[ENDGAME] - The Fellowship of the Ring Mafia (LoTR I)

[Ambray]

Oh wait...MacDougall, that post of yours was massive. Damn mafia right there.

And yeah, I like to be sarcastic. Sue me.

[Kylemii]

mmmmmmmmm [mention]Ambray[/mention] [mention]MacDougall[/mention]

please tell me who you would lynch today if you weren't currently top vote getters, and neither of you could vote for the other.

[MacDougall]

Dude, never did I say I was suspicious of you. Way to put words into my mouth.

Sorry I though the emoji made it obvious that was a joke.

I said I didn't like the votes sitting on you. That was all.

Neither do I.

Simply because you said you have given up and due to you saying that multiple times I've just classes you as civ. Yet here you are fighting and making cases...

I have told you all several times I can't play properly on my phone. I'm now on my work computer.

Yes, there was discomfort. I'm out of practice playing mafia.

Okay that's fine.

My 'lolol' post is because literally the exact same conversation had just happened in the burglary game not long before. I've also joked about being n00b in other games. I like to joke.

Okay cool I wasn't in that game.

I've started a new job since signing up to this game and am working 15hour days on top of studies. Not sure I can really defend against my real life there...

I can sympathise.

And again with the large post shit.

WTF has mafia turned into that those are considered large posts. For real.

It's not that the post was large. It was that it was large and without quoting, seeming to be at nobody. Just a big "this is an expression" post. I don't care about post size, I'm talking about context.

Sorry about the crappy formatting. I tried something new and it kinda sucks so I will never do that again.

[MacDougall]

mmmmmmmmm @Ambray @MacDougall

please tell me who you would lynch today if you weren't currently top vote getters, and neither of you could vote for the other.

Ambray
Sloonei
DFaraday
Epignosis
Glorfindel
Long Con
novaselinenever
rabbit8
timmer
Kylemii
insertnamehere
Jackofhearts2005
nutella
DrWilgy

Sloonei

[Ambray]

Anyway - I'm going to bed.

I'm surprised by you Mac, but not suspicious of you. For someone who had given up you've certainly come out of the woodwork.

I stand by my LC vote. I'm surprised how quickly people seem to have dropped suspicions of him..

Glorf - it would be interesting to hear your views? Someone else who had seemingly given up so have given civ credit to.

linki - Man, mafia really has changed. How bizzare that the size of how much you type is suspicious. It's honestly quite frustrating.

You'll be wrong to lynch me - I'm sure that'll be picked about as a desperate attempt to dissuade, but it's 12:30am and I gotta be up in 5hours.

[Kylemii]

you're right mac that was bad formatting, i thought you were shouting at yourself

[Ambray]

For what it's worth if I am lynched - LA and Sloonei have given me the wiggins. No particular reason why, just a feeling to throw out there. Hurrah.

[MacDougall]

Yes well I am posting at my computer. Should I start posting selfies so people can see which device I am using to determine their expectations of my meta?

I never gave up. I just don't care to defend myself. Given some time and some energy I had a quick look through in an attempt to at least try to find baddies. I like how you are trying to cast dispersions on me subtly for doing what is expected of a civ.

[Ambray]

Yes well I am posting at my computer. Should I start posting selfies so people can see which device I am using to determine their expectations of my meta?

I never gave up. I just don't care to defend myself. Given some time and some energy I had a quick look through in an attempt to at least try to find baddies. I like how you are trying to cast dispersions on me subtly for doing what is expected of a civ.

I have clearly stated I have no suspicions of you. So I'm not trying to turn anything. I would say that you posting to go ahead and lynch you with no fight is, in my book, giving up.

Either way - I can't be defending myself further. Perhaps you can use some of that time and energy looking at others aswell?

[Kylemii]

mac when did you begin suspecting ambray?

[MacDougall]

What you say and what you do are two different things. You say you have no suspicions of me and then immediately comment "For someone who had given up you've certainly come out of the woodwork." This looks like a subtle dig at me for actually doing my civ duty for once in this game. I can appreciate that given you are the recipient it could just be defensiveness.

If everyone took what each other said at face value in a game of Mafia it would be a pointless stupid game. All the Mafia would just say they were civs and it'd be a game of chance. I am reading the intent behind your posts, so you should probably defend in that manner by explaining your intent to me rather than just pointing at the words you use that are quite irrelevant.

[MacDougall]

mac when did you begin suspecting ambray?

When I got online and I decided to actually read some back game and ISOs and saw glaring scumtells from the first ISO I read. I was reading the game very differently before about 30 minutes ago.

[Kylemii]

mac when did you begin suspecting ambray?

When I got online and I decided to actually read some back game and ISOs and saw glaring scumtells from the first ISO I read. I was reading the game very differently before about 30 minutes ago.

differently why?

[MacDougall]

mac when did you begin suspecting ambray?

When I got online and I decided to actually read some back game and ISOs and saw glaring scumtells from the first ISO I read. I was reading the game very differently before about 30 minutes ago.

differently why?

I was reading the game on my phone. Hadn't read one ISO. Was making snap replies that weren't thought through. The entire game was me reading out of context posts and trying to discern tone.

[Kylemii]

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] i remember you referencing a difference between phone mac and computer mac before, what game was that in? was that Fiddler?

[Epignosis]

nutella, can you summarize your vote for Ambray? I know you voted there Day 1.

[MacDougall]

@MacDougall i remember you referencing a difference between phone mac and computer mac before, what game was that in? was that Fiddler?

I dunno probably that and/or MK.

[nutella]

@Amby, why hasn't your wagon accelerated? What is keeping you mostly at the same pace of the others?

Because the player who is most likely to dictate the thread's activity is her teammate obviously.

Mmm spicy

[Kylemii]

For what it's worth if I am lynched - LA and Sloonei have given me the wiggins. No particular reason why, just a feeling to throw out there. Hurrah.

I can't check rn cus I'm at dinner, did Sofi mention either of Sloonei or Nutella before this post?

[nutella]

nutella, can you summarize your vote for Ambray? I know you voted there Day 1.

I didn't like the back-and-forth between her and Sloonei at the very beginning. I didn't like her blind joining of Kyle against Glorfindel despite not understanding context. Her defense of that later on was sort of okay but not stellar. She has said she is busy but I'm still not seeing civ motivations in her posts. Plus with Mac's recent assessments I'm kind of going back to the tinfoil that Sloonei is her teammate, but I suspect her independently of him as well.

[nutella]

For what it's worth if I am lynched - LA and Sloonei have given me the wiggins. No particular reason why, just a feeling to throw out there. Hurrah.

I can't check rn cus I'm at dinner, did Sofi mention either of Sloonei or Nutella before this post?

I can check in a minute but I know that I do not like this post. Especially after Mac insinuating she and Sloonei could be teammates. Tricky distancing ploy. Fake as hell.

[Kylemii]

most specifically sloonei, did she mention sloon?

[Epignosis]

nutella, can you summarize your vote for Ambray? I know you voted there Day 1.

I didn't like the back-and-forth between her and Sloonei at the very beginning. I didn't like her blind joining of Kyle against Glorfindel despite not understanding context. Her defense of that later on was sort of okay but not stellar. She has said she is busy but I'm still not seeing civ motivations in her posts. Plus with Mac's recent assessments I'm kind of going back to the tinfoil that Sloonei is her teammate, but I suspect her independently of him as well.

Do you think a bad Ambray have been informed by her teammates about that particular context?

[MacDougall]

nutella, can you summarize your vote for Ambray? I know you voted there Day 1.

I didn't like the back-and-forth between her and Sloonei at the very beginning. I didn't like her blind joining of Kyle against Glorfindel despite not understanding context. Her defense of that later on was sort of okay but not stellar. She has said she is busy but I'm still not seeing civ motivations in her posts. Plus with Mac's recent assessments I'm kind of going back to the tinfoil that Sloonei is her teammate, but I suspect her independently of him as well.

I actually suspect Sloonei independently of her as well. I think she has done more than enough to come into the sphere of Sloonei suspicion and he has given her nothing but benign pokes. He's either not coming at a scum teammate or he knows she is a civ ergo doesn't want to be a part to a mislynch.

On song civ Sloonei would be exhibiting some levels of suspicion imo.

[nutella]

nutella, can you summarize your vote for Ambray? I know you voted there Day 1.

I didn't like the back-and-forth between her and Sloonei at the very beginning. I didn't like her blind joining of Kyle against Glorfindel despite not understanding context. Her defense of that later on was sort of okay but not stellar. She has said she is busy but I'm still not seeing civ motivations in her posts. Plus with Mac's recent assessments I'm kind of going back to the tinfoil that Sloonei is her teammate, but I suspect her independently of him as well.

Do you think a bad Ambray have been informed by her teammates about that particular context?

Not necessarily. Could be the case I guess but it's not enough to sway me off voting for her at the moment.

[MacDougall]

nutella, can you summarize your vote for Ambray? I know you voted there Day 1.

I didn't like the back-and-forth between her and Sloonei at the very beginning. I didn't like her blind joining of Kyle against Glorfindel despite not understanding context. Her defense of that later on was sort of okay but not stellar. She has said she is busy but I'm still not seeing civ motivations in her posts. Plus with Mac's recent assessments I'm kind of going back to the tinfoil that Sloonei is her teammate, but I suspect her independently of him as well.

Do you think a bad Ambray have been informed by her teammates about that particular context?

Not necessarily. Could be the case I guess but it's not enough to sway me off voting for her at the moment.

Epignosis is speculating that she might have been supplied with context by teammates which would only add fuel to suspicion. Why would that sway you OFF voting for her? Or am I misunderstanding?

[nutella]

nutella, can you summarize your vote for Ambray? I know you voted there Day 1.

I didn't like the back-and-forth between her and Sloonei at the very beginning. I didn't like her blind joining of Kyle against Glorfindel despite not understanding context. Her defense of that later on was sort of okay but not stellar. She has said she is busy but I'm still not seeing civ motivations in her posts. Plus with Mac's recent assessments I'm kind of going back to the tinfoil that Sloonei is her teammate, but I suspect her independently of him as well.

Do you think a bad Ambray have been informed by her teammates about that particular context?

Not necessarily. Could be the case I guess but it's not enough to sway me off voting for her at the moment.

Epignosis is speculating that she might have been supplied with context by teammates which would only add fuel to suspicion. Why would that sway you OFF voting for her? Or am I misunderstanding?

No he's saying that since she never seemed to learn the context she probably doesn't have teammates

[Epignosis]

Missed this.

Sloonei, eye see you.

I'm not satisfied with a MacDougall lynch. Where should I vote?

How do you feel about DFaraday?

I don't have a reason to lynch him.

[Kylemii]

[mention]Sloonei[/mention] do you have any input on sofi v mac?

[Epignosis]

nutella, can you summarize your vote for Ambray? I know you voted there Day 1.

I didn't like the back-and-forth between her and Sloonei at the very beginning. I didn't like her blind joining of Kyle against Glorfindel despite not understanding context. Her defense of that later on was sort of okay but not stellar. She has said she is busy but I'm still not seeing civ motivations in her posts. Plus with Mac's recent assessments I'm kind of going back to the tinfoil that Sloonei is her teammate, but I suspect her independently of him as well.

Do you think a bad Ambray have been informed by her teammates about that particular context?

Not necessarily. Could be the case I guess but it's not enough to sway me off voting for her at the moment.

Epignosis is speculating that she might have been supplied with context by teammates which would only add fuel to suspicion. Why would that sway you OFF voting for her? Or am I misunderstanding?

No he's saying that since she never seemed to learn the context she probably doesn't have teammates

It was just something that occurred to me. I have hosted plenty of BTumbleweedSC chats to know better than to say it's a definite point in her favor.

[MacDougall]

@Sloonei do you have any input on sofi v mac?

I'd like to discourage this right now. Ambray/Sofi appears to have a firm civ read on me and reducing the options to Ambray vs. Mac at this point of the day is going to encourage Mafia/lazy players to just throw drive by votes on whichever of us they gut read worse with little explanation which is going to miss an opportunity. I prefer your line of thinking as to who else might be on the table, and I feel like Sloonei firmly should be for one.

[Kylemii]

Don't have much to contribute other than I'm still uneasy over the LC 'bandwagon' situation.

Sloonei's posts I don't like just as a vibe as I struggle to see whether they posts as a civ throwing mud and seeing what sticks or a baddie just stirring trouble. However, from how others have reacted this seems his typical game style so hard to judge.

Jack's posts are going to get old pretty quick. I'm not looking to lynch him at all right now, but I question whether this is normal behaviour for him? I think it would be pretty easy to get the ball rolling as an easy lynch. If he is civ, I don't really know how he's helping himself or others with his posts..

this is the only post i found where sofi mentions feeling negative about sloonei

[Kylemii]

@Sloonei do you have any input on sofi v mac?

I'd like to discourage this right now. Ambray/Sofi appears to have a firm civ read on me and reducing the options to Ambray vs. Mac at this point of the day is going to encourage Mafia/lazy players to just throw drive by votes on whichever of us they gut read worse with little explanation which is going to miss an opportunity. I prefer your line of thinking as to who else might be on the table, and I feel like Sloonei firmly should be for one.

that's actually not why I asked that, I noticed Sloonei is viewing the thread, I want to know his thoughts on this particular topic since he's at least tangentially involved

[Kylemii]

there's also like only 3 minutes left til the lynch drops

[MacDougall]

I'm not questioning your reasons, I am saying that it's posts like that that are going to make this phase about choosing between one of us, which naturally I don't like nor do I think is a good move in a game with a lot of people seeming to be low effort posting.

[MacDougall]

there's also like only 3 minutes left til the lynch drops

Holy shit you're right wtf.

[MacDougall]

Nothing about this feels like an end of day. Weird.

[Long Con]

I'll go along with Ambray over MacDougall because I'm neutral on Am, and Civ-reading Mac.

[MacDougall]

rabbit8, INH, Glorfindel and Wilgy haven't voted.

[Kylemii]

I voted sofi. I think the case against her is good enough and I think she's more likely to flip bad than mac

[Sloonei]

@Sloonei do you have any input on sofi v mac?

No. i'm just glancing at the thread every now and then. Don't have time to actually read things in depth.

[Marmot]

Many Meetings

There are too many meetings these days.

Nobody likes them. Dwarves hate them. Elves despise them. Men avoid them. Hobbits will attend if there is ale to be found.

Wizards keep to themselves. They hate meetings too.

Ambray chose the wrong time to voice her displeasure. Selecting the Fellowship of the Ring is the most important meeting Middle Earth has needed in eons.


Ambray has been lynched. She was...

Spoiler: show

Glóin

She was a vanilla civilian.

Night 2 has begun. You have until 20:00 EST to submit your night actions.

[Kylemii]

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] did you think the end of phase time was tomorrow, or later tonight?

......rip sofi

[DFaraday]

I thought this ended an hour later. RIP Ambray. I will catch up when I get home.

[nutella]

ah well. sorry

[MacDougall]

Bummer.

[Long Con]

Sadness.

[timmer]

Sperry for missing the vote I have to start leaving early votes in case, it seem

[MacDougall]

@MacDougall did you think the end of phase time was tomorrow, or later tonight?

......rip sofi

Later tonight.

[Epignosis]

Sadness.

Sperry for missing the vote I have to start leaving early votes in case, it seem