Fiddler on the Roof Mafia

[Marmot]

I won't let that happen.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Hey Marmot, how do you feel about being the very last player in the POE pool to be lynched? Or the second-last?

[Marmot]

It's easier for every player to stay consistent with that read, because they can look around at every other player in the game, and see the same thing happening. Thus, anything I say will fall on deaf ears.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I don't know what you mean. What read? What is the same thing happening? Eh?

[Marmot]

I don't know what you mean. What read? What is the same thing happening? Eh?

Exactly what you just said! PoE reads.

Anyway, I've got a 1:00 meeting. and I likely won't be on after that. Good luck civilians!!!

[FZ.]

It's easier for every player to stay consistent with that read, because they can look around at every other player in the game, and see the same thing happening. Thus, anything I say will fall on deaf ears.

That's not true. I keep changing my mind. May change it again


When the hell did that fz.fz.fz. appear? It's not there now...or is it?

[FZ.]

Marmot, are you bad?

[Spacedaisy]

I'm not sure I'm following what Marmot is saying.

FZ: sometimes when someone changes their vote it makes the poll glitch for them and shows up like that.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I don't know what you mean. What read? What is the same thing happening? Eh?

Exactly what you just said! PoE reads.

Anyway, I've got a 1:00 meeting. and I likely won't be on after that. Good luck civilians!!!

A POE pool is not static. If material in the thread dictates that someone should be removed from it or added to it then that can certainly occur. We all have individual perspectives of how that pool looks as well. We wouldn't be asking you questions if our ears were deaf to your answers. Perhaps someone's ears are deaf if they're evil, but there's only one or maybe two of those here right?

[Sloonei]

My principal hangup on NVN is that he's an unfamiliar player. I don't if the parts of his game that I have difficulty following are that way because he's suspicious, or simply because I don't know what he's like as a player. I can read Marmot a little bit, and I've felt mildly good about him since Day 1, but never anything better than that. Now that I feel I can nearly narrow my pool down to just Marmot and the newcomer (Daisy and wilgy are still in the peripheries, but they're not the focus), I find myself feeling more like NVN is the low-hanging fruit and scapegoat instead if thr final baddie.

[MacDougall]

And yet you are voting for him.

[Sloonei]

And yet you are voting for him.

With 7 hours to go

[Epignosis]

Who IS this guy?

Poll runs till Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:15 amPlease note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.
You may select 1 option

Daisy
0
No votes


Voters: None

Dizzy
0
No votes


Voters: None

Epi
0
No votes


Voters: None

FZ
0
No votes


Voters: None

JJJ
0
No votes


Voters: None

Kyle
0
No votes


Voters: None

Mac
0
No votes


Voters: None

Marmot
4
33%


Voters: MacDougall, FZ., Spacedaisy, novaselinenever

NVN
4
33%


Voters: DrWilgy, Marmot, Kylemii, Sloonei

Sloonei
0
No votes


Voters: None

Wilgy
0
No votes


Voters: None

AND HIS NAME IS JOHN CENA! (Host/dead/non)
4
33%


Voters: lapluie, LoRab, nutella, DFaraday


Total votes: 12

[Epignosis]

That's for later.

[Sloonei]

That's for later.

Whatcha gonna do?

[Dyslexicon]

Why are we splitting the votes and making it all *insert shrug emoji*

I’m voting NVN, cause duh.

On phone now, will probably be able to read and comment when home

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Why are we splitting the votes and making it all *insert shrug emoji*

I’m voting NVN, cause duh.

On phone now, will probably be able to read and comment when home

Why is it duh?

[FZ.]

Why are we splitting the votes and making it all *insert shrug emoji*

I’m voting NVN, cause duh.

On phone now, will probably be able to read and comment when home

We're going to let the rabi decide, assuming he's still alive. He's closer to god, maybe he'll have some divine help...

[Sloonei]

Why are we splitting the votes and making it all *insert shrug emoji*

I’m voting NVN, cause duh.

On phone now, will probably be able to read and comment when home

We're going to let the rabi decide, assuming he's still alive. He's closer to god, maybe he'll have some divine help...

Why

[Sloonei]

That was my phone deciding to post before I was done typing, but I guess "why" functions adequately enough.

Why is it preferable to leave this lynch in the rabi's hands?

[FZ.]

That was my phone deciding to post before I was done typing, but I guess "why" functions adequately enough.

Why is it preferable to leave this lynch in the rabi's hands?

It was a joke...


I just went back to read the exchange from last page where Marmot accused NVN of faking a forced vote. If this was the baddies plan, to fake a forced vote, or even to force one of their own to vote Marmot for example, wouldn't NVN need to actually convince us this is what happened? Instead, he just voted for Marmot without saying a thing. I'm trying to decide who is lying.

[FZ.]

Basically, if Marmot was bad and wanted to force someone to vote for him to make himself look better, wouldn't he pick someone other than NVN? If he just wanted to frame NVN, why not force him to vote for someone who looks a lot more civvie like than Marmot? What would be the point in forcing him to vote for someone we are considering to be bad, and who actually is bad?

[FZ.]

Sorry, I'm thinking as I go, so I'm posting again. The two previous posts leave two options, in my opinio:
1. NVN is lying and was faking a force.
2. He's not lying, but the person who forced him is not Marmot.

Does this make sense? I want to move my vote off of Marmot

[Epignosis]

If you care about the roof, and if you believe that I care about the roof, then I have a few requests.

First, under no circumstance should this poll end in a tie. Sorry rabbi, but I hear you have a midnight bris with the new proselyte, Bruce Banner, and you will have your hands full. Listen: There is one mafia member left. There is no saving or throwing under the bus at this stage. Assuming we're still haunted, there are nine civilians left. These civilians should come to a consensus. Even if it means the person you wanted to lynch today lives another day, so be it: A consensus is important. I will say it once again: Under no circumstance should this poll end in a tie or even be close.

Second, I am asking that as many skilled roofers be here during the final hour of the Day. That's 12:15am EST to 1:15am EST. I know that's impossible for some, but I hope it is not an inconvenience for most. A consensus before the above-mentioned hour would be ideal, but is not necessary as long as there are enough people here to reach a consensus.

Third, when the above-mentioned hour comes, I will have some specific requests to make of certain individuals. If you trust in my love for the roof, please comply with my request. Even if you do not trust me, humor me.

I will not be (truly) available until later this evening after my kosher evening meal and fulfilling my hosting duties elsewhere.

[nutella]

Sorry rabbi, but I hear you have a midnight bris with the new proselyte, Bruce Banner, and you will have your hands full.

saving this for the sockys. well done

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Second, I am asking that as many skilled roofers be here during the final hour of the Day. That's 12:15am EST to 1:15am EST. I know that's impossible for some, but I hope it is not an inconvenience for most.

I think it's actually 11:15pm to 12:15am EST.

[Sloonei]

Why are we speculating about NVN's vote being forced, and which vote are we talking about?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Why are we speculating about NVN's vote being forced, and which vote are we talking about?

I would presume his vote for Marmot last phase, otherwise I don't get it either. I would hardly even get that.

[Spacedaisy]

Or 3. NVN wasn't forced at all and just fumbled and Marmot might be reaching for any kind of justification at the moment.

What is it that makes you move your vote to NVN?

linki @Epi: I can be around most of today, I'm off.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'll be pretty surprised at this point if there isn't someone evil between the two with votes right now.

[FZ.]

I moved back to NVN. There's no tie at the moment. I've already had my Kosher meal, benched and everything, so I'll be going to bed. Sorry I won't be around when the day ends


@linki: His vote for Marmot last day. At least that's what I think he's referring to is there no poll thread any more?

[FZ.]

Or 3. NVN wasn't forced at all and just fumbled and Marmot might be reaching for any kind of justification at the moment.

What is it that makes you move your vote to NVN?

linki @Epi: I can be around most of today, I'm off.

I was going to vote for NVN in the first place, but then what you said made some sense to me and I changed, but I'm trying to understand what exactly is going on between Marmot and NVN. What was NVN trying to imply if not that he changed his vote because he had to?

[FZ.]

By the way, out of curiosity, what exactly does Perchik's role do? What would happen if someone redirected a player? Does his power get cancelled or does it move to another target than what he intended?

[Sloonei]

Why are we speculating about NVN's vote being forced, and which vote are we talking about?

I would presume his vote for Marmot last phase, otherwise I don't get it either. I would hardly even get that.

yeah, neither of these make sense to me. If it's this phase, why is he being forced to vote for the person he would probably have voted for regardless, and what makes the speculation viable at all? If it's yesterday's vote, he voted for Long Con initially. That doesn't make sense mechanically, and he's also provided justification for the vote change and stuck by it today.

[FZ.]

I'm just going to go to bed. I can't think at this state.

[Epignosis]

Second, I am asking that as many skilled roofers be here during the final hour of the Day. That's 12:15am EST to 1:15am EST. I know that's impossible for some, but I hope it is not an inconvenience for most.

I think it's actually 11:15pm to 12:15am EST.

Good call. Thank you.

[Spacedaisy]

I'm willing to go with the concensus if it's NVN, though I am leaning more Marmot after looking at yesterday. I just feel like his reasoning is really convoluted and it seems like he came in really assertive of NVN when that was kind of the thing to do and I don't feel like it seemed like he felt that way yesterday until things started possibly swinging against him.

But we can afford to lose one lynch if I am right, so I can roll with Epi's request if NVN is the way the majority want to go. I'll switch to NVN.

[Dyslexicon]

If you care about the roof, and if you believe that I care about the roof, then I have a few requests.

First, under no circumstance should this poll end in a tie. Sorry rabbi, but I hear you have a midnight bris with the new proselyte, Bruce Banner, and you will have your hands full. Listen: There is one mafia member left. There is no saving or throwing under the bus at this stage. Assuming we're still haunted, there are nine civilians left. These civilians should come to a consensus. Even if it means the person you wanted to lynch today lives another day, so be it: A consensus is important. I will say it once again: Under no circumstance should this poll end in a tie or even be close.

Second, I am asking that as many skilled roofers be here during the final hour of the Day. That's 12:15am EST to 1:15am EST. I know that's impossible for some, but I hope it is not an inconvenience for most. A consensus before the above-mentioned hour would be ideal, but is not necessary as long as there are enough people here to reach a consensus.

Third, when the above-mentioned hour comes, I will have some specific requests to make of certain individuals. If you trust in my love for the roof, please comply with my request. Even if you do not trust me, humor me.

I will not be (truly) available until later this evening after my kosher evening meal and fulfilling my hosting duties elsewhere.

I agree with all of this, and I also will try to be around at EoD, but with my random sleeping and the fact that it's really 6am for me, I can't promise anything.

[Kylemii]

I'm down to go with the consensus.

the only advantage to ties right now is that the rabbi is unlynchable if we only create ties

I will also be around at eod.

[Sloonei]

I don't have much urgency today. Our numbers are great and I feel confident in the 2-man/rodent POE. If we're wrong today, tomorrow is on the horizon.

[Sloonei]

That said, i'll at least be hovering around at EOD.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Hopefully we're not locked into a choice. EOD mobility would be a nice option.

[Epignosis]

Hopefully we're not locked into a choice. EOD mobility would be a nice option.

What's wrong with being locked into a choice?

[Epignosis]

3J- why haven't you even cast a vote yet?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Hopefully we're not locked into a choice. EOD mobility would be a nice option.

What's wrong with being locked into a choice?

If there's some insight or inspiration to come in this phase which points to a likely suspect, I'd like to lynch 'em today instead of tomorrow. It's not a huge deal, just prefer not to waste time.

3J- why haven't you even cast a vote yet?

I'm in no hurry. Two people have votes, and the one with most of them hasn't said he won't be back. I'm still listening.

[Epignosis]

Hopefully we're not locked into a choice. EOD mobility would be a nice option.

What's wrong with being locked into a choice?

If there's some insight or inspiration to come in this phase which points to a likely suspect, I'd like to lynch 'em today instead of tomorrow. It's not a huge deal, just prefer not to waste time.

3J- why haven't you even cast a vote yet?

I'm in no hurry. Two people have votes, and the one with most of them hasn't said he won't be back. I'm still listening.

Fair enough.

[MacDougall]

I will vote for Nova. I don't want to be the only one wrong if he is bad lol.

[Epignosis]

All right. This is fine.

JJJ and I are the only two who have not voted.

[Epignosis]

JaggedJimmyJay, please vote for me.

[Epignosis]

G-d bless you JaggedJimmyJay.