Fiddler on the Roof Mafia

[Marmot]

Haha.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Okay cool that makes things easy.

[Epignosis]

Okay cool that makes things easy.

My previous post was a joke.

Marmot laughed.

He got it.

Lynch.

[MacDougall]

I've got a wacky plan for tomorrow

[DFaraday]

Night 4 - Sunset, Sunset

Anatevka has been enchanted! And Epi is dead! I am so shocked I can't even talk right now!

Epi has been killed.

Anatevka is temporarily bewitched. It is now Night 4.5. You have 24 hours to send in your PMs.

[Kylemii]

night 4.5.......

why?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[JaggedJimmyJay]

night 4.5.......

why?

Probably something to do with whatever Epignosis was grumbling about when the night phase began. Further delays in the dang Marmot lynch.

[Kylemii]

to me, "bewitched" implies ghost lady involvement, since the ghost is the only real fantastic part of the play. I don't remember there being any magic users or anything

[Sloonei]

I guess I'll continue twiddling my thumbs.

[Sloonei]

to me, "bewitched" implies ghost lady involvement, since the ghost is the only real fantastic part of the play. I don't remember there being any magic users or anything

this definitely looks like the work of a g-g-ghost.

[Sloonei]

jinkies

[Kylemii]

I would like to hear from everyone what they would consider to be the biggest reason why they should be town-read.

[Sloonei]

I lynched LoRab.

[Quin]

I would like to hear from everyone what they would consider to be the biggest reason why they should be town-read.

i'm the mod

[Quin]

[mention]DFaraday[/mention]

I just wanted to let you all know that I'm looking for someone to take over MoD duties from tomorrow on while I'm away. If I can find one they'll introduce themselves, and if not...well, you'd better all be on your best behaviour

[Kylemii]

i wanna lynch quin

[Dyslexicon]

Enchanted, I'm sure!

[MacDougall]

I would like to hear from everyone what they would consider to be the biggest reason why they should be town-read.

I'm trying very hard okay

[MacDougall]

So where we at with this POE?

[FZ.]

RIP Epi I wish we knew what he meant before he died.


But I was thinking, what if Marmot's been trying to get lynched so we can find out what his role is? There are roles that would make him survive a lynch and prove he is a civvie. I think maybe that's why he keeps asking for that over and over again.


I don't want to go the Marmot way. So unless it's Daisy, which I'm starting to doubt, I'm beginning to think one of the trusted is really bad.
I wish I had time to ISO


Oh, and I think I proved I am a civvie, because I basically started the lynch on LC. No one was really talking about him before I came out after his suspicion of Epi and didn't stop until he got lynched.

[Kylemii]

I would like to hear from everyone what they would consider to be the biggest reason why they should be town-read.

I'm trying very hard okay

This is good, but I kinda meant more like... tangible reasons lol.

[Dyslexicon]

I'm not trying very hard and have now probably read about 50% of the game. =p
Tangible reasons are all over my posts. Is that enough? Good.

I have a question though. Is there any reason JJJ can't be scum? Last time he was all "I will slank a bit" pregame and then went ham all over the thread he was scum. I had iffies on him in the start.

I don't know if there's any reason not to keeel Marmot though.

Why are we trusting NVN again? Was that just something Epi said?

Not being able to see what players flip as is still weird.

[Kylemii]

maybe I'm just being overly anxious but my worst fear in this game is that our POE pool is flawed and we'll eventually end up at 2-1 lylo and I'll be part of it cus I'm barely paying this game much attention and i'll have to choose between two players who I can't remember why I trust :x

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Guys Marmot badically conceded. Go read his last exchange with Epi again.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

basically*

[FZ.]

Dyslexicon, I was preparing a post why JJJ could be bad, but decided to wait on it. Now JJJ comes out and tries to push harder for Marmot. I don't think Marmot will turn out bad if lynched. I think there's a reason he's been asking to get lynched, and what troubles me the most about JJJ is the fact that he could try and figure out what Epi was doing, but can't figure out what Marmot is doing. So yeah, at this point, I think we should be looking into him more thoroughly

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Are you kidding me.

I actually just slapped my own face so hard that it physically hurt.

Lynch the guy that conceded. Lynch the guy that is begging to be relieved of this game ASAP because he knows he can’t win.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Also it should be fucking obvious that I’m a civilian. I thought everyone had moved on from me for the same reason. Someone with a clue please help me out here before tinfoil mania takes hold of this game for no reason.

[FZ.]

Correction, I think there's a good chance Marmot won't be lynched at all if we try and lynch him, depending maybe on how many of us try to do it. There are two payers at least that can survive a lynch. One is Tyvie's wife, who can stop a lynch, and the other is his daughter that could survive a lynch if she started the days with minus votes. I'm not sure how much minuses Wilgy or Marmot have, but it's possible each of them has one of these roles. Otherwise, why would Marmot just ask to be lynched. Makes no sense to me unless he wants to prove something. He's not they type to just give up and forfeit the game

[FZ.]

Are you kidding me.

I actually just slapped my own face so hard that it physically hurt.

Lynch the guy that conceded. Lynch the guy that is begging to be relieved of this game ASAP because he knows he can’t win.

Well, right now, I'm pretty sure Marmot had a purpose and is not just begging to be relived of this game. I expect more from you. I can't be sure you are the baddie, but I'm starting to be sure Marmot isn't it either.

[FZ.]

And you pushing for his lynch because he's presumably begging to be relieved is not making me feel better about you JJJ. Try harder

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Are you kidding me.

I actually just slapped my own face so hard that it physically hurt.

Lynch the guy that conceded. Lynch the guy that is begging to be relieved of this game ASAP because he knows he can’t win.

Well, right now, I'm pretty sure Marmot had a purpose and is not just begging to be relived of this game. I expect more from you. I can't be sure you are the baddie, but I'm starting to be sure Marmot isn't it either.

This was Epi’s last joke.

Marmot got it.

He knows he’s not surviving the game. He doesn’t care to drag it out. Epignosis jokingly threatened to drag it out. Marmot doesn’t want that.

Even if he is being a terrible civilian and wants to be revealed as a lynch survivor, that would need to e revealed before LyLo. A failed lynch at endgame is a loss.

We already had a failed night kill. “Survives the first attempt on their life” could have been expended then.

[Kylemii]

gotta go with jay on this one actually

[JaggedJimmyJay]

And you pushing for his lynch because he's presumably begging to be relieved is not making me feel better about you JJJ. Try harder

I don’t give a shit. Try harder to realize why I’m not bad.

Y’all are paying no attention.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

gotta go with jay on this one actually

Please tell people why you think I’m a civilian. It’s important that someone else does it. I can make a case for myself too separately, but you don’t need a case.

[Kylemii]

i don't think marmot's actions are congruent with someone who wants to be lynched to help with PoE, maybe he just wants to die for regular reasons?

like maybe at first he could have just wanted to die to help with PoE so he could go on vacation in the mountains or whatever the heck he said, but he's been too consistent for his thing to be about like.... A lynch survival role or something.

[FZ.]

Okay, you feel honest. I'm just trying really hard here, and I think we need to look somewhere else. Is there a place where we can still find the polls? I can't find those anymore.
Trust me JJJ, I'm paying attention. For a smart guy, I'd expect you to pay attention too. I believe Marmot is not our guy. The night kill is not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about lynch survival.
Epi's joke was what it was. I've never seen Marmot just tell people to kill him to end the game, have you? If he was trying to end the game, why give more thoughts? Here's my biggest clue:

He posted the poll results, laughed at the votes for Epi, and clapped at the fact that he got no votes, possibly giving him another -1 vote.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Why I’m a civilian as far as I am able to tell you myself:

I’m the one who drove that Long Con lynch directly after LoRab went down. I made him the first priority, I slaughtered him wthout mercy, and left the last mafioso all alone by Night 3.

[FZ.]

JJJ, I've trusted you all game, and this is me going crazy because I am out of options. I'm back to thinking you're civvie. I don't need the case.
I think I'm right about Marmot, and my last post should prove it. It's jumbled but I hope it's still clear enough.

We need to look somewhere else.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I need to go back to sleep. I’m going to make it crystal clear later why I don’t think Marmot is that -1 vote role. If he is then he couldn’t have played it worse.

[FZ.]

Maybe he couldn't have played it worse, but there's a good chance he did. Just for the sake I'm right, I'm not going to vote for him. If you all decide it should be him, which I really don't recommend, at least make sure that he gets enough votes but not too much, so that if has -1 votes, he will be saved and proved civvie. That's my take. In the meanwhile, I'd look again at Daisy, and at some other people as well.

I've questioned Dyslexicon and JJJ this last day. Their reactions satisfy me, so I'd look at the rest for now.
Not sure I'll be able to be here more today. We'll see

[Kylemii]

gotta go with jay on this one actually

Please tell people why you think I’m a civilian. It’s important that someone else does it. I can make a case for myself too separately, but you don’t need a case.

mmmmm you made a comment during a specific situation that led me to believe that you caused something to happen. the player who caused the thing in question to happen would have been present during that event.

if the implication you made was false then you should have been questioned, but you weren't, so it probably wasn't.

[Kylemii]

i think... we kind of have to deal with our POE pool first regardless. the mafia isn't going to do it for us. if we start dipping into tinfoils and deep cuts then we risk creating a losing situation in the future.

A 2-1 lylo of 3 players who all interacted with LC and LR most sounds a lot easier to solve than a lylo with 3 players who interacted with them the least.

[MacDougall]

I'm starting to get the impression that my hopping on 15 minutes before the deadline is coming back to bite me. Except that the only reason I did hop back online is because I saw some crazy shit happening in the polls.

I asked what the hell was going on.

Epignosis, a man with three votes, tells me to vote DrWilgy if I'm a civilian.

Dizzy says they doesn't like my timing, tells me to vote Wilgy, then calls me mafia.

Dizzy asked for an explanation on why not to lynch Wilgy.

Epignosis says I'm mafia if I vote nova.

Jay said no one was trying to lynch Epignosis.

DrWilgy looked drunk.

Sloonei was around but didn't respond at all.




I was willing to move my vote given some sort of explanation. I didn't get anything convincing at all. Just orders. So I didn't move my vote.

Anyway, back to catching up.

This man is a civ. Mafia don't post like dis. Civ.

[MacDougall]

I need to go back to sleep. I’m going to make it crystal clear later why I don’t think Marmot is that -1 vote role. If he is then he couldn’t have played it worse.

He civ. Don't bother. We was wrong.

[MacDougall]

I'll be voting for the Interstellar Flower tomorrow.

[FZ.]

i think... we kind of have to deal with our POE pool first regardless. the mafia isn't going to do it for us. if we start dipping into tinfoils and deep cuts then we risk creating a losing situation in the future.

A 2-1 lylo of 3 players who all interacted with LC and LR most sounds a lot easier to solve than a lylo with 3 players who interacted with them the least.

Well, if we lynch the wrong people and then the mafia kills the people that interacted most with LC and Lorab, you won't have much.

Mac, I'm glad we agree that Marmot is good

[FZ.]

I'm voting Daisy for now, because I'll probably won't be here for the rest of the day.

[juliets]

Hi everybody, just wanted you to know I am taking over facilitation (mod) duties from Quin who is leaving on vacation when he wakes up. If you have any concerns or frustrations please do not hesitate to contact me. I am on eastern time and work most mornings and early afternoon but am around in the mid to late afternoon and evenings. Good luck to everyone!