[ENDGAME] - The Fellowship of the Ring Mafia (LoTR I)

[Epignosis]

Hmm. Interesting kill choice.

RIP Mac

Did you do it?

[insertnamehere]

Hmm. Interesting kill choice.

RIP Mac

Did you do it?

Nope. Did you?

[Epignosis]

Hmm. Interesting kill choice.

RIP Mac

Did you do it?

Nope. Did you?

No.

[insertnamehere]

Hmm. Interesting kill choice.

RIP Mac

Did you do it?

Nope. Did you?

No.

That's exactly what Mac's killer would say.

Do you have an alibi?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Why kill Mac? Even if he wasn't a suspect, he wasn't doing a lot to help the town. He even said himself he wasn't playing s very good game.

It's possible Frodo has some sort of misdirection power.

[Epignosis]

Hmm. Interesting kill choice.

RIP Mac

Did you do it?

Nope. Did you?

No.

That's exactly what Mac's killer would say.

Do you have an alibi?

If I told you I was fucking the midget from Twin Peaks, would you believe me?

[Epignosis]

Why kill Mac? Even if he wasn't a suspect, he wasn't doing a lot to help the town. He even said himself he wasn't playing s very good game.

It's possible Frodo has some sort of misdirection power.

Killing MacDougall makes sense.

speedchuck isn't bad.

Mafia wants to add fuel to the fire.

[insertnamehere]

Hmm. Interesting kill choice.

RIP Mac

Did you do it?

Nope. Did you?

No.

That's exactly what Mac's killer would say.

Do you have an alibi?

If I told you I was fucking the midget from Twin Peaks, would you believe me?

No, but I'd believe you if you told me you were fucking the Evolution of the Arm.

[Epignosis]

Dr.Wilgy has my vote.

[Epignosis]

Okay.

Nobody said shit today.

Are we arguing in Day 0 again? Back in my day we just lynched Marmot friend day one and called it good.

Pointless.

THEY'RE

Pointless.

TAKING

Pointless.

THE

Pointless.

HOBBITS

Pointless.

TO

Pointless.

ISENGARD

Pointless.

So I suddenly am working non stop over the next couple days, quite literally so won't be likely around to vote tomorrow.

In all the games I ever played of mafia I only played 1 that allowed role claiming and I still find it hard to wrap my head around it being an ok thing to do nowadays and I really can't say that I like it as a an allowance, but thems the kicks.

I remember yesterday being pinged by somebody, but I honestly do not have the energy in me right now to go back and reread, even just 2 pages worth. xD

I am getting civvie vibes from Kyle so far and I agree with his assessment of the role claiming situation - I am surprised at the amount of people disagreeing with him and calling him mafia for it...
I'm going to follow his lead and vote glorfindel, just cause.

Sorry to be so useless so early in the game.

Ambray is baaaaaaaaaad. Sad day.

This is something. An incorrect something, but something.

Amby's post was too big and felt fake. It doesn't feel like a post that would be made day 1... meaning it's forced.

This is, if anything, a reason. If anything, it's a relevant post.

How bout we lynch Rico?

Pointless.

How bout we lynch Rico?

why not ambray?

Wasn't serious. Still after Amby.

Clearly. Pointless.

How bout we lynch Rico?

why not ambray?

Wasn't serious. Still after Amby.

Do you have a secondary suspect?

Nah.

He doesn't have any other suspects.

So I am ignoring Jack because his emoji posts are dumb.

Sloonei your posts are tldr.

Let's lynch Wilgy.

Hey cutie. Been thinking bout you lot lately. Them strong legs of yours...

Y'know I think we should do brunch soon.

Pointless.

Kill it.

Amby must die.

Pointless.

@Amby, why hasn't your wagon accelerated? What is keeping you mostly at the same pace of the others?

This is something. Ambray was a civilian. If Wilgy is on a team with people who aren't voting, this would amuse him.

It doesn't have to be some magical voodoo reason my new friend that I want to maim.

Spoiler: show

So I suddenly am working non stop over the next couple days, quite literally so won't be likely around to vote tomorrow.

In all the games I ever played of mafia I only played 1 that allowed role claiming and I still find it hard to wrap my head around it being an ok thing to do nowadays and I really can't say that I like it as a an allowance, but thems the kicks.

I remember yesterday being pinged by somebody, but I honestly do not have the energy in me right now to go back and reread, even just 2 pages worth. xD

I am getting civvie vibes from Kyle so far and I agree with his assessment of the role claiming situation - I am surprised at the amount of people disagreeing with him and calling him mafia for it...
I'm going to follow his lead and vote glorfindel, just cause.

Sorry to be so useless so early in the game.

Ambray is baaaaaaaaaad. Sad day.

Amby's post was too big and felt fake. It doesn't feel like a post that would be made day 1... meaning it's forced.

How bout we lynch Rico?

why not ambray?

Wasn't serious. Still after Amby.

Kill it.

Amby must die.

wilgy has done one thing in this game, and that's call for Ambray's lynch. He's not building a case on her. He's just calling her bad. I'm not saying I necessarily disagree with the read, but given that this is his only content, I want more. This is uninspiring, and not really the chaos wilgy we've seen in the past. I could vote for this wilgy.

wilgy, say something else please and thanks.

Soon.

It's been many days since this post. Nothing has come.

Hm... Amby wasn't bad. Whoops.

Pointless.

Yahaha! You found me!

Also, resident Elongated Musketeer of Mars fills me with excite.

Yahaha! You found me!

Also, resident Elongated Musketeer of Mars fills me with excite.

Pretty much.

Hazlenut do you not like me?

I thought we could be bffs...

DrWilgy asked nutella why she didn't like him.

nutella died.

HAZLENUUUUUUUUUUT

A reaction.

ITS GONNA TAKE ME ALOT TO TAKE ME AWAAAAY FROM YOUUUU

"Africa"

Lynch DrWilgy.

[timmer]

forgive my absence guys I took a nasty head shot in a sparring match and I think I'm concussed. I cannot concentrate on anything at all so I've asked to be replaced. Sorry

[speedchuck]

Ooh, sorry to hear that Timmer. Hope you feel better!

(Out of curiosity, what kind of martial arts were you partaking in?)

[speedchuck]

I've been gone all day, but my tomorrow afternoon will be completely free. I'll figure things out about Wilgy then.

Though yeah, he usually at least does something.

[nutella]

oof that's awful timmer, hope you heal soon!

[Jackofhearts2005]

[mention]Epignosis[/mention]

Didn't you just host a game where Wilgy was completely unhelpful and yet he was town as can be?

I'm not really sure how to deal with Wilgy, generally, when he's not super invested.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Without thinking about it too much rainbow.

Glorfindel
insertnamehere
speedchuck
Epignosis
rabbit8
DrWilgy
DFaraday
timmer
Long Con

[Marmot]

Effective immediately, juliets has replaced DFaraday.

[juliets]

Hello everyone, I have not read any of this game and I'm not sure how much I'm going to go back versus jumping right in. Can I ask what suspicions exist of me as I start out? Looks like Jack has some from his post above.

[DrWilgy]

Okay.

Nobody said shit today.

Are we arguing in Day 0 again? Back in my day we just lynched Marmot friend day one and called it good.

Pointless.

THEY'RE

Pointless.

TAKING

Pointless.

THE

Pointless.

HOBBITS

Pointless.

TO

Pointless.

ISENGARD

Pointless.

So I suddenly am working non stop over the next couple days, quite literally so won't be likely around to vote tomorrow.

In all the games I ever played of mafia I only played 1 that allowed role claiming and I still find it hard to wrap my head around it being an ok thing to do nowadays and I really can't say that I like it as a an allowance, but thems the kicks.

I remember yesterday being pinged by somebody, but I honestly do not have the energy in me right now to go back and reread, even just 2 pages worth. xD

I am getting civvie vibes from Kyle so far and I agree with his assessment of the role claiming situation - I am surprised at the amount of people disagreeing with him and calling him mafia for it...
I'm going to follow his lead and vote glorfindel, just cause.

Sorry to be so useless so early in the game.

Ambray is baaaaaaaaaad. Sad day.

This is something. An incorrect something, but something.

Amby's post was too big and felt fake. It doesn't feel like a post that would be made day 1... meaning it's forced.

This is, if anything, a reason. If anything, it's a relevant post.

How bout we lynch Rico?

Pointless.

How bout we lynch Rico?

why not ambray?

Wasn't serious. Still after Amby.

Clearly. Pointless.

How bout we lynch Rico?

why not ambray?

Wasn't serious. Still after Amby.

Do you have a secondary suspect?

Nah.

He doesn't have any other suspects.

So I am ignoring Jack because his emoji posts are dumb.

Sloonei your posts are tldr.

Let's lynch Wilgy.

Hey cutie. Been thinking bout you lot lately. Them strong legs of yours...

Y'know I think we should do brunch soon.

Pointless.

Kill it.

Amby must die.

Pointless.

@Amby, why hasn't your wagon accelerated? What is keeping you mostly at the same pace of the others?

This is something. Ambray was a civilian. If Wilgy is on a team with people who aren't voting, this would amuse him.

It doesn't have to be some magical voodoo reason my new friend that I want to maim.

Spoiler: show

So I suddenly am working non stop over the next couple days, quite literally so won't be likely around to vote tomorrow.

In all the games I ever played of mafia I only played 1 that allowed role claiming and I still find it hard to wrap my head around it being an ok thing to do nowadays and I really can't say that I like it as a an allowance, but thems the kicks.

I remember yesterday being pinged by somebody, but I honestly do not have the energy in me right now to go back and reread, even just 2 pages worth. xD

I am getting civvie vibes from Kyle so far and I agree with his assessment of the role claiming situation - I am surprised at the amount of people disagreeing with him and calling him mafia for it...
I'm going to follow his lead and vote glorfindel, just cause.

Sorry to be so useless so early in the game.

Ambray is baaaaaaaaaad. Sad day.

Amby's post was too big and felt fake. It doesn't feel like a post that would be made day 1... meaning it's forced.

How bout we lynch Rico?

why not ambray?

Wasn't serious. Still after Amby.

Kill it.

Amby must die.

wilgy has done one thing in this game, and that's call for Ambray's lynch. He's not building a case on her. He's just calling her bad. I'm not saying I necessarily disagree with the read, but given that this is his only content, I want more. This is uninspiring, and not really the chaos wilgy we've seen in the past. I could vote for this wilgy.

wilgy, say something else please and thanks.

Soon.

It's been many days since this post. Nothing has come.

Hm... Amby wasn't bad. Whoops.

Pointless.

Yahaha! You found me!

Also, resident Elongated Musketeer of Mars fills me with excite.

Yahaha! You found me!

Also, resident Elongated Musketeer of Mars fills me with excite.

Pretty much.

Hazlenut do you not like me?

I thought we could be bffs...

DrWilgy asked nutella why she didn't like him.

nutella died.

HAZLENUUUUUUUUUUT

A reaction.

ITS GONNA TAKE ME ALOT TO TAKE ME AWAAAAY FROM YOUUUU

"Africa"

Lynch DrWilgy.

[juliets]

Dr. Wilgy it would be helpful if you said something more specific than just "wrong". What is your side of the story regarding the things Epi mentioned?

[juliets]

oh my gosh, DF only had 8 posts. Is that why you have him so low on your list Jack? Or anyone else that suspects him?

[DrWilgy]

Dr. Wilgy it would be helpful if you said something more specific than just "wrong". What is your side of the story regarding the things Epi mentioned?

I'm just here to hang out and stuff, and to take the hobbits to isengard.

[juliets]

Dr. Wilgy, and everyone else, who do you suspect? I've decided I'm going to read iso's to try and catch up. Other than Wilgy, does anyone have any recommendations? Anything else you think I shouldn't overlook in my catchup (besides who has died and who they were of course)?

[DrWilgy]

Dr. Wilgy, and everyone else, who do you suspect? I've decided I'm going to read iso's to try and catch up. Other than Wilgy, does anyone have any recommendations? Anything else you think I shouldn't overlook in my catchup (besides who has died and who they were of course)?

Idk dude.

I fell off the wagon when I was wrong about Amby.

Oh well. Imma find out who's bad after I drive home I guess.

[juliets]

I just read through Mac to see if I could get an idea of why he was killed. It looks like he was under suspicion so it strikes me as an odd kill. He was suspicious of Sloonei/speedchuck and at the very end he called Jack bad. The speedchuck suspicion seemed the strongest but I have to wonder if he was killed to set speed up. I will need to read Sloonei and speed and hope that helps me determine if thats true or not. I see by reading up thats what Epi thinks has happened.

On Wilgy, in the game I just played I was jumped on because I questioned Wilgy's being bad after he made a bizarro non game related post. People said I should know Wilgy always makes these kind of pointless posts and it's not alignment indicative. Epi, I don't disagree with your points but what do you think about the thought that "he's always this way (making pointless posts)".

[juliets]

Where is everyone? I need some people to talk to about what's going on in this game. I jus read speedchuck and most of Sloonei (there were a few of sloonei's posts that made my eyes glaze over so I'll have to revisit them later) and I didn't see anything I would consider a mafia tell in either. So, at this point, I have to consider the Mac kill more of a set-up. What do the rest of you think? I will read Glorfindel and Long Con next because they voted for speed and hopefully I can see where my thinking might be wrong.

[juliets]

Wait, no, that speedchuck vote looks tasty! Change my vote to speedchuck.

Any particular reason for that?

Long Con, I didn't see an answer to this question and it has become important for my ability to analyze what the suspicion of speed/sloonei is all about. Could you be more specific about why you changed your vote to him?

I think I might quit for awhile and wait until other people join the thread.

[Epignosis]

@Epignosis

Didn't you just host a game where Wilgy was completely unhelpful and yet he was town as can be?

I'm not really sure how to deal with Wilgy, generally, when he's not super invested.

I hosted one recently where Wilgy was bad and he had two posts, neither of which said anything.

Like you, I don't know what to make of him. I cast my vote to have somewhere to put it. I have some time today to dig into other people, but Wilgy is where my vote is staying if I don't unearth something I like better.

[Glorfindel]

Where is everyone? I need some people to talk to about what's going on in this game. I jus read speedchuck and most of Sloonei (there were a few of sloonei's posts that made my eyes glaze over so I'll have to revisit them later) and I didn't see anything I would consider a mafia tell in either. So, at this point, I have to consider the Mac kill more of a set-up. What do the rest of you think? I will read Glorfindel and Long Con next because they voted for speed and hopefully I can see where my thinking might be wrong.

Less than four hours to go before EoD and only one vote cast?

And yeah, I’m voting Chuckles again - I don’t trust the guy as far as I could throw him.

[Jackofhearts2005]

oh my gosh, DF only had 8 posts. Is that why you have him so low on your list Jack? Or anyone else that suspects him?

He's done little to make me think he's town.

[Epignosis]

I just read through Mac to see if I could get an idea of why he was killed. It looks like he was under suspicion so it strikes me as an odd kill. He was suspicious of Sloonei/speedchuck and at the very end he called Jack bad. The speedchuck suspicion seemed the strongest but I have to wonder if he was killed to set speed up. I will need to read Sloonei and speed and hope that helps me determine if thats true or not. I see by reading up thats what Epi thinks has happened.

On Wilgy, in the game I just played I was jumped on because I questioned Wilgy's being bad after he made a bizarro non game related post. People said I should know Wilgy always makes these kind of pointless posts and it's not alignment indicative. Epi, I don't disagree with your points but what do you think about the thought that "he's always this way (making pointless posts)".

If he's always that way, then he can be bad and be that way. That in itself doesn't move the needle one way or another for me.

Hazlenut do you not like me?

I thought we could be bffs...

Wilgy said this right before nutella died. It sounds ominous to me, given that nutella was killed. And then we get Wilgy's best Brando impersonation:

HAZLENUUUUUUUUUUT

MacDougall was in a three-way tie with Kylemii and speedchuck.

Kylemii
3
23%
Voters: insertnamehere, speedchuck, timmer

Macdougall
3
23%
Voters: Epignosis, rabbit8, Jackofhearts2005

speedchuck
3
23%
Voters: MacDougall, Glorfindel, Long Con

If all three people in the tie are civilians, then mafia didn't have to lift a ringed finger- they would be pleased however this worked out.

DrWilgy didn't vote.

Kylemii was lynched.

Tell me: If you were bad, given the poll above, would you kill MacDougall?

Would you ask the person you are about to murder if she doesn't like you, and tell her that you thought you could be best friend forever?

I believe Wilgy would. It fits into his zany, mad scientist approach.

[juliets]

I missed this post by Mac until I saw it in rabbit's iso. Looks like some additional people that might have had reason to kill him, though I am not one of them (DFaraday). I've already looked at Wilgy but will also look at timmer.

Speedchuck
DFaraday
DrWilgy
Timmer

Scum legacy.

I don't know, guy. I'm thinking I might switch my vote from you to Kyle? What do you think of that?

[juliets]

I just read through Mac to see if I could get an idea of why he was killed. It looks like he was under suspicion so it strikes me as an odd kill. He was suspicious of Sloonei/speedchuck and at the very end he called Jack bad. The speedchuck suspicion seemed the strongest but I have to wonder if he was killed to set speed up. I will need to read Sloonei and speed and hope that helps me determine if thats true or not. I see by reading up thats what Epi thinks has happened.

On Wilgy, in the game I just played I was jumped on because I questioned Wilgy's being bad after he made a bizarro non game related post. People said I should know Wilgy always makes these kind of pointless posts and it's not alignment indicative. Epi, I don't disagree with your points but what do you think about the thought that "he's always this way (making pointless posts)".

If he's always that way, then he can be bad and be that way. That in itself doesn't move the needle one way or another for me.

Hazlenut do you not like me?

I thought we could be bffs...

Wilgy said this right before nutella died. It sounds ominous to me, given that nutella was killed. And then we get Wilgy's best Brando impersonation:

HAZLENUUUUUUUUUUT

MacDougall was in a three-way tie with Kylemii and speedchuck.

Kylemii
3
23%
Voters: insertnamehere, speedchuck, timmer

Macdougall
3
23%
Voters: Epignosis, rabbit8, Jackofhearts2005

speedchuck
3
23%
Voters: MacDougall, Glorfindel, Long Con

If all three people in the tie are civilians, then mafia didn't have to lift a ringed finger- they would be pleased however this worked out.

DrWilgy didn't vote.

Kylemii was lynched.

Tell me: If you were bad, given the poll above, would you kill MacDougall?

Would you ask the person you are about to murder if she doesn't like you, and tell her that you thought you could be best friend forever?

I believe Wilgy would. It fits into his zany, mad scientist approach.

Thanks for the explanation Epi. That would indeed fit Wilgy's zany approach.

[juliets]

Where is everyone? I need some people to talk to about what's going on in this game. I jus read speedchuck and most of Sloonei (there were a few of sloonei's posts that made my eyes glaze over so I'll have to revisit them later) and I didn't see anything I would consider a mafia tell in either. So, at this point, I have to consider the Mac kill more of a set-up. What do the rest of you think? I will read Glorfindel and Long Con next because they voted for speed and hopefully I can see where my thinking might be wrong.

Less than four hours to go before EoD and only one vote cast?

And yeah, I’m voting Chuckles again - I don’t trust the guy as far as I could throw him.

Glorfindel, when I read your posts you didn't seem to be suspicious of sloonei until he refused to leave a legacy post and it seems you voted him for that reason. Is there more that you see in retrospect? Or has speed chuck done something that adds to the reason you suspected sloonei?

[juliets]

oh my gosh, DF only had 8 posts. Is that why you have him so low on your list Jack? Or anyone else that suspects him?

He's done little to make me think he's town.

Ok thanks.

[Long Con]

Wait, no, that speedchuck vote looks tasty! Change my vote to speedchuck.

Any particular reason for that?

Long Con, I didn't see an answer to this question and it has become important for my ability to analyze what the suspicion of speed/sloonei is all about. Could you be more specific about why you changed your vote to him?

Well, here's my whole post, which speechuck cut in half:

Wait, no, that speedchuck vote looks tasty! Change my vote to speedchuck.

Just... Mac is on speedchuck, and if he wants Kyle lynched then he can do it himself at this point.

I originally broke the tie between Mac and Kyle, but then I saw Mac was solo-voting speedchuck. Figuring that MAc would come back and vote Kyle to save himself, I didn't think my vote was the most effective there. So I voted speedchuck alongside Mac and then Glorfindel triple-tied it. Short answer: flailing.

[speedchuck]

MacDougall was in a three-way tie with Kylemii and speedchuck.

Kylemii
3
23%
Voters: insertnamehere, speedchuck, timmer

Macdougall
3
23%
Voters: Epignosis, rabbit8, Jackofhearts2005

speedchuck
3
23%
Voters: MacDougall, Glorfindel, Long Con

If all three people in the tie are civilians, then mafia didn't have to lift a ringed finger- they would be pleased however this worked out.

DrWilgy didn't vote.

Kylemii was lynched.

Tell me: If you were bad, given the poll above, would you kill MacDougall?

Would you ask the person you are about to murder if she doesn't like you, and tell her that you thought you could be best friend forever?

I believe Wilgy would. It fits into his zany, mad scientist approach.

Thanks for the explanation Epi. That would indeed fit Wilgy's zany approach.

Nightkill analysis is sketchy enough already without basing everything on Wilgy-brand WIFOM.

linki: I tend to cut posts into pieces to include what I think is relevant, so I don't clutter the page. My apologies if I cut something important. :P
What are your reads, LC? Your reason for placing your vote almost seems to be a "well, let's just put things into place and see what Mac does," which doesn't make it seem like you have a preference. If all three lynch options are town (and you somehow know that) it makes sense and doesn't look great.

[juliets]

Wait, no, that speedchuck vote looks tasty! Change my vote to speedchuck.

Any particular reason for that?

Long Con, I didn't see an answer to this question and it has become important for my ability to analyze what the suspicion of speed/sloonei is all about. Could you be more specific about why you changed your vote to him?

Well, here's my whole post, which speechuck cut in half:

Wait, no, that speedchuck vote looks tasty! Change my vote to speedchuck.

Just... Mac is on speedchuck, and if he wants Kyle lynched then he can do it himself at this point.

I originally broke the tie between Mac and Kyle, but then I saw Mac was solo-voting speedchuck. Figuring that MAc would come back and vote Kyle to save himself, I didn't think my vote was the most effective there. So I voted speedchuck alongside Mac and then Glorfindel triple-tied it. Short answer: flailing.

Ok thanks for the explanation, it helps.

I read through timmer and found that he has been giving opinions on people, DF, Kyle, Long Con, Wilgy - those are the ones that spring to mind. The last time I played with a bad timmer he was very quiet, absent really, and it was hard to get reads out of him so his behavior this game doesn't match my memory of the game where he was bad. And now I see he is hurt and going to replace out - so sorry timmer I hope you feel better!

linki

[juliets]

geez the lynch poll ends in a couple of hours and the only person that I have a twinge about is Wilgy and I know that's a toss up. Is there anyone else I should be looking at? That's directed at anyone who wants to answer.

[Glorfindel]

You know, I could go Wilgy...

[Marmot]

Effective immediately, Elohcin has replaced timmer.

[juliets]

Since I haven't found any better place to put my vote and my reading is all starting to run together I'm going to go ahead and vote Wilgy. If people come to the thread and start giving cases that I can investigate and like I can always change my vote.

[speedchuck]

I have voted for Long Con

[juliets]

Have people been voting at the last minute in this game?

[Epignosis]

Well, today is a shit show.

[juliets]

I feel like I should move my vote. The Lynch shouldn't be decided by someone who's only been in the game a few hours.

[Epignosis]

I feel like I should move my vote. The Lynch shouldn't be decided by someone who's only been in the game a few hours.

The lynch won't be decided by that.

The lynch will be decided by people who couldn't be bothered to vote.

[Marmot]

Farewell to Lórien

The party spent time in Lórien, and the elves who dwell within. The members of the party were given many gifts to part with.

DrWilgy was given elvish bread. Or so he thought. Someone thought it would be funny to bake it with shards of steel.


DrWilgy has been lynched. He was...

Spoiler: show

Legolas

He was a vanilla civilian.

Night 4 has begun. You have until 20:00 EST on Monday to submit your night actions.

[juliets]

Sorry Wilgy, someday I will learn how to read you.

So people who didn't vote, where were you?

[Epignosis]

Pfff