Phenon Mafia: ENDGAME - Snuffed
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Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire
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Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire
Not easily, but when you're on the reply screen, the last 50 posts or so will be below the box you type into, and you can use that to multiquote any of those.Silver Lantern wrote:Is there a way to multiquote?
Alternatively, use tabs and cut and paste (that's what I usually end up doing).
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Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire
I feel like the reason is patently obvious: to control the conversation and influence where people go. I don't think it's too big of a leap to think that the mafia has info about certain destinations leading to certain effects. I could see at the very least one scummeister fake-claiming just to gain credibility.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:INH:
What do you suspect may have been the nefarious motivations for three people (now four) all claiming to have the map? In particular, what worries you about Golden's flip-flop in that discussion?
3 out of the 4 top posters have claimed to have special info, and we know only one is telling the truth. That's enough to make me start to sweat a little about some possible misleading.
As far as Golden's flippity-floppity is concerned, if he was being honest about the chain of events, I would have done the same thing. It's just not something I'm prepared to take at face value right off the bat, when he could be lying, once again, for credibility or because someone in BTSC advised him to change up his story.
I'm not calling it a slip-up, but it is as Golden said, a series of unfortunate events. I'm just open to the possibility of it being a fictional one.
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Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire
insertnamehere wrote:I'm not calling it a slip-up, but it is as Golden said, a series of unfortunate events. I'm just open to the possibility of it being a fictional one.
I'm going to have to ask you to cease and desist using that trademarked name!
Golden said "an unfortunate series of events".
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I think you have a tendency to suspect me, but here is a golden rule you can trust me to live by.insertnamehere wrote:I'm not calling it a slip-up, but it is as Golden said, a series of unfortunate events. I'm just open to the possibility of it being a fictional one.
Even when bad, I lie very very rarely. I don't create fictional stories. I heavily discourage teammates from doing it as well. Why? Because all it can do is lead to you getting caught in the lie. It's just a really poor strategy. There's a reason my baddie game is relatively successful, and it's because I leave as few threads to tug on as I possibly can.
Lies are reserved for things that can create a significant game advantage (and even then, you need to feel like its a safe lie), or for fake reads.
Having said that, I do see the advantage in lying to protect others from nks, as a civilian.
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I have no problem with people lying in order to protect the person with the actual map.
The part I have a problem with is fake-claimers taking votes away from the person with the REAL map, causing us to go places we don't want to go.
The part I have a problem with is fake-claimers taking votes away from the person with the REAL map, causing us to go places we don't want to go.
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MM, Golden, and 3J all want us to go to a different destination.
Only one of them will benefit the civilians (assuming whoever has the map is a civilian).
That's a problem.
Only one of them will benefit the civilians (assuming whoever has the map is a civilian).
That's a problem.
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I can appreciate that. I pledge not to use my position (whether or not I am the honest holder) to direct, but to inform.insertnamehere wrote:I have no problem with people lying in order to protect the person with the actual map.
The part I have a problem with is fake-claimers taking votes away from the person with the REAL map, causing us to go places we don't want to go.
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I understand now, INH. I think that'll sort itself out well enough as players determine who they trust, because even in a world where only one person made this claim there'd be no objective reason to trust them -- their possession of the map and their alignment aren't necessary agreeable.
I have the map. Those who believe that I have the civilians' best interests at heart can follow my lead. Those that don't should say so and we can talk about that. Otherwise, we forge on.
I have the map. Those who believe that I have the civilians' best interests at heart can follow my lead. Those that don't should say so and we can talk about that. Otherwise, we forge on.
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I think Golden's intentions seem honest in this dynamic and I have no issue with him. Marmot's claim came first, and I appreciate the expedience of his cover. So my early attentions are largely to be directed elsewhere.
Scotty's reception of my poo fling was rather smarmy. That isn't ideal.
Dyslexicon's reception of my poo fling was to return fire. In terms of personality that's actually closer to what was seen in the scrimmage.
I am already getting the impression that there are some nigh-silent baddies happening in here.
Scotty's reception of my poo fling was rather smarmy. That isn't ideal.
Dyslexicon's reception of my poo fling was to return fire. In terms of personality that's actually closer to what was seen in the scrimmage.
I am already getting the impression that there are some nigh-silent baddies happening in here.
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I don't see any reason to presume that particular options will benefit a particular faction at this stage.insertnamehere wrote:MM, Golden, and 3J all want us to go to a different destination.
Only one of them will benefit the civilians (assuming whoever has the map is a civilian).
That's a problem.
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I think you're inventing a problem where there isn't likely to be one, and you're suspecting people for it. This seems like a false way to have an opinion.insertnamehere wrote:MM, Golden, and 3J all want us to go to a different destination.
Only one of them will benefit the civilians (assuming whoever has the map is a civilian).
That's a problem.
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Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire
I trust JJJ the most, so I'm voting for northeast.
I think this dispute with INH is kind of silly and might just be people talking past each other -- I think he's saying completely reasonable things, and everyone else is also saying reasonable things, just from different standpoints. I don't read anything suspicious here.
I think this dispute with INH is kind of silly and might just be people talking past each other -- I think he's saying completely reasonable things, and everyone else is also saying reasonable things, just from different standpoints. I don't read anything suspicious here.
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Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire
You get a vote! You get a vote! Everyone gets a vote!
VOTALS:
Scotty (1): JJJ
Fredwood (1): DrWilgy
Strawhenge (1): MM
Silver Lantern (1): Soneji
JJJ (1): Dyslexicon
INH (1): Long Con
With 21 Alive, it takes 11 to Lynch, and 6 to soft lynch. Day 1 will end on 14th February, 2017 at 10pm EST, or in approx. 54 hours.
VOTALS:
Scotty (1): JJJ
Fredwood (1): DrWilgy
Strawhenge (1): MM
Silver Lantern (1): Soneji
JJJ (1): Dyslexicon
INH (1): Long Con
With 21 Alive, it takes 11 to Lynch, and 6 to soft lynch. Day 1 will end on 14th February, 2017 at 10pm EST, or in approx. 54 hours.
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I'll be making another thread for the end polls of each day once today endsSilver Lantern wrote:I am expecting the mafia will not vote as a block, at least not early.
That brings to mind, are the poll results stored anywhere or do I need to do a screenshot to retain that info?
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[VOTE:Long Con wrote:I think you're inventing a problem where there isn't likely to be one, and you're suspecting people for it. This seems like a false way to have an opinion.insertnamehere wrote:MM, Golden, and 3J all want us to go to a different destination.
Only one of them will benefit the civilians (assuming whoever has the map is a civilian).
That's a problem.
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Would you care to be specific in your complete discrediting of my posts, or do you expect to just say "nuh-uh," throw a vote my way and hope someone else bites?] aubergine
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I don't see it as anything other than normal inh either. I didn't feel like we were talking past each other, it felt like a conversation where we traded perspectives.nutella wrote:I trust JJJ the most, so I'm voting for northeast.
I think this dispute with INH is kind of silly and might just be people talking past each other -- I think he's saying completely reasonable things, and everyone else is also saying reasonable things, just from different standpoints. I don't read anything suspicious here.
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I don't see any reason to presume that the direction poll is completely irrelevant and cannot benefit either the civilians or the baddies.Golden wrote:I don't see any reason to presume that particular options will benefit a particular faction at this stage.insertnamehere wrote:MM, Golden, and 3J all want us to go to a different destination.
Only one of them will benefit the civilians (assuming whoever has the map is a civilian).
That's a problem.
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Yes, 3J is a great civilian. In general.nutella wrote:I trust JJJ the most, so I'm voting for northeast.
What makes you think he's civilian in this specific game? What makes you think Golden and MM are less clearly civilian?
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I agree. But it did read as though you made a presumption. At the moment, I think we should consider all options as open.insertnamehere wrote:I don't see any reason to presume that the direction poll is completely irrelevant and cannot benefit either the civilians or the baddies.Golden wrote:I don't see any reason to presume that particular options will benefit a particular faction at this stage.insertnamehere wrote:MM, Golden, and 3J all want us to go to a different destination.
Only one of them will benefit the civilians (assuming whoever has the map is a civilian).
That's a problem.
I also think that it's very difficult to know, or do anything, about a 'mafia-favouring' option at this early stage. But, it could become helpful information in hindsight later.
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Hey, guys. Little one deleted the email ap on my phone and I didn't notice. Catching up.
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Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire
Nothing really concrete as of yet. Just my inclination. I've found his posts to ring particularly true/genuine/well-intentioned, and I also think that he is probably the true map owner but I wasn't about to come out and say that... That's not to say I don't also think Golden and MM are probably also civ, especially with their efforts to mask the map mystery, I think they are both likely well-intentioned as well. As I said earlier, I'm just a little more wary of being fooled by Golden than by JJJ (in that I think it's happened before but my memory for mafia games is terrible so idk my reasoning could be flawed), and MM is always sort of an enigma to me. I could be misguided, but I'm getting a really good vibe from Jay as of now that at least slightly outweighs the good vibes I'm also getting from several others.insertnamehere wrote:Yes, 3J is a great civilian. In general.nutella wrote:I trust JJJ the most, so I'm voting for northeast.
What makes you think he's civilian in this specific game? What makes you think Golden and MM are less clearly civilian?
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I've never fooled anyone. I've never been bad.
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Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire
One of those statements is trueJaggedJimmyJay wrote:I've never fooled anyone. I've never been bad.
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Golden wrote:One of those statements is trueJaggedJimmyJay wrote:I've never fooled anyone. I've never been bad.
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Oh hey, I'm here. Catching up.
(I didn't get on last night because I was seeing John Wick, Ch.2, and it was baller.)
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Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire
On the contrary, I think it's pretty good D1 play. I support it. I also support flinging votes that cause discussion, suspicion, and pressure. I do not support shutting down lines of questioning that result in discussion, suspicion, and pressure. Which is what it seemed like you did.Long Con wrote:I think you're inventing a problem where there isn't likely to be one, and you're suspecting people for it. This seems like a false way to have an opinion.insertnamehere wrote:MM, Golden, and 3J all want us to go to a different destination.
Only one of them will benefit the civilians (assuming whoever has the map is a civilian).
That's a problem.
*lynch vote for INH*
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I wouldn't have that asinine daylong exercise of human emotion any other way.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I just realized that someone is going to get lynched on Valentine's Day. Romance is in the air.
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Thought so far: the debate between Quin and Jay over the Sorsha thing feels pretty weird. I'm wondering why, so early in the game, Quin doesn't just respond to Jay's question to Sorsha ('Do you really think all the women are town?') by saying, 'I think the question was fluff.'
I don't know what that could indicate at the moment, nor does it get my hackles up wert Quin or Jay. It just stood out as, very likely, an argument made of nothing. I've seen numerous similar conversations occur between townies in the past.
I'm literally just typing words right now because I feel guilty for my low post count and I better hit submit before this gets any worse.
I don't know what that could indicate at the moment, nor does it get my hackles up wert Quin or Jay. It just stood out as, very likely, an argument made of nothing. I've seen numerous similar conversations occur between townies in the past.
I'm literally just typing words right now because I feel guilty for my low post count and I better hit submit before this gets any worse.
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Ya li'l scamp. I mean, you're not wrong that you owe me a lynch vote or twenty.Metalmarsh89 wrote:I jsute rememberd Strawhenge is playing,
So for now, have my vote. Vote Strawhenge
I really owe you oen..
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I'm curious why Dyslexicon felt it necessary to respond to my fairly nothing-posts with just, 'No.'
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Hi Strawhenge. I thought you might like someone to break up your posts a little.
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Dyslexicon wrote:No.Strawhenge wrote:Oh hey. Thus begins paranoia. I remember this feeling. :')
No.Strawhenge wrote:Damn it, I didn't realize that the map votes are by pm.
So far we only have two non-self-nominations for getting the map. Golden for Jay, speedchuck for Quin, and I'm already wary of both of them. But this is Day 0; I'm wary of everything.
My kneejerk is to say that Jay should have the map, because if he's town, I trust him to make good use of it. But that's kneejerk.
I can honestly say that I will likely only be able to get on once a day this weekend, so I shouldn't get the map. Not if I infer correctly that having it would require me to be on more than possible. (Again, that's only for this weekend, I'll be on more after that.)
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Man, I appreciate it.Golden wrote:Hi Strawhenge. I thought you might like someone to break up your posts a little.
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Bad Guys R In Here:
Quin
Long Con
JOH
DrWilgy
Sorsha
speedchuck
Scotty
Elohcin
DFaraday
Dyslexicon
Nachomamma
Yeah it's a huge list. Don't care.
Quin
Long Con
JOH
DrWilgy
Sorsha
speedchuck
Scotty
Elohcin
DFaraday
Dyslexicon
Nachomamma
Yeah it's a huge list. Don't care.
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We have five scum to catch, and I only have three scum reads so far. Who hasn't posted yet? Let's kill them first. \o/
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I don't read this anywhere.Dyslexicon wrote:We have five scum to catch, and I only have three scum reads so far. Who hasn't posted yet? Let's kill them first. \o/
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Where the hell is the sirengif button. Someone add a sirengif button.Quin wrote:I don't read this anywhere.Dyslexicon wrote:We have five scum to catch, and I only have three scum reads so far. Who hasn't posted yet? Let's kill them first. \o/
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Again, Dyslexicon, I'd love a reason why you responded, 'No.' to some of my posts.
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I'm going to read through the original post again, but if you're right this is a great catch. This is what a real slip looks like.Quin wrote:I don't read this anywhere.Dyslexicon wrote:We have five scum to catch, and I only have three scum reads so far. Who hasn't posted yet? Let's kill them first. \o/
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Just Ctrl+F'd for 'five' and '5' and nothing came up.Golden wrote:I'm going to read through the original post again, but if you're right this is a great catch. This is what a real slip looks like.Quin wrote:I don't read this anywhere.Dyslexicon wrote:We have five scum to catch, and I only have three scum reads so far. Who hasn't posted yet? Let's kill them first. \o/
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Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire
There's nothing about a ratio either.Strawhenge wrote:Just Ctrl+F'd for 'five' and '5' and nothing came up.Golden wrote:I'm going to read through the original post again, but if you're right this is a great catch. This is what a real slip looks like.Quin wrote:I don't read this anywhere.Dyslexicon wrote:We have five scum to catch, and I only have three scum reads so far. Who hasn't posted yet? Let's kill them first. \o/
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Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire
I don't know if Syndicate indicates people as 'online' for a while after they log off, like on RYM, but Dyslexicon was 'browsing this forum' through to the start of pg.7, plus some minutes. FWIW.
Literally just some fucking guy.
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Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire
I don't like to take stock in that stuff, because there's no telling what people might be doing on their computers or phones with various other tabs open.Strawhenge wrote:I don't know if Syndicate indicates people as 'online' for a while after they log off, like on RYM, but Dyslexicon was 'browsing this forum' through to the start of pg.7, plus some minutes. FWIW.
If Dizzy already saw the accusation though, then the silence isn't ideal. There's a particular way civilians tend to respond to slip accusations and it isn't that.
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Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire
HeckQuin wrote:I don't read this anywhere.Dyslexicon wrote:We have five scum to catch, and I only have three scum reads so far. Who hasn't posted yet? Let's kill them first. \o/
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Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire
Good catch!
Now watch that just be an arbitrary number and there's actually 4.
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Now watch that just be an arbitrary number and there's actually 4.
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Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire
Some of my family went fishing yesterday and came back empty handed. I guess I got the good genes.
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Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire
Keep this one for sockys 2017.Quin wrote:Some of my family went fishing yesterday and came back empty handed. I guess I got the good genes.
Also, I read through the OP and didn't get any reference to five baddies either. It's quite dense, though.
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Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire
Request:
Regardless of your confidence level, please don't pile votes all over Dyslexicon and end Day 1 with a hammer vote. We have the advantage of an extension and I'd really prefer not to waste it. Whether he's mafia or not, his team's lives are made easier if this happens quickly.
No hammer vote.
Regardless of your confidence level, please don't pile votes all over Dyslexicon and end Day 1 with a hammer vote. We have the advantage of an extension and I'd really prefer not to waste it. Whether he's mafia or not, his team's lives are made easier if this happens quickly.
No hammer vote.
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