Age of Empires II

#151

If anyone wants to play again tonight, let me know. I can after 9.

[mention]Epignosis[/mention]
[mention]Sloonei[/mention]
[mention]Quin[/mention]
[mention]Spacedaisy[/mention]

#152

I have the sim from 9-10 tonight so I won't be able to.

#153

Ordinarily this would be an ideal time, but tomorrow is NFL week 1. That's work for me.

#154

I might be up for playing tonight or tomorrow night if any of you all are able. Otherwise we can try for a weekend night again, which I hopefully should be able to actually swing this time.

#155

Tag me later if it happens. I might be able.

#156

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:14 pm I might be up for playing tonight or tomorrow night if any of you all are able. Otherwise we can try for a weekend night again, which I hopefully should be able to actually swing this time.

I can play.

#157

Perhaps after the heist deadline?

#158

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:44 pm Perhaps after the heist deadline?

Sure. I'm around all day.

#159

I'll check with my brother as well. That might just work for me.

#160

If your brother thinks I'm a prick, we can play co-op. I think that's more fun anyway.

#161

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:44 pm If your brother thinks I'm a prick, we can play co-op. I think that's more fun anyway.

Haha, I doubt it, but that's a good thought. Would it be me, you, Quin, and my bro then? Is anyone else interested and around?

#162

still here, still down

#163

cool.

#164

I opened a game room. JaggedJimmyJay's Game.

#165

[mention]DrWilgy[/mention] was saying that he has the game as well. Too bad he's not around rn.

#166

My brother said to give him a few minutes. I'm working on getting a game in sign-ups as well.

I'll be there shortly though.

#167

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:26 pm My brother said to give him a few minutes. I'm working on getting a game in sign-ups as well. I'll be there shortly though.

Is [mention]Spacedaisy[/mention] still at work?

#168

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:29 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:26 pm My brother said to give him a few minutes. I'm working on getting a game in sign-ups as well. I'll be there shortly though.
Is @Spacedaisy still at work?

Nope! I think she's in as well.

#169

[mention]Epignosis[/mention]

You available?

#170

I need five minutes.

#171

room will be open

#172

[mention]Sloonei[/mention]

#173

Ten minutes, I needed apparently.

#174

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:38 pm @Sloonei

I'll be home at like midnight EST.

#175

I have never played with the Huns in my life. What an awful civilization.

#176

I know a lot of those super-pros with ratings north of 1900 or so tend to love the Huns. The wood saved in the Dark Age without needing houses goes a long way toward fast-Castling, and they can obliterate anyone with their cavalry. They're not as good a civilization for a migration map though.

#177

I was on an island with nothing. That sucked.

#178

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:44 pm I was on an island with nothing. That sucked.

We all were. The map we randomized into was "migration", wherein each player begins with a very small island of limited resources. In the middle of the map there is a larger continent rich in resources, and typically players would have to battle over that territory to survive.

#179

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:46 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:44 pm I was on an island with nothing. That sucked.
We all were. The map we randomized into was "migration", wherein each player begins with a very small island of limited resources. In the middle of the map there is a larger continent rich in resources, and typically players would have to battle over that territory to survive.

in other words I was just way late to the party.

#180

I had no reason to personally resign, but I knew Daisy was screwed pretty early on, so as soon as I saw Epi did, I was like, well, shit. Lol.

#181

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:43 pm I know a lot of those super-pros with ratings north of 1900 or so tend to love the Huns. The wood saved in the Dark Age without needing houses goes a long way toward fast-Castling, and they can obliterate anyone with their cavalry. They're not as good a civilization for a migration map though.

Like I said, I never played as the Huns. Trying to find your fucking "house" button when you've never played as them before makes for a difficult early game when you've been away for so long and think you're going crazy or something's wrong with the game.

#182

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:00 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:43 pm I know a lot of those super-pros with ratings north of 1900 or so tend to love the Huns. The wood saved in the Dark Age without needing houses goes a long way toward fast-Castling, and they can obliterate anyone with their cavalry. They're not as good a civilization for a migration map though.
Like I said, I never played as the Huns. Trying to find your fucking "house" button when you've never played as them before makes for a difficult early game when you've been away for so long and think you're going crazy or something's wrong with the game.

#183

It took me like 10 minutes to realise that Aztecs don't get stables.

#184

I played as the Saracens, who I've actually used before. Hadn't used most of your all's though.

#185

I need to stop working nights

#186

I'm still itching to get 8 folks at once one of these days. 7 v Jay!!

#187

Bring it.

#188

Sorry! I was drivin around yeaterday and couldn't play.

I'll install after work today and will see if I have time this week.

#189

I got freaking decimated early on, by three measly knights. It was not what I would call an enjoyable experience, lol.

#190

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:29 am I got freaking decimated early on, by three measly knights. It was not what I would call an enjoyable experience, lol.

Protip for anyone who isn't already aware:

All units in Age of Empires are designed for specific combat situations and are favorable against different foes. For almost every unit there is at least one counter-unit, designed to perform well in that engagement. The counter-unit for all melee cavalry (the scout like and knight line) is the spearman line at the barracks. Spearmen still have some difficulty against knights (Feudal vs. Castle), but they're much more effective than militia-line units. Epignosis used this against me when I landed three knights on his island (he countered with spears).

To make this easier to view, I'll make a quick table:

*edit: I forgot to include camel units. They are quite effective against all cavalry, but little else.

#191

If it's unclear what I mean by "line", I mean the full upgrade tree from a starting point:

Militia-line = militia, man-at-arms, long swordsman, two-handed swordsman, champion
Spearmen-line = spearman, pikeman, halberdier
Archer-line = archer, crossbowman, arbalest
Skirmisher-line = skirmisher, elite skirmisher, imperial skimisher (only available with recent expansion)
Heavy cavalry line = knight, cavalier, paladin
Light cavalry line = scout, light cavalry, hussar
Ranged cavalry line = cavalry archer, heavy cavalry archer
Camel line = camel, heavy camel, imperial camel (recent expansion only)
Castle line = civilization unique unit, elite version
Mangonel line = mangonel, onager, siege onager
Battering ram line = battering ram, capped ram, siege ram
Scorpion line = scorpion, heavy scorpion
Galley line = galley, war galley, galleon
Fire ship line = fire raft (recent expansion only), fire ship, fast fire ship
Demolition ship line = demolition raft (recent expansion only), demolition ship, heavy demolition ship
Cannon galleon line = cannon galleon, elite cannon galleon

#192

Then of course there are monks. I find them extremely difficult to play with, but with some civilizations (especially the Spanish) they are the most powerful units period.

#193

I played a game with an AI Spanish team last week. They didn't even have an army, just a hundred monks.

#194

Anyone game for a game?

#195

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:43 pm Anyone game for a game?

Not today, sorry. Appointments and deliveries and things.

#196

kewl cewl cool cule kule kool

#197

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:43 pm Anyone game for a game?

I don't know. My asshole still hurts.

#198

Anyone able to play tonight? I probably will be able to, thought it might be worthwhile to see if we can swing one.

[mention]Epignosis[/mention] [mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] [mention]DrWilgy[/mention] [mention]Quin[/mention] [mention]Sloonei[/mention]

#199

There's a good chance. Tag me again when the time comes. If folks prefer we can do co-op, or I can go on my own. I don't mean to sound super conceited; I just don't want the game to be shitty for anyone.

#200

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:32 pm There's a good chance. Tag me again when the time comes. If folks prefer we can do co-op, or I can go on my own. I don't mean to sound super conceited; I just don't want the game to be shitty for anyone.

I'd be fine with co-op or all vs. Jay depending on how many folks we get.