Mortal Kombat Mafia [ENDGAME]

[Epignosis]

Another thing is that I was worried this wouldn't be a balanced setup. The civilians had like four info roles, a BTSC pair, etc etc.

On the other hand, the mafia had a seemer, role cop and power thief (all in one role!).

I am pleased that it came down to the nubbins.

[Epignosis]

.... I wanna know why speedchuck basically gave us an invitation to get himself killed

I'll let him field that, but it was basically dumb. He'll agree.

[Kylemii]

I hated being silenced for that day phase. :[ I knew every single living player's role except for elohcin's, and I was 50-50 on Dave. Ironically, I was lynched cus I cancelled eloh's vote to try and ensure her lynch which put my Lynch opposition at 2 votes against my 3. Also ironically, my being lynched made my victory an absolute certainty since it eliminated any potentiality for an endgame that didn't include one of my thralls. B)

I was trying to win with civs for most of the game except for one crucial moment... I floated reptile the night I got killed thinking that the extra vote would tip the scales and bring the game to it's earliest possible ending with the most living players. Reptile was Simon though and I guess he didn't use the extra vote??? and got lynched anyways.

I was also going to support the mafia after the um... The mislynch on Made, too. I figured then at that point that the mafia was the closest faction to victory and I needed to end the game asap to avoid the wrong casualties taking place, I even sent a pm to remove elohcin from the poll and give baraka the ermac sock, though I ended up redacting it and sending a corrected version after I was inspired by what I interpreted as speedchuck's impassioned speech about never giving up. It was when I realized that Jax was still alive and I could gauranteed another living horcrux that I realized that I'd basically won already and I could fuck around and get people to draw dogs for me.

Mafia did really well. Even from the sidelines and knowing everything I did I was certain at the end that Dave was the actual final mafia. This was a good game and also probably my favorite role of all time. Maybe second to the Big Bad Wolf.

[Kylemii]

Quin wasn't Nightwolf? :0

[nutella]

Totally knew Glorf was behind the Ermac sock early on (so wait was there someone else behind it each time you picked someone?) and then later (when we killed you) we found out you were Ermac and I was confused and it took until you said that you weren't actually behind the sock for me to get that lol

Also I knew Quin was Kung Lao from early-- night 2 I guess is when I stole his power and learned it was a tiebreak. It's too bad I died before I got to use that again bc it would have helped a lot having access to that ability later in the game

[lapluie]

I got picked to use Ermac when we voted speedchuck to get lynched

[Kylemii]

I'm glad Kyle's lynch didn't prevent him from winning. Both of us were playing as true to the indy spirit as we could, I think. Just having a good time.

my death technically helped me win though apparently I wasn't as assured of victory as I thought since quin wasn't who I thought he was. *_*

[Kylemii]

That makes sense.

Kylemii absolutely loved being Ermac.

My favorite thing was how I wanted Ermac's sock account to look imposing and scary, and I forgot to change the avatar, so it was a cat in a sweater when Glorfindel used it.

the cat avi was better imo.....

[Epignosis]

Locations


Prologue: In what order shall you visit the Realms?
That with the most votes is first, followed by that with the second, etc. After all realms are visited, the remainder of the phases occur in Earthrealm.

Earthrealm
The Day proceeds without incident.

Netherrealm
The dead can speak.

Outworld
The shadows of Outworld will hide the identity of the lynch victim until the end of the next Day phase.

Chaosrealm
Everyone receives a unique insanification.

Orderrealm
Lynch votes the next Day cannot be manipulated at all.

Edenia
The last Night killed person by Outworld comes back to life.

[MacDougall]

Well done winners.

[Kylemii]

Outworld
The shadows of Outworld will hide the identity of the lynch victim until the end of the next Day phase.

did I only get to know his role on time because of my power? I thought maybe it was cus I was an outworlder role, I assumed Jack was one of the civ ones and that was how he seemed to know. (though I was mostly just glad to have him off my back)

Edenia
The last Night killed person by Outworld comes back to life.

is this what happened to me?

[Epignosis]

Outworld
The shadows of Outworld will hide the identity of the lynch victim until the end of the next Day phase.

did I only get to know his role on time because of my power? I thought maybe it was cus I was an outworlder role, I assumed Jack was one of the civ ones and that was how he seemed to know. (though I was mostly just glad to have him off my back)

Edenia
The last Night killed person by Outworld comes back to life.

is this what happened to me?

Correct on both counts.

[Kylemii]

anyways i just won a full sized mafia game after getting both night killed and lynched so i'm feeling pretty good about that

[speedchuck]

Thanks mafia, especially Elohcin, for taking my word for it when I told you to kill me.

I made that call.

Figured, eh, what the hell, right?

[Quin]

couldnt civs have lost like a day earlier because i had to participate yesterday and now i feel responsible

i still called it though

[speedchuck]

.... I wanna know why speedchuck basically gave us an invitation to get himself killed

Okay. It was dumb.

We were in a position to force JJJ to vote with us. I had a vote cancel to give us an edge, and Quin was gone. With that math, we had 2 active town, 2 active 3P players, and 2 scum. If I got rid of one of town's votes and got JJJ to work with us, it'd be one towny and 1 3P against us three. EZ.

And I thought Eloh was going to get lynched. This was my last chance to mathematically overcome.

Unfortunately, my kill was redirected, which destroyed my vote cancel.
JJJ was silenced, which removed that vote.
Quin came back.

Everything went wrong, and I did the plan anyway.

But it was hella fun, boys. And somehow Eloh brought us home a win anyway. I hope my confusion helped, but it honestly just made everything worse, I think. Still proud though. That was fun.

TL;DR - I was trying to convince JJJ to vote with us. Everything I said was true, for the most part. But we could win if JJJ voted with us. Everything that could go wrong did, thanks to townie roles. GG town. We came through with the skin of our teeth.

[Quin]

but shouldn't there have technically been another day phase now with me, eloh, 3j and dave? my lynch survival was still intact so i thought maybe i could have worked with that

[speedchuck]

but shouldn't there have technically been another day phase now with me, eloh, 3j and dave? my lynch survival was still intact so i thought maybe i could have worked with that

JJJ would have voted against you.

Mafia had a nightkill.

Dave was AFK.

[speedchuck]

Thanks for the game, Epi.

Sorry to my teammates for doing a Badman Gambit.

[Quin]

Quin wasn't Nightwolf? :0

and i was hinting all over the thread too smh

[lapluie]

Quin you were so sus lol

[speedchuck]

Quin you were so sus lol

Psh. I had a townread on Quin all game

[Kylemii]

I really did want a civvie win at least like 80% of the time, if the mafia had won while I'd been alive I would have felt bad about it. I think I did my best.

[mention]lapluie[/mention] why were you so convinced of Eloh's innocence? I assumed you checked her or something.

[lapluie]

[mention]Kylemii[/mention] Okay yeah here's what went down.

I checked eloh first & first two letters came up as A & L

I didn't think much of it, waited another night phase to check again.. & came up as I & E

I looked through all the remaining roles & couldn't place my finger on the ones elochin old possibly be, mileena was my first top skeptical role & I had discussed this with nova how she could be mileena .. but unfortunately I suck at this game & figured she couldn't be mileena cause she didn't get lynched the other day & had this ideology of "mafias can't use actions on themselves it must've been the other mafia members acting on it" kinda thing to make her look bad.
Disregard mileena for that reason, liu kang was the only remaining role with those letters so I had a confident {fail} read on her being liu kang.

but gosh damn she was good, v deceiving the day she had confusions about why she was mislynched. I began to believe her actually.

[lapluie]

Plus to add on that, it's so difficult reading everyone here, given that I've never played with any of you, I couldn't tell if anything was genuinely trustworthy or not, my actual top reads was kyle & speedchuck until the very end game soooo the only person I gave 100% confidence was nova because team.

[Kylemii]

It's significant because we are trying to not lynch town.

What's your alignment?

chaotic good

this was maybe the most clever thing i've ever said in my entire goddamn life

[Marmot]

We won?

We had 3 teammates lynched in a 2-day span? How often does that happen lol.

That nutella-Simon lynch really blew up in my face.

[speedchuck]

@Kylemii Okay yeah here's what went down.

I checked eloh first & first two letters came up as A & L

I didn't think much of it, waited another night phase to check again.. & came up as I & E

I looked through all the remaining roles & couldn't place my finger on the ones elochin old possibly be, mileena was my first top skeptical role & I had discussed this with nova how she could be mileena .. but unfortunately I suck at this game & figured she couldn't be mileena cause she didn't get lynched the other day & had this ideology of "mafias can't use actions on themselves it must've been the other mafia members acting on it" kinda thing to make her look bad.
Disregard mileena for that reason, liu kang was the only remaining role with those letters so I had a confident {fail} read on her being liu kang.

but gosh damn she was good, v deceiving the day she had confusions about why she was mislynched. I began to believe her actually.

I actually have no idea why the lynch was redirected from Elohcin. Who did that?

It wasn't her, and it wasn't another mafia member.

[lapluie]

Wait to clarify in checking eloh... it was only during near game ending when mac was stil alive I believe, first person I checked was speedchuck & only once

[Kylemii]

but gosh damn she was good, v deceiving the day she had confusions about why she was mislynched. I began to believe her actually.

to be fair, eloh did a really amazing job at avoiding being lynched considering how many people suspected her and how much raw evidence there was against her, had I been alive and not silenced I might have voted to lynch Dave.

I still don't understand what happened with Wilgy? did that get explained yet.

[lapluie]

but gosh damn she was good, v deceiving the day she had confusions about why she was mislynched. I began to believe her actually.

to be fair, eloh did a really amazing job at avoiding being lynched considering how many people suspected her and how much raw evidence there was against her, had I been alive and not silenced I might have voted to lynch Dave.

I still don't understand what happened with Wilgy? did that get explained yet.

There's a lot of unanswered stuff that needs questioning. . its kind of odd how wilgy did die when he wasn't even on the poll, but if I look back to read the roles it might be been some secret power to preform this action. Either way I knew Dave wasn't even mafia. It made no sense. I still can't beleive how quin voted for Dave regardless after thinking Elohcin was bad.. he still didn't vote her..

[lapluie]

This is probably the best mafia game I've played btw, also thanks for keeping me alive guys. . idk why you did but it was a great mafia game experience

[Quin]

Quin you were so sus lol

Strongly town read by JOH Day 1. I'd say I broke even.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Basically every read I made after claiming independent was b/s in some way or another unless my two-letter checks gave me a reason.

I had G-O on Marmot with only two possibilities: Kung Lao and Goro. I asked a bunch of questions about ties to indicate if me might be the former and then pursued the lynch.

I think I had four people at one point whose letters were compatible with Sonya Blade. That drove me nuts. Thankfully I narrowed it down to lapluie when her S-O only fit that or Sub-Zero.

For a while I felt good that Long Con was Jax. He looked like he was soft-claiming it, and if so he did well because I bought it. I specifically made him the only "blue" name in a rainbow list so the mafia team would kill him. A bit later when I found myself silenced and vote-blocked I was most displeased -- particularly given that it lined up with speedchuck's gambit.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I'm surprised nobody lynched Eloh

[nutella]

The Wilgy lynch would have been Kitana's secret ability (Wilgy was the one removed from the poll and Kitana could switch the lynch to that person)

[Jackofhearts2005]

Quin you were so sus lol

Strongly town read by JOH Day 1. I'd say I broke even.

I wasn't sure why Lap thought you were bad in the end.

GG, [mention]Elohcin[/mention] . I thought you were screwed for sure but you pulled things off.

I respect Speed's gambit. Miscalculated, maybe, but I'd have likely done the same thing in his position, less outting myself the night before (even though nobody but Kyle picked up on it). Eloh was likely going to go down. The town thought the mafia had 2 extra votes. Of the trusted players, several had voiced uneasiness about Speed. Good chance he'd have been lynched poe.

[mention]Glorfindel[/mention] [mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention]
Well played saving Lap and bagging Nutella, respectively, gents.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Oh and [mention]Epignosis[/mention] damn fun game. Nice setup and lots of fun roles and events. Glad it came down to the wire.

[Quin]

but gosh damn she was good, v deceiving the day she had confusions about why she was mislynched. I began to believe her actually.

to be fair, eloh did a really amazing job at avoiding being lynched considering how many people suspected her and how much raw evidence there was against her, had I been alive and not silenced I might have voted to lynch Dave.

I still don't understand what happened with Wilgy? did that get explained yet.

There's a lot of unanswered stuff that needs questioning. . its kind of odd how wilgy did die when he wasn't even on the poll, but if I look back to read the roles it might be been some secret power to preform this action. Either way I knew Dave wasn't even mafia. It made no sense. I still can't beleive how quin voted for Dave regardless after thinking Elohcin was bad.. he still didn't vote her..

lapluie: Quin is bad news (repeated over something like 15 posts)
Quin: Elohcin is bad
lapluie: ok let's lynch elohcin then

Do you see the problem?

[Kylemii]

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention], I followed your lead on the marmot lynch even though I probably shouldn't have... I tracked him using Dunya's power(I think?) and saw you targeted marmot, technically at that point it would have been in my best interest to cause as many mis-lynches as possible, but I had just gotten murdered so i wanted to lynch the mafia instead.

I should have been actively working against you more than I did. My wincon incentivized making the game end with the most players alive as possible while yours incentivized doing the opposite. collecting your soul was vital though. the mafia and town were unlikely to ever be in a situation where killing you would be a good choice. that's why I campaigned so hard for keeping you around.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Glorfindel drawing the role that detects lies is the greatest thing.

[MacDougall]

Epi did any of my bus driver actions have any affect at all?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

JaggedJimmyJay, I followed your lead on the marmot lynch even though I probably shouldn't have... I tracked him using Dunya's power(I think?) and saw you targeted marmot, technically at that point it would have been in my best interest to cause as many mis-lynches as possible, but I had just gotten murdered so i wanted to lynch the mafia instead.

I should have been actively working against you more than I did. My wincon incentivized making the game end with the most players alive as possible while yours incentivized doing the opposite. collecting your soul was vital though. the mafia and town were unlikely to ever be in a situation where killing you would be a good choice. that's why I campaigned so hard for keeping you around.

It's fortunate for me that my attempt to lynch Elohcin via the Ermac sock ended up failing.

[Kylemii]

was I blocked on night 3 or did tony just ignore my gift

[TonyStarkPrime]

was I blocked on night 3 or did tony just ignore my gift

I didn’t get anything

[TonyStarkPrime]

We won?

We had 3 teammates lynched in a 2-day span? How often does that happen lol.

That nutella-Simon lynch really blew up in my face.

I did a double take on seeing Nutella’s flip before googling the mafia roles and figuring out what it was. But that’s kind of hard to communicate when you’re dead. I figured Mafia was out after that but it was exciting seeing that come down to the wire.

Overall, great game. The roles were well designed and the locations dynamic made for a fun second day at least. I wish all days were that second day. No I don’t.

Oh! I have one question. Why did some people not get cursed?

[Sloonei]

Omg yessssss


Lmao I was mafia all along ya suckers


Amazing game. Major props to Eloh for sticking it out through those last couple suuuper stressful days. Really thought we wouldn't make it there but she pulled through. And speed, awesome job. Also thanks Jay for your funky shenanigans.


Thanks Epi I loved this game and I loved tricking everyone

I knew you were bad. That was my role, jerk.

[lapluie]

[mention]Quin[/mention]
how laughable, yeah but you weren't really trying to help.. or anything. . So I had my reasoning

[JaggedJimmyJay]

lapluie, in your first game ever on this website you made over 500 posts and weren't afraid at any juncture to provide your honest reads. You're off to a great start.

[Quin]

@Quin
how laughable, yeah but you weren't really trying to help.. or anything. . So I had my reasoning

That's what happens when you don't get replaced when you ask for it (no blame being laid jsyk) and are therefore forced to fit mafia into a schedule mafia doesn't fit into.