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Tbh, both Opt and LoRab could in principle try to deny each other the chance of winning, by not making it in the Final 3, but I think they could face a tough match against Quin afterwards, either way.
Still can't believe I named a completely random winner when there were 7 or 8 left and here she is, in the final at least.
Still can't believe I named a completely random winner when there were 7 or 8 left and here she is, in the final at least.
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It seems to me Opt has the best chance of winning if it goes to jury so if I were Sorsha, Quin or Lorab I think that's who I'd vote for. Of course, I have the advantage of seeing what the jury members have said.
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Oh no! Lorab is trying to say Quin poisoned her. I wonder if she really believes that or is just trying to turn the group against Quin.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:24 pm Always good to remember that there is no such thing as a Mafia circumstance that is worth real human emotion. Sometimes it will naturally come out, but it can be contained if we just remember that this is a game on a message board forum that 99.99% of the population of the Earth has never heard of before. No matter how successful anyone is, it means just about nothing.
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The latter, most surely.
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If Opt and Quin are in the final 3:
would you give the game to the person who won the most individual immunity challenge
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would you give the game to the person whose role allowed them to find a near infinite supply of immunity idols?
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I have to agree with the Ponderosians that LoRabs hangup on this poison shctick might sink her game
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It's fairly obvious that Elo poisoned them, so I'm not even sure what the hang up is.DharmaHelper wrote:I have to agree with the Ponderosians that LoRabs hangup on this poison shctick might sink her game
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I think SVS is right in that LoRab is angling to get people against Quin...
Though the better play would be "Hey Eloh, hey Opt, Mamana for life lets all 3 vote for Quin"
Though the better play would be "Hey Eloh, hey Opt, Mamana for life lets all 3 vote for Quin"
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But Sorsha is in, not EloDharmaHelper wrote:I think SVS is right in that LoRab is angling to get people against Quin...
Though the better play would be "Hey Eloh, hey Opt, Mamana for life lets all 3 vote for Quin"
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The former, overall.DharmaHelper wrote:If Opt and Quin are in the final 3:
would you give the game to the person who won the most individual immunity challenge
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would you give the game to the person whose role allowed them to find a near infinite supply of immunity idols?
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Oh right, oops. I forgot.Scotty wrote:But Sorsha is in, not EloDharmaHelper wrote:I think SVS is right in that LoRab is angling to get people against Quin...
Though the better play would be "Hey Eloh, hey Opt, Mamana for life lets all 3 vote for Quin"
The better play would still be to vote Quin, though I suspect a 2-2.
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Sorsha going for the jugular, woo!
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If it's Sorsha/Quin/Lorab that's a tough call. I guess I'd give it to Quin, but his role was way too strong.
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I think I'd be happy with an Opt/Quin/Sorsha final 3.
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Sorsha and LoRab are discussing in BTSC which of Quin or Opt would be most likely to vote the other. Right now they've sorta agreed on appealing to Quin to vote out Opt. It's interesting that the question then isn't, "who would be the biggest threat at the end", but "who would help vote out the other."
It's currently looking like a 2-2 split of LoRab/Opt unless someone changes something in the thread.
It's currently looking like a 2-2 split of LoRab/Opt unless someone changes something in the thread.
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That is interesting. I think Opt is the biggest threat. I'll enjoy any of the three who make it to the final.Scotty wrote:Sorsha and LoRab are discussing in BTSC which of Quin or Opt would be most likely to vote the other. Right now they've sorta agreed on appealing to Quin to vote out Opt. It's interesting that the question then isn't, "who would be the biggest threat at the end", but "who would help vote out the other."
It's currently looking like a 2-2 split of LoRab/Opt unless someone changes something in the thread.
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Opt deserves to win, but the other 3 probably think that's the best reason not to take her.
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Quin stated in BTSC several times that he'd rather have competitors who showed up to play sitting in the end. I think he wants Opt there next to himDharmaHelper wrote:Opt deserves to win, but the other 3 probably think that's the best reason not to take her.
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Opt is in a bad spot for that because if she were to jump ship now and vote Quin, she will have alienated a ton of people on the juryScotty wrote:Quin stated in BTSC several times that he'd rather have competitors who showed up to play sitting in the end. I think he wants Opt there next to himDharmaHelper wrote:Opt deserves to win, but the other 3 probably think that's the best reason not to take her.
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Yeah the "turncoat" ain't usually rewarded in these types of shows.Scotty wrote:Opt is in a bad spot for that because if she were to jump ship now and vote Quin, she will have alienated a ton of people on the juryScotty wrote:Quin stated in BTSC several times that he'd rather have competitors who showed up to play sitting in the end. I think he wants Opt there next to himDharmaHelper wrote:Opt deserves to win, but the other 3 probably think that's the best reason not to take her.
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Glad to see Quin is fighting back against Lorab. So odd that she thinks people don't see that Eloh did the poisoning. Also odd that she's attacking if she and Sorsha want Quin to do something, namely vote Opt.
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It would appear that maybe she started with the intention of putting it on Quin to see if Opt would want to vote her.juliets wrote:Glad to see Quin is fighting back against Lorab. So odd that she thinks people don't see that Eloh did the poisoning. Also odd that she's attacking if she and Sorsha want Quin to do something, namely vote Opt.
Or, she truly believes Elo wouldn't do that in a LMS game and then
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Opt giving a speech on loyalty might be even funnier than King Negan
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Opt and Lorab saying "I dont know what to do" when if they just agreed to vote for Quin they'd be at least 50/50 fine.. Come on guys!
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1.5 hours til deadline and I have received only 1 vote.
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I vote SorshaScotty wrote:1.5 hours til deadline and I have received only 1 vote.
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WHERS DA POST
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Thar.
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If Opt loses to Quin or Sorsha it will have been a robbery.
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I think each of them has reasons why they would make a good winner. I hope it is a close vote.DharmaHelper wrote:If Opt loses to Quin or Sorsha it will have been a robbery.
And wow Lorab ate the chicken? I thought Scotty said Quin ate it, I must have misunderstood. Lorab ate it for a good reason though if what she says is true.
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Do real life jury members discuss their vote option openly? I think this shouldn't be allowed in Ponderosa. It could be so easy to rally up or influence another's vote.
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I dunno about survivor, but in Big Brother the jury gets 1 night to talk out among themselves who might deserve the votes
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I dunno how Quin can say with a straight face his power didn't carry him all the way to the end when you look at how many idols he had and how many times his idol saved his bacon. His "biggest move" in getting me out was solely because he had an idol.
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Here's where this game and the real game slightly differ:Ricochet wrote:Do real life jury members discuss their vote option openly? I think this shouldn't be allowed in Ponderosa. It could be so easy to rally up or influence another's vote.
Because tribal comes directly after Lorab was voted out, I thought it h fair to LORab to not be able to discuss with her fellow jurors her thoughts.
What does happen in the real life ponderosa is people do mingle and rally for their prospective vote before tribal, discuss what they're going to talk about, etc. This is a mechanic that the jury has but doesn't always have to play with.
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No, Quin had trouble with the digging portion of yesterday's challenge so I made fun of him in my post. Someone in Ponderosa took that to mean he ate the chicken.juliets wrote:I think each of them has reasons why they would make a good winner. I hope it is a close vote.DharmaHelper wrote:If Opt loses to Quin or Sorsha it will have been a robbery.
And wow Lorab ate the chicken? I thought Scotty said Quin ate it, I must have misunderstood. Lorab ate it for a good reason though if what she says is true.
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In Survivor, after each jury member asks a question, they all secretly vote and it's done. Though you'll hear in Ponderosa videos of the people that will not vote in the endDharmaHelper wrote:I dunno about survivor, but in Big Brother the jury gets 1 night to talk out among themselves who might deserve the votes
Also lol at INH stealing your Negan schtick
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Remember that talk about bitter juries I had early on this thread?
Yeah, it's still a thing
Yeah, it's still a thing
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I prefer to think of it not as stealing, but as carrying on the legacy.Scotty wrote:In Survivor, after each jury member asks a question, they all secretly vote and it's done. Though you'll hear in Ponderosa videos of the people that will not vote in the endDharmaHelper wrote:I dunno about survivor, but in Big Brother the jury gets 1 night to talk out among themselves who might deserve the votes
Also lol at INH stealing your Negan schtick
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Oh ok.Scotty wrote:Here's where this game and the real game slightly differ:Ricochet wrote:Do real life jury members discuss their vote option openly? I think this shouldn't be allowed in Ponderosa. It could be so easy to rally up or influence another's vote.
Because tribal comes directly after Lorab was voted out, I thought it h fair to LORab to not be able to discuss with her fellow jurors her thoughts.
What does happen in the real life ponderosa is people do mingle and rally for their prospective vote before tribal, discuss what they're going to talk about, etc. This is a mechanic that the jury has but doesn't always have to play with.
I'm just of the mentality that, mingle and all, it wouldn't (or I wouldn't like for it to) influence my decision. I'd only be judging the ones in the final 2 or 3 chairs.
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I forgot to add that every juror in BB apart from the last gets to participate in that group discussion. The last juror is usually eliminated the night of the finale, so they only get their questionsScotty wrote:In Survivor, after each jury member asks a question, they all secretly vote and it's done. Though you'll hear in Ponderosa videos of the people that will not vote in the endDharmaHelper wrote:I dunno about survivor, but in Big Brother the jury gets 1 night to talk out among themselves who might deserve the votes
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<doesn't care much about Survivor irl
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Hey, I watch more Big Brother than Survivor, but I care about both equally.
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Maybe it's just my personal preference but I can't see how anyone can not choose Opt to win the game. She played the social game like a pro, adapting to the loss of a strong ally in myself. She rode another strong ally (Golden) and had the sense/balls to cut him loose. And she won the majority of immunity challenges (even ones she had no role advantage in)
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She can lose based on butthurt effect. INH and Epig seem way more detached, but don't know about the rest.DharmaHelper wrote:Maybe it's just my personal preference but I can't see how anyone can not choose Opt to win the game. She played the social game like a pro, adapting to the loss of a strong ally in myself. She rode another strong ally (Golden) and had the sense/balls to cut him loose. And she won the majority of immunity challenges (even ones she had no role advantage in)
I still sort of suspect a bitter jury maj on this one.
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Preach it. I dunno why the jury is so bitter, man. If ya got played ya got played. I'm not mad at Quin for doing me like he did. From a game move, it was a good one. Not a great one, and definitely not a game winner, but a good move.Ricochet wrote:She can lose based on butthurt effect. INH and Epig seem way more detached, but don't know about the rest.DharmaHelper wrote:Maybe it's just my personal preference but I can't see how anyone can not choose Opt to win the game. She played the social game like a pro, adapting to the loss of a strong ally in myself. She rode another strong ally (Golden) and had the sense/balls to cut him loose. And she won the majority of immunity challenges (even ones she had no role advantage in)
I still sort of suspect a bitter jury maj on this one.
I just think that Quin doesn't deserve a win because he essentially had a skeleton key to the final four. And Sorsha played a good enough game, but really didn't make any move. When your best strategy is no strategy at all, then you shouldn't be sitting at the end.
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I don't think the Quin power role complaint is fair, just like the Opt power role complaint isn't either. Quin didn't use idols every tribal council. The others didn't eliminate him when he didn't. Their loss. Opt didn't win every challenge ever. In fact, she lost the very last one. She was left in the game.
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