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#501

Hey, Wilgy.

THATS what me trying to supatown looks like.

Now, I'll go back to my regularly scheduled programming.

#502

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:21 pm Who was it that said, "please don't vote jack" out of nowhere yesterday at end of day 1? I wanted to inquire about that.

Me, that was me. I did that.

#503

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:28 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:21 pm Who was it that said, "please don't vote jack" out of nowhere yesterday at end of day 1? I wanted to inquire about that.
Me, that was me. I did that.

I don't think you're on a team with Jack. Why did you do that?

#504

Hey speed... do I still sort of align with your reads after that little outburst?

#505

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:11 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:08 pm well according to golden, golden's acting exactly how he does when he's a civilian, so I don't see any way anyone else can contradict him on that

also, if golden is highly aware of how he is when he's a civilian to "people who know him," wouldn't he try and, I dunno, act exactly that way when he's bad?

just some brain food
Yeah. He has fooled me before. I forget which game, but it was whenever he was bad recently and did a good job of looking like his civ self.

/

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:20 pm Because he's on her baddie team.

Screw it, night or not. 95% sure nutella is bad, enough that I intended to place my vote immediately upon day starting. About 80% that Dom is on a team with her.

Nutella's iso is noncommittal. People should have a look. I don't buy that she couldn't make up her mind on the vote and was too late... I think she has a vote manipulation role and didn't want to risk creating information through her vote in such a tight vote. She's tiptoeing around things, especially her read of me.

#506

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:58 pm Call me crazy, but I think I want to vote for Jack.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:58 pm linki: hahaha don't vote Jack pls

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:16 am I usually read Jack as scum (in the what, 1 or 2 games we've played). It isn't happening this game. I have no reason to believe Jack is scum, no pings or anything. If Jack is town, which I believe to be the case, he'll be an experienced asset.

If you come up with some actual reasons to lynch him we can look into that on D2 or 3.

For your convenience.

linki: I've not been keen on nutella, obviously, so I can agree with you there. Dom I could go either way on, don't know him well enough to read. Now that he's shown up, I'm more inclined to lynch him. Just hate lynching no-shows.
Can you show me where Jack is co-aligned with these reads? Because I don't see the Jack read... As you can see above, though, I can't read Jack.
Didn't want him dead d1 tho so

So yeah, your reads sort-of align with mine, but not quite as well.

linki#2: gonna have to be more clear than that, rico.

#507

#508

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:40 pm

#509

Oh, that's a wolf? I thought it was a cat.

I have never understood why people think I'm liable to just start bussing someone out of the blue.

#510

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:28 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:21 pm Who was it that said, "please don't vote jack" out of nowhere yesterday at end of day 1? I wanted to inquire about that.
Me, that was me. I did that.

Why did you say it?

#511

PEOPLE RICOCHET HAS GIVEN THE WOLF EMOJI TO:

Sprityo
INH
Golden
Nutella

So, that's where his head's at. I'll keep updating this as the game progresses.

#512

Jack is an independent read. Could be aligned with a nutella team or the other team, but I see him as compatible with nutella/dom at this point.

#513

@inh - I think you are good this game, and also I know your brain works very differently from mine, so I'm interested in your take on nutella.

#514

Oh. Rico, are you saying that INH and Nutella are w/w, and that Golden is opposite team wolf?

Because that's honestly what I got from that, and it's pretty disappointing

linkis oh god:
@golden Cool. Hard for me to evaluate a metaread, but I don't see Jack as being strongly tied to anyone.
@Eloh because I didn't want someone to vote Jack for crazy non-stated reasons on d1

#515

I took that rico is advocating an inh/nutella/golden team in which there is a truckload of bussing going on.

#516

EBWOP

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:46 pm Oh. Rico, are you saying that INH and Nutella are w/w, and that Golden is opposite team wolf?

Because that's honestly what I got from that, and it's pretty disappointing

linkis oh god:
@golden Cool. Hard for me to evaluate a metaread, but I don't see Jack as being strongly tied to anyone.
@Eloh because I didn't want someone to vote Jack for crazy non-stated reasons on d1

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:19 am Golden
nutella
sprityo

#517

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:49 pm
Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:19 am Golden
nutella
sprityo

Nah.

#518

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:50 pm
Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:49 pm
Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:19 am Golden
nutella
sprityo

Nah.

#519

I can kind of see why rico might link nutella and me. Nutella has been treading very carefully around me all game. He's seeing the same stuff that has me thinking nutella is bad.

#520

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:52 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:50 pm
Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:49 pm
Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:19 am Golden
nutella
sprityo

Nah.

It's okay. I still think you're town.

#521

My current "town core" as I see it

Me
speechuck (heh, that was an accident, but I ain't fixing it)
Wilgy
Rico
Epi
LoRab
Maybe inh and eloh as well, but I find them harder to be sure of
I'd like to throw Tony in but I don't know him well enough

#522

@dom It apparently was more Golden talking than I thought, I might move you up a slot. Epi had voted for you, and Jack said you would look good if you weren't Dom. Speedchuck was defending you but put you at Orange in the rainbow, so I figured there was more.

Epi did something like that too.

#523

Okay. I'm seeing a team of three of Golden, Nutella, JOH, sprityo, and Epi and a team of three of DFaraday, INH, Speed, Dom, and INH.

#524

@Dom

I suspected you for not doing all the things you are now doing.

Lolololol....lolololol

Linki: Hilarious, TSP

#525

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:06 pm Okay. I'm seeing a team of three of Golden, Nutella, JOH, sprityo, and Epi and a team of three of DFaraday, INH, Speed, Dom, and INH.

#526

INH w/w INH calling it

#527

inh being his own teammate would be kind of epic.

#528

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:17 pm inh being his own teammate would be kind of epic.

we need to save these self-teammate shenanigans for Chicka Chicka, where's it's not only possible but highly likely.

#529

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:46 pm Oh. Rico, are you saying that INH and Nutella are w/w, and that Golden is opposite team wolf?

Because that's honestly what I got from that, and it's pretty disappointing

linkis oh god:
@golden Cool. Hard for me to evaluate a metaread, but I don't see Jack as being strongly tied to anyone.
@Eloh because I didn't want someone to vote Jack for crazy non-stated reasons on d1

But why not? What is so special about jack? No offense, jack.

#530

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:20 pm Because he's on her baddie team.

Screw it, night or not. 95% sure nutella is bad, enough that I intended to place my vote immediately upon day starting. About 80% that Dom is on a team with her.

Nutella's iso is noncommittal. People should have a look. I don't buy that she couldn't make up her mind on the vote and was too late... I think she has a vote manipulation role and didn't want to risk creating information through her vote in such a tight vote. She's tiptoeing around things, especially her read of me.

I'm certainly willing to follow you on Nutella. I don't see town Nutella yet like I saw in Phenon and Pokémon.

I think Dom is good ATM.

Why do you think Dom and Nutella are scumbros?

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:21 pm If I had to bet on their third man, it's Jack. He's reminded me of Mass Effect Jack all game long.

Were you even in that game? Tell me about ME Jack and how I'm similar in these games.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:44 pm Jack is an independent read. Could be aligned with a nutella team or the other team, but I see him as compatible with nutella/dom at this point.

Guess I'm known to bus early.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:50 pm
Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:49 pm
Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:19 am Golden
nutella
sprityo

Nah.

Actually, I'm inclined to agree with all of that.

I think Rico's post restriction is 100% by choice but I don't find that alignment indicative. I like his reads and I don't see all those baddies as being on the same team, which points to town.

#531

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:31 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:46 pm Oh. Rico, are you saying that INH and Nutella are w/w, and that Golden is opposite team wolf?

Because that's honestly what I got from that, and it's pretty disappointing

linkis oh god:
@golden Cool. Hard for me to evaluate a metaread, but I don't see Jack as being strongly tied to anyone.
@Eloh because I didn't want someone to vote Jack for crazy non-stated reasons on d1
But why not? What is so special about jack? No offense, jack.

I'm really good at this game.

You see my Pokémon score?

#532

Tony looking badder.

Sprityo looking gooder. Dom looking gooder.

#533

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:38 pmWere you even in that game? Tell me about ME Jack and how I'm similar in these games.

It's just the vibe.

I wasn't playing. I was in spectator chat saying 'why do they keep not lynching Jack'. I basically spent the whole game waiting for you to get lynched.

I don't think you are particularly bussy, and actually I'd go so far as to say your recent posts are indicative that you aren't nutella-aligned.

#534

Why do you think Dom is good? I think Dom is bad because look at his big post when he came back and specifically what he said about nutella.

#535

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:45 pm Why do you think Dom is good? I think Dom is bad because look at his big post when he came back and specifically what he said about nutella.

Tone.

Compare ASOUE and ME Dom.

I've never seen bad Dom, though. I may be putting too much emphasis on my ability to read him.

#536

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:44 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:38 pmWere you even in that game? Tell me about ME Jack and how I'm similar in these games.
It's just the vibe.

I wasn't playing. I was in spectator chat saying 'why do they keep not lynching Jack'. I basically spent the whole game waiting for you to get lynched.

I don't think you are particularly bussy, and actually I'd go so far as to say your recent posts are indicative that you aren't nutella-aligned.

That was mostly Quin, who always thinks I'm bad.

/blatant lie

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #537

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:20 pm Because he's on her baddie team.

Screw it, night or not. 95% sure nutella is bad, enough that I intended to place my vote immediately upon day starting. About 80% that Dom is on a team with her.

Nutella's iso is noncommittal. People should have a look. I don't buy that she couldn't make up her mind on the vote and was too late... I think she has a vote manipulation role and didn't want to risk creating information through her vote in such a tight vote. She's tiptoeing around things, especially her read of me.

Nah.

Not really sure where you're getting this but you're wrong. I'm a civ and I intend to be as influential with my role as I can. I'm always noncommittal on day 1. I feel bad for missing the vote but I probably would not have made a difference in the result. I'm not "tiptoeing around things," I'm uncertain and waffly as I tend to be.

#538

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:48 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:45 pm Why do you think Dom is good? I think Dom is bad because look at his big post when he came back and specifically what he said about nutella.
Tone.

Compare ASOUE and ME Dom.

I've never seen bad Dom, though. I may be putting too much emphasis on my ability to read him.

Yeah, I don't think tone is a great indicator on Dom. I think content is. Dom angle shoots.

#539

Dom could be good... I'm not convinced he is bad. But I do think he is very nutella compatible.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #540

I'm wary of Dom. His last few posts haven't quite hit the mark for what I expect from his civ style -- he's usually a lot more pushy/nitpicky/pseudo-accusative toward a lot of little things, and he seems nonchalant here. Plus he states a strong civ read on me, which doesn't have much of a history of happening right out of the gate. I think he's bad.

Golden could you explain why you think I'm on a team with him? Is it just because he said he trusts me?

#541

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:01 pmGolden could you explain why you think I'm on a team with him? Is it just because he said he trusts me?

He's using his suspicion of me to clear you, it feels like.

I'm actually glad I threw my stuff out there. This game suddenly feels like its on.

#542

Nutella, I could be convinced to vote for Dom ahead of voting for you. I do think that you are the kind of player who, if you're town, you will prove it within a few days. It's why I'm also less inclined to lynch LC early. I'm all too familiar with being the person lynched early when if peeps were just a little patient...

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #543

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:03 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:01 pmGolden could you explain why you think I'm on a team with him? Is it just because he said he trusts me?
He's using his suspicion of me to clear you, it feels like.

I'm actually glad I threw my stuff out there. This game suddenly feels like its on.

I don't understand what you mean by that. Using his suspicion of you to clear me? Clear me from what? I hadn't even been brought up as a suspect when he announced his suspicion of you, I don't think.

#544

He's saying that if I'm bad you're town, kinda. Have a look at his post and see if you get my drift. It was his post that led me to throw my suspicion of you out there, because Dom expressly felt like he was trying to create a nonchalant nutella town read.

#545

But, you could just be collateral in his no u, it's possible.

#546

LoRab wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:14 pm Host question: Question about the man in the tan jacket. Is his role from before or after the events of the novel?

Pre-novel, technically.

#547

I don't see a strong Dom + Nutella tie, at least from Dom's end. (Nutella' last post is a potential bus but w/e.)

Walk me through it, Golden.

Link:

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:05 pm Nutella, I could be convinced to vote for Dom ahead of voting for you. I do think that you are the kind of player who, if you're town, you will prove it within a few days. It's why I'm also less inclined to lynch LC early. I'm all too familiar with being the person lynched early when if peeps were just a little patient...

So now Dom and Nut could both be bad individually? That's a quick jump from Dom being scum because he's defending Nutella to just Nutella being bad to just Dom being bad.

Golden looking worse. Nut could still be opposing scum, though.

#548

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:15 pmSo now Dom and Nut could both be bad individually? That's a quick jump from Dom being scum because he's defending Nutella to just Nutella being bad to just Dom being bad.

And that's a big jump from me voting for dom BEFORE he defended nutella to trying to imply that I suddenly wouldn't think dom was bad if I didn't think nutella was.

#549

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:21 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:15 pmSo now Dom and Nut could both be bad individually? That's a quick jump from Dom being scum because he's defending Nutella to just Nutella being bad to just Dom being bad.
And that's a big jump from me voting for dom BEFORE he defended nutella to trying to imply that I suddenly wouldn't think dom was bad if I didn't think nutella was.

I asked you why you thought Dom was bad and you said because he defended Nutella.

You gonna walk me through your case or not?

#550

A little less than two hours to send in your PMs.