Mass Effect Mafia (END)

#2401

sprityo wrote: -Jack* - I take back what i said earlier about jack looking better. My gut is coming back with a reminder that the longer he is in here, the less im gonna want to lynch him. I think if we lynch jack, we would be able to focus more on others since he has been a suspicion of a few people for a decent amount of time now.[/color]

Are you that feeble-minded, meat sack, that you cannot "focus more" on others while he is alive?

#2402

You should always trust Nifty more than Nutella.

Nutella could be scum vouching for town Nifty cause she knows lynching Nifty would result in a town flip and get her killed.

Nutella cannot be town vouching for scum Nifty because there's no reason to do that.

Nutella could be scum vouching for scum Nifty cause duh.

#2403

Epignosis wrote:
sprityo wrote: -Jack* - I take back what i said earlier about jack looking better. My gut is coming back with a reminder that the longer he is in here, the less im gonna want to lynch him. I think if we lynch jack, we would be able to focus more on others since he has been a suspicion of a few people for a decent amount of time now.[/color]
Are you that feeble-minded, meat sack, that you cannot "focus more" on others while he is alive?

#2404

sprityo wrote:Rainbow list

-SNIP-

-Jack*

Ones with an asterisk are ones i didnt check ISOs for.

#2405

I applied my rainbow list to the past votes, this is what i got:

Confirmed town (dead)
Basically confirmed town
Light town
Null
Mafia
Cerberus
Reapers
Independents

Day 1 Votes

Spoiler: show

Day 2

Spoiler: show

Day 3

Spoiler: show

Day 4

Spoiler: show

#2406

sprityo wrote:
sprityo wrote:Rainbow list

-SNIP-

-Jack*

Ones with an asterisk are ones i didnt check ISOs for.

The fact that you haven't ISOed me is not my objection, nor Epi's.

#2407

my point being it's a crappy reason because it's a lazy one. I feel my gut is right and i'll stick by it

#2408

in fact

Vote: Jack

What was the question we asked yesterday? "Why should we NOT lynch jack?"

#2409

I am going to read through MP. I've seen this shtick before more than once.

Busy busy busy OMG haha suckers.

Sorry. Busy doesn't buy you anything anymore.

#2410

sprityo wrote:in fact

Vote: Jack

What was the question we asked yesterday? "Why should we NOT lynch jack?"

Because neither Silver Lantern nor GFish would have been lynched without me. Additionally, I was silenced after having the second most votes two days in a row.

A question I'm still waiting for an answer to is why people keep trying to lynch me in spite of the above statement and why they never seem to have an actual argument for me to address.

You usually scumhunt on gut alone? I mean seriously. At least give me some kinda tinfoil for why I am bad. You're Long Conning away every bit of confidence I have in you.

#2411

before i answer that, let me look up the roles

how many possibilities are there for a player to be silenced?

#2412

scratch that i missed a role, Matriarch Benezia (Reapers)

was thinking of the cerberus role, which was only a two shot

#2413

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:
sprityo wrote:in fact

Vote: Jack

What was the question we asked yesterday? "Why should we NOT lynch jack?"
Because neither Silver Lantern nor GFish would have been lynched without me. Additionally, I was silenced after having the second most votes two days in a row.

A question I'm still waiting for an answer to is why people keep trying to lynch me in spite of the above statement and why they never seem to have an actual argument for me to address.

You usually scumhunt on gut alone? i feel it plays an integral part of how i play mafia, so yeah, it's there I mean seriously. At least give me some kinda tinfoil for why I am bad. You're Long Conning away every bit of confidence I have in you.

let me do your ISO then.

In the meantime, all i can say is if youre so confident that you've played a more than enough town play, why worry about a negative opinion being thrown towards you, a gut read at that?

#2414

Also Jack, while i rummage through your 250+ posts, could you at least give me opinions on other players? I dont recall anything from you recently aside from you trying to validate to everyone that brings up that they find you not town, why you are in fact town.

#2415

Clearly I'm a liar perpetually underestimating available time and should have gotten replaced. I still may, but I'm not sure the hosts even have one available and ready. I'll be around Monday if that doesn't happen. Sorry.

#2416

MovingPictures07 wrote:Clearly I'm a liar perpetually underestimating available time and should have gotten replaced. I still may, but I'm not sure the hosts even have one available and ready. I'll be around Monday if that doesn't happen. Sorry.

I think Speedchuck said he might want to replace in? figuring he doesnt already have his mafia platter full

#2417

*sigh* yknow as much as i want to do this

i dont

So that's how im gonna leave it

Jack is not my priority right now. But he's the itch that wont go away.

That just begs the question however, where do our OTHER priorities reside? I dont want us to be stuck on the issue of Jack, but it's day 5, so if it come down to it, i guess then everyone will have to be questioning who is who.

And on that note, im going to be voting Immortal_Raven until he answer's my question.

As i see it, Immortal_Raven is suspect to be Reaper, and I suspect Adam/Marmot to be Cerberus

#2418

insertnamehere is replacing MovingPictures07.

#2419

Alright I'm hoping to see some activity today, we've got 8 hours left in the day and I'm still pumped

#2420

sprityo wrote:I_R what were your other night action targets?

I had none. I used my one-off on you after Silver flipped as scum. That completely changed my opinion of Wilgy as he was heavily involved in both Silver and gfish getting lynched, both scum but opposite factions. He had suspected you late in the day Silver got lynched so I started there.

I have no other night powers and even my one-shot didn't come to fruition.

#2421

sprityo wrote:Also Jack, while i rummage through your 250+ posts, could you at least give me opinions on other players? I dont recall anything from you recently aside from you trying to validate to everyone that brings up that they find you not town, why you are in fact town.

It's not my fault you aren't reading my posts about other players.

#2422

Pretty sure Sprityo is bad.

SVS has been all over me all game and I hate it but at least it is somewhat consistent.

Sprityo was all about suddenly trusting me when I came out with the five confirmed townies thing but now that two of them are dead, I'm a top lynch priority and a distraction from getting anything else done. Like you know what's really distracting to me? Scummers pretending they suspect me.

#2423

1. I didn't say I trusted you, I said I feel better about you.
2. You're being SUPER paranoid and OMGUS to anyone that is suspecting you, looks a lot worse tbh.

@I_R alright, you passed my little test. I feel a little better about you to the point of moving you to a null

#2424

Spoiler: show

Tldr: Back to null on Sprit. Time to do my homework.

#2425

Man, I wish Fred would vote for someone besides himself.

He was silenced and had his vote stolen that would really suck.

Jack, I'm unsure on sprityo as well, but I can't seem to place him in either the Reaper or Cerberus faction.

Honestly, I thought we were looking good, until the double kill last night. I'm still not sure how that happened, other than a townie screw-up, or someone (likely Thane) tried to use their one-shot kill and got misdirected?

This is what I get from that.

The Catalyst is in the game. Which means the Reapers also have either Saren or Benezia.

Cerberus still has the Illusive Man and either Eva Core or Henry Lawson. If Benezia is in the game then Lawson isn't and visa versa.

#2426

CaptainNifty wrote:
Jack, I'm unsure on sprityo as well, but I can't seem to place him in either the Reaper or Cerberus faction.

Reaper
Cerberus
Alliance?

#2427

Seriously - NO ONE that is voting me was able to answer whether they think I'm Cebrerus or Reaper? Can you all just do it or say you don't know so I can actually do something useful? Please, and thank you.

Jack, can you please stop OMGUSing everyone that suspects you? Please and thank you. THIS is what I have the most problem with regarding your play this game. Plus, your whole game start looked like scum tao dancing around accusations. You're doing anything you can to have people off of your case. It's annoying if it works throughout the game and you are scum, cause you've been saying things regarding me that are outright lies.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:@Dizzy

You're asking a lot of questions that have been answered. Glad you're back but you'll be more convincing if you catch up first. You can ISO me for a recent summary I gave MP and start from there if you have to.

Then answer them again, they are not hard. I do not believe Nifty and Nut has gotten those questions before. I do not have the time to get caught up with the game, that is just reality for me right now. I'll spend my time go look at what I find interesting, and if I ask questions that are simple to answer, I hope town will be cooperative enough to actually answer them instead of just say that it's been said before.

Here is what you said about me a while back:

Dizzy hasn't been interested in catching scum, imo. They've floated from lynch train to lynch train, seemingly happy to lynch anybody. I've had Dizzy down as LMS but wasn't too scared of the LMS roles since they are relatively weak. LC's flip and the above reasoning behind Epi being neutral means Dizzy can't be a LMS. This means Dizzy is town or scum. I'm not seeing Phenon town Dizzy. I'm seeing coasting. I'm seeing "tunneling". I'm seeing no gambits. I'm seeing few gifs. I'm seeing no hunting. This leads me to believe Dizzy is mafia. With 8 living town roles and 5 of them identified and 1 living neutral role that is also identified, there are only 3 good guys of all the players I don't know. If I assume you or Nutella or Sprityo or MP are town, that makes Dizzy look even more likely to be mafia. I want mafia gone most of all.

You claim:
1. I'm coasting ang seem happy with any lynch train/happy lynching anybody.
2. I'm tunneling (directly contradicts the first statement).
3. You find my play here unlike that of Phenon? Oh shocking. The game I put myself at the center of discussion and actually had time playing. I'm offering you, Jack, as if you are in fact town, a golden opportunity to go look at my scum game I JUST PLAYED here and tell me if you are seeing that. You using Phenon as an excuse to go after me is terrible, I had a very unique position from early on in that game.
4. Are you freaking serious about the gifs.
I'm pretty sure you've insinuated I wanted cred or something from whatever scum lynch you think I'm on a team with. If I had wanted credit I'd be shouting for their heads loud and clear. Like it or not, I've identified and helped lynched two scum. You can say I'm not a big presence which is my own fault, but that is not my scum game (nor my town game), that is me having a life outside of here. You are pulling in all sorts of crap to make your read on me and THAT looks super bad on you. If you are ever town I want you to look at my wagon, and see who started following you on your scum read on me. There's been players who's been calling ME opportunistic. And this is where my patience ends, where I start going sour and just care less about who wins or loses this game. Which is a dumb way to play, but right now I don't care all that much. You should go through Nifty's and Nut's interaction btw. If you're Reaper they will be a threat to you. You're welcome.

Spoiler: show

1. Sloppy fishing.
2. Nifty and Nut are scum, almost certainly cerberus.
3. I guess Reapers are up for grabs, but Jack is a good candidate. I will look through SVS's progression on me, cause that looks severly opportunistic to me from mind, even though I've been reading her town on the surface. I guess you and Adam would be the most likely to be town.

#2428

@Jack, @Epi, @Nut, @Raven - What factions do you think I'm in? Please give reasons for your votes with your own words.

@Nufty - Who did you target last night? Can they vouch for your innocence? If you don't want to answer this question, give a reason for it.

#2429

I have a complete opposite view on Adam that you do, what are you seeing that I'm not?

#2430

Quick cultural question; do you HCR folks mainly use others interactions with oneself to judge the actions of others?

#2431

S~V~S wrote:Quick cultural question; do you HCR folks mainly use others interactions with oneself to judge the actions of others?

Only players who think really highly of themselves.

#2432

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Quick cultural question; do you HCR folks mainly use others interactions with oneself to judge the actions of others?
Only players who think really highly of themselves.

OK

Cause you did it

, SIlver did it and now Dizzy is doing it. People who suspect them shoot up to their suspect list. And now that I stopped actively talking about you, I seem to have dropped off of your list. For us that is somewhat of a baddie tell in general, but it could be a cultural thing, which is why I asked.

Gonna join you in a *Vote for Dizzy* since Easter festivities are now commencing at Chez SVS, and not sure what is going to happen with the update this PM (probably nothing, I am sure it will go smoothly) I wanted to get a vote in just in case.

#2433

@SVS

You left the very bottom of my suspect list when you started talking about players other than me. Your points on LC rang true. Your points about me didn't, at least not until the last day phase or so.

I'm not saying there's no OMGUS aspect to my suspicion of you but that's not the primary reason for it or me backing off.

When you're talking 90% about me and I not only know your conclusion to be false but also disagree with your methods, you look 90% bad and must be lynched. When you are focusing on me 20% and your reasons are explained, only 10-15% of what you say looks bad. This puts you roughly in the middle as one of the x players jockeying for y townie slots.

#2434

@Dizzy

I believe you to be a Reaper.

All your posts with Silver in them are like "I suspect Silver but I suspect Jack more."

You vote Silver here

Spoiler: show

But then try to walk it back until Silver swings, saying you would be willing to switch to me or Nifty.

Spoiler: show

And spend the rest of the day talking about how Silver might be silenced and questioning Nifty.

I do not believe you are a doggie.

#2435

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:@Dizzy

I believe you to be a Reaper.

All your posts with Silver in them are like "I suspect Silver but I suspect Jack more."

You vote Silver here

Spoiler: show
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/postin ... 4&p=357523
But then try to walk it back until Silver swings, saying you would be willing to switch to me or Nifty.

Spoiler: show
Dyslexicon wrote:I'd be willing to lynch any of Silver, Jack or Nifty.

@Nut, What are your thoughts on Nifty?
And spend the rest of the day talking about how Silver might be silenced and questioning Nifty.

I do not believe you are a doggie.

This is in addition to basically saying "What Dom said and also what SVS said" without being able to rephrase these arguments in her own words and without addressing my critiques of those arguments but rather continuing to vote me.

Reads like "I'd think harder about this but they I'd have to move my vote."/hiding behind other players. Dom and SVS had their own arguments. Silver and Dizzy did not.

#2436

sprityo wrote:Alright I'm hoping to see some activity today, we've got 8 hours left in the day and I'm still pumped

Negative.

Poll runs till Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:16 pm
You may select 1 option

You humans and your urgency.

Go participate in your senseless rituals, like searching outdoors for the vessels of zygotes you discolored the night prior.

#2437

Epignosis wrote:
sprityo wrote:Alright I'm hoping to see some activity today, we've got 8 hours left in the day and I'm still pumped
Negative.

Poll runs till Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:16 pm
You may select 1 option
You humans and your urgency.

Go participate in your senseless rituals, like searching outdoors for the vessels of zygotes you discolored the night prior.

Oh right the extension

Go away you cranky old drone, we'll lynch you once we run out of sensible options

#2438

Where is INH, where is the Marmot?

Surely they have some sorta opinion or words to say?

#2439

Meh. Thank you for at least answering part of my inquiries, Jack. I believed Silver to be scum pretty much the whole game. Honestly hoped he'd be vig killed. Nifty is scum, so my vote there would've been good.

I'm town. I'm sure Nifty and Nut er scum together. Nobody listens to me. Fred us silenced. People are being willfully blind, but with as much non town as town I should not be surprised. Not sure why Raven and SVS are voting me. Reapers should take out Nifty or Nut if they want to have a chance.

#2440

A little bit of a half hearted good luck to town. Watch the silence unfold^^

#2441

Care to claim, Dizzy?

#2442

Wait loooool. I might have a verifiable claim. Checking with his modness.

#2443

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Care to claim, Dizzy?

In which case: YES.

#2444

Lol and?

Also, assume Nut/Nifty did get that question earlier (I don't remember the details but I remembered reading your post like "asked and answered").

Would you still be certain they are bad together? If so, why?

#2445

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Lol and?

Also, assume Nut/Nifty did get that question earlier (I don't remember the details but I remembered reading your post like "asked and answered").

Would you still be certain they are bad together? If so, why?

Get what question earlier? Did Nifty say who he targeted this last night?

#2446

Nah, can't confirm my role. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Which makes sense. I could if I got a new shot though. The irony.

#2447

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Lol and?

Also, assume Nut/Nifty did get that question earlier (I don't remember the details but I remembered reading your post like "asked and answered").

Would you still be certain they are bad together? If so, why?

The questions are not answered. Nowhere does Nifty explain why he targeted Nut specifically. In fact the little he talked about her earlier was him NOT trusting her and her being on "everybody's scum list". Nowhere has he said who he now has targeted, as he does have more shots he should've targeted someone else. I picked up on the link between Nifty/Nut before this even happened. And I hinted to Nifty that if he was town he should target me cause I have a x-shot role (as do many roles to be fair). All Nifty has done is become LESS active after being "pretty much confirmed" and refusing to answer my questions because I've been inactive. The link between gfish and Nifty were strong. It's actually blantantly obvious imo. This game is not breakable, if you follow Nifty and Nut's claim to the grave you're going to lose no matter what side you're on.

#2448

Well the simple solution is if one of them dies the other is more than likely scum right?

#2449

Aaaaand we're back. Sorta.

#2450

Okay. Clearly the poll expired, but the outage was long enough that I am extending the day one more time. The new deadline will be set when I can fix the poll. Here is how the poll stands at the time I make this change:

CaptainNifty - 1 vote
Dyslexicon - 5 votes
Fredwood - 1 vote
Jackofhearts2005 - 1 vote

These votes no longer count. As was stated at the start of this day phase, they are now phantom votes. The only votes that count for this day phase will be those that come AFTER THIS POST. If you want to keep your previous vote, simply place it again.

NOTE: while the update is being sorted, you'll see that names are no longer attached to votes in the poll. Because of this, it is no longer permissible in this game to merely vote in the poll -- you MUST also vote in a post within this game thread. Your vote MUST be made in a way which is easily visible to the hosts, or you risk your vote being overlooked. Please use this format: CAPS LOCK VOTE PLAYER NAME. For example:

VOTE JAGGEDJIMMYJAY

Votes will be counted in the thread and the poll will be UNOFFICIAL.