Blue Velvet Mafia {THE END}

[Sloonei]

How do you feel about nutella, Quin? The mafia player, not the hazelnut spread.

[Quin]

I subbed in after sprityo was killed, and Dizzy wasn't inactive on Day 1. So explain why these set of night kills makes me look bad, Sloonei.

Have you not stated elsewhere that you're having trouble getting caught up in this game?

No. I just stated that I wasn't going to play catch-up.

Which suggests some degree of blindness to events in the thread, no?

Yes, but unless all of my teammates are as misinformed as I am, that won't affect the night kill choices. If I'm bad and all my teammates are misinformed, then I'm going to figure out what's going on, aren't I?

[Quin]

I subbed in after sprityo was killed, and Dizzy wasn't inactive on Day 1. So explain why these set of night kills makes me look bad, Sloonei.

Have you not stated elsewhere that you're having trouble getting caught up in this game?

No. I just stated that I wasn't going to play catch-up.

Which suggests some degree of blindness to events in the thread, no?

Yes, but unless all of my teammates are as misinformed as I am, that won't affect the night kill choices. If I'm bad and all my teammates are misinformed, then I'm going to figure out what's going on, aren't I?

[Quin]

Quin, talk about this succession of posts:

llama did not vote for alignment reveals.

I figured I'd take a look at llamas posts to see what's going on there. I don't really see anything that leads me to read him any way or another. I do notice that he mentioned making a deal, and I don't know what's up with that.

I don't reject the idea that a distracted llama might kill a heavily suspected person, but with 6 votes on him already, I'm not inclined to vote there. My other top of mind options are Epignosis or LC.

Reiterating that llama chose to vote for double voting or something over alignment reveals last night. I remember a baddie doing something along these lines happening in The Office, and I didn't pursue it then. So yeah, gut scum read for that.

A gripe I have with Long Con is that he's been vocalising his suspicion of Epi since Day 1, but it was only on Day 3 that he started to discuss it with people who were not Epi. On top of that, he only did that when Sloonei cued him to do so. I don't get the impression he really believes in his case.

First you take note of an odd Llama moment. Then you drop it a few days later, do a quick ISO of llama and come up with nothing conclusive and denounce the wagon that's starting to form against him, but an hour later you're suddenly on that wagon for the initial oddity you had observed two days earlier. You think this computes over here?

I don't know where you got the idea that I dropped it. Where did I say that I dropped it? It was a big reason as to why I suspected llama in the first place. Another thing you've got wrong. I thought the existing cases against llama were good. But with 5 people on the wagon before even halfway through the day and more being added onto it, I was hesitant because it seemed like an obvious runaway.

The bolded text is where I got the idea that you dropped your suspicion of llama. Where I come from, "I don't really see anything that leads me to read him any way or another" is not a statement of suspicion. Your post trajectory reads like this: Mildly suspicious of llama -[2 days pass]-> Neutral on llama -> opposed to lynching llama -> quietly return to original suspicion of llama an hour later.

His posts didn't give me any reason to read him one way or another. Does that help you?

A little bit but not enough. You're still opposed to his lynch in those middle two posts, but in favor of it in the two on opposite ends of the chain. If you continued to be suspicious of llama for his vote, then why did you neglect this in your read of llama in those other two posts?

Wary. Not opposed. I'm not going to constantly reiterate my suspicion whenever I mention someone.

[speedchuck]

I'm kinda wondering how far Speedchuck is going to take the "I do what DH Does" schtick.

Try me.

[nutella]

My catch-up took all of about 3 minutes, but when I read my role PM it made it pretty clear that I'm a good guy, thus I too am skeptical of LC not knowing there were civs and others in the game. Barring developments, that is a pretty sizeable Day 1 ping.

I suspect timmer for this post. My role card came in with my character name, a whole load of flavour and then my super definitely town alignment as a side note at the very end. It was not 'pretty clear'. There is room to forgive LC for his LMS thought process.

What made you just pull this out of nowhere? Playing the "convincingly civ description of my role card" card, four game days after timmer's post but fairly soon after I said it's a major reason I trust him?

Quin, talk about this succession of posts:

llama did not vote for alignment reveals.

I figured I'd take a look at llamas posts to see what's going on there. I don't really see anything that leads me to read him any way or another. I do notice that he mentioned making a deal, and I don't know what's up with that.

I don't reject the idea that a distracted llama might kill a heavily suspected person, but with 6 votes on him already, I'm not inclined to vote there. My other top of mind options are Epignosis or LC.

Reiterating that llama chose to vote for double voting or something over alignment reveals last night. I remember a baddie doing something along these lines happening in The Office, and I didn't pursue it then. So yeah, gut scum read for that.

A gripe I have with Long Con is that he's been vocalising his suspicion of Epi since Day 1, but it was only on Day 3 that he started to discuss it with people who were not Epi. On top of that, he only did that when Sloonei cued him to do so. I don't get the impression he really believes in his case.

First you take note of an odd Llama moment. Then you drop it a few days later, do a quick ISO of llama and come up with nothing conclusive and denounce the wagon that's starting to form against him, but an hour later you're suddenly on that wagon for the initial oddity you had observed two days earlier. You think this computes over here?

Wheewww yeah this series of posts by Quin really stinks to high heavens.

I'm interested in Nutella as a player right now. Her Process of Elimination magic has whittled the game down to three possible baddies occupying two available spots. There does not seem to be a whole lot of suspicion around her. If I'm not misreading things, she almost seems like a trusted player to some degree. I've seen her as an excellent townie in past games. If she says she is confident that 2 out of 3 players are scum, and I am one of those three players, then that is something I am going to take interest in. Like I said before, if she is right then I have a 100% chance of voting for scum today by following her.

So what do we think of nutella's thought process? And could you provide more elaboration now, nutella?

I'm trying to let up a bit on the POE and open up to a couple other possibilities of players who could be fooling me, like speedchuck or DH maybe. I could turn my previously rather black-and-white list into a more nuanced rainbow if you like.


BTW, is it just me or has LC completely dropped off the face of the earth? (As has SVS obviously.)

[Sloonei]

I subbed in after sprityo was killed, and Dizzy wasn't inactive on Day 1. So explain why these set of night kills makes me look bad, Sloonei.

Have you not stated elsewhere that you're having trouble getting caught up in this game?

No. I just stated that I wasn't going to play catch-up.

Which suggests some degree of blindness to events in the thread, no?

Yes, but unless all of my teammates are as misinformed as I am, that won't affect the night kill choices. If I'm bad and all my teammates are misinformed, then I'm going to figure out what's going on, aren't I?

I don't know the answer to this question, but it seems a little contrived. I don't know much about what you've done in this game period. I just know that, as a replacement, you're one of the less informed players left, along with myself. This means you would fit into DharmaHelper's criteria for suspicion. Note that it's not my criteria for suspicion. I never said I agree with the assessment, just that it's fair to say that either of us are suspicious if one is using DH's thought process.

[speedchuck]

Rainbow without color:

Nutella
Epignosis
Timmer
LC
DH
Quin
SVS
Sloonei

Is that really all the players? wow.

[Quin]

I subbed in after sprityo was killed, and Dizzy wasn't inactive on Day 1. So explain why these set of night kills makes me look bad, Sloonei.

Have you not stated elsewhere that you're having trouble getting caught up in this game?

No. I just stated that I wasn't going to play catch-up.

Which suggests some degree of blindness to events in the thread, no?

Yes, but unless all of my teammates are as misinformed as I am, that won't affect the night kill choices. If I'm bad and all my teammates are misinformed, then I'm going to figure out what's going on, aren't I?

I don't know the answer to this question, but it seems a little contrived. I don't know much about what you've done in this game period. I just know that, as a replacement, you're one of the less informed players left, along with myself. This means you would fit into DharmaHelper's criteria for suspicion. Note that it's not my criteria for suspicion. I never said I agree with the assessment, just that it's fair to say that either of us are suspicious if one is using DH's thought process.

That's too bad. If you're not bad, it sounds like DH needs a new criteria.

[Quin]

My catch-up took all of about 3 minutes, but when I read my role PM it made it pretty clear that I'm a good guy, thus I too am skeptical of LC not knowing there were civs and others in the game. Barring developments, that is a pretty sizeable Day 1 ping.

I suspect timmer for this post. My role card came in with my character name, a whole load of flavour and then my super definitely town alignment as a side note at the very end. It was not 'pretty clear'. There is room to forgive LC for his LMS thought process.

What made you just pull this out of nowhere? Playing the "convincingly civ description of my role card" card, four game days after timmer's post but fairly soon after I said it's a major reason I trust him?

Quin, talk about this succession of posts:

llama did not vote for alignment reveals.

I figured I'd take a look at llamas posts to see what's going on there. I don't really see anything that leads me to read him any way or another. I do notice that he mentioned making a deal, and I don't know what's up with that.

I don't reject the idea that a distracted llama might kill a heavily suspected person, but with 6 votes on him already, I'm not inclined to vote there. My other top of mind options are Epignosis or LC.

Reiterating that llama chose to vote for double voting or something over alignment reveals last night. I remember a baddie doing something along these lines happening in The Office, and I didn't pursue it then. So yeah, gut scum read for that.

A gripe I have with Long Con is that he's been vocalising his suspicion of Epi since Day 1, but it was only on Day 3 that he started to discuss it with people who were not Epi. On top of that, he only did that when Sloonei cued him to do so. I don't get the impression he really believes in his case.

First you take note of an odd Llama moment. Then you drop it a few days later, do a quick ISO of llama and come up with nothing conclusive and denounce the wagon that's starting to form against him, but an hour later you're suddenly on that wagon for the initial oddity you had observed two days earlier. You think this computes over here?

Wheewww yeah this series of posts by Quin really stinks to high heavens.

I'm interested in Nutella as a player right now. Her Process of Elimination magic has whittled the game down to three possible baddies occupying two available spots. There does not seem to be a whole lot of suspicion around her. If I'm not misreading things, she almost seems like a trusted player to some degree. I've seen her as an excellent townie in past games. If she says she is confident that 2 out of 3 players are scum, and I am one of those three players, then that is something I am going to take interest in. Like I said before, if she is right then I have a 100% chance of voting for scum today by following her.

So what do we think of nutella's thought process? And could you provide more elaboration now, nutella?

I'm trying to let up a bit on the POE and open up to a couple other possibilities of players who could be fooling me, like speedchuck or DH maybe. I could turn my previously rather black-and-white list into a more nuanced rainbow if you like.


BTW, is it just me or has LC completely dropped off the face of the earth? (As has SVS obviously.)

Okay, ice cream sandwich.

[nutella]

Timmer
Long Con
Epignosis
DharmaHelper
Speedchuck
Sloonei
S~V~S
Quin

[Sloonei]

Wary. Not opposed. I'm not going to constantly reiterate my suspicion whenever I mention someone.

Snipped.
This still does not address the essence of my point, which is that you seemed to totally ignore your supposed suspicion of llama when composing those middle two posts. If you had a substantial reason to vote for llama, why make two posts in which you directly oppose the lynch? By "oppose" I mean you took a stance which was contrary to the act of voting for him. You can say that you were wary of the bandwagon and this is true. But this does not change the observable fact that you have two posts which are opposed to the idea of lynching llama, sandwiched between two posts in which you support his lynch.

[Sloonei]

Rainbow without color:

Nutella
Epignosis
Timmer
LC
DH
Quin
SVS
Sloonei

Is that really all the players? wow.

When I asked you why I was your top suspect (or at least the recipient of your vote) earlier, you said it was because you were following DH (who is currently plopped right in the middle of this list). Is that still the case, or do you have a substantial reason to choose me over Quin and SVS?

[Sloonei]

Timmer
Long Con
Epignosis
DharmaHelper
Speedchuck
Sloonei
S~V~S
Quin

I'm interested in Speedchuck and DH here.

[Quin]

Wary. Not opposed. I'm not going to constantly reiterate my suspicion whenever I mention someone.

Snipped.
This still does not address the essence of my point, which is that you seemed to totally ignore your supposed suspicion of llama when composing those middle two posts. If you had a substantial reason to vote for llama, why make two posts in which you directly oppose the lynch? By "oppose" I mean you took a stance which was contrary to the act of voting for him. You can say that you were wary of the bandwagon and this is true. But this does not change the observable fact that you have two posts which are opposed to the idea of lynching llama, sandwiched between two posts in which you support his lynch.

Post 1 - The llama case was only just being formed. I figured it was noteworthy, for the reason I explained in Post 4, so I mentioned it.
Post 2 - Not an opposition. Not a support. I read his posts, and there was fluff.
Post 3 - I can support the llama case, but it's a runaway, so I'm wary.
Post 4 - I elaborate on Post 1. I'm cool with it.

I do not know how best to explain this further.

[Quin]

Rainbow without color:

Nutella
Epignosis
Timmer
LC
DH
Quin
SVS
Sloonei

Is that really all the players? wow.

When I asked you why I was your top suspect (or at least the recipient of your vote) earlier, you said it was because you were following DH (who is currently plopped right in the middle of this list). Is that still the case, or do you have a substantial reason to choose me over Quin and SVS?

a thing i am currently interested in.

[Sloonei]

How do you feel about nutella, Quin? The mafia player, not the hazelnut spread.

[Quin]

How do you feel about nutella, Quin? The mafia player, not the hazelnut spread.

I am unimpressed by the context in which she first voted for me. For reference, it was that 'look me in the eyes' thing. I agree with Epi's thoughts that she's less likely to be bad since she called Epi out on his lie rather than keeping it to her team, though.

[Epignosis]

How do you know what Wilgy was or was not thinking? There was nothing in the PM he sent me which contradicts any of this. Also, it's not even Wilgy's thoughts that matter here. It's SVS's. I think she would have reacted that way as scum or as town.

Look, I'm not voting S~V~S based on what Wilgy told you privately days ago. You could have said something to incriminate S~V~S then if you wanted to, but you didn't. You've posted every Day as far as I can see, and Wilgy was lynched ages ago. You could have said something. Now it just looks like you're trying to jumble together a case based on a PM a dead man sent you that nobody else can know if he sent or not. It's all very wild and full of hearsay. No thank you.

huh? No. I'm hardly using that PM to justify my vote. Pay more attention to the post I made highlighting SVS and llama's interactions. That's what I'm actually basing my vote on. I brought the Wilgy PM up now because, like you said, we're getting toward the end of the game. I didn't want to bring it up earlier when I wasn't fully involved in the game because I wouldn't have been able to follow up in any way, and I wasn't sure what would have been going on around me at the time. I'd honestly forgotten the contents of the message anyway. I had to check it after I had made my first couple posts about SVS. At that point I took an additional look at her posts to see what I could find that was relevant to what Wilgy had said to me on Day 1. That is all. It's not a crucial point and I never intended it to be so.

Fine, but I don't care about your S~V~S-llama interactions either. They're all circumstantial. There is no substance to them. If I need to go through breaking them down, I will, but I would rather not.

I would like to hear any thoughts you have on SVS. You don't have to acknowledge any of the things I've said about her, I just want your own independent thoughts on her.

Civilian. I already said why. Go read.

[DharmaHelper]

Timmer
Long Con
Epignosis
DharmaHelper
Speedchuck
Sloonei
S~V~S
Quin

Oh, word?

[Sloonei]

I don't immediately see a tool to colorize fonts, so here's a "Most to Least Town" list based solely on what I've observed today:

Epignosis
nutell
DharmaHelper
Long Con
timmer
Speedchuck
Quin
SVS

These reads are based on whole minutes of observation.

[Sloonei]

How do you know what Wilgy was or was not thinking? There was nothing in the PM he sent me which contradicts any of this. Also, it's not even Wilgy's thoughts that matter here. It's SVS's. I think she would have reacted that way as scum or as town.

Look, I'm not voting S~V~S based on what Wilgy told you privately days ago. You could have said something to incriminate S~V~S then if you wanted to, but you didn't. You've posted every Day as far as I can see, and Wilgy was lynched ages ago. You could have said something. Now it just looks like you're trying to jumble together a case based on a PM a dead man sent you that nobody else can know if he sent or not. It's all very wild and full of hearsay. No thank you.

huh? No. I'm hardly using that PM to justify my vote. Pay more attention to the post I made highlighting SVS and llama's interactions. That's what I'm actually basing my vote on. I brought the Wilgy PM up now because, like you said, we're getting toward the end of the game. I didn't want to bring it up earlier when I wasn't fully involved in the game because I wouldn't have been able to follow up in any way, and I wasn't sure what would have been going on around me at the time. I'd honestly forgotten the contents of the message anyway. I had to check it after I had made my first couple posts about SVS. At that point I took an additional look at her posts to see what I could find that was relevant to what Wilgy had said to me on Day 1. That is all. It's not a crucial point and I never intended it to be so.

Fine, but I don't care about your S~V~S-llama interactions either. They're all circumstantial. There is no substance to them. If I need to go through breaking them down, I will, but I would rather not.

I would like to hear any thoughts you have on SVS. You don't have to acknowledge any of the things I've said about her, I just want your own independent thoughts on her.

Civilian. I already said why. Go read.

Where should I be reading for this why?

[DharmaHelper]

I suppose I'll put my vote on SVS for now.

[DharmaHelper]

I suppose I'll put my vote on Speedchuck for now.

[Sloonei]

How do you feel about nutella, Quin? The mafia player, not the hazelnut spread.

I am unimpressed by the context in which she first voted for me. For reference, it was that 'look me in the eyes' thing. I agree with Epi's thoughts that she's less likely to be bad since she called Epi out on his lie rather than keeping it to her team, though.

She'd also just named as one of her final 3 candidates for lynching (at the time). I think that's a good enough basis for an early-phase vote.

[Sloonei]

Does anyone have a cliffnotes list of reasons to suspect speedchuck? I ask this more for the sake of discussion than my own attempts to catch up.

[Quin]

How do you feel about nutella, Quin? The mafia player, not the hazelnut spread.

I am unimpressed by the context in which she first voted for me. For reference, it was that 'look me in the eyes' thing. I agree with Epi's thoughts that she's less likely to be bad since she called Epi out on his lie rather than keeping it to her team, though.

She'd also just named as one of her final 3 candidates for lynching (at the time). I think that's a good enough basis for an early-phase vote.

That skipped my mind. I just remembered me talking to you and her jumping in with a vote.

[Sloonei]

How do you feel about nutella, Quin? The mafia player, not the hazelnut spread.

I am unimpressed by the context in which she first voted for me. For reference, it was that 'look me in the eyes' thing. I agree with Epi's thoughts that she's less likely to be bad since she called Epi out on his lie rather than keeping it to her team, though.

She'd also just named as one of her final 3 candidates for lynching (at the time). I think that's a good enough basis for an early-phase vote.

That skipped my mind. I just remembered me talking to you and her jumping in with a vote.

Did you have any thoughts on her prior to this vote?

[nutella]

Timmer
Long Con
Epignosis
DharmaHelper
Speedchuck
Sloonei
S~V~S
Quin

I'm interested in Speedchuck and DH here.

They're in the middle because I have had reason to think they are civ but it's possible they are fooling me, and I don't want to entirely discount that possibility. And I'm a bit more wary/think the possibility is a little bit higher of speedchuck.

[Quin]

How do you feel about nutella, Quin? The mafia player, not the hazelnut spread.

I am unimpressed by the context in which she first voted for me. For reference, it was that 'look me in the eyes' thing. I agree with Epi's thoughts that she's less likely to be bad since she called Epi out on his lie rather than keeping it to her team, though.

She'd also just named as one of her final 3 candidates for lynching (at the time). I think that's a good enough basis for an early-phase vote.

That skipped my mind. I just remembered me talking to you and her jumping in with a vote.

Did you have any thoughts on her prior to this vote?

No.

[DharmaHelper]

When, during my long mafia career, have I ever fooled anyone?

[nutella]

Btw the font color is the droplet-shaped symbol, right next to the font size menu.

[Quin]

When, during my long mafia career, have I ever fooled anyone?

you ain't ever fooled me that's for sure

[nutella]

How do you feel about nutella, Quin? The mafia player, not the hazelnut spread.

I am unimpressed by the context in which she first voted for me. For reference, it was that 'look me in the eyes' thing. I agree with Epi's thoughts that she's less likely to be bad since she called Epi out on his lie rather than keeping it to her team, though.

She'd also just named as one of her final 3 candidates for lynching (at the time). I think that's a good enough basis for an early-phase vote.

The main reason I chose to go with Quin in that moment was the recently mentioned catch that llama had voted to protect him(Dys).

[Sloonei]

Timmer
Long Con
Epignosis
DharmaHelper
Speedchuck
Sloonei
S~V~S
Quin

I'm interested in Speedchuck and DH here.

They're in the middle because I have had reason to think they are civ but it's possible they are fooling me, and I don't want to entirely discount that possibility. And I'm a bit more wary/think the possibility is a little bit higher of speedchuck.

What has speedchuck done that might be scummy?

[Sloonei]

Btw the font color is the droplet-shaped symbol, right next to the font size menu.

Oh! thank you

[speedchuck]

Does anyone have a cliffnotes list of reasons to suspect speedchuck? I ask this more for the sake of discussion than my own attempts to catch up.

Laziness.
Buddying.
Not voting for Llama even when DH did.

DH is about halfway down my list because all he's done to make himself look town is go after Llama. Bussing is pretty common where I come from. The mafia kills in this game have been quality-of-life kills. Kills that make the game more talkative, better. DH is having fun, I might could see him doing this (until phase 2 starts). It doesn't seem like anyone has genuinely put up any investigating toward DH.

Still, the llama push is pretty convincing. Good push I guess. Of course, Llama didn't die when lynched...

Anyway, there's that. And good job keeping me from following you, DH. I'm lazy and in fun mode, but not to the point of self-voting.

As for you, sloonei, I thought epic made some decent points, but I'm still not putting you much lower than SVS or Quin. The bottom three on my list are about even, and are very lazily non-controversial. I like things that way.

And you guy have an auto-rainbow tool? That's fantastic!

[DharmaHelper]

Does anyone have a cliffnotes list of reasons to suspect speedchuck? I ask this more for the sake of discussion than my own attempts to catch up.

Laziness.
Buddying.
Not voting for Llama even when DH did.

DH is about halfway down my list because all he's done to make himself look town is go after Llama. Bussing is pretty common where I come from. The mafia kills in this game have been quality-of-life kills. Kills that make the game more talkative, better. DH is having fun, I might could see him doing this (until phase 2 starts). It doesn't seem like anyone has genuinely put up any investigating toward DH.

Still, the llama push is pretty convincing. Good push I guess. Of course, Llama didn't die when lynched...

Anyway, there's that. And good job keeping me from following you, DH. I'm lazy and in fun mode, but not to the point of self-voting.

As for you, sloonei, I thought epic made some decent points, but I'm still not putting you much lower than SVS or Quin. The bottom three on my list are about even, and are very lazily non-controversial. I like things that way.

And you guy have an auto-rainbow tool? That's fantastic!

Cool.

[Sloonei]

Does anyone have a cliffnotes list of reasons to suspect speedchuck? I ask this more for the sake of discussion than my own attempts to catch up.

Laziness.
Buddying.
Not voting for Llama even when DH did.

DH is about halfway down my list because all he's done to make himself look town is go after Llama. Bussing is pretty common where I come from. The mafia kills in this game have been quality-of-life kills. Kills that make the game more talkative, better. DH is having fun, I might could see him doing this (until phase 2 starts). It doesn't seem like anyone has genuinely put up any investigating toward DH.

Still, the llama push is pretty convincing. Good push I guess. Of course, Llama didn't die when lynched...

Anyway, there's that. And good job keeping me from following you, DH. I'm lazy and in fun mode, but not to the point of self-voting.

As for you, sloonei, I thought epic made some decent points, but I'm still not putting you much lower than SVS or Quin. The bottom three on my list are about even, and are very lazily non-controversial. I like things that way.

And you guy have an auto-rainbow tool? That's fantastic!

Cool.

There does seem to be a part of you that is coasting off the goodwill you built up from lynching llama. You don't seem to have a confident read on who his teammates might be though. Does this worry you at all?

[DharmaHelper]

Does anyone have a cliffnotes list of reasons to suspect speedchuck? I ask this more for the sake of discussion than my own attempts to catch up.

Laziness.
Buddying.
Not voting for Llama even when DH did.

DH is about halfway down my list because all he's done to make himself look town is go after Llama. Bussing is pretty common where I come from. The mafia kills in this game have been quality-of-life kills. Kills that make the game more talkative, better. DH is having fun, I might could see him doing this (until phase 2 starts). It doesn't seem like anyone has genuinely put up any investigating toward DH.

Still, the llama push is pretty convincing. Good push I guess. Of course, Llama didn't die when lynched...

Anyway, there's that. And good job keeping me from following you, DH. I'm lazy and in fun mode, but not to the point of self-voting.

As for you, sloonei, I thought epic made some decent points, but I'm still not putting you much lower than SVS or Quin. The bottom three on my list are about even, and are very lazily non-controversial. I like things that way.

And you guy have an auto-rainbow tool? That's fantastic!

Cool.

There does seem to be a part of you that is coasting off the goodwill you built up from lynching llama. You don't seem to have a confident read on who his teammates might be though. Does this worry you at all?

Coasting? I mentioned it once.

[Sloonei]

Does anyone have a cliffnotes list of reasons to suspect speedchuck? I ask this more for the sake of discussion than my own attempts to catch up.

Laziness.
Buddying.
Not voting for Llama even when DH did.

DH is about halfway down my list because all he's done to make himself look town is go after Llama. Bussing is pretty common where I come from. The mafia kills in this game have been quality-of-life kills. Kills that make the game more talkative, better. DH is having fun, I might could see him doing this (until phase 2 starts). It doesn't seem like anyone has genuinely put up any investigating toward DH.

Still, the llama push is pretty convincing. Good push I guess. Of course, Llama didn't die when lynched...

Anyway, there's that. And good job keeping me from following you, DH. I'm lazy and in fun mode, but not to the point of self-voting.

As for you, sloonei, I thought epic made some decent points, but I'm still not putting you much lower than SVS or Quin. The bottom three on my list are about even, and are very lazily non-controversial. I like things that way.

And you guy have an auto-rainbow tool? That's fantastic!

Cool.

There does seem to be a part of you that is coasting off the goodwill you built up from lynching llama. You don't seem to have a confident read on who his teammates might be though. Does this worry you at all?

Coasting? I mentioned it once.

While sitting back, not getting your hands dirty. Look at me, criticizing active players after i did shit for an entire week

[DharmaHelper]

I could defend myself but instead I'll point out the one flaw in anyone ever accusing me of being mafia this game:

Had I a kill to use, Quin and sVS would not be alive.

[DharmaHelper]

[Quin]

[Long Con]

Whoa... is this a bad time?

[Long Con]

BTW, is it just me or has LC completely dropped off the face of the earth? (As has SVS obviously.)

Sorry about that. Today was the Stouffville Food Truck Frenzy, and we were in it with our food truck, The Sandwich Shack. So, I was there for about eight hours starting mid-afternoon today, and before that, I worked several hours at my regular job. I think that a lot of good analysis has taken place today. I just read through and got caught up so I could post. I have a couple of posts I'd like to respond to, and a couple of suspects, but I'm exhausted and I'm going to bed.

One thing I plan to do is speak about the Wilgy pre-death PM, who got it, and some stuff. I'm saying this to remind myself tomorrow as much as anything. Nite nite!

[Sloonei]

Another note about the PM wilgy sent me: he said he'd also shared things with DH and Speedchuck. He said if Speedchuck went after SVS (in the aftermath lf Day 1), then he is bad. He noted that he was wary of DH for doing nothing with whatever information wilgy shared with him.

[DharmaHelper]

Another note about the PM wilgy sent me: he said he'd also shared things with DH and Speedchuck. He said if Speedchuck went after SVS (in the aftermath lf Day 1), then he is bad. He noted that he was wary of DH for doing nothing with whatever information wilgy shared with him.

Wilgy's PM was sent out to multiple people, and he changed the name(s) depending on who he sent it to.

It was a misdirection.

[nutella]

Yeah I also got the "if speedchuck goes after SVS he's bad" thing, followed by Wilgy's last words pm which I believe LC is referring to.

[Sloonei]

Another note about the PM wilgy sent me: he said he'd also shared things with DH and Speedchuck. He said if Speedchuck went after SVS (in the aftermath lf Day 1), then he is bad. He noted that he was wary of DH for doing nothing with whatever information wilgy shared with him.

Wilgy's PM was sent out to multiple people, and he changed the name(s) depending on who he sent it to.

It was a misdirection.

This is fun. I assumed he had sent similar messages to other people, but I also trusted that there was at least some truth in it somewhere. Should I assume everyone has already talked about these things?