what you have to say. You're terse and you often fail to elaborate on things. Are you trying to find mafia or are you trying to find GOTCHA moments? Like your asking sig why he wasn't interested in finding the other mafia team...after he took the lead in the charge against the first mafia lynch.

And yes, it's true that wagering money on the outcome of a lynch could be illegal. Please refrain from that. It's in our site guidelines.

[Long Con]

I don't know that you're bad, Dom. I don't know that MP is not Indy. I just really feel a lot better about a bunch of other people in the game, and you guys are question marks. Maybe there's only one baddie left, and it's Sorsha, or Spacedaisy, or Epignosis. I could still be wrong about everything. It just makes sense to me that you are bad.

I still think the information about Dom 1.0's first two nights should have been made public. The role you are now knows things most of the other players do not, and it's something that Marco, had he kept playing, would not have known. I just don't think you were Olaf anymore. I changed my mind about that, and I have had to accept that my idea of what's fair isn't the same as everyone else's. You're just on my baddie short list, based on my spreadsheet, which has been filled out and filled in throughout the game.

It's not what you have done, it's what others have done that aren't you. I can't just sit back and ignore it, I'm sorry if it's too ethereal for your comfort level. And sorry about that bet talk, I was taking out my frustrations from real life in the thread a little, as in I was already feeling exasperated and then I was suddenly getting double-team-tl;dr'ed by Golden and sig while getting ready for work. I shouldn't have snapped at him like that, of course there's not real betting to be done in Mafia.

[Long Con]

I understand Dom's frustration. I'm not giving him anything to defend against.

[Epignosis]

By the way, I'm not giving anybody a pass on stuff like "SEE OLAF IS STILL ALIVE" type posts (Dom and Quin). Just to be clear. Nobody is getting any credit from me for making little mistakes this late in the game. None of that is factoring into my opinion of you.

[Long Con]

Anyway, LC, I take your very direct point.

Are you thinking of voting MP today?

Absolutely. I think it's extremely unlikely he's an Indy.

why

I said why already. That team has a dead role checker, and I profiled them to be likely to make some role hint based on the knowledge of the dead that they have. MP fit the profile very closely with his little Indy stunt.

[Dom]

Dom, no offense, but you just sound pissy whenever you post. I can never tell whether you really want anybody to care about what you have to say. You're terse and you often fail to elaborate on things. Are you trying to find mafia or are you trying to find GOTCHA moments? Like your asking sig why he wasn't interested in finding the other mafia team...after he took the lead in the charge against the first mafia lynch.

And yes, it's true that wagering money on the outcome of a lynch could be illegal. Please refrain from that. It's in our site guidelines.

Epi, no offense, but you sound preachy and holier than thou when you post.

[Dom]

Anyway, LC, I take your very direct point.

Are you thinking of voting MP today?

Absolutely. I think it's extremely unlikely he's an Indy.

why

I said why already. That team has a dead role checker, and I profiled them to be likely to make some role hint based on the knowledge of the dead that they have. MP fit the profile very closely with his little Indy stunt.

but why
you could make that argument about anyone. this is nothing specific.


just like how apparently i'm bad because... you've decided so?

The good ol' Elohcin try.

[Epignosis]

Dom, no offense, but you just sound pissy whenever you post. I can never tell whether you really want anybody to care about what you have to say. You're terse and you often fail to elaborate on things. Are you trying to find mafia or are you trying to find GOTCHA moments? Like your asking sig why he wasn't interested in finding the other mafia team...after he took the lead in the charge against the first mafia lynch.

And yes, it's true that wagering money on the outcome of a lynch could be illegal. Please refrain from that. It's in our site guidelines.

Epi, no offense, but you sound preachy and holier than thou when you post.

Yep. That's purposeful. Are you pissy and terse and failing to elaborate on things purposefully? If so, why?

[Epignosis]

I've had this tab open since this morning, so some of this is bound to be reruns of what has already been mentioned.

I think the biggest clues lie in cross-referencing the polls from Days 1 and 2, which fortunately, have been archived, and consider Glorfindel's Day 1 abstention.

Perhaps Glorfindel withheld his vote for fear of exposing his team so early. If that's the case (and I'm aware he could have just voted elsewhere by himself), he might have feared exposing Quin and/or Sorsha if he voted DDL, or Soneji if he voted sprityo1.

Unless there was something else in play, one can rule out DDL and Jack, because they voted Long Con Day 2, and sprityo's vote would have counted for two, and sprityo2 would not have been lynched. We've said that already, but I'm including it anyway for the sake of completeness.

Long Con is only bad if the Day 2 lynch was tied between him and his teammate. Under normal circumstances, Long Con would have voted sprityo2 in order to save himself, but he had no concern on that front. He claimed to have won the challenge and no one contested that claim. Unfortunately, none of this says anything about whether or not he's mafia. I think sig has been genuine in trying to condemn LC, but I also think sig failed in his effort. That's okay.

Jack, a cleared person, advises against lynching Long Con. I don't understand this, but it holds weight since Jack voted LC Day 2. If Jack is bad with LC, and Day 2 has something weird happen, then we file that under "Oh well." I would rather Jack give reasons why Long Con isn't bad.

Spacedaisy hasn't posted in about four days. Unless you think she's popping online just to submit a kill or other evil night action and not participating otherwise, I have a hard time believing she's bad. When we were bad together last month, she played very well even up to endgame. Daisy would be a poor lynch, in my opinion.

I'm posting this now. It's been up all day. I'll quote it and spoiler it when I continue I guess.

[Long Con]

Anyway, LC, I take your very direct point.

Are you thinking of voting MP today?

Absolutely. I think it's extremely unlikely he's an Indy.

why

I said why already. That team has a dead role checker, and I profiled them to be likely to make some role hint based on the knowledge of the dead that they have. MP fit the profile very closely with his little Indy stunt.

but why
you could make that argument about anyone. this is nothing specific.


just like how apparently i'm bad because... you've decided so?

The good ol' Elohcin try.

I just said why. I don't understand your question anymore. I thought about how the baddies might use a role on their team, I looked for behaviour that matched that, and MP matched it. What do you mean "why"?

[Long Con]

Spacedaisy hasn't posted in about four days. Unless you think she's popping online just to submit a kill or other evil night action and not participating otherwise, I have a hard time believing she's bad.

On the flip side, the Troupe could just be missing their dead role check each night.

[Epignosis]

Anyway, LC, I take your very direct point.

Are you thinking of voting MP today?

Absolutely. I think it's extremely unlikely he's an Indy.

why

I said why already. That team has a dead role checker, and I profiled them to be likely to make some role hint based on the knowledge of the dead that they have. MP fit the profile very closely with his little Indy stunt.

but why
you could make that argument about anyone. this is nothing specific.


just like how apparently i'm bad because... you've decided so?

The good ol' Elohcin try.

How could LC make that argument about me?

[Long Con]

*snip*

SpaceDaisy:
D1: MM
D2: MM
D3: No Vote
D4: No vote
D5: No vote

This isn't bad, but it isn't good. I do have a potential scum slip for MP/Daisy to bring up but that will be in a bit.

*snip*

LC:
D1: Sprtiyo
D2: DDL
D3: Dom
D4: No Vote
D5: Epi

I don't like how LC looks coming out of this, he defended Glorf/Sprityo and then voted for DDL, I need to check the time stamps, but my thought is LC and Sprityo were on the same team and they were trying to get another vote on DDL, which would have allowed Sprityo to vote their creating a two/three way tie, which wouldn't really be a tie since they had a double voter.

From just looking over voting I'd say LC and Quin look the worst. Followed by MP, then Sorsha/Daisy.

1. How can you call Daisy's vote record "not bad and not good" and then list her as the least suspicious based on voting records? Is that what it takes to get a pass from sig? She voted off the main wagons on both Days 1 and 2, and then failed to vote for three days.

2. You have some information wrong. I never defended Glorf/sprityo. Why are you saying I did? I don't think this is a small mistake - Glorfyo was a member of the last baddie team left alive. Whether or not I defended him is a piece of evidence that is pretty important not to get wrong.

3. I haven't looked, but is there any indication that Glorfyo was trying to set himself up for a possible DDL vote?

4. If I were on Glorfyo's team, then I was a more valuable member than him. Powderface was a hindrance. Glorfyo's final vote on me quite famously cleared three people from being on the Troupe. That was very bad for the Troupe. Now cross-reference that with sprityo trying to save his own life by taking mine. Oh, I couldn't be lynched that day? Remember, you wouldn't have EVER known that if I hadn't told you. And if there HAD been a no-lynch, it would have cast suspicion on me as being Esme Squalor. There are so many factors involved in that lynch that point in the direction of "LC is not on that team". Seriously, how many reasons do you need before you see the truth?

[Dom]

Dom, no offense, but you just sound pissy whenever you post. I can never tell whether you really want anybody to care about what you have to say. You're terse and you often fail to elaborate on things. Are you trying to find mafia or are you trying to find GOTCHA moments? Like your asking sig why he wasn't interested in finding the other mafia team...after he took the lead in the charge against the first mafia lynch.

And yes, it's true that wagering money on the outcome of a lynch could be illegal. Please refrain from that. It's in our site guidelines.

Epi, no offense, but you sound preachy and holier than thou when you post.

Yep. That's purposeful. Are you pissy and terse and failing to elaborate on things purposefully? If so, why?

Are you trying to piss me off right now or???

[Dom]

Anyway, LC, I take your very direct point.

Are you thinking of voting MP today?

Absolutely. I think it's extremely unlikely he's an Indy.

why

I said why already. That team has a dead role checker, and I profiled them to be likely to make some role hint based on the knowledge of the dead that they have. MP fit the profile very closely with his little Indy stunt.

but why
you could make that argument about anyone. this is nothing specific.


just like how apparently i'm bad because... you've decided so?

The good ol' Elohcin try.

I just said why. I don't understand your question anymore. I thought about how the baddies might use a role on their team, I looked for behaviour that matched that, and MP matched it. What do you mean "why"?

why doesn't someone else acting like a certain role trip any alarms for you then? What is special about MP?
I don't understand. I have no reason to think MP is anything. I don't trust him at all. I just don't understand why you've attached yourself to MP. Any baddie could claim any dead persona they wanted.

[Dom]

Spacedaisy hasn't posted in about four days. Unless you think she's popping online just to submit a kill or other evil night action and not participating otherwise, I have a hard time believing she's bad.

On the flip side, the Troupe could just be missing their dead role check each night.

can people do group pms or nah?

[Long Con]

THE CASE AGAINST LONG CON

First why would a civ do this in such big letters unless they had info? True yeah they might, but honestly? I doubt it.

Actually, he did it because I had said there was no case against me, and I was getting suspected on gut. The big letters were a pointed rebuttal against that. Context is important.

[Dom]

Anyway, LC, I take your very direct point.

Are you thinking of voting MP today?

Absolutely. I think it's extremely unlikely he's an Indy.

why

I said why already. That team has a dead role checker, and I profiled them to be likely to make some role hint based on the knowledge of the dead that they have. MP fit the profile very closely with his little Indy stunt.

but why
you could make that argument about anyone. this is nothing specific.


just like how apparently i'm bad because... you've decided so?

The good ol' Elohcin try.

How could LC make that argument about me?

*many people

[Long Con]

Spacedaisy hasn't posted in about four days. Unless you think she's popping online just to submit a kill or other evil night action and not participating otherwise, I have a hard time believing she's bad.

On the flip side, the Troupe could just be missing their dead role check each night.

can people do group pms or nah?

If they can, then Daisy being absent is no hindrance to them.

[Dom]

Ha.

My concern is that the Troupe has that dead role checker, and that they will begin to try and hint at being roles that they know are dead and gone. It might have already happened.

Are you gonna answer the question?

My answer was a single syllable of derisive laughter. Translation: "No, I'm not a baddie. I don't think anyone really thinks I'm a baddie. Not only do the vote records really look good on me, so does my gameplay, and reasons beyond."

I'm here to help end this game as efficiently as possible for the Civvies, and I intend to do just that.

citation needed

@Long_Con

[Long Con]

Anyway, LC, I take your very direct point.

Are you thinking of voting MP today?

Absolutely. I think it's extremely unlikely he's an Indy.

why

I said why already. That team has a dead role checker, and I profiled them to be likely to make some role hint based on the knowledge of the dead that they have. MP fit the profile very closely with his little Indy stunt.

but why
you could make that argument about anyone. this is nothing specific.


just like how apparently i'm bad because... you've decided so?

The good ol' Elohcin try.

I just said why. I don't understand your question anymore. I thought about how the baddies might use a role on their team, I looked for behaviour that matched that, and MP matched it. What do you mean "why"?

why doesn't someone else acting like a certain role trip any alarms for you then? What is special about MP?
I don't understand. I have no reason to think MP is anything. I don't trust him at all. I just don't understand why you've attached yourself to MP. Any baddie could claim any dead persona they wanted.

Who else acted like a certain role?

[Epignosis]

I agree with LC on a few points. I would be viewing the Powdered Women role a liability rather than an asset. It sounds good when you look at it, but it isn't in practice.

I think LC's post is good stuff. If LC was a teammate of sprityo2, and his team knew LC couldn't be lynched, then sprityo's sudden vote against LC wouldn't make any sense.

I am less likely to vote LC now.

[Long Con]

Ha.

My concern is that the Troupe has that dead role checker, and that they will begin to try and hint at being roles that they know are dead and gone. It might have already happened.

Are you gonna answer the question?

My answer was a single syllable of derisive laughter. Translation: "No, I'm not a baddie. I don't think anyone really thinks I'm a baddie. Not only do the vote records really look good on me, so does my gameplay, and reasons beyond."

I'm here to help end this game as efficiently as possible for the Civvies, and I intend to do just that.

citation needed

@Long_Con

First, there's no underscore in my name. Second, I just discussed the important voting records from Day to and carefully laid out how they look REALLY good on me. I'm going to not lose my patience here.

[Long Con]

...from Day to and carefully laid out...

Er, "from Day Two"

[Epignosis]

Dom, no offense, but you just sound pissy whenever you post. I can never tell whether you really want anybody to care about what you have to say. You're terse and you often fail to elaborate on things. Are you trying to find mafia or are you trying to find GOTCHA moments? Like your asking sig why he wasn't interested in finding the other mafia team...after he took the lead in the charge against the first mafia lynch.

And yes, it's true that wagering money on the outcome of a lynch could be illegal. Please refrain from that. It's in our site guidelines.

Epi, no offense, but you sound preachy and holier than thou when you post.

Yep. That's purposeful. Are you pissy and terse and failing to elaborate on things purposefully? If so, why?

Are you trying to piss me off right now or???

If pissing you off lets me know whether or not you are good or bad, then yes.

Why can't you answer a question? Are you bad?

[Golden]

Jack, a cleared person, advises against lynching Long Con. I don't understand this, but it holds weight since Jack voted LC Day 2. If Jack is bad with LC, and Day 2 has something weird happen, then we file that under "Oh well." I would rather Jack give reasons why Long Con isn't bad.

Now this is interesting and I don't know why it didn't occur to me before. It means that Jack is advising against it now when he didn't necessarily think so before. It rules out some explanations for why he may not want to lynch Long Con now.

[Long Con]

I'm not trying to piss you off Dom. I don't want you to be pissed off.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jack, a cleared person, advises against lynching Long Con. I don't understand this, but it holds weight since Jack voted LC Day 2. If Jack is bad with LC, and Day 2 has something weird happen, then we file that under "Oh well." I would rather Jack give reasons why Long Con isn't bad.

Now this is interesting and I don't know why it didn't occur to me before. It means that Jack is advising against it now when he didn't necessarily think so before. It rules out some explanations for why he may not want to lynch Long Con now.

It does, yes.

I think you'll find that one of the remaining explanations is a very good one.

[Golden]

I agree with LC on a few points. I would be viewing the Powdered Women role a liability rather than an asset. It sounds good when you look at it, but it isn't in practice.

I think LC's post is good stuff. If LC was a teammate of sprityo2, and his team knew LC couldn't be lynched, then sprityo's sudden vote against LC wouldn't make any sense.

I am less likely to vote LC now.

Why doesn't sprit's vote against LC make sense in that context? It could be seen as distancing. It would be odd for sprit not to make the vote. Wouldn't he be entirely unafraid to make the vote knowing LC could get lynched and then they both end up not lynched? Especially if LC is honest about his save being for day two only...

[Golden]

Jack, a cleared person, advises against lynching Long Con. I don't understand this, but it holds weight since Jack voted LC Day 2. If Jack is bad with LC, and Day 2 has something weird happen, then we file that under "Oh well." I would rather Jack give reasons why Long Con isn't bad.

Now this is interesting and I don't know why it didn't occur to me before. It means that Jack is advising against it now when he didn't necessarily think so before. It rules out some explanations for why he may not want to lynch Long Con now.

It does, yes.

I think you'll find that one of the remaining explanations is a very good one.

Option narrowing is always a good thing. Makes me know what I'm not looking for.

[Long Con]

I agree with LC on a few points. I would be viewing the Powdered Women role a liability rather than an asset. It sounds good when you look at it, but it isn't in practice.

I think LC's post is good stuff. If LC was a teammate of sprityo2, and his team knew LC couldn't be lynched, then sprityo's sudden vote against LC wouldn't make any sense.

I am less likely to vote LC now.

Why doesn't sprit's vote against LC make sense in that context? It could be seen as distancing. It would be odd for sprit not to make the vote. Wouldn't he be entirely unafraid to make the vote knowing LC could get lynched and then they both end up not lynched? Especially if LC is honest about his save being for day two only...

I think I discussed this very well recently in a reply to sig.

[Golden]

4. If I were on Glorfyo's team, then I was a more valuable member than him. Powderface was a hindrance. Glorfyo's final vote on me quite famously cleared three people from being on the Troupe. That was very bad for the Troupe. Now cross-reference that with sprityo trying to save his own life by taking mine. Oh, I couldn't be lynched that day? Remember, you wouldn't have EVER known that if I hadn't told you. And if there HAD been a no-lynch, it would have cast suspicion on me as being Esme Squalor. There are so many factors involved in that lynch that point in the direction of "LC is not on that team". Seriously, how many reasons do you need before you see the truth?

Do you mean this, LC?

[Dom]

Who else acted like a certain role?

Aren't you arguing affiliation?
Couldn't you say... I dunno... sig could be bad by the same argument, but replace "indy" with "civvie"?

I'm not trying to piss you off Dom. I don't want you to be pissed off.

You're not.

[sig]

I've never acted like a certain role.

I'm on phone so can't post very well, but lc answered my points so I've gotta think on that. Daisy did avoid the wagons yes but her being so obviously absent makes her less likely to be mafia in my eyes.

[Long Con]

Who else acted like a certain role?

Aren't you arguing affiliation?
Couldn't you say... I dunno... sig could be bad by the same argument, but replace "indy" with "civvie"?

sig seems to be acting like a supatown, and he expressed shock that he was orange in my list. I thought maybe he was supposed to be Klaus, but then I read him talking about who else might be Klaus. Is he just supatowning off the Gloryo meta read triumph?

That's where I stand with sig. I can point to the specific post where MP tries to REALLY softclaim Indy. You know the one, right?

[Dom]

Who else acted like a certain role?

Aren't you arguing affiliation?
Couldn't you say... I dunno... sig could be bad by the same argument, but replace "indy" with "civvie"?

sig seems to be acting like a supatown, and he expressed shock that he was orange in my list. I thought maybe he was supposed to be Klaus, but then I read him talking about who else might be Klaus. Is he just supatowning off the Gloryo meta read triumph?

That's where I stand with sig. I can point to the specific post where MP tries to REALLY softclaim Indy. You know the one, right?

no

[Long Con]

I've never acted like a certain role.

I'm on phone so can't post very well, but lc answered my points so I've gotta think on that.

Inseereal different posts.... your post was so goddamned big I couldn't even read it all at once.

Daisy did avoid the wagons yes but her being so obviously absent makes her less likely to be mafia in my eyes.

I think that players are absent... not alignments.

[Golden]

Sig was entirely responsible for the glorfindel/sprit suspicion from the start, and was the only one out of anyone who gave reasons beyond glorf subbing out (and was on it before glorf subbed out). There is no good reason to have him at orange in your rainbow, it's just bizarre.

[Long Con]

Inseereal

WTF? "in several"

[Golden]

I think that players are absent... not alignments.

I agree. Daisy has every reason to be absent, and there is no reason for us to assume she is missing PMs. I think it would be bad to draw conclusions (good or bad) from her not posting for four rl days.

[Golden]

I mean, in many ways I'd have sig as more cleared than Jack and DDL. You can go wrong with trusting mechanics, but it's rare to go wrong when someone has put so much effort into lynching players from both teams before they otherwise have heat. It's not bussing - it has no characteristics in common with bussing.

[Long Con]

Sig was entirely responsible for the glorfindel/sprit suspicion from the start, and was the only one out of anyone who gave reasons beyond glorf subbing out (and was on it before glorf subbed out). There is no good reason to have him at orange in your rainbow, it's just bizarre.

As I said, the colour was simply relative. Not meant to say I want to lynch him.

Also, I think I recall a case made that he bussed his teammate. Is that so impossible?

No, I don't believe it. Just... lay off my frikkin' colour choice.

I've already sworn at you about me and hiding my fave Civs in the middle of my lists. In this game and a recent one. When will you learn to stop asking damn questions about my moderately bad reads?

[Dom]

hey long con why am i suddenly not olaf anymore


hey quin why are you lying low

[Long Con]

LOL, although in the other one (Haiku), I hid you, Golden, in my moderately bad reads, because you were the one I was most sure was Civ. Then you complained about it. And you were bad. How ironic?

[Golden]

@LC - I was mistaking you for dom when making that response, thinking you were actively suspecting sig of 'acting'.

To Dom - I don't know why you could say sig has 'acted like a certain role'

[Long Con]

hey long con why am i suddenly not olaf anymore

I accepted another point of view.