JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:29 am
speedchuck stuff
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:43 pm
I'm starting a new job tomorrow. No idea what my web status will be like.
But if I was to vote now, I'd vote for Sloonei
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:21 pm
Voting LC for page 4 stuff that I said I was gonna vote Sloonei for.
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:26 pm
Wait wtf why is sloon voting on LC?
*keeps reading*
speedchuck's earliest set of posts follow a sort of stream-of-consciousness thread parallel to his continuing read through the thread. This little progression here is cute. I mean that in a good way. The first two would be a creative means of manufacturing fake poop to throw (the poop isn't stated and merely implied to exist). It's similar to what Quin did with the "why will I vote Epi" thing. It's atypical of mafioso game-entry.
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:28 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:12 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:53 pm
Uh,
you pick two Civs and buddy them so they trust you and don't lynch you. Long game benefit: survival, and more likely to lynch Civs along the way. You intimidate Sloonei out of coming after you. Benefit:
One less Civ coming after you; survival; more likely to lynch a Civ along the way.
Wait a minute.
How does Long Con
know Mesk, coolonialbob, and Sloonei are civilians?
Oh come on
In the hypothetical that LC is putting forward, of course they'd be likely civs.
This is always a stupid argument
While I agree with the logic of speedchuck's assertion here, it's unclear whether this is meant to reflect any particular way on Epignosis (the one who provided the argument being shat on). Logical gripes in a vacuum don't add much.
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:52 pm
Mkay
I think the Epi train was formed out of nothing, and from now on, I'm going to pick two peeps not to lynch on D1 of every game and announce it to the world just to prove it. It's a stupid start to a stupid argument filled with stupidity, and the only reason Epi hasn't fought his way out of it is that he doesn't know how to defend against asininity.
(I love you guys <3 But I calls them as I sees them)
Eliminating possibilities for lynch on D1 is not a scumtell, and that's where the whole thing started. Once it became LC vs Epi, the arguments went the same way they usually do. Having caught up, I would posit that both are bull-headed town. And the strongest point against Epi is probably Nutella.
So I'm not going to vote for any of the three. Lemme see what my other options are
This one seems more inclined toward a stance, sort of. It's defensive of Epi in that it is critical of those who opposed him. The specific read on Epi himself remains unclear -- only that he provided a perceived stupid argument and that Epi doesn't know how to "defend against asininity". I cannot believe "asininity" is a word. I thought for sure there'd be a red squiggly coming. I learned something today!
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:53 pm
(Basically I would think LC is scum but following such a stupid argument if he didn't genuinely see something in Epi is suicidal)
(And that's a town meta read on LC for me)
TMI Alert. My initial reception of speedchuck's handling of LC/Epi was a positive one, but I disagree with myself now.
In a scenario where both Epi and LC are civilians, speedchuck has exonerated one and defended the other based on what I perceive to be pretty dubious premises. High-roading both of them, by essentially suggesting both were being dumb instead of being suspicious, may be suggestive of unique information in speedchuck's possession -- information which could only come from a mafia alignment at this point in the game.
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:29 pm
Just a friendly reminder that the buddying case on Epi was just the worst
speedchuck really hates this argument. It's just so dumb. And Epi's handling of it was dumb. So much dumb.
I appreciate that speedchuck made a good effort to remain relevant under the restriction he posted with on Day 2. He did participate less than in prior phases, but I think that's understandable. It can't be easy to find inspiration (hi Quin) for slick new poems over and over. He made the most of the posts he made. Decent look.
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:37 pm
So I wasn't here for dayend, and I moved from Sprityo to Jack to try and save sloonei from a BS lynch. Kinda wish I hadn't now.
And Jack wasn't an infinitely better option.
Cbob is easy for me to see as scum, and I'm glad someone brought it up. I didn't feel like posting much during the day. It all started when Cbob saw my firey post against LC and jumped on the bandwagon against him. But for those that remember, my post train wasn't condemning of LC's alignment, only his reasoning. Cbob wasn't looking for a read, he was looking for an excuse.
In general, it feels like Cbob is trying to hide his lack of scumhunting behind aggression and agreement, depending on the tide of the game. Most of the end of D2 had Cbob waving his vote in sloon's face without substantiating it or arguing it.
"But he seems so confident!"
Yeah, that's what I do as scum. I'd vote there.
Sprit is still somewhat below null for me. The freak-out/leave-thread post didn't really affect that.
Sloon is top town read (and was before the lynch, thanks). DDL is prob good. I waffle on Jack.
Regarding Sig's spec: I usually don't worry about 3rd parties until a kill shows up. Or at least some kind of marks.
The green highlighted portion is another example of general criticism to arguments/cases provided -- in this instance it was the Sloonei near-lynch which was super dumb.
The orange portion is rather yuck at face value.
"The lack of defense cbob is getting is kinda disturbing"
I acknowledge speedchuck was answering my own prompt here, but I'm still not sure this content is going somewhere. All possibilities are discussed, and a semi-conclusion is derived -- without being conclusive. The latter post strikes me as pointless.
"blatant misreprentation"
I don't hate this defense he provided against my grievance. I can understand why a civilian speedchuck would be irritated in this circumstance, and why the suspicion would be reflected.
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:36 pm
I think my use of misrepresentation was inspired by Epi.
I spent ten minutes or so tone-reading your mafia game and looking for nebulous similarities. Pleh. I'm not clearing you, but I'd probably give you a light town read.
Also wow I played a really different game in Currents.
He forgave me really fast, based only on this meta stuff from the two past mafia-aligned games I provided.
Night 2 rainbow
At this point in the game, I'd say these reads were pretty much with-the-grain across each tier, excepting only Epignosis. It's surprising to see Epignosis, a player speedchuck has spoken of frequently in this post history, stuck in the yellow pile alongside the guy with zero posts.
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:01 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:43 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:40 pm
Totally judging you all on your GTH reads of me
So like, one person townreads you. How does that make you feel?
Like I clearly need to play more games, firmly establish my meta.
Or maybe it's their fault. Thus the judging.
A lot of people seem to be put off by self-meta like this, but I tend to be a fan -- at least in the right dosage. In this regard I appreciate speedchuck's willingness to shoo at the bad GTH reads he received based on perceived meta misinterpretation. Some baddies don't even try it. Cool beans.
Big ass reads list
It must be said that this is the most substantive full reads list that exists in this game thread, at least to my memory. I think speedchuck is
capable of making this post as a bad guy, but that's really the worst thing I can say about it. I think it's a quality contribution and a good look for him. The reads not labeled "EGH" are assertive for the most part and bear an agreeable tone. The reads labeled "EGH" are understandable. Conclusive reads on
everyone is a lot to ask. It should also be noted that a more concrete stance on Epi was taken here, specifically in the negative direction. That at least resolves a long-standing void in this post history.
"Screw you mate"
Candid reception of suspicion stated by dunya. That opening statement is rather curt. I'm not sure a mafia speedchuck would reflect suspicion upon dunya, a player who is so likely to engage him in a long argument, with quite the fervor displayed here.
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This was a very mixed bag. I have discussed multiple grievances and positives here. The worst of it is probably the TMI notion I discussed regarding his reception of LC/Epi. The best might be at the very end there, between the reads compilation and his reaction to dunya's accusation. The TMI notion itself is contingent upon other alignments (LC and Epi), and it moves me less. I lean more town than not on speedchuck -- it's a read which I think calls for a lot of dialogue.