Phenon Mafia: ENDGAME - Snuffed

[Sloonei]

What do you think is the single most compelling point against Dyslexicon?

[insertnamehere]

QUESTION FOR EVERYONE:

Would you rather Dyslexicon be lynched, or no one be lynched?

I'll take somebody over nobody unless that somebody is me or someone I am 100% certain is town.

I'll state the obvious. You're one of the few active voters who is still up in the air.

I know you aren't voting MM. I'm trying to convince you to vote Dyslexicon. If we want to actually learn something from this day, we need to get something going here.

[Sloonei]

QUESTION FOR EVERYONE:

Would you rather Dyslexicon be lynched, or no one be lynched?

I'll take somebody over nobody unless that somebody is me or someone I am 100% certain is town.

I'll state the obvious. You're one of the few active voters who is still up in the air.

I know you aren't voting MM. I'm trying to convince you to vote Dyslexicon. If we want to actually learn something from this day, we need to get something going here.

I agree. I am trying very hard to figure out where my vote should go, but I'm feeling very scatterbrained right now.

[Silver Lantern]

Wish Scotty was still around. Still not clear on his stance with Dys.

Silver Lantern, have you read my case that I asked you to read? Is there a universe where you see yourself voting for Dys today? How can I make that reality into our reality?

If I vote for Dys, Would you be cool with me vigilanting you if he comes up town?

[insertnamehere]

What do you think is the single most compelling point against Dyslexicon?

His "slip" gambit failed to produce anything of real value, making it a pointless anti-civilian bit of frippery.

2nd most compelling point: His aggressive pursuit of people with neutral demeanors.

3rd most compelling point: His inconsistent reads on people.

4th most compelling point: His buddying up with percieved civ "power-players" like Golden.

[insertnamehere]

Wish Scotty was still around. Still not clear on his stance with Dys.

Silver Lantern, have you read my case that I asked you to read? Is there a universe where you see yourself voting for Dys today? How can I make that reality into our reality?

If I vote for Dys, Would you be cool with me vigilanting you if he comes up town?

Do you think if I'm wrong about Dys, I must be bad?

What about all the people who mislynched Sig? Why didn't you vigilante them?

[Silver Lantern]

I know you aren't voting MM. I'm trying to convince you to vote Dyslexicon. If we want to actually learn something from this day, we need to get something going here.

It boggles my mind how you people have no proble "learning something" by whittling down town #s, but yet asking someone to share a night result is like kissing a leper...

[insertnamehere]

Wish Scotty was still around. Still not clear on his stance with Dys.

Silver Lantern, have you read my case that I asked you to read? Is there a universe where you see yourself voting for Dys today? How can I make that reality into our reality?

If I vote for Dys, Would you be cool with me vigilanting you if he comes up town?

Do you think if I'm wrong about Dys, I must be bad?

What about all the people who mislynched Sig? Why didn't you vigilante them?

Or is this a patented Silver Lantern Vig Joke™ ?

[insertnamehere]

I know you aren't voting MM. I'm trying to convince you to vote Dyslexicon. If we want to actually learn something from this day, we need to get something going here.

It boggles my mind how you people have no proble "learning something" by whittling down town #s, but yet asking someone to share a night result is like kissing a leper...

Are you convinced Dys is town?

[Elohcin]

Quin, who should I vote for?

[Sloonei]

What do you think is the single most compelling point against Dyslexicon?

His "slip" gambit failed to produce anything of real value, making it a pointless anti-civilian bit of frippery.

I don't see this as a reason to suspect him. Like he has said, he's not responsible for the responses of others. Where I do see room to suspect him is in the lack of direction he exhibited himself in producing results, and at times he seems to have shrugged off the idea that he should have done more with it.

2nd most compelling point: His aggressive pursuit of people with neutral demeanors.

3rd most compelling point: His inconsistent reads on people.

4th most compelling point: His buddying up with percieved civ "power-players" like Golden.

These three kind of tie in for me. I know you covered it all in your ISO but I did not fully grasp all of your points at the time. I thought the neutral player observation had some merit and was intriguing, but on his "inconsistent" reads, like I said earlier, I never fault a person for changing their mind. I think that is a different thing than being inconsistent. Can you demonstrate to me how he's been inconsistent, as opposed to simply changing his mind?
And for the 4th point, I'd have to ask how again his behavior towards these players reads as "buddying" rather than simple townie cooperation?

[Quin]

Quin, who should I vote for?

I wouldn't recommend voted outside of those already on the poll. Decent cases have been made for everyone currently on it.

[Silver Lantern]

Wish Scotty was still around. Still not clear on his stance with Dys.

Silver Lantern, have you read my case that I asked you to read? Is there a universe where you see yourself voting for Dys today? How can I make that reality into our reality?

If I vote for Dys, Would you be cool with me vigilanting you if he comes up town?

Do you think if I'm wrong about Dys, I must be bad?

What about all the people who mislynched Sig? Why didn't you vigilante them?

*buzzer*

Not the confident townie answer I was hoping for. The right answer is, "I'm positive Dys is scum so I don't have any concern over you even having to consider if you'll vig me." So if you're not positive why are you trying to push his lynch?

P.S. Wigly was on Sig's lynch train.

[Quin]

What do you think is the single most compelling point against Dyslexicon?

His "slip" gambit failed to produce anything of real value, making it a pointless anti-civilian bit of frippery.

I don't see this as a reason to suspect him. Like he has said, he's not responsible for the responses of others. Where I do see room to suspect him is in the lack of direction he exhibited himself in producing results, and at times he seems to have shrugged off the idea that he should have done more with it.

2nd most compelling point: His aggressive pursuit of people with neutral demeanors.

3rd most compelling point: His inconsistent reads on people.

4th most compelling point: His buddying up with percieved civ "power-players" like Golden.

These three kind of tie in for me. I know you covered it all in your ISO but I did not fully grasp all of your points at the time. I thought the neutral player observation had some merit and was intriguing, but on his "inconsistent" reads, like I said earlier, I never fault a person for changing their mind. I think that is a different thing than being inconsistent. Can you demonstrate to me how he's been inconsistent, as opposed to simply changing his mind?
And for the 4th point, I'd have to ask how again his behavior towards these players reads as "buddying" rather than simple townie cooperation?

I made a summary of this point in my own points, have a look at it.

[insertnamehere]

Wish Scotty was still around. Still not clear on his stance with Dys.

Silver Lantern, have you read my case that I asked you to read? Is there a universe where you see yourself voting for Dys today? How can I make that reality into our reality?

If I vote for Dys, Would you be cool with me vigilanting you if he comes up town?

Do you think if I'm wrong about Dys, I must be bad?

What about all the people who mislynched Sig? Why didn't you vigilante them?

*buzzer*

Not the confident townie answer I was hoping for. The right answer is, "I'm positive Dys is scum so I don't have any concern over you even having to consider if you'll vig me." So if you're not positive why are you trying to push his lynch?

P.S. Wigly was on Sig's lynch train.

Only a Sith deals in absolutes, mothertrucker.

[Quin]

Wish Scotty was still around. Still not clear on his stance with Dys.

Silver Lantern, have you read my case that I asked you to read? Is there a universe where you see yourself voting for Dys today? How can I make that reality into our reality?

If I vote for Dys, Would you be cool with me vigilanting you if he comes up town?

Do you think if I'm wrong about Dys, I must be bad?

What about all the people who mislynched Sig? Why didn't you vigilante them?

*buzzer*

Not the confident townie answer I was hoping for. The right answer is, "I'm positive Dys is scum so I don't have any concern over you even having to consider if you'll vig me." So if you're not positive why are you trying to push his lynch?

P.S. Wigly was on Sig's lynch train.

Do you generally just not vote when you aren't certain about a lynch candidate?

[Sloonei]

What do you think is the single most compelling point against Dyslexicon?

His "slip" gambit failed to produce anything of real value, making it a pointless anti-civilian bit of frippery.

I don't see this as a reason to suspect him. Like he has said, he's not responsible for the responses of others. Where I do see room to suspect him is in the lack of direction he exhibited himself in producing results, and at times he seems to have shrugged off the idea that he should have done more with it.

2nd most compelling point: His aggressive pursuit of people with neutral demeanors.

3rd most compelling point: His inconsistent reads on people.

4th most compelling point: His buddying up with percieved civ "power-players" like Golden.

These three kind of tie in for me. I know you covered it all in your ISO but I did not fully grasp all of your points at the time. I thought the neutral player observation had some merit and was intriguing, but on his "inconsistent" reads, like I said earlier, I never fault a person for changing their mind. I think that is a different thing than being inconsistent. Can you demonstrate to me how he's been inconsistent, as opposed to simply changing his mind?
And for the 4th point, I'd have to ask how again his behavior towards these players reads as "buddying" rather than simple townie cooperation?

I made a summary of this point in my own points, have a look at it.

where?

[Quin]

What do you think is the single most compelling point against Dyslexicon?

His "slip" gambit failed to produce anything of real value, making it a pointless anti-civilian bit of frippery.

I don't see this as a reason to suspect him. Like he has said, he's not responsible for the responses of others. Where I do see room to suspect him is in the lack of direction he exhibited himself in producing results, and at times he seems to have shrugged off the idea that he should have done more with it.

2nd most compelling point: His aggressive pursuit of people with neutral demeanors.

3rd most compelling point: His inconsistent reads on people.

4th most compelling point: His buddying up with percieved civ "power-players" like Golden.

These three kind of tie in for me. I know you covered it all in your ISO but I did not fully grasp all of your points at the time. I thought the neutral player observation had some merit and was intriguing, but on his "inconsistent" reads, like I said earlier, I never fault a person for changing their mind. I think that is a different thing than being inconsistent. Can you demonstrate to me how he's been inconsistent, as opposed to simply changing his mind?
And for the 4th point, I'd have to ask how again his behavior towards these players reads as "buddying" rather than simple townie cooperation?

I made a summary of this point in my own points, have a look at it.

where?

In my posts, you lazy sod. Hang on

[Quin]

INH brings up an interesting point in that Dizzy had put Nacho down as her only null read. That seems like a rookie error, which she apparently is not, and given Dizzy's presence in the thread, I think it's likely she'd have spoken out against a Nacho kill for that specific reason.

I agree with INH for what he said about her fluctuating read on 3J. I'm not bothered by drops and rises of one or two tiers on a rainbow list, but to describe it as a roller coaster is correct. My interpretation of 3J's standing in the respective posts looks like this

1 A slight scum, for agreeing with me about the Sorsha discussion and voting 3J
2 Says he has no real scum-reads
3 A rainbow list where 3J is listed as his 2nd top town read. Justification is that he couldn't find anything suspicious about him
4 Slight scum, a cold read.

[Silver Lantern]

Wish Scotty was still around. Still not clear on his stance with Dys.

Silver Lantern, have you read my case that I asked you to read? Is there a universe where you see yourself voting for Dys today? How can I make that reality into our reality?

If I vote for Dys, Would you be cool with me vigilanting you if he comes up town?

Do you think if I'm wrong about Dys, I must be bad?

What about all the people who mislynched Sig? Why didn't you vigilante them?

*buzzer*

Not the confident townie answer I was hoping for. The right answer is, "I'm positive Dys is scum so I don't have any concern over you even having to consider if you'll vig me." So if you're not positive why are you trying to push his lynch?

P.S. Wigly was on Sig's lynch train.

Do you generally just not vote when you aren't certain about a lynch candidate?

I generally don't vote when I am suspicious of the person leading the lynch train...

[insertnamehere]

What do you think is the single most compelling point against Dyslexicon?

His "slip" gambit failed to produce anything of real value, making it a pointless anti-civilian bit of frippery.

I don't see this as a reason to suspect him. Like he has said, he's not responsible for the responses of others. Where I do see room to suspect him is in the lack of direction he exhibited himself in producing results, and at times he seems to have shrugged off the idea that he should have done more with it.

2nd most compelling point: His aggressive pursuit of people with neutral demeanors.

3rd most compelling point: His inconsistent reads on people.

4th most compelling point: His buddying up with percieved civ "power-players" like Golden.

These three kind of tie in for me. I know you covered it all in your ISO but I did not fully grasp all of your points at the time. I thought the neutral player observation had some merit and was intriguing, but on his "inconsistent" reads, like I said earlier, I never fault a person for changing their mind. I think that is a different thing than being inconsistent. Can you demonstrate to me how he's been inconsistent, as opposed to simply changing his mind?
And for the 4th point, I'd have to ask how again his behavior towards these players reads as "buddying" rather than simple townie cooperation?

You seem to at least half-way agree with the first two, and Quin has a response to the third.

RE: question on point 4
Stuff like voting for me immediately after Golden did, and trying to get Golden to publicly townread him. I feel like he's tried to cast his lot in with the hyperactive players not out of cooperation, but self-preservation.

[Silver Lantern]

Only a Sith deals in absolutes, mothertrucker.

I have no problems with Sith, as long as they're town.

BTW, I am probably going to Vig you just cause your avatar is so damn annoying... Just giving you fair notice.

[Quin]

I wouldn't expect anybody on this site to give what you'd expect as an answer. If someone did, I'd assume they had info.

[insertnamehere]

Wish Scotty was still around. Still not clear on his stance with Dys.

Silver Lantern, have you read my case that I asked you to read? Is there a universe where you see yourself voting for Dys today? How can I make that reality into our reality?

If I vote for Dys, Would you be cool with me vigilanting you if he comes up town?

Do you think if I'm wrong about Dys, I must be bad?

What about all the people who mislynched Sig? Why didn't you vigilante them?

*buzzer*

Not the confident townie answer I was hoping for. The right answer is, "I'm positive Dys is scum so I don't have any concern over you even having to consider if you'll vig me." So if you're not positive why are you trying to push his lynch?

P.S. Wigly was on Sig's lynch train.

Do you generally just not vote when you aren't certain about a lynch candidate?

I generally don't vote when I am suspicious of the person leading the lynch train...

Are you even gonna read my case, or are you just gonna assume it's BS because I wrote it?

Because that's pretty closed minded.

[Sloonei]

INH brings up an interesting point in that Dizzy had put Nacho down as her only null read. That seems like a rookie error, which she apparently is not, and given Dizzy's presence in the thread, I think it's likely she'd have spoken out against a Nacho kill for that specific reason.

I agree with INH for what he said about her fluctuating read on 3J. I'm not bothered by drops and rises of one or two tiers on a rainbow list, but to describe it as a roller coaster is correct. My interpretation of 3J's standing in the respective posts looks like this

1 A slight scum, for agreeing with me about the Sorsha discussion and voting 3J
2 Says he has no real scum-reads
3 A rainbow list where 3J is listed as his 2nd top town read. Justification is that he couldn't find anything suspicious about him
4 Slight scum, a cold read.

I still don't see evidence that this is an inconsistent thought process rather than a person simply changing their mind a couple of times. What would be the baddie motivation to change it up like that? Or do you believe Dyslexicon simply lost track of his own read on the most vocal player in the game? That would be a genuine slip.

[Marmot]

QUESTION FOR EVERYONE:

Would you rather Dyslexicon be lynched, or no one be lynched?

I'll take somebody over nobody unless that somebody is me or someone I am 100% certain is town.

I'll state the obvious. You're one of the few active voters who is still up in the air.

I know you aren't voting MM. I'm trying to convince you to vote Dyslexicon. If we want to actually learn something from this day, we need to get something going here.

I agree. I am trying very hard to figure out where my vote should go, but I'm feeling very scatterbrained right now.

Follow my lead.

Vote Lynch Metalmarsh89

[Sloonei]

What do you think is the single most compelling point against Dyslexicon?

His "slip" gambit failed to produce anything of real value, making it a pointless anti-civilian bit of frippery.

I don't see this as a reason to suspect him. Like he has said, he's not responsible for the responses of others. Where I do see room to suspect him is in the lack of direction he exhibited himself in producing results, and at times he seems to have shrugged off the idea that he should have done more with it.

2nd most compelling point: His aggressive pursuit of people with neutral demeanors.

3rd most compelling point: His inconsistent reads on people.

4th most compelling point: His buddying up with percieved civ "power-players" like Golden.

These three kind of tie in for me. I know you covered it all in your ISO but I did not fully grasp all of your points at the time. I thought the neutral player observation had some merit and was intriguing, but on his "inconsistent" reads, like I said earlier, I never fault a person for changing their mind. I think that is a different thing than being inconsistent. Can you demonstrate to me how he's been inconsistent, as opposed to simply changing his mind?
And for the 4th point, I'd have to ask how again his behavior towards these players reads as "buddying" rather than simple townie cooperation?

You seem to at least half-way agree with the first two, and Quin has a response to the third.

RE: question on point 4
Stuff like voting for me immediately after Golden did, and trying to get Golden to publicly townread him. I feel like he's tried to cast his lot in with the hyperactive players not out of cooperation, but self-preservation.

Where did he do this?

[Sloonei]

QUESTION FOR EVERYONE:

Would you rather Dyslexicon be lynched, or no one be lynched?

I'll take somebody over nobody unless that somebody is me or someone I am 100% certain is town.

I'll state the obvious. You're one of the few active voters who is still up in the air.

I know you aren't voting MM. I'm trying to convince you to vote Dyslexicon. If we want to actually learn something from this day, we need to get something going here.

I agree. I am trying very hard to figure out where my vote should go, but I'm feeling very scatterbrained right now.

Follow my lead.

Vote Lynch Metalmarsh89

No, he's town.

[insertnamehere]

Only a Sith deals in absolutes, mothertrucker.

I have no problems with Sith, as long as they're town.

BTW, I am probably going to Vig you just cause your avatar is so damn annoying... Just giving you fair notice.

no dale cooper appreciation, huh?

say what you will about Dyslexicon, but at least he values a good David Lynch reference when he sees it

[nutella]

INH and Quin are making me sad. Dys is the player I trust the most currently (or on about equal footing with Silver and Golden). I believe SO strongly that Dys is civ, I'd say even more so given the recent discussion -- especially their replies to Quin. I was thinking "amen" to everything Dys said in response to Quin's utterly ridiculous and nuance-lacking accusation that they haven't provided reads/reactions to the fakeslip when they so clearly have, and has generally acted very town.


I'm also disappointed in you, Sloonei. I'm glad you backed off of Scotty, since he's been hinting all game and that's part of why I believe he's probably town. But I thought you had said a couple pages back that you'd also be willing to vote for INH or Marmot, and now you don't seem to be considering that at all. I wish you would consider switching to Marmot, especially so close to the deadline when we're not even hitting the soft lynch threshold and he's our best shot.

lots of linki. Sloon can you give reasons you think MM is town?

[Marmot]

QUESTION FOR EVERYONE:

Would you rather Dyslexicon be lynched, or no one be lynched?

I'll take somebody over nobody unless that somebody is me or someone I am 100% certain is town.

I'll state the obvious. You're one of the few active voters who is still up in the air.

I know you aren't voting MM. I'm trying to convince you to vote Dyslexicon. If we want to actually learn something from this day, we need to get something going here.

I agree. I am trying very hard to figure out where my vote should go, but I'm feeling very scatterbrained right now.

Follow my lead.

Vote Lynch Metalmarsh89

No, he's town.

Let's try again.

Unvote

Vote Lynch Dyslexicon

[insertnamehere]

Sometimes I feel that Golden acts like I'm confirmed town.

Not sure exactly what you're seeing or how you mean this, but I tend to act like everyone is town. Even when I suspect someone on one hand, I don't want to ignore their perspective on things on the other, in case I'm wrong. I think I'm much better at figuring out who is town than who is bad, so this also aids my hunting approach.

It's not for how you interact with me (actually thinking about it, I don't think we've interacted much? Hi.), but more so in your analysis of votes and wagons and how people are treating me, it seems like you assume that I'm town. Both with the reactions to my fakeslip and in regards to the wagon on me. I don't know what this means, it's just a feeling I had and I wrote it out.

[speedchuck]

Do you have any more specific thoughts regarding Scotty and Metalmarsh?

Not caught up on the last bits. I think Scotty has been softly role hinting from D1, which I find more unlikely to come from scum. Though I'm not sure why he's doing it at all. I suspect Marmot more than Scotty, he seems aloof and none of the interactions I've had with him makes me feel good, and I remember him differently from the game I played here a while ago. Nut pushing on him also makes me feel better about my read.

SINCE WHEN IS MAGIC BAGGINS A TOWN MOVE

unvote Scotty

I am currently voting for nobody. Since he suggested in his latest post that he can prove his towniness with role shenanigans, I'm willing to give him a chance to do that.

You're gonna fall for that ploy? Wow, I take back anything good I ever said about you...

OH THANK GOD

I would prefer that Eloh be replaced, rather than lynched. Voting for her feels like a cop out at this point.

THANK YOU

QUESTION FOR EVERYONE:

Would you rather Dyslexicon be lynched, or no one be lynched?

NO

Yo, Elochin, I see you reading the thread.

Vote Dyslexicon.

Pretty please.

NO!

Wish Scotty was still around. Still not clear on his stance with Dys.

Silver Lantern, have you read my case that I asked you to read? Is there a universe where you see yourself voting for Dys today? How can I make that reality into our reality?

If I vote for Dys, Would you be cool with me vigilanting you if he comes up town?

DANGIT YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO REVEAL THAT YOU COULD DO THAT, EVEN JOKINGLY

I know you aren't voting MM. I'm trying to convince you to vote Dyslexicon. If we want to actually learn something from this day, we need to get something going here.

It boggles my mind how you people have no proble "learning something" by whittling down town #s, but yet asking someone to share a night result is like kissing a leper...

THANK YOU AS WELL

Sorry about all of the caps, it's a good way to tell my writing apart from the posts in notepad. Also the thread is falling apart holy crap.

Insertnamehere is chasing a lynch for possible town reasons, but in the scummiest way possible.
Sounds like him.

Gonna figure out where to go in the next 40 minutes. Happiest with a Scotty lynch (sorry scotty, but I don't know your meta, and everything you've said since I did my ISO screames at me for lynching)

QUESTION FOR EVERYONE:

Would you rather Dyslexicon be lynched, or no one be lynched?

I'll take somebody over nobody unless that somebody is me or someone I am 100% certain is town.

I'll state the obvious. You're one of the few active voters who is still up in the air.

I know you aren't voting MM. I'm trying to convince you to vote Dyslexicon. If we want to actually learn something from this day, we need to get something going here.

I agree. I am trying very hard to figure out where my vote should go, but I'm feeling very scatterbrained right now.

Follow my lead.

Vote Lynch Metalmarsh89

CRAP

[Quin]

INH brings up an interesting point in that Dizzy had put Nacho down as her only null read. That seems like a rookie error, which she apparently is not, and given Dizzy's presence in the thread, I think it's likely she'd have spoken out against a Nacho kill for that specific reason.

I agree with INH for what he said about her fluctuating read on 3J. I'm not bothered by drops and rises of one or two tiers on a rainbow list, but to describe it as a roller coaster is correct. My interpretation of 3J's standing in the respective posts looks like this

1 A slight scum, for agreeing with me about the Sorsha discussion and voting 3J
2 Says he has no real scum-reads
3 A rainbow list where 3J is listed as his 2nd top town read. Justification is that he couldn't find anything suspicious about him
4 Slight scum, a cold read.

I still don't see evidence that this is an inconsistent thought process rather than a person simply changing their mind a couple of times. What would be the baddie motivation to change it up like that? Or do you believe Dyslexicon simply lost track of his own read on the most vocal player in the game? That would be a genuine slip.

I think it's inconsistent. I'm willing to dismiss his initial vote for 3J as part of his 'I don't have any suspects' thing, because it's not the only instance where he's contradicted himself. But putting someone as a top town read because they couldn't find anything suspicious about them and then scum reading them justified only be it being a cold read feels inconsistent.

[Marmot]

INH and Quin are making me sad. Dys is the player I trust the most currently (or on about equal footing with Silver and Golden). I believe SO strongly that Dys is civ, I'd say even more so given the recent discussion -- especially their replies to Quin. I was thinking "amen" to everything Dys said in response to Quin's utterly ridiculous and nuance-lacking accusation that they haven't provided reads/reactions to the fakeslip when they so clearly have, and has generally acted very town.


I'm also disappointed in you, Sloonei. I'm glad you backed off of Scotty, since he's been hinting all game and that's part of why I believe he's probably town. But I thought you had said a couple pages back that you'd also be willing to vote for INH or Marmot, and now you don't seem to be considering that at all. I wish you would consider switching to Marmot, especially so close to the deadline when we're not even hitting the soft lynch threshold and he's our best shot.

lots of linki. Sloon can you give reasons you think MM is town?

If you could vote for anyone not named Metalmarsh89 or insertnamehere, who would you vote for?

[Silver Lantern]

lots of linki. Sloon can you give reasons you think MM is town?

No one would vote for themselves that close to the deadline if they were scum?

[Sloonei]

INH and Quin are making me sad. Dys is the player I trust the most currently (or on about equal footing with Silver and Golden). I believe SO strongly that Dys is civ, I'd say even more so given the recent discussion -- especially their replies to Quin. I was thinking "amen" to everything Dys said in response to Quin's utterly ridiculous and nuance-lacking accusation that they haven't provided reads/reactions to the fakeslip when they so clearly have, and has generally acted very town.


I'm also disappointed in you, Sloonei. I'm glad you backed off of Scotty, since he's been hinting all game and that's part of why I believe he's probably town. But I thought you had said a couple pages back that you'd also be willing to vote for INH or Marmot, and now you don't seem to be considering that at all. I wish you would consider switching to Marmot, especially so close to the deadline when we're not even hitting the soft lynch threshold and he's our best shot.

lots of linki. Sloon can you give reasons you think MM is town?

I never said I'd vote for INH and marmot. I ISO'd both of them because it was suggested that I do and I came out reading them both as town.

I've seen no reason not to view marmot as town. He's provided his thoughts and been inquisitive at points in the game. Not all the time, but I wouldn't expect him to be. What reasons do you have to read him as bad?

[nutella]

INH brings up an interesting point in that Dizzy had put Nacho down as her only null read. That seems like a rookie error, which she apparently is not, and given Dizzy's presence in the thread, I think it's likely she'd have spoken out against a Nacho kill for that specific reason.

I agree with INH for what he said about her fluctuating read on 3J. I'm not bothered by drops and rises of one or two tiers on a rainbow list, but to describe it as a roller coaster is correct. My interpretation of 3J's standing in the respective posts looks like this

1 A slight scum, for agreeing with me about the Sorsha discussion and voting 3J
2 Says he has no real scum-reads
3 A rainbow list where 3J is listed as his 2nd top town read. Justification is that he couldn't find anything suspicious about him
4 Slight scum, a cold read.

I still don't see evidence that this is an inconsistent thought process rather than a person simply changing their mind a couple of times. What would be the baddie motivation to change it up like that? Or do you believe Dyslexicon simply lost track of his own read on the most vocal player in the game? That would be a genuine slip.

Tbh, this is the one point that I keep waffling on that could convince me that Dys could be bad, and to me it would entail that JJJ is his teammate. But I'd only be willing to entertain that possibility after determining Marmot's and/or INH's alignment.

[Silver Lantern]

Spoiler: show

QUESTION FOR EVERYONE:

Would you rather Dyslexicon be lynched, or no one be lynched?

I'll take somebody over nobody unless that somebody is me or someone I am 100% certain is town.

I'll state the obvious. You're one of the few active voters who is still up in the air.

I know you aren't voting MM. I'm trying to convince you to vote Dyslexicon. If we want to actually learn something from this day, we need to get something going here.

I agree. I am trying very hard to figure out where my vote should go, but I'm feeling very scatterbrained right now.

Follow my lead.

Vote Lynch Metalmarsh89

No, he's town.

Let's try again.

Unvote

Vote Lynch Dyslexicon

[Sloonei]

lots of linki. Sloon can you give reasons you think MM is town?

No one would vote for themselves that close to the deadline if they were scum?

No person would, no. But a marmot might.

[Marmot]

lots of linki. Sloon can you give reasons you think MM is town?

No one would vote for themselves that close to the deadline if they were scum?

Why not?

Isn't that the perfect reason to make such a move?

[speedchuck]

lots of linki. Sloon can you give reasons you think MM is town?

No one would vote for themselves that close to the deadline if they were scum?

Clearly a joke, but I'm inclined to agree with you. Also makes INH look better because if they're scum, they somehow aren't worried about buddying. Like, it's all too bold and brazen to be scum.

Still hate the way INH tries to pursue lynches.

[Elohcin]

Quin, who should I vote for?

I wouldn't recommend voted outside of those already on the poll. Decent cases have been made for everyone currently on it.

and who would that be?

[Quin]

INH and Quin are making me sad. Dys is the player I trust the most currently (or on about equal footing with Silver and Golden). I believe SO strongly that Dys is civ, I'd say even more so given the recent discussion -- especially their replies to Quin. I was thinking "amen" to everything Dys said in response to Quin's utterly ridiculous and nuance-lacking accusation that they haven't provided reads/reactions to the fakeslip when they so clearly have, and has generally acted very town.

If you think this then you'll surely show me where this is the case, because she didn't.

I'm also disappointed in you, Sloonei. I'm glad you backed off of Scotty, since he's been hinting all game and that's part of why I believe he's probably town. But I thought you had said a couple pages back that you'd also be willing to vote for INH or Marmot, and now you don't seem to be considering that at all. I wish you would consider switching to Marmot, especially so close to the deadline when we're not even hitting the soft lynch threshold and he's our best shot.

lots of linki. Sloon can you give reasons you think MM is town?

I am looking specifically at your reasons for voting marmot. Should I be?

[insertnamehere]

INH brings up an interesting point in that Dizzy had put Nacho down as her only null read. That seems like a rookie error, which she apparently is not, and given Dizzy's presence in the thread, I think it's likely she'd have spoken out against a Nacho kill for that specific reason.

I agree with INH for what he said about her fluctuating read on 3J. I'm not bothered by drops and rises of one or two tiers on a rainbow list, but to describe it as a roller coaster is correct. My interpretation of 3J's standing in the respective posts looks like this

1 A slight scum, for agreeing with me about the Sorsha discussion and voting 3J
2 Says he has no real scum-reads
3 A rainbow list where 3J is listed as his 2nd top town read. Justification is that he couldn't find anything suspicious about him
4 Slight scum, a cold read.

I still don't see evidence that this is an inconsistent thought process rather than a person simply changing their mind a couple of times. What would be the baddie motivation to change it up like that? Or do you believe Dyslexicon simply lost track of his own read on the most vocal player in the game? That would be a genuine slip.

Tbh, this is the one point that I keep waffling on that could convince me that Dys could be bad, and to me it would entail that JJJ is his teammate. But I'd only be willing to entertain that possibility after determining Marmot's and/or INH's alignment.

What about if we just go ahead and lynch Dys, then you can figure out me and Marmot's alignment?

I'm just looking at the same problem you are from a different angle.

Also, didn't you just say Quin's case against Dizzy "lacked all nuance" or something?

[speedchuck]

What about if we just go ahead and lynch Dys, then you can figure out me and Marmot's alignment?

What is I think you're all three town ATM

[Quin]

Quin, who should I vote for?

I wouldn't recommend voted outside of those already on the poll. Decent cases have been made for everyone currently on it.

and who would that be?

I won't tell you that. I'd rather you make a decision on your own.

[insertnamehere]

lots of linki. Sloon can you give reasons you think MM is town?

No one would vote for themselves that close to the deadline if they were scum?

Clearly a joke, but I'm inclined to agree with you. Also makes INH look better because if they're scum, they somehow aren't worried about buddying. Like, it's all too bold and brazen to be scum.

Still hate the way INH tries to pursue lynches.

[Marmot]

What about if we just go ahead and lynch Dys, then you can figure out me and Marmot's alignment?

What is I think you're all three town ATM

I don't understand.

Your last rainbow says otherwise.

[Quin]

INH brings up an interesting point in that Dizzy had put Nacho down as her only null read. That seems like a rookie error, which she apparently is not, and given Dizzy's presence in the thread, I think it's likely she'd have spoken out against a Nacho kill for that specific reason.

I agree with INH for what he said about her fluctuating read on 3J. I'm not bothered by drops and rises of one or two tiers on a rainbow list, but to describe it as a roller coaster is correct. My interpretation of 3J's standing in the respective posts looks like this

1 A slight scum, for agreeing with me about the Sorsha discussion and voting 3J
2 Says he has no real scum-reads
3 A rainbow list where 3J is listed as his 2nd top town read. Justification is that he couldn't find anything suspicious about him
4 Slight scum, a cold read.

I still don't see evidence that this is an inconsistent thought process rather than a person simply changing their mind a couple of times. What would be the baddie motivation to change it up like that? Or do you believe Dyslexicon simply lost track of his own read on the most vocal player in the game? That would be a genuine slip.

Tbh, this is the one point that I keep waffling on that could convince me that Dys could be bad, and to me it would entail that JJJ is his teammate. But I'd only be willing to entertain that possibility after determining Marmot's and/or INH's alignment.

Why would a marmot or INH lynch solidify your feelings on Dys and 3J?