Mountain Mafia [END]

#5951

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:23 pm I deleted two posts from an incorrect account.

Silly sockpuppets.

#5952

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:23 pm I deleted two posts from an incorrect account.

You monster!

#5953

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:24 pm nijuu... or anyone.

right now I wanna live with the theory nijuu is the last scum cos I don't suspect anyone else except chuck and he's almost a self-acclaimed 3p so.....

it would go back to nutella if it's not nijuu.

#5954

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:23 pm I deleted two posts from an incorrect account.

For a moment I thought you were resurrected and got happy.

#5955

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:41 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:24 pm nijuu... or anyone.
right now I wanna live with the theory nijuu is the last scum cos I don't suspect anyone else except chuck and he's almost a self-acclaimed 3p so.....

it would go back to nutella if it's not nijuu.

I'd lynch Quin, LC, Speed or you before Nutella.

#5956

Or maybe not LC since Speed knows something.

#5957

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:58 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:41 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:24 pm nijuu... or anyone.
right now I wanna live with the theory nijuu is the last scum cos I don't suspect anyone else except chuck and he's almost a self-acclaimed 3p so.....

it would go back to nutella if it's not nijuu.
I'd lynch Quin, LC, Speed or you before Nutella.

cool story bro, but idc

also, you'd lynch speed but you won't lynch LC cos speed knows something....makes sense.

And what about Kyle?

#5958

anyway, if it's not nijuu, I have to do more new ISOs. So I fucking hope it's nijuu.

#5959

also, you should try to place roles on remaining players. it's not as hard as you think if you pay attention. Just don't spectate about it in the thread, but for your theorizing and info, it narrows down that scum list for you.

#5960

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:03 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:58 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:41 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:24 pm nijuu... or anyone.
right now I wanna live with the theory nijuu is the last scum cos I don't suspect anyone else except chuck and he's almost a self-acclaimed 3p so.....

it would go back to nutella if it's not nijuu.
I'd lynch Quin, LC, Speed or you before Nutella.
cool story bro, but idc

also, you'd lynch speed but you won't lynch LC cos speed knows something....makes sense.

And what about Kyle?

Only one of Speed and LC is bad, not both.

I'm working under the assumption that Kyle is K2, based on the role's text and people's overwhelming lack of disposition to lynch him.

#5961

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:09 pm also, you should try to place roles on remaining players. it's not as hard as you think if you pay attention. Just don't spectate about it in the thread, but for your theorizing and info, it narrows down that scum list for you.

Sorry I already did.

#5962

And speculating about something then not telling people about it is not how I roll as civ. Either I say everything that is in my mind or I don't speculate at all. I don't lie as a civ.

#5963

Well maybe Kyle is not K2, but it's pretty obvious that everyone has noticed something about him and are not saying out loud. I'm aware of my inability to get clues so I try to pay attention at other people getting them.

#5964

#5965

Don't lynch the Blooper! I'm too adorable, and I just want to swim in your pool.

Okay, that didn't sound right. Regardless! I am pretty adorable. Also not bad. Big mistake.

#5966

Who do you think is bad, then?

#5967

[mention]nijuukyugou[/mention] : who do you think is bad?

#5968

[mention]nijuukyugou[/mention] what does the gou part of your name mean? I've been trying to figure it out.

I know the first part means 29 but 29 of what?

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #5969

The truth comes out....

so she's little, and therefore a little mountain. checks out.

#5970

I always thought it meant 2095.

#5971

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:52 pm

The truth comes out....

so she's little, and therefore a little mountain. checks out.

CONFIRMED

#5972

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:52 pm

The truth comes out....

so she's little, and therefore a little mountain. checks out.

This is gold. Pure gold.

#5973

Errrr it means #29

Shut up I liked DBZ a lot as a kid especially the androids still do no shame

#5974

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:53 pm I always thought it meant 2095.

that would be nisenkyujuugo

#5975

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:58 pm Errrr it means #29

Shut up I liked DBZ a lot as a kid especially the androids still do no shame

ooooohhhhhhh

that's not that bad

#5976

so gou means hashtag?

#5977

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:02 pm so gou means hashtag?

gou betyder antalet nudlar i en pasta.

#5978

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:44 pm @nijuukyugou : who do you think is bad?

Well, I see a lot of "confirmed" town that I can't confirm just due to not being here. So I'm looking at vote records, since that's hella easier than going back through posts. And, ummm, there were shenanigans, it seems? And a lot of wagons. But a lot of voting together, which is something I don't see very often. Anyway, I digress.

...

Actually, I don't. I was trying to analyze these votes, but I realized I don't even know who died when in which lynch, and there were shenanigans despite the number of votes (yes, I said shenanigans twice. Now three times). It means I have to actually look at what happened when and dig through posts, which is going to take longer than I have energy for tonight.

So, let me give some guts, I guess, from what I did see. I don't like DDL's and nutella's votes for Quin during the Wilgy lynch (unless, of course, Quin is bad, and Eloh was bussing him along with Wilgy, as I think I mentioned before as a tinfoil). I also don't like speedchuck's self-vote. I know there's speculation of volcanoes/bombs/exploding mountains/jesters/rabid marmots, but could also be a ploy to get people off his back and think he's not bad.

Them's the thoughts for now. Tired thoughts, but thoughts nonetheless. Time to stuff my face with cookies.

Linki - dunya

#29isthebestnumber #number29

#5979

THE MARMOT'S RESPITE

"Why do these mountains continue to smash each other?" The marmot wondered. "Can't they all just get along in harmony? I miss the old days of Day 2..."

But tonight was to be a reminder of those days.

No one has died. It is now Day 10. You have 24 hours to flatten some earth.

#5980

DAY 9

Who shall we eliminate today?
Poll ended at Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:02:19 pm
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

Dragon D. Luffy
0
No votes
Voters: None
dunya
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kylemii
0
No votes
Voters: None
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
nijuukyugou
0
No votes
Voters: None
nutella
0
No votes
Voters: None
Quin
0
No votes
Voters: None
sig
6
43%
Voters: dunya, Dragon D. Luffy, nijuukyugou, Quin, nutella, Kylemii
speedchuck
2
14%
Voters: Long Con, speedchuck
juliets (Hosts/Nons/Deads)
6
43%
Voters: JaggedJimmyJay, Epignosis, Sloonei, juliets, colonialbob, Marmot
Total votes: 14

#5981

Huh......

#5982

There's no benefit to skipping a kill. Sig was civ. Every living player is capable at this point of sending a kill PM and there's no known role blocking abilities or mobile protections, it's possible the mafia triggered a protective role last night again, but based on the night records and sheer number of failed kills(?) any mafia who's been active from the beginning would have to know which players wouldn't be worth attacking by now, or at least have a pretty good idea.

#5983

K2 wrote:Dear Mountains,

Description
Lynch Octopus, known in Japan as Lyncher Octopuld (リンチャー・オクトパルド, Rinchā Okutoparudo?), is an octopus-type Maverick in Mega Man X. She was a Maverick Hunter from the 6th Marine Unit under Sigma who followed his revolt. In Mega Man X5, she was revealed to be a friend and/or sister to Squid Adler, depending on the translation; her name is also written "Octopardo" here. She appears in Mega Man Maverick Hunter X in the same role as before, with a slightly effeminate personality.

Strategy
Her Homing Torpedo, though her main weapon is the least of the player's worries, as she can pull X toward her in a whirlpool and drain his energy, but if the player uses Boomerang Cutter against her three times, she loses her tentacles, and thus cannot use the ability. But his main weakness is the Rolling Shield, since it ruptures her internal buoyancy/pressure system.

In Mega Man Xtreme 2, her weakness is Tri-Thunder, the weapon wrested from Volt Catfish in said game, however hitting her with any version of another weapon Ray Claw just once will sever her tentacles. The weapon X gains from defeating Lynch Octopus is Marine Tornado, which is perhaps a nod to her whirlpool ability.

In Mountain Mafia, her weakness is Civilian Unity which can be gained by defeating Host Marmot on the Mountain Stage. She can also be defeated by being consecutively hit with 3 votes.

Love,
K2

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #5984

hmmmmmmmmm.

another missed kill actually makes me more inclined to think it might not be nijuu?? because it was mentioned that it could be a strategy for the mafia to deliberately skip the kill again so that we go after inactives, and I don't think niju has been paying the most detailed attention to the thread and in any case she wouldn't do that because she'd be the one lynched anyway, even though she was around during the night and would have sent a kill if she was the last mafia. of course there is always the possibility that it was a survival (Kilimanjaro is a possibility, but as Kyle said the mafia would probably know who that is if the same target survived like twice or whatever idk)

unless nijuu is pulling some crazy wifom bullshit, it's starting to look more like the baddie is one of the more active fellows hiding in plain sight. DDL, Quin, or Kyle are all fair game IMO.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #5985

yeah I'm voting for Quin again. going back to my old hunch. man, I'll feel so vindicated if it's him since I've had a lingering bad feeling for him for most of the game but kept getting waved away. And looking at his last few days of posts I'm seeing it tbh. his activity has dropped off a bit (and I know he has some RL stuff going on and that may explain part of it, but it still seems like he's hanging back a bit more from solving the endgame) and his posts about the "towncore" and around the sig lynch smell a bit fishy in retrospect.

vote quin

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #5986

guys the more I think about it the more sense it makes. Quin is bad my dudes.

#5987

the thing is, with sig gone the strategy of "don't kill anyone to frame the inactives" doesn't really make sense since there.... are no inactives left to lynch.

Nijuu was the next most probable lynch (alongside maybe Speed) regardless of who died on Night 9. So why actively choose not to kill anyone? The only thing accomplished by not killing night 9 is to buy us more time to sniff out the mafia.

#5988

hmmm..... it could be Quin.

#5989

Skipping kills at this point is either a move made based on less than the whole picture of the game (nijuu) or just... a very confident move involved in some longer term gambit....I guess?

#5990

It's not like there's no one alive that couldn't be killed without narrowing down our choices for mafia significantly

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #5991

Like, there's really no way niju deliberately skipping the kill makes any sense. If she had replaced into the mafia team and soon became the last living member, she'd kill at every chance she got. That being said, at this point in the game/with these numbers it would be pretty silly for the last mafia member to skip a kill regardless of who they are, so really the most likely scenario is that they sent in a kill but it was survived yet again. That or, yeah, an uber-confident gambit.... man now I'm starting to waffle on DDL being more likely than Quin, since DDL has been riding more of a civ cred wave all game and would be in a better position to pull such a gambit than Quin. Ugh idk man this game is messing with my brain again and I should go to bed.

#5992

I think it's still pretty unlikely that we could lose... I'm pretty sure it's just a matter of time til we lynch the right person.

#5993

......... passing on the night 9 kill avoids the scenario where the mafia is up against 2 players at once during a day phase. it avoids the tie scenario. but.... No. Everest is still a thing

d10 - 8
d11 - 6
d12 - 4
d13 - 2 tied lynch due to Sutter Buttes and Inherited Everest counteracting each other

Versus what would have happened if someone died last night....

d10 - 7
d11 - 5
d12 - 3
d13 - 1 mafia win

alright nevermind. i thought maybe it might have been an endgame posturing thing but that doesn't make sense either.

the mafia can only win this game if the last civvie death is by nightkill, which only happens if we have odd number players alive during day phases. Whoever is driving the mafia train right now has to choose not to kill at least once more or their best chance after somehow surviving 3 more cycles is a coin flip.

#5994

only the word "only" was supposed to be bolded

#5995

of course mafia could be planning to let another kill slip by to make the lynch phases odd numbers of players again but at that point they'd have just put themselves at risk of dying during 1-2 more lynch phases. despite that... they're still going to have to skip another kill at some point or risk losing to a coin flip.

#5996

I don't know why nobody died last night, but chances are slim that they were going for an odd number of players come end game because..they already had it. There have been so many missed night kills in this game that I don't think we can put it up to role usage anymore. I don't think there are even enough relevant roles to account for them.

I'm not bad. You can even sort me if you read my posts. I don't have it in me to come up with a convoluted scum strategy that involves intentionally withholding kills right now. That's pure WIFOM, aye.

I think nijuu is the way to go. I think we've had a low activity scum team from the start. Glorf/INH never showed up. Eloh said she was insanely busy. I recall Wilgy mentioning being out of touch with the game, and kills only started when 3J replaced MP.

#5997

guys we're gonna get yelled at for this drop in activity

#5998

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:27 am I don't know why nobody died last night, but chances are slim that they were going for an odd number of players come end game because..they already had it. There have been so many missed night kills in this game that I don't think we can put it up to role usage anymore. I don't think there are even enough relevant roles to account for them.

I'm not bad. You can even sort me if you read my posts. I don't have it in me to come up with a convoluted scum strategy that involves intentionally withholding kills right now. That's pure WIFOM, aye.

I think nijuu is the way to go. I think we've had a low activity scum team from the start. Glorf/INH never showed up. Eloh said she was insanely busy. I recall Wilgy mentioning being out of touch with the game, and kills only started when 3J replaced MP.

What about Sprityo?

#5999

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:48 am
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:27 am I don't know why nobody died last night, but chances are slim that they were going for an odd number of players come end game because..they already had it. There have been so many missed night kills in this game that I don't think we can put it up to role usage anymore. I don't think there are even enough relevant roles to account for them.

I'm not bad. You can even sort me if you read my posts. I don't have it in me to come up with a convoluted scum strategy that involves intentionally withholding kills right now. That's pure WIFOM, aye.

I think nijuu is the way to go. I think we've had a low activity scum team from the start. Glorf/INH never showed up. Eloh said she was insanely busy. I recall Wilgy mentioning being out of touch with the game, and kills only started when 3J replaced MP.
What about Sprityo?

sprityo was in this game?

#6000

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:27 am I think nijuu is the way to go. I think we've had a low activity scum team from the start. Glorf/INH never showed up. Eloh said she was insanely busy. I recall Wilgy mentioning being out of touch with the game, and kills only started when 3J replaced MP.

3J replaced MP Night 1, so that theory doesn't hold true. Eloh was busy, but she was around every day.

I'm going with nijuu for reasons stated before (I did believe strongly it was her out of sig/nijuu)

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