Mortal Kombat Mafia [ENDGAME]

[Epignosis]

Anybody else you people want on or off the poll?

[Kylemii]

Jack of Hearts should be on the poll today. That's my fault. Fixed. Vote again.

didnt take bwt off the poll tho

also no rabbit

i wasn't on the poll in vocaroo for like 3 whole phases in a row and no one even noticed.

[Kylemii]

A new friend?

the ermac sock

[Quin]

Anybody else you people want on or off the poll?

yeah i'll take a day 3 pass, since you're offering.

[MacDougall]

A new friend?

the ermac sock

You didn't mention that I was back. That hurts.

[MacDougall]

Bleeeeeeeh. @Mac lynch.

I'm definitely not sure how I feel about this post.

Some odd mixture of TMI, guessing your motive, wondering why you thought Kyle would be better, and being annoyed that you didn't make a stronger case on Kyle if you really wanted that lynch.

I think Mac was good and Kyle is bad. Also, lack of flip sucks. There's nothing else to it.

Ultimately, why did you vote for Mac?

The only good feels I have from Mac came from his hard-nosed style. Then I was told that he was like that as both alignments, so I went back to bleh on him.

Worse than Kylemii. Kyle's tone reads as town, though I'm still not seeing the civvie spark from him that I usually do. He 'shines' more in late game anyway, so I'm willing to give him more time.

I moved my vote from Wilgy to Mac so that I could commit, make a statement. I wanted my vote on the record, to weigh in on the choice even though my vote wasn't needed. Seems like a good thing to do, make my vote worth something on the record.

The only people who want to commit and make a statement in the context you've said are people who are trying to paint a picture of who they are in the thread. Why post with an agenda?

Scum.

[Kylemii]

A new friend?

the ermac sock

You didn't mention that I was back. That hurts.

shoot, sorry :x I actually didnt realize you were back until after I started the later part of that post

has sig stopped in? this place seems cooler than the first two

[Sloonei]

Someone tell me about Dunya.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Voted Wilgy btw

Why would you eeeeeeeeveeeeer do thaaaaaat?

Defend yourself.

Imma be annoyed if we lynch you and you aren't bad.

Why?

Cause 1) I am town and want to lynch players who are not
2) I'd rather lose cause I messed up than because my teammate threw the game

I don't know what it means that you aren't really trying to avoid lynch. (I'm still going to try to lynch you.)

[Jackofhearts2005]

okay cool no death and also Sloonei is here again and also we seem to have a new friend?

I have thoughts on the no-kill.

we have no protective roles, at least among the visible powers. technically speaking there could be a role with a bp vest or something but epi has stated his dislike for that mechanic. Idk I guess it's a possibility. Not the point.

Town has 3 visible ways to stop a kill. Or maybe 4 technically?

1. Subzero blocks the killer
2. Sheeva blocks the killer
3. Li Mei swaps goro's target with someone who was going to target the killer with something else
4. Li Mei swaps the mileena's target with someone else's target who was targetting player who would have been the victim
5. there are also some possibilities involving redirecting a Shang Tsung who is copying any of the above roles I guess
6. also maybe someone has a survival thing as a secret power?

The point is, most of those scenarios requires one of our roles to have targeted the killer with power disruption roles last night, which indicates to me that we're probably on the right track with one of our most recent suspicions. So that's where my focus will be today.

I like this thought process.

[nutellaphant]

okay cool no death and also Sloonei is here again and also we seem to have a new friend?

I have thoughts on the no-kill.

we have no protective roles, at least among the visible powers. technically speaking there could be a role with a bp vest or something but epi has stated his dislike for that mechanic. Idk I guess it's a possibility. Not the point.

Town has 3 visible ways to stop a kill. Or maybe 4 technically?

1. Subzero blocks the killer
2. Sheeva blocks the killer
3. Li Mei swaps goro's target with someone who was going to target the killer with something else
4. Li Mei swaps the mileena's target with someone else's target who was targetting player who would have been the victim
5. there are also some possibilities involving redirecting a Shang Tsung who is copying any of the above roles I guess
6. also maybe someone has a survival thing as a secret power?

The point is, most of those scenarios requires one of our roles to have targeted the killer with power disruption roles last night, which indicates to me that we're probably on the right track with one of our most recent suspicions. So that's where my focus will be today.

I like this thought process.

We believe it to be in error

[Kylemii]

Someone tell me about Dunya.

Dunya replaced in during day 2, the chaos realm phase which was a basic fuckpile of nonsense and people trying desperately to be heard because of almost everyone being cursed.

Dunya upon replacing in (and apparently having read the thread ahead of time) almost immediately made a relatively legible case against sig using rap lyrics and strategic quoting. Sig ended up getting lynched, and was a civ.

I think the two main arguments for and against dunya respectively are, "dunya came in and immediately made a strong effort despite adversity and communicated clearly when she didn't need to" and "dunya came in and immediately made a case against someone in order to save a teammate in distress"

There might be some other nuance involved but that's mostly it I think.

[Kylemii]

okay cool no death and also Sloonei is here again and also we seem to have a new friend?

I have thoughts on the no-kill.

we have no protective roles, at least among the visible powers. technically speaking there could be a role with a bp vest or something but epi has stated his dislike for that mechanic. Idk I guess it's a possibility. Not the point.

Town has 3 visible ways to stop a kill. Or maybe 4 technically?

1. Subzero blocks the killer
2. Sheeva blocks the killer
3. Li Mei swaps goro's target with someone who was going to target the killer with something else
4. Li Mei swaps the mileena's target with someone else's target who was targetting player who would have been the victim
5. there are also some possibilities involving redirecting a Shang Tsung who is copying any of the above roles I guess
6. also maybe someone has a survival thing as a secret power?

The point is, most of those scenarios requires one of our roles to have targeted the killer with power disruption roles last night, which indicates to me that we're probably on the right track with one of our most recent suspicions. So that's where my focus will be today.

I like this thought process.

We believe it to be in error

error?

[nutellaphant]

okay cool no death and also Sloonei is here again and also we seem to have a new friend?

I have thoughts on the no-kill.

we have no protective roles, at least among the visible powers. technically speaking there could be a role with a bp vest or something but epi has stated his dislike for that mechanic. Idk I guess it's a possibility. Not the point.

Town has 3 visible ways to stop a kill. Or maybe 4 technically?

1. Subzero blocks the killer
2. Sheeva blocks the killer
3. Li Mei swaps goro's target with someone who was going to target the killer with something else
4. Li Mei swaps the mileena's target with someone else's target who was targetting player who would have been the victim
5. there are also some possibilities involving redirecting a Shang Tsung who is copying any of the above roles I guess
6. also maybe someone has a survival thing as a secret power?

The point is, most of those scenarios requires one of our roles to have targeted the killer with power disruption roles last night, which indicates to me that we're probably on the right track with one of our most recent suspicions. So that's where my focus will be today.

I like this thought process.

We believe it to be in error

error?

Indeed. Error.

[Sloonei]

Someone tell me about Dunya.

Dunya replaced in during day 2, the chaos realm phase which was a basic fuckpile of nonsense and people trying desperately to be heard because of almost everyone being cursed.

Dunya upon replacing in (and apparently having read the thread ahead of time) almost immediately made a relatively legible case against sig using rap lyrics and strategic quoting. Sig ended up getting lynched, and was a civ.

I think the two main arguments for and against dunya respectively are, "dunya came in and immediately made a strong effort despite adversity and communicated clearly when she didn't need to" and "dunya came in and immediately made a case against someone in order to save a teammate in distress"

There might be some other nuance involved but that's mostly it I think.

I wouldn't want to lynch dunya based solely off her participation in a phase when she could only post in raps, fresh as they might have been. She's a very sincere player, so I think if she's being anything less than that it should come out sooner or later. I don't remember the last time I saw her scum game though. I'm pretty sure she's only been town on the syndicate so far.

[Sloonei]

what's an ermac? Like Mac but more prone to error?

[lapluie]

Voted Wilgy btw

Why would you eeeeeeeeveeeeer do thaaaaaat?

Defend yourself.

Imma be annoyed if we lynch you and you aren't bad.

Why?

Cause 1) I am town and want to lynch players who are not
2) I'd rather lose cause I messed up than because my teammate threw the game

I don't know what it means that you aren't really trying to avoid lynch. (I'm still going to try to lynch you.)

hi, I too want to kill help town
let's start with dunya

[lapluie]

Wilgy isn't even tryingggggg

[lapluie]

Voted Wilgy btw

Why would you eeeeeeeeveeeeer do thaaaaaat?

Defend yourself.

Imma be annoyed if we lynch you and you aren't bad.

Why?

Cause 1) I am town and want to lynch players who are not
2) I'd rather lose cause I messed up than because my teammate threw the game

I don't know what it means that you aren't really trying to avoid lynch. (I'm still going to try to lynch you.)

hi, I too want to kill help town
let's start with dunya

Sory I meant kill bad * help town

[nutellaphant]

what's an ermac? Like Mac but more prone to error?

Dis us at your peril, Sloonei

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I've been distracted by the other game lately and haven't paid this one proper attention. Tomorrow you'll have my Mafia focus.

[Quin]

Someone tell me about Dunya.

Dunya replaced in during day 2, the chaos realm phase which was a basic fuckpile of nonsense and people trying desperately to be heard because of almost everyone being cursed.

Dunya upon replacing in (and apparently having read the thread ahead of time) almost immediately made a relatively legible case against sig using rap lyrics and strategic quoting. Sig ended up getting lynched, and was a civ.

I think the two main arguments for and against dunya respectively are, "dunya came in and immediately made a strong effort despite adversity and communicated clearly when she didn't need to" and "dunya came in and immediately made a case against someone in order to save a teammate in distress"

There might be some other nuance involved but that's mostly it I think.

I wouldn't want to lynch dunya based solely off her participation in a phase when she could only post in raps, fresh as they might have been. She's a very sincere player, so I think if she's being anything less than that it should come out sooner or later. I don't remember the last time I saw her scum game though. I'm pretty sure she's only been town on the syndicate so far.

dunya launched an immediate case on me after the sig lynch. I find said case disingenuous. I recommend you have a look.

[Sloonei]

Someone tell me about Dunya.

Dunya replaced in during day 2, the chaos realm phase which was a basic fuckpile of nonsense and people trying desperately to be heard because of almost everyone being cursed.

Dunya upon replacing in (and apparently having read the thread ahead of time) almost immediately made a relatively legible case against sig using rap lyrics and strategic quoting. Sig ended up getting lynched, and was a civ.

I think the two main arguments for and against dunya respectively are, "dunya came in and immediately made a strong effort despite adversity and communicated clearly when she didn't need to" and "dunya came in and immediately made a case against someone in order to save a teammate in distress"

There might be some other nuance involved but that's mostly it I think.

I wouldn't want to lynch dunya based solely off her participation in a phase when she could only post in raps, fresh as they might have been. She's a very sincere player, so I think if she's being anything less than that it should come out sooner or later. I don't remember the last time I saw her scum game though. I'm pretty sure she's only been town on the syndicate so far.

dunya launched an immediate case on me after the sig lynch. I find said case disingenuous. I recommend you have a look.

but i'm tired

[Sloonei]

what's an ermac? Like Mac but more prone to error?

Dis us at your peril, Sloonei

what're you gonna do, lynch me?

[Kylemii]

error?

Indeed. Error.

retrieve error log

[dunya]

No kill



Nutella is bad.

[dunya]

what's an ermac? Like Mac but more prone to error?

Dis us at your peril, Sloonei

what're you gonna do, lynch me?

Please ISO me to see what I told Quin. He's being unreasonably obtuse for my reasoning.

Also Radicalfuzz did what Quin did last game and I called him our on it the same way and he was scum. I'm not pulling crap out of my ass.

Also welcome back sloonei and MacDougall

[dunya]

Quin can't handle suspicion and cries wolf.

Interesting

[Quin]

Quin can't handle suspicion and cries wolf.

Interesting

No.

[dunya]

I'm ignoring you this day phase Quin. Sorry. Not being rude but don't care about your case on me and I won't be pushed into another tunnel of defence like every game.

I'd rather spend energies elsewhere.

(Also doing that burns me out from the games and juliets suffers)

[Sloonei]

I really do not have the energy to launch into any ISOs in this game. I don't expect to do that while I'm here. I'm sorry. But I will try to contribute as much as I can to the conversation. I'm a trusted voice whose immune to scrutiny, and I appreciate the power that gives me for these 48 hours. If there are any posts anyone would like me to look at specifically, link me to them and I'll say whatever I have to say.
But not right now because 2:30 and I have to be up relatively early tomorrow.

[Sloonei]

*who's immune to scrutiny

Please forgive me, i'm clearly a wreck

[dunya]

I'll link you to the specific posts when I am on my laptop theb since you're not in a hurry now @Sloonei so you can weigh in on my supposed disgenuinity.

[dunya]

Kyle gets townie points for being the first one trying to make a defense on why the kill failed.

[dunya]

Sorry I mind find a reason*

I woke up 30 mins ago. Still in sleep mode.

[dunya]

*who's immune to scrutiny

Please forgive me, i'm clearly a wreck

We're you spectating after you died? Who's pinged you as a spectator and why?

Same questions to [mention]MacDougall [/mention]

[dunya]

I wonder if sig is alive too?

[Sloonei]

*who's immune to scrutiny

Please forgive me, i'm clearly a wreck

We're you spectating after you died? Who's pinged you as a spectator and why?

Same questions to @MacDougall

A little bit, but it was Chaos and then Fiddler started and absorbed my attention. I can't say I developed any strong reads.

[Sloonei]

I wonder if sig is alive too?

I believe he is. All the dead players are resurrected for the day.

[nutella]

No kill



Nutella is bad.

'Splain pls bb

[MacDougall]

*who's immune to scrutiny

Please forgive me, i'm clearly a wreck

We're you spectating after you died? Who's pinged you as a spectator and why?

Same questions to @MacDougall

only immediately after my death where speedchuck made me think he was scum

[nutellaphant]

Kyle gets townie points for being the first one trying to make a defense on why the kill failed.

Does he retain those townie points if he were deliberately misrepresenting the actual events?

[Kylemii]

Kyle gets townie points for being the first one trying to make a defense on why the kill failed.

Does he retain those townie points if he were deliberately misrepresenting the actual events?

wait what are you talking about? what events were misrepresented?

the only represented event was the fact that there wasn't a kill followed by speculation on ways it could take place, which part of that isn't accurate?

[nutella]

I think Ermac is suggesting that the actual mechanic by which there was no death was something that you didn't mention. I haven't looked at the roles closely enough to know whether you missed anything, but it could be something that's not public and perhaps Ermac is suggesting you know something?

[nutella]

Wait Ermac is a role. I feel dumb.

Ermac, you keep saying "we." Are you one person, or more? Are you the person with the role Ermac, or someone else somehow affected by that role?

[Kylemii]

I don't see anything either... like again it's entirely possible that a secret power could have been involved, since every role has one, but I still think the end result is that we should look deeper into the players that might have been heavily suspected enough for them to be targeted by one of those 3 civvie roles. Also... even if the kill was stopped by some other means, we should be looking at those players anyways.

[Kylemii]

Is it.... possible someone actually did die and we just don't know yet because we're in the nethersphere?

[nutella]

that sounds... plausible. Looks like this day is going to be a puzzle.

[nutellaphant]

I think Ermac is suggesting that the actual mechanic by which there was no death was something that you didn't mention. I haven't looked at the roles closely enough to know whether you missed anything, but it could be something that's not public and perhaps Ermac is suggesting you know something?

We don’t believe that the conclusion that Kylemii has drawn is necessarily accurate. That said, what does one make of Kylemii’s argument if he too knew the truth and it wasn’t reflected in the conclusion that he’s drawn here publicly? Is there an advantage for him in that case?

[Kylemii]

what is the truth? do you know why there wasn't a kill ermac?